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Two Peas on a Pod

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Your friendships called... they want your attention.

Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer, clinical psychologist and one of the world's leading experts on adult friendship, and it's the podcast that finally takes your closest relationships as seriously as you do.

Each week, Dr. Miriam takes you inside the many layers of friendship, through real conversations with best friends, expert perspectives, and deep dives into the questions we don’t always know how to ask. From conflict and change to closeness and growth, each episode offers insight and practical tools to help you show up more intentionally in your relationships.

Thoughtful, curious, and revealing, Two Peas on a Pod explores the stories, science, and secrets behind how we connect, and what it really takes to feel close to the people who matter most.

So pull up a chair, friend. We saved you a seat.

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#19
Thursday · 52 min
Office Ours: One Affirming Adult Can Save a Life (with Jaymes Black, CEO of the Trevor Project)
What if the friendship you needed most as a kid never showed up, so you built it for millions of others instead? Jaymes Black is the CEO of The Trevor Project, the leading suicide prevention and crisis intervention organization for LGBTQ+ young people. Jaymes spent childhood and adolescence without a friend group who truly understood, including being outed in high school and ultimately deciding to leave. Today, Jaymes leads the organization built to make sure other LGBTQ+ young people don't have to live that same story. Dr. Miriam and Jaymes talk about what happens when you build the friendship you needed instead of waiting for it to show up: a crisis line that saves lives every day, and TrevorSpace, where hundreds of thousands of young people are finding their first queer friends online. They get into the research that changes how you think about showing up for someone, like the fact that one affirming adult can lower a young person's risk of a suicide attempt by 40%. It's the kind of conversation that ends with Jaymes's own words to any young person who feels alone: you're not in the wrong story, you're just not yet in the right room. This one is for the one affirming adult who has no idea how much they matter. Pull up a chair, Office Ours are in session. -- Follow your new friend: @thejaymesblack Learn more about the Trevor Project: @trevorproject Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#18
September 3 · 1 hr 6 min
Joslyn & Lily: From Indispensable Intern to Inseparable Besties
What does real friendship look like beyond the highlight reel? Before they were two of the most recognizable faces in early YouTube pop culture coverage, Joslyn was a host at ClevverTV and Lily was her unpaid intern, commuting hours from Thousand Oaks and working restaurant shifts on the side just to be in the room. What started as an intern-and-boss dynamic dissolved almost immediately into something else entirely, and today Joslyn and Lily join Dr. Miriam to unpack how a working relationship became one of the steadiest friendships either of them has. They talk about being opposite-energy friends (dog vs. cat energy) who somehow share every value that matters. They get honest about an industry that loves to pit women against each other, and why neither of them has ever once felt like they were competing with the other. Joslyn shares the heartfelt moment that changed their friendship, they talk candidly about the years Lily spent working through chronic pain and stepping back from public life, and what it took for the friendship to hold steady through it, even after the company that brought them together shut down overnight. Dr. Miriam ties it back to her own framework for connection and reminds everyone that real friendship is supposed to be a little inconvenient. But just ask Joslyn and Lily, and they'll tell you the drive is never the hard part. Pull up a chair. This one is for the friend who's already clapping before you finish the sentence. -- Follow your new friends: @joslyndavis & @lily_marston Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#17
August 27 · 51 min
Office Ours: A Real Guide to Adult Friendship
Is it just me, or does making new friends as an adult feel so much harder than it used to? In this solo Office Ours, Dr. Miriam breaks down why the friendships that used to happen by accident stop happening once real life gets in the way. She walks through the three real reasons adult friendship gets harder (vanishing structure, the mere exposure effect, and follow through fatigue), then busts the beliefs quietly keeping people stuck, including the myth that real friendship should feel effortless. You will also hear about the liking gap, the discomfort scale, and the one thing Miriam is adding to her own to do list this week. This one is for anyone who assumes everyone else already has enough friends. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#16
August 20 · 1 hr 16 min
Heidi Clements & Constance Zimmer: Finding Your People at Every Age
What if the same instant spark you feel falling in love could happen with a friend? Meet Today's Peas: Constance Zimmer is an actress known for iconic, sharp-edged roles in Entourage, UnREAL, House of Cards, and Love Story. Heidi Clements is a television producer, writer, social media force, and pro-aging influencer. Constance and Heidi's friendship started, of all places, in a business meeting. Heidi had written a pitch for a show, Sony sent it to Constance, and the two were on a Zoom call two days later that turned into a lifelong friendship. In this episode, they talk with Dr. Miriam about that instant, love-at-first-sight-style recognition that can happen between friends just as much as romantic partners ("friendship chemistry") and how it showed up for them despite a ten-year age gap and a pandemic that kept them apart in person. They get into what it's really like turning 50 and 60 in the same "bracket" of life, how an inspiring encounter at a farmers market sparked their podcast (Talk Fifty To Me) and why they've both found it easier, not harder, to make real friends in midlife once they stopped performing and started showing up as themselves. Pull up a chair. This one's for anyone who's found their person in the least likely place. -- Follow your new friends: @welcometoheidi & @constancezimmer Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#15
August 13 · 1 hr
Office Ours: Busy Isn't Better (with Dr. Jessica Stern)
What if the busiest thing about your friendships isn't your calendar, but the story you're telling yourself? Dr. Jessica B. Stern is a licensed clinical psychologist, a faculty member at NYU Langone Health, and the host of Doctor Radio on SiriusXM. She's also the founder of Three Lemons, a firm that helps people and organizations reduce burnout and build more sustainable ways of working. Dr. Miriam sits down with her real-life friend and colleague, Dr. Jessica Stern, to dig into why "I'm so busy" has become our default answer to everyone, including the friends who matter most. Together they unpack why busyness got glamorized into a badge of honor, how "I'm so busy" can quietly double as an excuse (sometimes without us even realizing it), and why friendships start to feel like just another item on the to-do list. They also get into why friendships naturally diverge as we age (people marry, have kids, chase promotions, or buy houses) and why that doesn't have to mean the friendship is over, just changing shape. Dr. Jessica leaves us with concrete tools like getting specific instead of defaulting to "busy," "stacking" connection onto things already on your calendar, and getting honest about the stories we tell ourselves about what someone else's busyness really means. This one is for anyone who's ever answered "how are you?" with "so busy" and meant something else entirely. Pull up a chair. Permission to not be busy, granted. -- Follow your new friend: @drjessicabstern Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#14
August 6 · 1 hr 12 min
Love on the Spectrum’s Lise & Nicci: Stronger Together
What does it mean to care deeply for someone else without losing yourself in the process? Meet Today's Peas: You'll recognize Lise Smith and Nicci Smith from Netflix's Love on the Spectrum, but behind the cameras, they've built a remarkable friendship of their own. What started with raising their sons, Connor and Tanner, together grew into Talk To Me Sis, the podcast where honesty, humor, and sisterhood take center stage. Dr. Miriam sits down with Lise and Nicci to talk about the unexpected friendships that form through caregiving, the power (and the pitfalls) of online communities, and why supporting the people who show up for everyone else matters just as much as the caregiving itself. They get honest about redefining who they are outside of motherhood, and about watching their sons grow in ways they never expected (Connor testifying in front of the Georgia state legislature, Tanner building an independent life three hours from home.) Their message to anyone listening: The Connors and Tanners of the world are closer than you think. Go find them! Pull up a chair. This one's for the person who's always showing up for everyone else. -- Follow your new friends: @connorsmom_lise & @nicci_smith6 Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#13
July 30 · 1 hr 4 min
Office Ours: Mom Needs a Moment (with Dr. Cassidy Freitas)
When was the last time you had a moment? Not a vacation, not even an afternoon off, just a moment to breathe before you react, to notice what you're feeling before it spills onto the people you love most. Dr. Cassidy Freitas is a licensed marriage and family therapist, the author of Mom Needs a Moment, and the host and creator of the Holding Space podcast. She's also a mom of three, a bird enthusiast, an avid fanfic reader, and (as Dr. Miriam will tell you) her personal go-to curator of memes and reels. Dr. Miriam sits down with her friend and colleague Dr. Cassidy Freitas for this bimonthly Office Ours deep dive on why we all need a moment, and what happens when we don't take one. They get into the nervous system science behind why we snap at the people we love most, and why "getting louder" or "shutting down" often trace back to habits we built as kids just to stay connected to the people who kept us safe. Dr. Cassidy walks through her go-to in-the-moment tool for catching yourself mid-reaction (a literal hand on the chest and a "hold on, hold on"), and why repair always matters more than never messing up in the first place. They also talk through the quieter warning signs that you've become disconnected from yourself, how perfectionism can be anxiety wearing a nicer outfit, and why protecting five minutes of margin in your day isn't selfish, it's what makes showing up for everyone else possible. This one is for anyone who's ever snapped at somebody they love and then wondered why, for anyone whose favorite three minutes of the day happen alone in the driveway, and for anyone waiting for life to slow down before they finally take a moment. Pull up a chair, this hour is for you. -- Follow your new friend: @drcassidy Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#12
July 23 · 1 hr 9 min
Eden Sher & Brock Ciarlelli: A Friendship Built Off Script
What happens when the friendship that got you through growing up on a hit TV show has to survive real life once the cameras stop rolling? That's the story of Eden Sher and Brock Ciarlelli... Eden and Brock met as teenagers on the set of The Middle, playing Sue Heck and Brad Bottig for nine seasons before it became something more than a job. These days, Eden's debut comedy special, I Was On a Sitcom, is streaming, and you've probably seen Brock in Bros or Netflix's Glamorous. But nearly two decades later, they're still each other's person. Dr. Miriam sits down with two people who've spent almost twenty years proving that brutal honesty is its own love language. Eden and Brock talk about the moment vulnerability first cracked the professional wall between them, why being each other's "safety net" carried them through the identity whiplash of growing up on a hit show, and the strange, tiny "Venn diagram" of people who've seen them as both their characters and themselves. They also get into the time Brock talked Eden down mid-meltdown over a font on her comedy special poster ("It's fine. No one cares."), and why, for them, humor is its own form of vulnerability. Pull up a chair. This one will make you grateful for the friend who tells you the truth about your font choices. -- Follow your new friends: @eden_sher & @brockciarlelli Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#11
July 16 · 1 hr 16 min
Attica & Tembi Locke: Sisters Who Chose Friendship
What if the letter that saved your closest relationship started with "I hate you"? Meet today's Peas: Tembi Locke is a New York Times bestselling author whose memoir From Scratch inspired the popular Netflix series. Attica Locke is an acclaimed novelist (Black Water Rising, Heaven, My Home, Guide Me Home) who also helped bring her sister's memoir to the screen as showrunner on From Scratch. They're sisters first, storytellers second, and two of the most honest friends Dr. Miriam has had on the show yet. Attica and Tembi grew up sharing bedspreads and a childhood bedroom, then drifted into separate worlds: different schools, different friend groups, years where "friendship" wasn't really the word for what they had. What brought them back wasn't a conversation. It was a letter Attica wrote in her early twenties and slid under her sister's door: raw and unfiltered, and nothing like anything either of them had said out loud before. Dr. Miriam sits down with Attica and Tembi to unpack what it actually takes to rebuild a relationship you didn't choose: the individual work of unlearning thirty-year-old dynamics, the grief that resurfaced when Tembi lost her husband, and how they've become each other's first readers and closest creative collaborators, with Attica now producing the adaptation of her own novel Bluebird, Bluebird, in the role Tembi once held. Pull up a chair. This one is for anyone who's ever wanted to reach out to a sibling, or an old friend, and wasn't sure it was worth the risk of rejection. -- Follow your new friends: @tembilocke & @atticalocke Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#10
July 9 · 1 hr 7 min
Office Ours: Friendship Breakups (Part 2: Ghosting, Slow Fades & the Breakup Talk)
There's no right way to end a friendship, but there is a wrong one. Dr. Miriam closes out the two-part Office Ours series on friendship breakups with the part nobody teaches us: how to actually let go of a friend. She starts with the five questions to ask yourself before deciding whether a friendship is worth saving. From there, the four ways friendships really end: the slow fade, the compartmentalized friendship, the honest breakup talk, and ghosting, the one strategy she basically never recommends (and the research on why might surprise you). And make sure to stick around for your friendly reminders! Three tools for coping with a friendship breakup, whichever side of it you're on, including the letter you write but never, ever send. This one is for anyone still waiting on closure. Because sometimes closure isn't something you receive from someone else. It's something you create. If you haven't heard Part 1 yet, start there. We'll wait. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#9
July 2 · 1 hr 13 min
Office Ours: Friendship Breakups (Part 1: The Hurt Nobody Talks About)
What if the hardest breakup you ever go through isn't romantic at all? If you've ever felt more heartbroken over losing a friend than a romantic partner, you are not alone, and you're definitely not overreacting. Friendship breakups don't come with a script. No agreed-upon custody battle for mutual friends, no ritual to eat ice cream and listen to a sad playlist. Just silence, and a grief most of us have never been taught to name. Dr. Miriam opens the first of a two-part Office Ours series on friendship breakups with the question underneath all the others: why does losing a friend hurt so much? She walks through the three types of friendship breakups: a sudden rupture, a slow fade, or a life transition that quietly pulls two people apart, and gets honest about a friendship from her own childhood that she wishes she'd ended sooner. Along the way, she debunks the myths that keep people stuck, and makes the case for why letting go of a friend isn't always the failure it feels like. This is for the friend you still think about, whether you lost them, left them, or just drifted somewhere in between. Just... hold off on texting it to them until you've heard next week's episode. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#8
June 25 · 54 min
Jamison Lange & Alaire Thomas: Creating Content & Fast Friendships
What makes a friendship feel different from a networking lunch? Jamison Lange and Alaire Thomas know the answer, and it starts with a DM about an uncredited video, a brunch that ran four hours, and a vibe that neither of them could fully explain, but both of them immediately felt. Meet Today's Peas: Jamison is a content creator known for his viral transition videos and boundary-pushing content that blends humor, vulnerability, and creativity to challenge beauty standards and redefine masculinity. Alaire is a New York-based comedian, content creator, and podcaster whose stand-up tour, Anyway, Thank You, has been bringing her special brand of comedy to audiences nationwide. Together, they're the creative duo behind the beloved series When You're a Masc But Still a Lady, and also proof that some of the best friendships are the ones that sneak up on you. Dr. Miriam sits down with Jamison and Alaire to talk about fast friendships and what actually makes them stick: the difference between a vibe and an opportunity, the boundaries that keep their creative partnership from crowding out their connection, and what it means to feel genuinely safe with someone. Pull up a chair. This one's for everyone who's ever met someone and immediately thought, "oh, you're going to matter to me." -- Follow your new friends: @jamison.lange & @alairethomas Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky. Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#7
June 18 · 1 hr 18 min
Office Ours: Modern Loss (with Rebecca Soffer)
What if grief didn't have to be something you move through alone even when it feels like no one else could possibly understand what you're carrying? On this episode of Office Ours, Dr. Miriam sits down with Rebecca Soffer to talk about what it really means to show up for someone who's grieving and what it means to let people show up for you. Rebecca is the co-founder of Modern Loss, a Peabody Award-winning former producer for The Colbert Report, and the bestselling author of The Modern Loss Handbook. After losing both of her parents before 33, she stopped waiting for the world to talk about grief differently and built a community to do it herself. They get into why "let me know if there's anything I can do" almost never lands, the dinner conversation that sparked Modern Loss, and why grief isn’t a straight line, it’s a wave you learn to surf. Rebecca shares why laughing at the bat-sh*t crazy parts of loss could be what gets you through, the difference between giving someone space and creating distance, and why the loneliest experiences in life are often the ones with the most power to bring us together. This one is for anyone who has loved and lost... Which, eventually, is all of us. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Follow your new friend: @rebeccasoffer and @modernloss Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#6
June 11 · 1 hr 12 min
Pauline Chalamet, Lily Sondik & Zoe Mylonas: Across the Globe and Still Inseparable
What does it take to keep a friendship alive across different cities, different countries, and every version of who you're becoming? Pauline Chalamet, Lily Sondik, and Zoe Mylonas have been figuring that out since they were teenagers. Meet Today’s Peas: Pauline is an American-French actress and writer, best known for her role as Kimberly Finkle on HBO Max's The Sex Lives of College Girls. Lily is a New York-based actor, writer, and producer with credits on The Blacklist and Lioness. And Zoe is a theater actress now living in Athens, Greece, where she co-leads the nonprofit Novus Theatre Ensemble. Together, they're living proof that the right friendships don't fade with distance, they deepen. Dr. Miriam sits down with all three (joining from New York, Paris, and Athens) for a conversation about what it really means to grow up alongside people who've known you since the beginning. They dig into the beauty and complexity of friendship trios, the creative rituals that keep them close across time zones, how physical distance doesn't have to mean emotional distance, and why presence (not proximity) is the most powerful predictor of closeness. Pull up a chair. This one will make you want to call your people! -- Follow your new friends: @pauline.chalamet @lsondik @zoezephyrzoe Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#5
June 4 · 1 hr 25 min
Office Ours: The Unicorn Friend at Work (with Fahd Alhattab)
What if the most underrated career move you could make was... making a friend? In this Office Ours episode, Dr. Miriam sits down with Fahd Alhattab, startup workplace expert, leadership strategist, and founder of Unicorn Labs, for a conversation about why connection at work isn't a distraction from the job. It is the job. From Halloween culture shock on his first night in Canada to nearly getting impeached as student president, Fahd brings the stories, the science-adjacent takes, and a genuinely infectious enthusiasm for what great team culture can look like. Together, he and Dr. Miriam unpack workplace friendship boundaries, the myth that closeness undermines accountability, and why "hidden toxicity is just artificial harmony." Plus, the rapid-fire questioning trick that might change how you start every Monday morning. So, pull up a chair. Turns out, friendship is the job. -- Follow your new friend: @fahdalhattab Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#4
May 28 · 1 hr
Ashley I. & Naz: An Untold Bachelor in Paradise Soulmate Story
The real love story from Bachelor in Paradise? Ashley I and Naz. This week on Two Peas on a Pod, Dr. Miriam sits down with longtime best friends Ashley Iaconetti and Naz Perez to unpack the friendship that began behind the scenes of Bachelor in Paradise and lasted long after the cameras stopped rolling. From bonding over MAC’s Ruby Woo lipstick and navigating heartbreak together, to surviving career pivots, long distance, marriage, motherhood, and life in completely different seasons, Ashley and Naz reflect on the moments that turned a producer/cast relationship into something that feels more like family. They also get into Ashley’s newest chapter joining the cast of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, what it’s been like stepping into a whole new reality TV world, and why Naz might be the perfect Housewives producer. The conversation dives into manifestation, emotional safety, radical acceptance, and the kind of friendship that roots for you without jealousy, competition, or keeping score. Naz opens up about the hardest year of her life, Ashley explains why tough love has never worked for her, and together they unpack why the best friendships are the ones where you can fully be yourself. Plus, they expose the one thing that could maybe test their friendship: Joe Jonas. Pull up a chair and grab your popcorn, this one is entertaining! -- Follow your new friends: @ashley_iaconetti @nazperez Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#2
May 21 · 1 hr
Tabitha Brown & Nic Few: How Friends Become Family
What happens when a director tells you you're falling flat, and you become inseparable anyway? That's the story of Tabitha Brown and Nic Few, and it's one for the books. Tab is the internet's best friend: two-time Emmy Award-winning TV host, bestselling author, and warm voice millions turn to every day. Nic is an NAACP Award-winning actor, producer, and storyteller. Together, they co-created the Emmy Award-winning Tab Time, but before any of that, there was a theater rehearsal in 2013 where a stumble turned into the beginning of a forever friendship. Dr. Miriam sits down with two people who have built something rare: a chosen family. Tabitha and Nic talk about the micro-rituals that hold them together, why laughter isn't just their glue, it's genuinely healing, and how a "yes and" relationship makes room for hard conversations without letting things fester. They share what it means to truly see someone, their Friendship PSAs for building close relationships as adults, and what's inside the gift box when you unwrap a friendship like theirs. Pull up a chair. This one will make you want to call your person. -- Follow your new friends: @iamtabithabrown @nicfew Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#3
May 21 · 1 hr 11 min
Office Ours: The Power Pause (with Neha Ruch)
What if stepping back was actually your next big step forward? Neha Ruch is an author, researcher, and the founder of The Power Pause, a movement that is quietly dismantling one of the most outdated stories we tell about ambition: that if you slow down, you're falling behind. On this episode of Office Ours, Dr. Miriam sits down with Neha to unpack what it really means to take a pause and to discuss why one in three women feel forced into one, why our networks don't have to dry up when we do, and what our friendships have to do with all of it. They get into the myths we've inherited about worth and work, the complicated identity shifts that can come with motherhood, the judgment that shows up (even from the people who love us most), and the quiet power of asking "what are you up to today?" instead of "what do you do?" Neha shares what it took to separate her self-belief from everyone else's opinions, why the friendships that survive a power pause are built on one thing above all else, and her honest take on the messy, beautiful friendships she's lost and repaired along the way. This one is for anyone who's ever felt like rest was something to apologize for. Pull up a chair. Office Ours are in session. -- Follow your new friend: @neha_ruch Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
#1
May 21 · 42 min
It's Time to Rethink Your Friendships
Here's a secret nobody's talking about: you're probably undervaluing your friendships. And it's not your fault. Dr. Miriam Kirmayer is a clinical psychologist and one of the world's leading experts on adult friendship. She's spent two decades trying to understand why friendship is our most valuable and most overlooked relationship. In this very first episode, she's making her opening argument. She calls it the friendship paradox. The reality that friendship shapes your mental health, your physical health, your confidence, your sense of self and yet it's still the first thing we let go when life gets busy. Dr. Miriam gets into what we'd do differently if we truly felt that truth: have the hard conversation we've been avoiding, let go of the friendship we've been ambivalent about for years, or finally admit that what we've been calling "busy" might actually be loneliness. She breaks down the five ways friendship is unlike any other relationship in your life, why friendship therapy is something we need to be talking about, and what we get wrong about loneliness. She also shares the origin story behind it all: a Spice Girls cover band, a group called Call U L8R, and what it taught her about the moment we go from treating connection like a promise to treating it like a platitude. So, pull up a chair. This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. -- Your friendship questions deserve answers. Reach out at hello@thetwopeasonapod.com, on social media or, pick up the phone and call or text with your friendship story or questions at 615-PODLINE (That's 615-763-5463). Stay in touch with us: @thetwopeasonapod @miriamkirmayer www.miriamkirmayer.com -- Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Executive produced by Zoe Travis, Matthew Hoffman, Katya Kaminsky, and Dr. Miriam Kirmayer. Produced and edited by Podcast Nation (Producers: Madison Brit and Alesha Pannier, Audio Engineer: Miles Carter). Original music by Sarah Walk. Created by Zoe Travis and Matthew Hoffman. Two Peas on a Pod is recorded in Montreal and Los Angeles. Cover photo by Katya Kaminsky Today's show contains information that is for educational and entertainment purposes only. This program is not a substitute for psychological or medical advice. Please seek out your own support and research as needed. Take care, friends. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
May 5 · 1 min
Introducing 'Two Peas on a Pod'
Your friendships called...they want your attention. Two Peas on a Pod is hosted by Dr. Miriam Kirmayer, clinical psychologist and one of the world's leading experts on adult friendship, and it's the podcast that finally takes your closest relationships as seriously as you do. Each week, Dr. Miriam takes you inside the many layers of friendship, through real conversations with best friends, expert perspectives, and deep dives into the questions we don’t always know how to ask. From conflict and change to closeness and growth, each episode offers insight and practical tools to help you show up more intentionally in your relationships. Thoughtful, curious, and revealing, Two Peas on a Pod explores the stories, science, and secrets behind how we connect, and what it really takes to feel close to the people who matter most. So pull up a chair, friend. We saved you a seat. Produced by Podcast Nation. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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