The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast

George Couros

I am a learner, author, speaker, and sometimes I make podcasts talking about any and all of these things. One day, I will rap in my podcasts officially making me a SoundCloud rapper.

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Yesterday · 20 min
Why Creative Risk Matters - From Legendary Producer Larry Kasanoff
What does it take to innovate when everyone else is playing it safe? In this episode of The Innovator's Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with legendary film producer Larry Kasanoff, author of A Touch of Madness, to explore why the biggest breakthroughs in film, business, and education often begin as ideas that others dismiss as impossible. Drawing from his experiences producing films like Platoon and Mortal Kombat, Larry shares why true innovation requires the courage to move away from the comfortable "middle" and pursue ideas that challenge conventional thinking. From listening to a sixth grader who changed an iconic movie character, to explaining why Blockbuster missed Netflix, this conversation is filled with practical lessons for leaders, educators, entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to create meaningful change. George and Larry also explore what these ideas mean for education today. They discuss how schools can nurture creativity instead of compliance, why authentic learning matters more than simply earning grades, and how AI presents both opportunities and challenges for developing original thinkers. Whether you are leading a school, building a business, or simply trying to bring a new idea to life, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about risk, creativity, and innovation. In this episode, you'll learn: Why the safest path often leads to irrelevance How listening to your audience creates better ideas Why asking is one of the most powerful innovation strategies Lessons educators can learn from the film industry How creativity can be developed, protected, and encouraged The role of AI in authentic learning and creative work 📘 Get Larry Kasanoff's book, A Touch of Madness: How to Be More Innovative in Work and Life... by Being a Little Crazy: https://a.co/d/07N0isaK Reflection Questions Are you encouraging innovation, or rewarding people for playing it safe? How can you create an environment where creative risk-taking is valued? What opportunity have you assumed was impossible simply because you never asked? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
Thursday · 18 min
3 Ideas That Turn Professional Learning Into Something Valuable
What makes professional learning actually valuable for educators? In this episode, I reflect on a recent keynote with nearly 400 school and district leaders in Pinellas County and share three powerful ideas that can transform professional learning experiences for teachers, principals, and leadership teams. Drawing from themes in my book Forward, Together, this conversation explores how leaders can create learning experiences where people feel seen, heard, appreciated, and challenged to grow. In this podcast, we discuss: • Why educators need professional learning that feels relevant and personalized • The importance of helping people “see themselves in the story” • How humor and authenticity build stronger connections in leadership • The “Warm Bath, Cold Shower” approach to leadership and growth • Why people are more open to challenge when they know you genuinely care • How school leaders can create better cultures for learning and innovation • Practical strategies for making PD more meaningful and impactful Whether you are a teacher, principal, superintendent, instructional coach, or district leader, this episode shares actionable ideas to improve professional learning, leadership development, and school culture. If you are looking for ways to improve staff engagement, build trust, encourage innovation, and create more meaningful learning experiences in schools, this conversation is for you. 3 Questions for Consideration: How can school leaders create professional learning experiences where educators feel both supported and challenged to grow? What strategies help teachers and staff feel seen, heard, and valued during professional development? How can districts make professional learning more relevant, personalized, and impactful for educators? Signed Copies of Forward Together: https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/JEY8PVRZ6PUJS Link to Newsletter: https://us12.campaign-archive.com/?u=9381017234135a9c6d5f7419a&id=f6260d0fce Forward Together: https://a.co/d/011l40jv ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 26 · 26 min
Model the Learning, Lead the Change - Haven Schools CEO, Brittany Lewis
What does it look like when a CEO models the same learning, risk-taking, and growth she hopes to see throughout her organization? In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros speaks with Brittany Lewis, CEO of Haven Schools, about creating a culture where high expectations for students are matched by a willingness to keep learning and improving as adults. Brittany shares how her own visibility as a learner matters. Rather than asking others to take risks from the sidelines, she puts herself up front, tries new things, and demonstrates that growth requires a willingness to be vulnerable, reflect, and improve. Her example helps create the conditions for staff to take risks in their own learning and find better ways to serve students. The conversation also explores an important question about change: Do we initiate change, or do we wait for change to happen to us? When we take an active role in creating change, we are better positioned to shape what comes next instead of simply reacting to it. This episode is a conversation about high expectations, leadership, organizational learning, risk-taking, and the power of modeling the growth we hope to see in others. Learn more about Haven Schools. Questions for Reflection: How do leaders model the learning and risk-taking they hope to see in others? How can high expectations for students be matched by high expectations for adult learning and growth? Where might we initiate change instead of waiting for change to happen to us? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 23 · 13 min
The Power of Proving The People Who Support You Right! - George Couros
Have you ever found yourself spending more energy focused on critics than on the people who have supported you all along? In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros explores a powerful shift in perspective: moving from the desire to prove doubters wrong to the commitment to prove believers right. Inspired by a comment from NBA player Jared McCain, George reflects on how encouragement from one educational leader changed the trajectory of his career and why the people who believe in us often deserve more of our attention than the people who don't. Through personal stories, lessons from leadership, and reflections on gratitude, purpose, and growth, this conversation explores a different kind of motivation, one rooted in honoring opportunity rather than responding to criticism. Whether you're an educator, leader, parent, or someone navigating a challenging season, this episode is a reminder to recognize those who have invested in you and to use that belief as fuel for growth. Questions for Reflection and Conversation: When facing criticism or setbacks, do you spend more time focused on proving doubters wrong or proving supporters right? Who are the people who believed in you during a pivotal moment in your life, and how has their support influenced your journey? How might your mindset, work, or leadership change if gratitude toward your supporters became a greater source of motivation than criticism from others? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 19 · 22 min
Building Better School Leaders Through Meaningful Mentorship - Justin Faulkner
What does it take to develop school leaders who are prepared for the realities of today's educational landscape? In this episode of The Innovator's Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with Justin Faulkner, founder and CEO of Connected Leadership Partners, to discuss how leadership development can move beyond theory and become practical, relevant, and immediately applicable. Drawing from his experience as a teacher, coach, principal, higher education faculty member, and researcher, Justin shares insights from his work supporting leadership pipelines across Florida. Together, they explore why many principal preparation programs fall short, how leadership development should be grounded in real-world challenges, and why building strong professional networks may be just as important as the content itself. The conversation also dives into the concept of fractional leadership, a model borrowed from the business world that helps schools and districts access expertise in innovative ways without adding full-time positions. Justin explains how districts can leverage existing talent, rethink traditional structures, and create more flexible systems to support growth and innovation. Additional topics include: • What Justin's research revealed about principal preparation programs • Why stress management is often the biggest leadership preparation gap • The importance of learning from leaders who are currently doing the work • How coaching and cohort-based learning accelerate leadership growth • The role of AI and emerging technologies in leadership development • Why relationships and networking often become the most valuable part of professional learning • How iterative feedback helps organizations continually improve leadership programs • Lessons educational leaders can learn from working in the restaurant industry Whether you're an aspiring administrator, a veteran principal, district leader, or someone passionate about leadership development, this conversation offers practical ideas for building stronger leadership pipelines and creating systems that support meaningful growth. Questions for Reflection and Conversation: What leadership skills are most difficult to learn through traditional preparation programs and require experience, coaching, or mentorship? How could your school or district better leverage the expertise that already exists within your organization? What structures help leaders move from simply learning new ideas to consistently implementing them in practice? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 16 · 11 min
The Danger of Inconsistent Expectations - What behaviors do you ignore and celebrate?
In this podcast, we explore a question that quietly shapes every classroom, team, and organization: What gets ignored, and what gets corrected? Through stories from basketball officiating, classroom teaching, and school leadership, George Couros reflects on how inconsistent expectations can unintentionally shape culture. Why do some people get held to impossible standards while others are continually excused? And what message does that send to the people who consistently show up, care deeply, and do the right thing? This conversation dives into: • Why inconsistent accountability erodes trust • How low expectations can quietly become normalized • The hidden cost of overburdening high performers • What people actually notice in leadership and culture • How expectations ultimately shape organizational culture As discussed in “Forward, Together,” culture is not only built through mission statements or strategic plans, but also through what leaders permit, ignore, correct, and reinforce every single day. Questions for reflection: What behaviors are being unintentionally normalized in your organization? Are your highest performers being developed, or simply relied upon? What do people learn from what gets ignored? “When we excuse poor behavior long enough, it becomes normalized. And when we punish excellence too often, it becomes unsustainable.” ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 12 · 18 min
Ownership at every level in education - Carolee Ogata
In this episode of The Innovator's Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with Carolee Ogata, Superintendent of Huntington Beach Union High School District, to explore what it looks like when schools move beyond compliance and create cultures of true ownership. Carolee shares how some of the district's most impactful opportunities, including Model UN, AVID, IB, performing arts, entrepreneurship programs, and career pathways, were not created by central office leaders. Instead, they were developed and led by educators who saw possibilities and took initiative. The conversation explores why ownership matters more than buy-in, how leaders can create the conditions for innovation without controlling the process, and why empowering staff ultimately leads to greater opportunities for students. Through stories of student entrepreneurship, leadership, performing arts, and real-world learning, George and Carolee discuss how schools can help students do more than prepare for the future; they can make an impact today. Key topics include: • The difference between buy-in and ownership • Why teachers are often the most creative people in the organization • Creating conditions where innovation can thrive • Student ownership and authentic learning opportunities • Building diverse pathways that help every learner succeed • Leadership strategies that empower rather than control Reflection and Conversation Questions: What is the difference between asking people to buy into an idea and creating opportunities for them to develop ownership of it? How can leaders create conditions where teachers and students feel empowered to initiate meaningful change? What opportunities exist in your school or organization to move from compliance-driven practices toward greater ownership and innovation? Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, innovation, learning, and creating cultures where people thrive. ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 9 · 16 min
Hard work fails when lacking discipline - George Couros
In this episode, I explore an idea that stuck with me during a long run: many of the qualities we admire most only work when connected to something else that gives them balance and direction. Courage without wisdom can become recklessness. Hard work without discipline often leads to frustration. Innovation without a strong understanding of the basics rarely lasts. Throughout this conversation, I share personal stories about weight loss, marathon training, writing, investing, education, AI, and even learning piano, all centered around one idea: strengths become far more powerful when paired with the qualities that ground them. I also discuss: • Why habits become more meaningful when connected to long-term goals • The danger of romanticizing “risk-taking” in education • Why foundational skills still matter in an AI-driven world • How great teaching resembles jazz improvisation • Why growth often comes from balance, not extremes This episode is a reminder that success is rarely about one isolated trait. It is about understanding the relationships between the qualities that help us grow personally and professionally. Questions for reflection: What strength in your life might need a balancing quality beside it? Are your habits connected to goals that truly matter to you? What foundational skills should we protect and strengthen in a rapidly changing world? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 5 · 38 min
Navigating Tough Conversations in School Leadership - Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns
In this episode, we dive into one of the most challenging parts of leadership in education: navigating difficult conversations with staff, caregivers, colleagues, and school communities. Inspired by the book Connecting Through Conversation, this discussion goes beyond theory and into practical, real-world strategies that help leaders communicate with clarity, empathy, and confidence. We share stories from our own experiences in education leadership, including conversations that went well, conversations we would handle differently today, and the specific approaches that helped build stronger relationships and healthier school cultures. From addressing conflict and accountability to staying grounded during emotionally charged moments, this episode is packed with practical insights school leaders can use immediately. Questions explored in this episode include: • Why do so many school leaders avoid difficult conversations until situations become much harder than they need to be? • How can leaders balance accountability with empathy during emotionally charged situations? • What are practical strategies leaders can use to stay calm, grounded, and productive during high stakes conversations? • How can avoiding difficult conversations actually damage school culture more than having them? • What leadership lessons have we learned from difficult conversations we would handle differently today? Whether you are a principal, superintendent, instructional coach, teacher leader, or aspiring administrator, this conversation will help you think differently about communication, leadership, and culture in schools. Book Referenced in This Episode: Connecting Through Conversation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GWWC65JW ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
July 2 · 18 min
The Sponge Factor and Lifelong Learning - George Couros
What does it mean to stay teachable in a world changing faster than ever? In this episode, I reflect on the work of Daniel Pink and revisit an idea I first wrote about in 2015 called “The Sponge Factor,” the ability to absorb knowledge, feedback, and experiences, then transform them into better ideas and practices. We explore why this mindset matters more than ever in education and leadership, especially as AI and emerging technologies continue reshaping the future of work and learning. I also share personal examples of how I’ve tried to develop “sponginess” over the years, including: • Learning guitar and piano later in life • How blogging shaped my thinking and growth as a writer • Why consuming ideas I disagree with has made me a stronger learner and leader This conversation dives into curiosity, feedback, growth, skepticism, creativity, and why adaptability may become one of the most important human skills in the future. As I shared earlier this year: “We are not only preparing students for jobs that don’t currently exist, but also a workplace where many jobs will no longer exist.” If we want students to thrive in uncertainty, we have to help them become learners who can continually adjust, grow, and create. Questions for reflection: What experiences have helped you become more adaptable as a learner? How do we create schools and organizations that value growth over certainty? Are we helping students memorize information, or helping them learn how to learn? Link to Dan Pink video: https://www.instagram.com/p/DYUlEnSsS5q Link to Blog Post: https://georgecouros.com/the-sponge-factor-dan-pink/ ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 28 · 22 min
Building Culture Through Competitive-Collaboration - Tara Estep and Eric Rosburg
What does it take to create a school culture where people feel supported, challenged, and genuinely connected to the work? In this conversation, I sit down with Tara Estep and Eric Rosburg from the Cedar Falls Community Schools to discuss how they intentionally build community-centered cultures that bring initiatives to life instead of simply asking people to comply with change. We explore the idea of “competitive collaboration,” where educators push one another to grow while also providing the support needed to succeed. Tara and Eric also share how Professional Learning Communities (PLCs) became a meaningful part of learning in their district because the work was built from the teacher perspective, with educators leading the implementation instead of having it done to them. In this episode, we discuss: How strong relationships make meaningful change possible Why ownership matters more than buy-in What “competitive collaboration” looks like in practice How teacher-led PLCs created deeper engagement and learning Ways leaders can create conditions where people thrive together Questions for reflection: Are the initiatives in your organization built with people or for people? How can collaboration both challenge and support growth? What changes when teachers help lead the learning instead of simply receiving it? If you enjoyed this conversation, like, subscribe, and share with someone passionate about leadership, culture, and meaningful learning. ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 25 · 20 min
Ownership Over Buy-In
You can pick up your copy of "Forward, Together" here on Amazon: https://a.co/d/04wH2gP8 One of the biggest leadership challenges in education is not getting people to “buy in,” but creating true ownership. In this episode, I explore the difference between compliance and commitment, and why schools that build ideas together are far more likely to create lasting change. Drawing from experiences as a teacher and principal, as well as ideas from my book Forward, Together, I share practical ways leaders can create cultures where people feel heard, valued, and connected to the direction of their organization. In this conversation, we discuss: • Why “buy-in” often creates short-term movement, while ownership builds long-term commitment • How mission and vision processes can unite entire school communities • Why healthy disagreement and respectful challenge strengthen organizations • The importance of acting on feedback instead of simply “hearing” people • A personal leadership story about choosing trust over winning an argument If we want meaningful and sustainable change in schools, people need more than inspiration. They need influence on the journey. Questions for Consideration: Are we trying to convince people to support initiatives, or are we creating opportunities for them to help shape them? Do people in our organization feel safe challenging ideas while still feeling valued? How often does feedback actually influence decisions in visible and meaningful ways? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 21 · 22 min
How to spark curiosity in learning - Olivia Odileke
What happens when we stop focusing on delivering information and start creating the conditions for curiosity? In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with educator, instructional coach, and conference founder Olivia Odileke to explore why curiosity may be the most important skill we can cultivate in schools today. Olivia shares the inspiration behind the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, an immersive conference designed to help educators move beyond compliance-driven instruction and create learning experiences that spark thinking, wonder, and engagement. Together, they discuss the role of psychological safety, the difference between retention and learning, the challenges facing modern classrooms, and how educators can rediscover joy and purpose in their work. In this conversation, you'll learn: • Why curiosity is the foundation for problem-solving, adaptability, persistence, and deeper learning • How "discovery before delivery" can transform classroom experiences • The importance of psychological safety for both students and educators • Why changing student experiences starts with changing adult experiences • How AI can support instructional decision-making without replacing human connection • Practical strategies educators can use immediately to spark engagement and thinking You'll also hear about innovative elements of the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, including the Spark Wall, Shout-Out Wall, Fearless Educator Radio, and Olivia's Micro-Inquiry Framework. Connect with Olivia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-odileke/ Learn more about the conference: https://sparkcuriosityedu.com/ Questions for Reflection and Conversation: What are we doing in our classrooms that sparks curiosity before delivering information? How can we create greater psychological safety for both students and educators to take risks and learn? Are our students primarily consuming information, or are they actively uncovering and constructing understanding? #Curiosity #Education #Teaching #Learning #InstructionalDesign #StudentEngagement #EducationalLeadership #InnovationInEducation #InquiryBasedLearning #TeacherDevelopment #EdChat #AIinEducation #TheInnovatorsMindset #SparkCuriosity #ProfessionalLearning ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 18 · 18 min
The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters - On the latest Jonathan Haidt TED Talk
Technology has made so many aspects of our lives easier. We can access information instantly, communicate in seconds, and use powerful AI tools with little training. But as technology removes friction, an important question emerges: Are we helping students develop the capacity to do hard things? In this episode, I explore ideas sparked by a recent TED Talk from Jonathan Haidt and reflect on the relationship between technology, attention, learning, and personal growth. While technology itself may be easier than ever to use, the work that leads to meaningful growth, deep learning, strong relationships, and thoughtful leadership often requires effort, persistence, and discomfort. We discuss: • Why learning technology is often easier than learning how to use it wisely • The connection between attention, distraction, and meaningful work • How convenience can sometimes work against growth and learning • Why difficult conversations, deep reading, and thoughtful writing still matter • What schools can do to help students embrace challenge rather than avoid it • The importance of becoming "techno-curious," balancing both skepticism and wonder Questions for Reflection and Conversation As technology becomes easier to use, what skills and dispositions become more important for students to develop? Where might convenience be helping learning, and where might it be unintentionally limiting growth? How can educators create experiences that encourage students to pursue meaningful challenges instead of always choosing the easiest path? What is something difficult in your own life that ultimately made you better because you worked through it? How do we help students use technology not just efficiently, but purposefully? Referenced Blog Post: The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters https://georgecouros.com/the-easier-technology-gets-haidt/ This episode expands on the ideas shared in the blog and explores why, in a world where technology makes so much easier, helping students develop resilience, curiosity, critical thinking, and a willingness to embrace challenge may be more important than ever. ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 14 · 17 min
Building a community of belonging in education - Nancy Chung
In this conversation with Nancy Chung, we explore what it really means to create a culture of belonging in schools, not only for students, but for educators as well. We discuss the importance of community in the classroom, why joy matters in education, and how educators can recover after difficult days without losing their passion for the work they do. Nancy also shares her journey of becoming a content creator in education, how she started building her online presence, and practical advice for educators who want to begin sharing their voice and ideas through social media. This episode is a reminder that strong schools are built through relationships, authenticity, resilience, and a willingness to keep showing up for one another. Nancy Chung’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fancynancyin5th/ Learn more about Nancy and her work: Questions for Consideration: What are some intentional ways we can help students and staff feel a true sense of belonging? How can educators recover from difficult days while still maintaining joy in their work? If you want to share your voice online, what is one small step you could take to start today? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: X: https://x.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 11 · 18 min
"Human Still Required" by Jeff Utecht - An Epic Book Review
In this episode, I explore Human Still Required by Jeff Utecht and why this book will still matter 15 to 20 years from now. While it centers on artificial intelligence, its real power is in how it challenges leadership, decision making, and the systems we build in education. Rather than focusing on tools that will inevitably change, this conversation digs into what does not change: clarity of purpose, intentional design, and the human role in learning. If you are thinking about AI in schools, this discussion will help you move beyond hype and into meaningful, sustainable practice. Below are key passages discussed in the episode: “What AI does better than any previous disruption is expose systems exactly as they are. Strong leadership becomes more visible. Weak leadership becomes harder to hide. Productive habits get amplified. Hollow ones collapse faster. AI doesn’t ask schools to change their values—but it does demand that leaders finally be honest about them.” “There’s a temptation right now to double down on difficulty, or to retreat to paper and pencil, offline tasks, and analog work, to make tasks harder so AI can’t complete them easily. This is a mistake. Harder is not better. Clearer is better. Going offline may limit access to AI, but it doesn’t automatically increase thinking. Harder tasks and analog tools only matter if they are intentionally designed to develop skills. Otherwise, they simply slow the work down without deepening it. Paper-and-pencil work is valuable when the goal is the skill of handwriting, annotation, or sustained attention. But if the goal is judgment, analysis, transfer, or reflection, the medium is secondary to the thinking required. AI doesn’t expose a digital problem. It exposes a design problem.” “Leaders don’t need to oversell this. They need to name it clearly. Try language like: ‘We’re going to use AI to reduce administrative load, not raise expectations.’ ‘If the tool saves time, we’re reinvesting that time into instruction and support.’ ‘AI can draft and summarize. People still decide.’ ‘If something matters, a human reads it before it goes out.’ ‘We’re not chasing tools. We’re protecting human attention.’ That’s the tone schools need: calm, direct, and grounded.” “You cannot welcome the future while pretending the past didn’t matter.” “You cannot standardize personalization.” “Tradition matters. It carries wisdom, memory, and identity. But tradition without reflection hardens into habit—and habits don’t justify themselves. Many school practices continue not because they work, but because they’re familiar.” If you are a school leader, educator, or anyone thinking about the future of learning, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to lead through change without losing what matters most. 📘 Check out the book here: https://a.co/d/00rfVyw2 ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 7 · 25 min
Culture, Nuance, and Leadership - A Conversation with Todd Nesloney
In this conversation, I sit down with Todd Nesloney to talk about what truly creates meaningful leadership and culture in schools. Todd shares powerful insights from his work with the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association (TEPSA), focusing on why people in education need to feel seen, valued, and appreciated, not just managed. We discuss how authentic leadership is often found in small, intentional moments, and why the best leaders never stop learning from the people around them. We also explore a timely conversation around nuance in leadership and social media. In a world where online conversations often push people toward extremes, how do we create dialogue that brings people together instead of driving them further apart? Todd shares why great leadership is rarely simple, and why the most meaningful work is often messy, human, and complex. This episode is full of practical leadership wisdom, thoughtful reflection, and reminders about the importance of connection in education today. Todd Nesloney Website: https://www.toddnesloney.com/about/ Todd’s Books: https://www.toddnesloney.com/books/ George Couros Blog Post on Todd: https://georgecouros.com/curiosity-and-connection/ ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
June 4 · 17 min
3 Ways to Change the "System" from Within - George Couros
Is the “system” really the problem in education, or is it something we have more influence over than we think? In this episode, we challenge a common narrative in education: blaming “the system.” While constraints like standardized testing and schedules are real, many of the limitations we experience are actually created within those constraints. The conversation explores how educators and leaders can rethink their approach by recognizing that systems are made up of people, and people have the power to change them. Through real examples, this discussion highlights how innovation doesn’t require breaking the system, but rather reimagining how we work within it. From redefining professional learning to creating more meaningful classroom experiences, the focus is on shifting from identifying problems to taking ownership of solutions. This episode is a reminder that leadership is not just about recognizing what is broken, but about having the courage to propose something better, even within existing expectations. 🔗 Read the full post here: https://mailchi.mp/georgecouros/becoming-the-bison-15557066 3 Questions to Consider Where in your work are you blaming “the system” instead of identifying what you can influence or change? What is one constraint you face that might actually offer more flexibility than you initially thought? When you see a problem, do you stop at identifying it, or do you take the next step of proposing a better solution? ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
May 31 · 16 min
Building the Future in Education - Dr. Peggy Buffington
In this conversation with Dr. Peggy Buffington from the Hobart School District, we explore what it looks like to build a future-focused school system while honoring the traditions and values that make a community strong. Known as the Brickies, Hobart has embraced the mindset of “building the future one brick at a time,” combining innovation, work ethic, and opportunity to create powerful outcomes for students. Peggy shares how the district chose not to fear artificial intelligence when tools like ChatGPT emerged, but instead created teacher pilot groups to explore how AI could expand learning opportunities for students and staff. We also dive into Hobart’s remarkable early college program, where students can graduate with associate’s degrees, college credits, and industry certifications in areas like Adobe, Microsoft, Autodesk, and healthcare. The program not only saves families thousands of dollars, but also helps students discover meaningful career pathways before making expensive post-secondary decisions. Throughout the conversation, we discuss: • Why innovation is about finding “new and better ways” to support learning • How schools can approach AI with curiosity instead of fear • The importance of productive struggle for both educators and students • Scaling great ideas across a school community • Learner-centered approaches to technology, one-to-one devices, and cell phone policies • Why schools remain the bedrock of strong communities Peggy also shares how Hobart’s culture encourages educators to take risks, share ideas openly, and continue learning together while staying deeply connected to the traditions that define the district. If you are interested in AI in education, innovative leadership, early college pathways, or creating schools that prepare students for an ever-changing future, this conversation offers practical insights and inspiring stories. ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
May 28 · 17 min
3 Lessons That Can Shape a Child for Life
This episode dives into a deeply personal story that reveals how a single moment in childhood can leave a lasting imprint on confidence, identity, and future direction. Reflecting on an experience of being belittled by peers and unsupported by an adult, the conversation explores how negative moments can linger, but also how the presence of a caring adult can redefine how those moments are remembered. The episode highlights a powerful truth, that growth and pain are not mutually exclusive. While adversity can shape resilience and lead to unexpected opportunities, it does not erase the emotional weight of the experience. From quitting hockey to finding confidence through basketball, this story emphasizes how belief, opportunity, and environment can transform a child’s trajectory. Ultimately, this conversation is a reflection for educators, parents, and leaders. It challenges us to consider the impact we have in everyday interactions, and how small actions, or inaction, can shape how young people see themselves for years to come. 3 Takeaways: A single supportive adult can dramatically influence how a child processes both positive and negative experiences. Confidence grows through opportunity and belief, not just natural ability or talent. Difficult experiences can build resilience, but they can also leave lasting emotional impact, both can be true at the same time. Get your copy of “Forward, Together” here on Amazon! https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 ___________ 👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset 🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com 🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros Follow George Couros: Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519 📚 Books by George Couros: Forward, Together: https://a.co/d/99RGvl3 The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20 Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/