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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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  • Jan 11, 2022 · 1 hr 21 min

    84. Multi-Year Progress and Protein (Plus Cookie!) Science

    We took off our grump-suits and put on some sexy swag-suits to talk about the fun science of multi-year changes from a genetic baseline, the coolest twin-study of all time, different protein sources and why they can be adaptation insurance, a poop-doping follow-up, muscle fiber typology and why it matters, and how cookie availability changes evaluation metrics. Thank you all for everything! HUZZAH! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Jan 7, 2022 · 1 hr 16 min

    83. Endurance Performance and the Wild Science of Fatigue Resistance

    SEXY SCIENCE CORNER! What differentiates athletes late in endurance events like marathons and ultras? Why can some athletes train the same, pace the same, fuel the same--yet have different results? The answer may be found in the emerging study of "fatigue resistance." Fatigue resistance does not have a set definition, but is generally classified as the extent of performance deterioration late in events, often unexplained by normal physiological profiling while fresh. This episode takes a deep dive into some of the sexiest science and training theory of how the brain and nervous system influence late-race fatigue. We take you on a thrilling ride featuring neurotransmitters, genetics, metabolic variables, and much more, with the goal of highlighting what contributes to physiological breakthroughs over time. It concludes with 10 training theories you can put into practice to accomplish some big, scary goals. Thank you all for being THE BEST! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Jan 4, 2022 · 1 hr 21 min

    82. Winter Training Fundamentals, Microbiome Science, and Motivation

    We PLUCKED our way into 2022 before talking about 6 winter training fundamentals (that apply anytime outside of specific training), the difficulty of motivation (including for us), the tragic Boulder fires, hope in an uncertain world, evolutionary principles of alcohol consumption and dependence, and the wildly exciting science of the microbiome. There will be a new sexy science corner episode this Friday, subscribe now! Thank you all for everything! Wooohooooo 2022, let's do this! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Dec 28, 2021 · 1 hr 17 min

    81. Interval Training, Sexy Statistics, and Woohoo Reflections

    We yelled "HUZZAH!" at the top of all the hills before talking about the nuances of interval recovery approaches, our differing approaches to BUSINESS, offseason yoga, what athletes need to know about the omicron variant, the difficulties of observational studies, and a new study on the menstrual cycle and performance. What a year! We appreciate you all so much, thank you for being on this journey with us. HAPPY NEW YEAR! WOOHOO! Huzzah! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap Figure 2 referenced in episode: https://tinyurl.com/figure2menstrualcycle

  • Dec 21, 2021 · 1 hr 21 min

    80. 2022 Training Guidelines and Holiday Celebration Episode

    We got bib numbers to the 2021 Tour De No Pants before talking about the physiological importance of practicing playfulness in training, an update on the journey with family planning (we are at the fun part!), why walking is trail running, and key principles for thinking about training heading into 2022 (particularly with the distribution of intensity). Science is sometimes sexy metaphorically, and on this episode it's also sexy literally. Happy holidays everyone, we appreciate you all so much! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Dec 14, 2021 · 1 hr 20 min

    79. Long Run Distance and Living Boldly

    We got our GRUMP SUITS on before talking about long run distances, heart-friendly fun activities (you too can be the naked person in the gym locker room), death anxiety and the power of living boldly, passion, and a hopeful health update. HEART SWAG ACTIVATE. We have gotten so much joy and strength from your messages and support! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Dec 7, 2021 · 1 hr 22 min

    78. Supplement Science and Health Journey Update

    We had some life-affirming hospital chicken tenders before talking about the new Olympic Trials standards, sports supplements guidelines and science, and Megan's health journey and diagnosis (WE GOT THIS! Eventually!). We love this community so much, thank you for everything. The biggest heart love going your way! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Dec 3, 2021 · 1 hr 6 min

    77. The Science and Theory of Uphill and Downhill Running

    Sexy Science Corner! We dig deep on the studies and training theory of uphill and downhill running to draw some conclusions for how athletes can support long-term growth on all terrain. The big question: what is the best training approach to improve all-around running ability, including on steeps? We call it "the climbing paradox"--focus excessively on steep ups and downs at the expense of well-rounded training, and eventually an athlete may get a bit slower at everything. The rationale gets at some fascinating questions about physiology and what contributes to long-term growth for all runners. As you'll hear, it has been a VISION QUEST of a week. Thank you so much for your love and support in this time, and always. We appreciate you all! WOOHOO! Subscribe to Trail Runner Magazine here: trailrunnermag.com/outsideplus 3-Minute Mountain Legs: https://www.trailrunnermag.com/training/strength-training-training/3-minute-mountain-legs 8-Minute Speed Legs: https://www.trailrunnermag.com/training/strength-training-training/8-minute-speed-legs Weekly Strength Work Cheat Sheet: https://www.trailrunnermag.com/training/strength-training-training/all-in-one-strength-work-cheat-sheet WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP

  • Nov 23, 2021 · 1 hr 13 min

    76. Training Cycle Design, Supershoes, and Gratitude

    We got ACTIVATED by matcha lattes before talking about the cool science of periodization of training cycles, the IOC's new framework for inclusion, the science of supershoes (and which ones are best), competition blinders, understanding pain/discomfort, and supporting confidence in kids and adults. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP

  • Nov 17, 2021 · 1 hr 23 min

    75. Big Training Blocks and Building Confidence

    We practiced our OOPS-AND-RALLY before talking about weekly training structure, stacking up itty bitty bricks in a really big wall, side pees, the great science of massage tools, fart buoyancy, the best shoes we have ever worn (and getting scammed trying to buy them), and building confidence by embracing vulnerability. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP

  • Nov 12, 2021 · 57 min

    The Connections Between Overtraining and Underfueling

    SCIENCE CORNER! A 2021 study had a fascinating finding: in some cases, overtraining may actually be the result of underfueling. We zoom out discuss the incredibly cool scientific landscape on training, fueling, stress, and adaptation, which has big implications for how athletes pursue their long-term potential. THANK YOU! WOOHOO! Subscribe to Trail Runner Magazine for just $0.50 per week! trailrunnermag.com/outsideplus WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP

  • Nov 9, 2021 · 1 hr 11 min

    74. The Dipsea Race and Running Sponsorships

    We embraced bodily fluid gratitude before talking about the nitty gritty of shoe sponsorships, why fueling is helpful even in short events, aging as an athlete (and how that process is relevant for everyone), The Dipsea Race, caring about competition, and our appreciation of Goober the Clown. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Nov 2, 2021 · 1 hr 13 min

    73. Heat Science for Year-Round Performance & Exercise Addiction

    We practiced recipes for the Some Work, All Pizza cookbook (dog treats for humans?) before talking about extending peak performance over an athletic career, rest days, the relevance of exercise addiction principles for all athletes, embracing imperfection, and how different types of heat training may improve year-round performance. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Oct 26, 2021 · 1 hr 12 min

    72. Athletes Are Not Math Equations & Protein Power

    We got out our big bowls and big spoons for big gains (protein cereal babyyyy) before talking about the importance of quantity and timing of protein intake, track workouts, the University of Oregon news and why athletic performance is not a math equation, and authenticity in leadership. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Oct 19, 2021 · 1 hr 22 min

    71. Strength Work and Sex Queens

    We gave you all 14/10s before talking about the power of very easy running, dogs and impermanence, dreaming about it...then being about it, the wild science of dopamine, communication and sex, and strength work guidelines. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Oct 12, 2021 · 1 hr 24 min

    70. Boston/Chicago Marathon Takeaways and Mental Health Acceptance

    We got very, very intimate with a redwood tree before talking about a bunch of lessons from the Boston and Chicago Marathons, the surprising science on heat strain in marathons, coming home, Ted Lasso, mental health and love, and the Stockdale Paradox. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Oct 5, 2021 · 1 hr 5 min

    69. BELIEVE and Tiger Claw Race Thoughts

    We touched the BELIEVE sign before talking about the Tiger Claw race, what the heck is up with trail shoes, uphill and downhill running approach, realistic belief in the context of mentorship, and the power of BELIEVE through the dark forests. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Sep 28, 2021 · 1 hr 19 min

    68. Long Run Physiology and Big Decision Swag

    We very sensually licked Dairy Queen cones before talking about long run structure and physiology, muscle breakdown and CK measurements, the problem with models, wedding dancing, and the framework for making big decisions. Plus a new Master Debaters segment! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

  • Sep 24, 2021 · 42 min

    SCIENCE CORNER: Adaptation Over Multiple Training Cycles

    We did a sexy science experiment with this bonus episode on how health and adaptation are related across multiple training cycles. Key topics: the nervous and endocrine systems, supercompensation stimuli, overreaching v. overtraining, fatigue resistance, and Lizzo. Lizzo is key! Thank you all! WOOHOO! For more training and outdoor content, go to trailrunnermag.com/outsideplus And enter this code at checkout: swap25

  • Sep 21, 2021 · 1 hr 14 min

    67. RRR 100 Miler Lessons and Affirmation Station

    We yelled "Woohoo!" until we lost our voices (and maybe podcast listeners) at Run Rabbit Run before talking about exploration of the unknown, having the talent to use your talent, 5 universal ultra training principles, artificial general intelligence and sentience (it gets weird), and Lil Nas X. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap