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The Systemic Way

Sezer and Julie

The Systemic Way Podcast is a therapy and mental health podcast featuring conversations with experts, practitioners, researchers, and people with lived experience from the worlds of systemic psychotherapy, family therapy, psychology, social work, and community practice. Hosted by Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, the podcast explores mental health, relationships, trauma, resilience, social justice, culture, and change. Through engaging discussions on theory, practice, and real-world experiences, listeners gain a deeper understanding of how systemic and relational approaches can support individuals, families, organisations, and communities.




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Music by Rena Paid

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  • 106 episodes
  • Updated July 27

Episodes106

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  • Apr 24, 2021 · 1 hr 3 min

    Black Therapist - White Families, Therapists’ Perceptions of Cultural Competence and the making of The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health : A conversation with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon

    In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Karen Carberry and Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon about their paper Black Therapists – White Families, therapists’ perceptions of cultural competence in clinical practice (2020) which can be found in The International Handbook of Black Community Mental Health (Majors, Carberry, & Ransaw, 2020).

  • Mar 28, 2021 · 47 min

    The "Good Enough" Family Therapist: A conversation with Amy Urry

    In this episode we speak with systemic psychotherapist, supervisor and trainer, Amy Urry, about ideas in her paper 'THE GOOD ENOUGH FAMILY THERAPIST: We may choose to be Family Therapists but not necessarily in circumstances of our choosing'. In this podcast we draw upon systemic and attachment ideas alongside professional and personal experiences to consider what it means to be an adequate family therapist in professional and personal contexts that fall short of ideal.

  • Mar 14, 2021 · 58 min

    Jason and the Technicolour Social GGRRAAACCEEESSS: In conversation with Jason Maldonado-Page

    In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Jason Maldonado-Page about using the Social GGRRAACCEESS as a vehicle to explore issues of identity, relational reflexivity and self-reflexivity in family therapy. Jason has over twenty years experience working with children, adolescents, adults, couples and families in a variety of statutory and voluntary settings both in the USA and the UK. He is the associate lecturer in systemic practice at the Tavistock and Portman, and also work as an independent family and systemic psychotherapist. Jason has a wide range of clinical experiences including working in specialist services such as eating disorders, gender identity, learning disability and autism spectrum condition, cancer and bereavement.

  • Mar 14, 2021 · 40 min

    Important Factors That Shape My Systemic Practice: In conversation with Dr Ged Smith

    In this episode Sezer and Julie speak with Dr Ged Smith about the factors that have shaped his systemic practice. Dr Ged Smith is a family therapist of more than 25 years in both CAMHS and Adult Services with various NHS Trusts in the North West as well as in Private Practice. He has been teaching, supervising and consulting all over the world in this time, and has many articles published in academic journals and Context, of which he is a regular contributor and deputy editor. His special interests concern power and gender, particularly masculinity and working with men, which was the subject of his Doctoral study

  • Mar 14, 2021 · 58 min

    Multiculturalism, Social Justice and Third Wave Feminism: A conversation with Dr Manijeh Daneshpour

    In this episode Julie and Sezer speak with Dr Manijeh Daneshpour about working with issues of culture and her book Family Therapy with Muslim (2014). Dr Manijeh Daneshpour is a systemwide director and professor of marriage and family therapy in the department of couple and family therapy at Alliant International University in Irvine, California and a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 22 years of academic, research, and clinical experience. She is from Iran and identifies herself as a third wave feminist. Dr. Daneshpour main areas of research, publications, and presentations have been centered on issues of multiculturalism, social justice, third wave feminism, and premarital and marital relationships.