Like Mind, Like Body

Curable: the program for chronic pain recovery through mindbody medicine

Struggling with chronic pain? Listen in to learn about the amazing ways our thoughts, feelings, and experiences can impact our physical health and perpetuate symptoms. On each episode, we interview physicians, researchers, and ordinary people who have incredible stories to tell about the power of the mindbody connection. This podcast is a free resource brought to you by Curable: the program for chronic pain recovery through mindbody medicine. Learn more at curable.com

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20 episodes
Updated Friday

Episodes20

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Friday · 1 hr 2 min
Is Your Biotemperament Contributing to Your Pain? (Danielle Szasz, LMFT)
Many people living with chronic pain share common traits like perfectionism, people-pleasing, and conscientiousness—qualities that can be both strengths and sources of stress. In this episode, Danielle Szasz, LMFT, explores how biotemperament—the way our nervous systems are naturally wired to perceive and respond to the world—can shape these patterns, and shares practical tools to help you shift from threat toward safety.
June 12 · 1 hr 3 min
What Loneliness Does to the Nervous System (Jeni Quigg, LMHC)
In this episode of Like Mind, Like Body, Christie sits down with trauma-informed psychotherapist Jeni Quigg to explore how self-attunement, nervous system regulation, and meaningful connection can support recovery from chronic symptoms. Together, they discuss the role loneliness and early life experiences can play in symptom patterns—and share practical ways to cultivate greater self-kindness, safety, and support.
May 14 · 1 hr 1 min
Chronic Pain, Intimacy, and Your Nervous System (Lillian Bailey, LMFT)
In this episode of Like Mind, Like Body, Lillian Bailey joins Christie to explore the often-overlooked connection between chronic symptoms and our relationship with pleasure, intimacy, and internal safety. Together, they discuss how our ability to trust our own internal "yes" and "no" can shape both sexual well-being and physical symptoms.
April 21 · 1 hr 6 min
Hundreds of Recoveries, One Common Thread (Raelan Agle)
In this episode, Raelan Agle shares what she's learned from thousands of hours of interviews with chronic symptom experts and people around the world who have made full recoveries. Together, she and Christie examine why mindbody approaches to healing are so often a last resort — and what needs to change to make them a mainstay of chronic pain care. For anyone still searching for answers, this conversation offers both a clearer map and a reason to keep going.
March 26 · 44 min
How to Stop Fearing the Unknown (Alyssa Heskin, LCSW)
Uncertainty can be one of the most activating experiences for the nervous system — especially when you’re living with chronic neuroplastic symptoms. In this episode, Christie Uipi, LCSW, and Alyssa Heskin, LCSW, explore why the brain interprets uncertainty as danger, how that drives fear and overthinking, and most importantly, what you can do to stop these unhelpful cycles.
February 17 · 50 min
Your Body Is Asking for Kindness (Rachel Amondson, MSW)
Self-compassion is an important part of healing — but practicing it can feel surprisingly hard when you’re dealing with real symptoms, stress, and daily pressures. In this interview, Christie Uipi sits down with social worker and mindbody coach Rachel Amondson to explore why self-compassion is such a powerful part of recovery and how to take small, simple steps toward relating to yourself more kindly when your body is asking for care.
Dec 30, 2025 · 1 hr 15 min
This Work Is Personal: The People Behind the Curable App (John Gribbin, Erich Luedtke, Liz Kotin, Sarah Larcker)
In the final episode of 2025, Christie Uipi, LCSW, sits down with the people behind the Curable app for an honest, personal conversation about the lived experiences that inspire their work. Together, they share how they discovered the mindbody approach, navigated their own healing journeys, and how those experiences continue to shape Curable’s culture and mission.
Dec 5, 2025 · 53 min
Half of America Is Hurting: What a New Study Reveals (Matt Goldberg, PhD, and David Clarke, MD)
According to a new national study, nearly half of adults in the U.S. are living with ongoing pain or illness that’s either unexplained or unresponsive to standard care. In this episode, Christie Uipi sits down with the researchers behind the study to explore what this means for anyone feeling stuck, confused, or dismissed in their health journey.
Oct 30, 2025 · 1 hr
Healing When Pain Is Both Structural and Neuroplastic (Lara Birk, PhD)
Lara Birk's journey through years of chronic pain has led her to become a powerful voice in the field of mindbody medicine, particularly for those living with both structural and neuroplastic issues. Drawing from her own experience, she helps people with persistent pain find hope, relief, and a fuller life. In this moving conversation with Christie Uipi, LCSW, she invites us to expand our definition of healing and imagine new narratives of what's possible.
Sep 12, 2025 · 1 hr 12 min
The Psychology of Pain: Practical Insights for Recovery (Justin Barker, PsyD)
Have you ever wondered exactly how your mental health impacts physical pain—or found yourself unsure how to put that knowledge into practice? In this interview, Christie Uipi sits down with Dr. Justin Barker for a practical (and fun!) conversation about the core pillars of psychoanalytic healing and ways to actually use these principles in your recovery from chronic symptoms.
Aug 19, 2025 · 58 min
The New Therapy That's Changing Chronic Pain Treatment (Brandon Yarns, MD, MS)
Join Christie Uipi, LCSW, and Brandon Yarns, MD, MS, as they explore why Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET) is gaining recognition as one of the most effective emerging treatments for chronic pain. Together, they unpack how stress, past experiences, and unprocessed emotions can shape chronic neuroplastic conditions—and share strategies for untangling this complex web for yourself with evidence-based techniques.
Jun 24, 2025 · 1 hr 2 min
The Hidden Weight of Shame (Nicky Cameron, LCSW)
In this episode, Nicky Cameron, LCSW, joins Christie Uipi, LCSW, to explore the complex and often hidden world of shame - what it is, how it shows up in our lives, how cultural messages can reinforce it, and the surprising ways it can fuel chronic symptoms. Together they dive into Nicky's lived experience with shame, offering insight into how it can shape our inner world and healing journey. If you’ve ever blamed yourself for being in pain, hidden your symptoms to avoid judgment, or felt like you were “doing it wrong,” this conversation is for you.
May 23, 2025 · 58 min
The Healing Tools That Make the Biggest Difference (Daniel Lyman, LCSW)
As therapists, Daniel Lyman and Christie Uipi have guided hundreds of clients through chronic pain, fatigue, GI symptoms, dizziness, and many other mindbody conditions. In this episode, they pull back the curtain on the tools they return to most often in their work - sharing their essential healing techniques, core insights, and some of the most important lessons they’ve learned along the way.
Apr 25, 2025 · 1 hr 9 min
A New Way to Understand Long COVID, ME/CFS, POTS and More (Howard Schubiner, MD)
In this interview, Christie Uipi, LCSW, sits down with world-renowned mindbody physician Dr. Howard Schubiner to explore the limitations of the traditional medical model in treating conditions like POTS, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, chronic Lyme disease, Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), ME/CFS, and Long COVID. Together, they discuss how a mindbody approach can bring clarity to these often confusing conditions - and offer a hopeful path forward for those seeking relief.
Mar 13, 2025 · 1 hr
How Well Does Curable Work? The Science Behind the App (Cynthia Thomson, PhD)
In this episode of the Like Mind, Like Body podcast, Christie Uipi, LCSW, sits down with researcher and professor Dr. Cynthia Thomson, who led an independent clinical trial to assess how effective the Curable App is in treating chronic pain and symptoms. Discover what the data reveals about Curable's impact on pain, anxiety, and more - and learn how we can make this approach to healing more accessible and understood by all.
Dec 18, 2024 · 1 hr 18 min
Putting Out Your Emotional Fires So You Can Heal (Nicole Sachs, LCSW)
On this new episode of the Like Mind, Like Body podcast, psychotherapist and leading pain clinician Nicole Sachs, LCSW, joins host Christie Uipi, LCSW, for an in-depth conversation about the ways our repressed emotions, resistance patterns, and expectations impact our pain and symptoms. Tune in to hear major insights from Nicole’s personal healing journey and get a sneak peek at some of the biggest takeaways from her groundbreaking new book, Mind Your Body.
Oct 18, 2024 · 1 hr 11 min
Joy, Play, and Fun: The Keys to Long Term Healing (Rachel Mooers, LMFT)
Join Christie Uipi, LCSW, and Rachel Mooers, LMFT, for an uplifting talk about the very important role of play, joy, and fun in the healing process. If your chronic symptoms make it feel like joy, play, and fun are out of reach, stick with us because this episode is for you. Tune in to learn how playfulness can be used to break the pain-fear cycle and enjoy a 15-minute guided body awareness exercise intended to help you tap into joyful sensations.
Sep 5, 2024 · 49 min
Throw Some Ass, Free the Mind: How Sophie Hawley-Weld of SOFI TUKKER Conquered Back Pain
Sophie Hawley-Weld, of the iconic musical duo Sofi Tukker, suffered from chronic migraines and back pain that was so severe it jeopardized her thriving career and livelihood. Sophie’s journey, like those of many other chronic pain sufferers, took many twists and turns. It wasn’t until Sophie learned how to meld a brain-based approach with body-based modalities that she was finally able to find relief.
Aug 21, 2024 · 1 hr 11 min
Non-Pain Symptoms are Curable! (Yonit Arthur, AuD)
“The brain can create or amplify any sensation in any part of the body, and the mindbody connection is relevant to all health conditions.” This truth is how Christie Uipi, LCSW, and renowned Audiologist, Dr. Yonit Arthur kick off an enlightening discussion about healing non-pain conditions with a mindbody approach. Tune in to hear how your thoughts, emotions, and actions impact symptoms like dizziness, vertigo, anxiety, tinnitus, hyperacusis, fatigue, insomnia, gut issues, urinary urgency, brain fog, and more.
Jul 19, 2024 · 55 min
Connection, Communication, and Health (Matthew Lederman, MD, and Alona Pulde, MD)
Feeling connected to others and the natural world is a crucial component of wellness. However, forming and nurturing fulfilling relationships can only happen when you are connected to your authentic self. So how do we tune in to the frequency of our own needs? Join Matthew Lederman, MD, Alona Pulde, MD, and Christie Uipi, LCSW, on the Like Mind, Like Body podcast to explore how self-awareness and intentional communication can open the door for deeper interpersonal relationships and improved physical health.