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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.


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  • 112 episodes
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Episodes112

  • March 30 · 21 min

    EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Lucy Letby - The Letby Effect

    This is a preview of the latest Trial+ episode; Lucy Letby -The Letby Effect. The full episode is available exclusively to Crime Desk subscribers. To find out more, visit https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/ In this episode, Caroline and Liz speak with neonatologist Dr Sandie Bohin, an expert witness in the Lucy Letby trial. Since giving evidence, she has faced online harassment and a “campaign of misinformation” that upended her life— but she continues to stand by her testimony. Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Follow us on instagram @TheTrialPod Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Email us thetrial@dailymail.com Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • March 26 · 30 min

    Meta and Google DID cause harm

    In this emergency episode Caroline and Liz have the landmark verdict in Los Angeles that social media companies knew their platforms were addictive. The jury found that Meta and Google harmed a young user with design features that were addictive and led to her mental health distress. The judgement is being called big tech’s “tobacco moment” because it’s likely to open the doors for more claims. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.com Follow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Guests: Matthew Bergman and Carolina Rossini Producer: Chelsey Ranore Editor: Chelsey Ranore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • March 14 · 24 min

    EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: The Nottingham Inquiry - “I believe they were murdered"

    In June 2023, a series of unthinkable attacks in Nottingham killed three people and left three others seriously injured. Students Barnaby Webber and Grace O’Malley-Kumar were fatally stabbed as they walked home from a night out. The attacker then went on to kill school caretaker Ian Coates and steal his van, which was later used to drive into pedestrians in the city centre. The man responsible, Valdo Calocane, had previously been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. He was later given an indefinite hospital order after admitting manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility. Now, a public inquiry is examining whether the tragedy could have been prevented. In the first episode of this series, Caroline and Ryan speak to Emma Webber, Barnaby’s mother, about the first weeks of the Nottingham Inquiry. She describes the long fight by the families to secure the inquiry, the disturbing evidence emerging about missed opportunities to stop the attacker, and why she and the other families remain determined to push for accountability and meaningful change. In the second episode of this series, Caroline speaks to former senior police officer David Gilbertson, to discuss what the inquiry has revealed so far; multiple assaults, accounts of stalking and an arrest warrant that went unexecuted for ten months. We will continue to bring you updates on The Nottingham Inquiry over the coming weeks, over on Trial+ This full episode is available exclusively to Crime Desk subscribers. To find out more, visit https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/ Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Follow us on instagram @TheTrialPod Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Email us thetrial@dailymail.com Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 24 · 10 min

    EXCLUSIVE TRAILER: Lucy Letby - Debunking Her Expert Panel

    In February last year Lucy Letby’s new defence team told a press conference there was no medical evidence of air embolism in the babies she murdered and attacked. Professor Shoo Lee said he had studied all the literature to make his claim. But today we hear his claim was wrong. And the literature to prove it was there all the time. In this episode, Neonatologist Professor Paul Clark explains why what Lucy Letby’s expert panel said is wrong. Using old and new case studies, he debunks what is currently the cornerstone of Lucy Letby’s defence. This is a preview of the latest Trial+ episode; Lucy Letby - Debunking her Expert Panel. The full episode is available exclusively to Crime Desk subscribers. To find out more, visit https://plus.thecrimedesk.com/ Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Follow us on instagram @TheTrialPod Subscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDesk Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Email us thetrial@dailymail.com Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 20 · 55 min

    The Trial of Social Media

    In this episode Caroline and Liz get an insight from a lawyer with a ringside seat of the moment this week when Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg walked into a US courtroom to face the users of his platform who say using social media ruined their lives. They claim he knew the technology was addictive and it was part of his business model to make money at the expense of the mental health of a generation of young people. The case is likely to have huge implications in the UK so we also get the thoughts of Esther Ghey, who has campaigned tirelessly to better protect young people online, since the death of her daughter Brianna three years ago. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.com Follow us on TikTok @DailyMailCrime Email us thetrial@dailymail.com WhatsApp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Liz Hull Producer: Chelsey Ranore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Guests: Matthew Bergman and Esther Ghey A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 13 · 37 min

    The Nursery Paedophile

    Depraved, perverted and wicked - the words used to describe Vincent Chan as he was sentenced to 18 years in prison for abusing the children he was caring for. In this episode Caroline and Ryan have the details of how he used his job working in a nursery and in a school in London to prey on defenceless toddlers and children. He sexually assaulted them and he filmed it - storing the videos and images in files at his home. He also targeted other children and adults too - using a secret camera to record his female friends when they used the bathroom in his home, and he filmed complete strangers through their windows as they undressed. His crimes have devastated hundreds of people who are asking if he could have been stopped earlier. Subscribe via thecrimedesk.com Follow us on Tiktok @DailyMailCrime Email us trial@thecrimedesk.com Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenter: Caroline Cheetham and Ryan Hooper Producer: Chelsey Ranore Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 6 · 49 min

    Cold Case Killer - A Police Blunder To Beggar Belief

    In this episode Caroline and Jack reveal the catalogue of police blunders which may have left the serial killer Steve Wright free to murder five women in Ipswich and raises questions about whether his latest victim, Vicky Hall, could have been saved too. A judge demanded today that Suffolk Police investigate what went wrong, after it emerged police ignored key evidence from another woman who reported Steve Wright tried to kidnap her the night before he succeeded in abducting and murdering 17-year-old Vicky in 1999. Steve Wright, who is known as The Suffolk Strangler, was then handed a life sentence with a minimum of 40 years for the cold case killing. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 3 · 36 min

    Cold Case Killer - How Many More?

    In this episode Caroline and Jack have an exclusive interview with Criminologist Professor David Wilson. In 2008 he predicted that serial killer Steve Wright had murdered Vicky Hall years before. She was aged just 17 when she was kidnapped and murdered in 1999. It took Wright 18 years but yesterday at the Old Bailey he finally admitted it. Today we chat to David about why he was so sure Steve Wright had killed before and if there might be more victims. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 2 · 34 min

    Cold Case Killer - 20 Years On, A Sixth Victim Confirmed

    In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic first day of the trial of serial killer Steve Wright, also known as the Suffolk Strangler, for a cold case murder in 1999. Wright was convicted of murdering five women in Ipswich in 2006 and today he pleaded guilty to the kidnap and murder of 17-year-old Victoria Wood and the attempted kidnap of another woman seven years earlier. It is the first time he has ever admitted to any of his killings. The episode features all the latest from court as well as the questions the case raises about how many other victims Wright may have killed. The Trial series uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript. Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.