The Trial

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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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Oct 10, 2025 · 25 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - The “relentless” stalking of Kate McCann
Join Caroline and Claire as they bring you the latest from the trial of the McCann “stalkers”. In this episode we’ve got the evidence of Kate and Gerry McCann who said the actions of the two women on trial were relentless and distressing. Gerry also said the family still have a glimmer of hope that Madelaine is still alive and Julia Wandelt could have put the investigation at risk. We also have the moment that Julia Wandelt screamed at Kate McCann “why are you doing this to me.” The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 7, 2025 · 16 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - “Emotional Blackmail of the Highest Order”
In this episode Caroline and Claire have the moment the court in Leicester were told two women accused of stalking Madeleine McCann’s family accosted them at the family home. They also joked about riffling through their bins. The prosecution say Julia Wandelt used emotional blackmail to try to convince the family she was Madeleine. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 6, 2025 · 14 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - “She is not Madeleine”
In this episode Caroline and Claire have the opening day of trial of two women accused of stalking the family of Madeleine McCann. Julie Wandelt is accused of pursuing the family by email, call and text claiming to be their missing daughter who was abducted from Portugal in 2007. Karen Sprat is also accused of adopting her claims “with gusto”. Today as the case began Julia Wandelt broke down into loud sobs as the jury were told she was categorically “not Madeleine.” The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Sep 26, 2025 · 46 min
Lucy Letby: Conviction
In this episode Liz and Caroline speak to Danny Bogado, the director of a new Channel 4 documentary called Conviction: The Lucy Letby Case. They discuss why he wanted to make a film on the case, how he recruited contributors and why he feels it is important that audiences make up their own minds about her guilt or innocence. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Sep 19, 2025 · 5 min
Lucy Letby’s Expert Witness
Dr Mike Hall was Lucy’s Letby’s key expert witness. But he was never called to give evidence at either of her trials. Caroline and Liz now ask him why. Search: The Trial of Lucy Letby: The Inquiry The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Aug 12, 2025 · 50 min
High School Stabbing - The Intermediary
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you an exclusive interview with the woman who acted as the intermediary for the boy convicted of murdering Harvey Willgoose. Lucy Swindlehurst reveals the influence she had on the way the trial was conducted, with her colleague Paula Backen giving insight into how intemediaries operate in the court system. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Aug 8, 2025 · 34 min
High School Stabbing - Guilty
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdict from Sheffield Crown Court - guilty. The 15-year-old defendant was convicted following 14 hours 34 minutes of deliberation by a majority of 11 to one. The episode also features an exclusive interview with Harvey’s mother Caroline. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Aug 5, 2025 · 6 min
High School Stabbing - Over to the Jury
The jury in the trial of the killer of Harvey Willgoose are now considering their verdict. They’ve heard all of the evidence and the decision on whether the 15 year old boy on trial is guilty of murder or manslaughter now rests with them. In this episode Caroline and Jack have the final instructions the judge gave them before she told them to start their deliberations. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Aug 1, 2025 · 40 min
High School Stabbing - ‘There was a name’
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing arguments from the defence and prosecution before the jury retire to consider their verdicts. Prosecutor Richard Thyne KC said the defendant did not suffer from a loss of self-control when he stabbed Harvey Willgoose, but displayed purposeful and controlled aggression as an act of retribution. Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, said the evidence clearly showed the defendant was in intense fear in the weeks leading up to the attack - and Harvey was simply the final straw that broke him. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 29, 2025 · 23 min
High School Stabbing - ‘You got worked up in rage’
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the cross-examination of the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose. He is questioned about the witness accounts of teachers and pupils who saw him acting like he had a knife before the stabbing and the prosecution put its case to him - that he did not lose control when he killed Harvey, but got worked up into a rage. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 25, 2025 · 26 min
High School Stabbing - Anatomy of a Stabbing
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the moment the boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose describes the fatal stabbing. He claims he only pulled out a knife because he was scared he would get stabbed himself and told a jury he now has no memory of the moment he dealt the deadly blow. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 22, 2025 · 22 min
High School Stabbing - ‘I’ve got a bad feeling about today’
In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the latest evidence of the boy accused of murdering 15-year-old old Harvey Willgoose, as he tells the court he bought the “scary-looking” knife used in the attack because he was worried about being jumped. He also claimed that Harvey had threatened to stab him on the morning of the killing and described how he had not wanted to back down in a recent social media argument because he was afraid of being called a coward. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 18, 2025 · 29 min
High School Stabbing - ‘I’m upset all the time’
In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the side of the story the teenage boy accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose told the jury during the trial. He described how he was the victim of bullying since as far back as primary school, which led him to develop anger issues he struggled to control. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 15, 2025 · 28 min
High School Stabbing - ‘It was me or him’
In this episode Caroline and Jack have what the teenage boy on trial said in the moments after he stabbed Harvey Willgoose. He told police he had the knife for his own protection because he thought he was going to get jumped. He said he was protecting himself. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 14, 2025 · 41 min
Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict
In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria. Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, we finally have the verdict. Caroline and Jack also sit down with Detective Superintendent Lewis Basford, who helped lead the hunt for Constance Martin and Mark Gordon, in an exclusive interview. Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy Producer: Sam Morris Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 14, 2025 · 1 min
Trailer: Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict
In January 2023, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon went on the run with their newborn baby Victoria. After a nationwide hunt, the couple were found. Two days later, so was the body of Victoria. Last year a jury found the pair guilty of concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. However, unable to reach a verdict on the charge of manslaughter, the jury was discharged. Constance Marten and Mark Gordon have faced a retrial on this charge, and today, Caroline and Jack can finally bring you the verdict. Listen to the full episode, 'Constance Marten and Mark Gordon - The Verdict’, wherever you get your podcasts. This week Caroline and Jack will also be bringing you a three part series exclusively to Trial+. They will be delving into the background of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon; details we couldn't bring you until now. Follow us on @thetrialpod Contact us at thetrial@dailymail.com Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 11, 2025 · 30 min
High School Stabbing - 'I can’t control it’
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the evidence of several teachers who have described the horrifying moment they found 15-year-old Harvey Willgoose had been fatally injured in the school courtyard. The trial also heard that the boy accused of murdering him had a history of being bullied over a medical issue and that he told the headteacher he only brought a knife to school that day because he was scared for his safety. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 8, 2025 · 20 min
High School Stabbing - ‘He carried knives’
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the first of the pupils to give evidence at the trial of the teenager accused of murdering Harvey Willgoose at a school in Sheffield. One friend of Harvey's told police that the defendant was known to bring weapons into school - and claimed the boy had once asked him to feel the outline of an axe hidden in his trousers. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 4, 2025 · 22 min
High School Stabbing - “I lost it”
In this episode Caroline and Jack hear from the teachers at the school where Harvey Willgoose was killed. He was described as a cheeky pupil who never crossed the line and in the hours before he died, he joked that nobody would stab him. The pupil from the same school accused of his murder says he lost control after suffering long-term bullying, violence and poor treatment. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Jul 1, 2025 · 23 min
High School Stabbing - Killed on Camera
In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the prosecution opening in the trial of a 15-year-old accused of murdering a fellow pupil, Harvey Willgoose, at a school in Sheffield in February 2025. The attack happened in the school courtyard just minutes into the lunch break. The boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has admitted Harvey’s manslaughter, but denies murder - saying he suffered from a loss of control which his lawyers have claimed was the end result of a long period of bullying. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.