The Trial

The Crime Desk

The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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January 22 · 22 min
Lucy Letby - More Legal Questions
In this episode Caroline and Liz interview senior barrister Tim Owen KC about the news that Lucy Letby will not be facing more charges. We also have an insight into the latest documentary on her case which will be on Netflix on Feb 4. Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: John Rogers Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
January 21 · 45 min
Lucy Letby - Project Countess
In this episode Caroline and Liz sit down with Dr Susan Gilby in her first interview since she was awarded £1.4 million from the NHS. Dr Gilby was appointed CEO of the Countess of Chester Hospital just after Lucy Letby was arrested, but she was then forced to resign. And then she discovered a secret plot named Project Countess had been set up to get rid of her. It's an extraordinary interview about whistleblowing, conspiracy and the shocking waste of tax payers money. Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Producer: Sam Morris Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
January 20 · 25 min
Lucy Letby - No More Charges
In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the news that Lucy Letby will not be charged with more offences. While detectives felt there was enough evidence to charge her with 11 offences - two of murder and nine of attempted murder, the CPS disagreed. So what does it mean? Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Producer: Sam Morris Editor: Alex Graham Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 16, 2025 · 35 min
The Liverpool Parade - Rampage at the parade
In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the sentence of Paul Doyle and play for the first time some of the shocking dashcam footage that sealed his fate. They detail how he spent time in jail as a much younger man for a serious violent offence and how his reputation now lies in tatters. They also speak to a mother and her son, who were caught up in the carnage, and who helped rescue fans trapped beneath Paul Doyle’s Ford Galaxy. And they bring you an interview with hero Dan Barr, the former soldier and supporter who ran towards danger to bring the car to a stop and who has been commended for his bravery. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 15, 2025 · 40 min
The Liverpool Parade - Two Minutes of Carnage
In this episode Caroline and Liz reveal the reason Paul Doyle changed his pleas to guilty - his own dashcam footage. The footage was played in court today and it captured the crucial 2 minutes when he rammed his car into 134 people. Some bounced off his bonnet while others were dragged under the wheels. Many of his victims were in court and they gasped as they saw the carnage he inflicted in just a few seconds. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 12, 2025 · 30 min
The Liverpool Parade - Why did he do it?
Why did Paul Doyle lose control and smash his car into dozens of people as they celebrated Liverpool FC’s league cup win? In this episode, ahead of his sentencing hearing next week Caroline and Liz sit down with Criminologist and former Prison Governor Professor David Wilson who has a possible explanation. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 8, 2025 · 33 min
Should Jury Trials Be Scrapped? - "Not in My Name"
In this third special episode about Government plans to scrap thousands of jury trials Caroline and Liz chat to a survivor of child sexual abuse. Vicki Crawford spent years believing she was culpable for the abuse she suffered at the hands of her sister's older boyfriend when she was just 14, and when she finally did seek justice decades later her experience was one of inefficiency, push back and delay. But despite this, she told us, the jury system is a fundamental right in a democratic system and should be retained at all costs. She also questioned if the Justice Secretary David Lammy had spoken to survivors of sexual violence before he tried to push through his reforms. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 3, 2025 · 36 min
Should Jury Trials Be Scrapped? - The Verdict on Jury Reform
After David Lammy yesterday unveiled his proposals to scrap thousands of jury trials Caroline and Liz have the verdict from one of the country’s top barristers. Chris Henley KC said the Justice Secretary’s plans showed “contempt for ordinary people.” He said the issues in the court system which cause unacceptable delays are “embarrassing” but the jury system was not one of the problems. He also said trust in the justice system would be undermined. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dec 1, 2025 · 42 min
Should Jury Trials Be Scrapped?
Should juries be scrapped? In this special bonus episode Caroline and Liz investigate leaked plans from the justice secretary to abolish jury trials for the majority of cases. It would be a fundamental change to our justice system. And it’s not gone down well. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Nov 26, 2025 · 35 min
The Liverpool Parade - Road Rage
In this episode Caroline and Liz have the reason football fans were knocked down “like skittles” by a former marine. It was road rage. Paul Doyle was driving through the city as dozens of people celebrated Liverpool FCs League title, but he grew agitated that families wouldn’t get out of his way and he ploughed into them in his Ford Galaxy. Today as he dramatically changed his pleas to guilty we have all the details from the court. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Nov 7, 2025 · 42 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - “Why?”
Guilty of harassment but Not Guilty of stalking. That’s the jury’s verdict today on Julia Wandelt’s “relentless” pursuit of the parents of Madeleine McCann. It means she could soon be released from prison and likely deported back to Poland. In this episode Caroline and Claire have all the reactions from the court, including how the McCanns said they hoped she can now get the care and support she needs. Plus we have an interview with Julia Wandelt’s father who told us how damaged she was after she was abused by her step-grandfather and he feels - like the McCanns - that he has also lost his daughter. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Nov 4, 2025 · 28 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - “Crack Pots” and “Nutters”
Today Caroline and Claire have the moment the police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was accused of being in a state of “almost inertia”. The barrister for Karen Spragg said Julia Wandelt was treated like a “nutter” by the police when she said she might be Madeleine McCann, and they should have taken her DNA sooner. The jury were also told that people who were concerned about Madeleine’s abduction were not all “crack pots”. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 31, 2025 · 23 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - The end of the “charade”
In this episode Julia Wandelt accuses Gerry McCann of being involved in the abduction of his daughter Madeleine. She also says he has silenced his wife Kate and she claims officers from The Met may also have threatened her. She said she feels vulnerable since telling her story because people “don’t want the truth to come out.” But, in the final day of her giving evidence, she was accused of fabricating evidence and of creating a charade. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 28, 2025 · 18 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - The ‘Stalker’s’ Story
In this episode Caroline and Claire have the words of Julia Wandelt as she gave evidence for the first time in her defence. She told the jury she wouldn’t have pursued the McCanns if they’d just done a DNA test. It’s also now emerged she was being advised on her media strategy by a publicist in the UK and a Psychic in the US. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 27, 2025 · 5 min
A hello and update from Caroline & Liz
It's been a while since Caroline & Liz had time to catch up and say hello to you all, and with the launch of our exciting new Crime Desk newsletter, thought now was as good a time as any! sign up to the newsletter at newsletter.thecrimedesk.com for free. Become a full member of The Crime Desk with a month’s free trial at www.thecrimedesk.com The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 24, 2025 · 30 min
The McCann Stalkers - “I’m not a nasty person”
In this episode we have the words of the two women on trial. Julia Wandelt told police she was the victim and Karen Spragg accused the McCanns of organising the abduction of their daughter Madeleine. She also said she wasn’t a nasty person. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 22, 2025 · 36 min
High School Stabbing - Harvey’s Killer Named and Jailed
The killer of schoolboy Harvey Willgoose has been named and jailed. Umar Khan was 15 when he stabbed Harvey during the school lunch break in February this year. Today, as he was sent to prison for 16 years, his identity was revealed for the first time. In this episode Caroline and Jack have all the details from Sheffield Crown Court. The Trial of the High School Stabbing is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Sam Morris Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 21, 2025 · 26 min
The McCann Stalkers - The Chats with Chat GPT
Today Caroline and Claire have the evidence that Julia Wandelt had to be convinced she was not two other missing children before she decided she was Madeleine McCann. We also have the evidence from a forensic expert who said her DNA proved she was not Madeleine and we have what Chat GPT told her when she asked if she might be Gerry McCann’s daughter. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 17, 2025 · 28 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - The DNA Evidence
Join Caroline and Claire today for the evidence which the jury have been told is the “conclusive proof” Julia Wandelt is not Madeleine McCann - her DNA. We also have the evidence from two friends of the McCanns who were in Portugal when Madeleine was snatched, who say they were also asked by Julia Wandelt to help her get to the McCanns. And we have some of the details on the man who is the “prime suspect” in Madeleine’s abduction. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Oct 14, 2025 · 25 min
The McCann 'Stalkers' - “I’m not a Liar”
Join Caroline and Claire as the jury in Leicester are told for the first time that Julia Wandelt’s DNA was tested and proved she is not Madeleine McCann. In today’s episode we also have the dozens of voice messages and texts she was sending to Kate McCann. The Trial of the McCann Stalkers is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes. Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod. Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrime Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin Editor: Chelsea Moore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Producer: Chelsea Moore Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices\ The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.