Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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Jul 11, 2023 · 1 hr 29 min
162. US Track Championships, Tour de France Science, and Speed Development!
This episode was one of our favorites ever! The main discussion was on stories from the US Track Championships, and lessons that can apply to all athletes. Even if you don't follow track, we think you'll come away from this discussion ready to shoot the scariest shots. Believe! We also talked about some of the science of the Tour de France, where training and fueling theories are put to the test at the limits of human performance. We can learn a lot at the edge. And at this edge, one thing we learn: eat all the carbs. Carbs make champions, it's science! And we had tons of other fun discussions! Topics: iron levels, altitude acclimation, a debate about junk miles, running uphill, focused speed development, a wild new study on evolution (and how that might apply to athletics), a study on fatigue resistance in women, body image, and hot takes. All of our bodies, like all of our takes, are very, VERY HOTTT. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
Jul 4, 2023 · 1 hr 22 min
161. The Future of Endurance Training, Western States Follow-Ups, and Thoughts on Supershoes!
We put on our party super-shoes on for this joyful episode! The main discussion was on a new study on the evolution of world-class endurance training. We dig into researcher predictions before providing a bunch of predictions of our own. How will new tools and wearables change the game? What about artificial intelligence? Can AI do what we do as coaches? It probably can. As soon as AI learns to give affirmations of love and belief, we are screwed. The future is going to be so full of excitement, and we can't wait to share our thoughts with you! Other topics: the benefits of dreaming while you're awake, our big dreams, supersized mid-run fueling strategies for adaptation and performance, Western States follow-ups, the power of working together in races, thoughts on how to use supershoes, running with poles, body acceptance, and hot takes. During hot takes, we may have lost some friends in Florida. Just kidding! We don't have friends in Florida because they were all eaten by pythons. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
Jun 27, 2023 · 1 hr 33 min
160. Courtney Dauwalter Makes History, Western States 100 Stories, and Why Ultras May Never Be The Same!
WOW, we just witnessed a Western States 100 that may change how ultras are run forever! We recorded this episode right after spending all day and night coaching and cheering at the race, so our voices are wavering, but our excitement is UNSTOPPABLE. We couldn't wait to tell you everything about the event, focusing on stories and lessons that will be helpful even if you don't race ultras. The big story was Courtney Dauwalter's legendary course record performance, taking 75 minutes off the previous best. We discuss whether it was the best performance in endurance history (yes), and whether we will ever doubt Courtney in the future (no). She gave a tailwind to the entire women's field, in a group of performances that we think may change how ultras are run in the future. The edge may be farther away than we think, and that has some incredibly exciting implications for what we know about human endurance! And that was just part of the joy of the day! Other topics: fueling lessons, pacing, endurance science, coaching at the race, training takeaways, tradeoffs between the brain and the body, lots of studies, and so much more. This race was a small step for a Courtney, but one giant leap for Courtneykind! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
Jun 21, 2023 · 1 hr 28 min
159. Western States 100 Thoughts, New Study on Low Energy Availability, and Broken Arrow Skyraces!
We had a party on this episode with so many fun topics! Training discussions were mixed in throughout, like chocolate chips in a BIG cookie. That included how to mix intensity-controlled intervals with harder VO2 work, uphill running form (lean forward!), the importance of threshold and critical speed in all events, and what happens when your private parts go lactic. Things got a bit wild! But our favorite segments involved the Western States 100 and Broken Arrow Skyraces! The Western States breakdown started with a podcast-exclusive statistics analysis of the best performances ever. The data took us through an adventure into advanced statistics in other sports, how they change those games, and how stats could change running. We finished with stories and predictions! We think the course record is going down, and we'll tell you why. Plus, we had fun recapping lessons from Broken Arrow that could apply to all athletes. And there was so much more joy! Other topics: Megan's PhD graduation, humor as a defense mechanism, the head versus the heart in running and life, improving climbing, and an important new study on low energy availability. Just wait until you hear about these study findings. Keep that fire burning sooooo hot! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: drinkAG1.com/swap
Jun 13, 2023 · 1 hr 31 min
158. World Championships Analysis, How To Train For Shorter Distances, and Improving Climbing!
We brought a heaping helping of excitement to this episode to celebrate the most wonderful time of the running year! The main discussion was on the 2023 World Championships for trail and ultra-running. We break down the storylines, including an analysis of race tactics and training for WORLD CHAMPION Grayson Murphy. The courses were absolutely wild, and there are lessons for all athletes. Some of those lessons are about training and racing, and some are about not trying to cool yourself off with bottled sparkling water. Though it does sound quite refreshing! The main training topic was on training for shorter events, and how those principles apply to optimizing potential at every distance from the mile to 100 miles. The fastest runners in the world use intensity-controlled principles even when they are racing very short distances. We zoom out from examples on the track to talk about how the same principles are at play in longer distances. Physiology is SO COOL! Except GI tract physiology. It knows what it did. And that was just the start of the fun! Other topics: getting hyped for the Western States 100, an incredible story about coaching and love, how to improve uphill running, whether intervals should be steep, the tradeoff between aerobic and mechanical adaptations, 9 hot takes from listeners, 3 world records from the track, track super-spikes, and a listener corner about shooting your shot. You'll never guess what a listener said about squirrels in the Hot Takes segment. We love our listeners and their weird takes! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Precision Nutrition 15% discount: https://visit.pfandh.com/SWAP Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Jun 6, 2023 · 1 hr 25 min
157. How We Think About Energy Intake, Science on Coaching, and DREAMING BIG!
This episode was the most fun ever, perfect timing for the 3-YEAR PODCAST ANNIVERSARY! The main training topic was on what it means to dream big, and why it matters for physiology as much as it does for the brain. Our exploration of the dream-big topic navigated through our own journeys (including our plans with the podcast), the science of coaching, and how small nudges can fundamentally change our long-term trajectories. We also geeked out on some fascinating scientific takeaways from the ACSM Conference, including calorie counting (and why we are against it), psychological factors of performance and coaching, and fueling and Boston Marathon results. Our car was stolen at the conference, but it was worth it for the sexy science. One Subaru in exchange for 30 minutes of podcast material and a few jokes? DEAL. And our fun really boiled over on the rest of the episode! Other topics: lessons from 3 years of the podcast, a Molly Shannon book excerpt that will blow your mind, why we are so inspired by the people who took our car, a listener question about calibrating energy intake, how people pleasing may affect injury rates, a study on the placebo effect in mentorship, timing your iron intake (and how iron may interact with mental health), a review of recent menstrual cycle studies, and HOT TAKES. These takes are too hot for TV. We hope you enjoy this celebration as much as we did, and half as much as one of our listeners enjoys their cat (it'll make sense after Hot Takes). For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Precision Nutrition 15% discount: https://visit.pfandh.com/SWAP Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
May 30, 2023 · 1 hr 21 min
156. Strength Work Tips, New Golden Ticket Races, and Brain Circuits and Habits!
We filled our wine glasses with protein powder for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on how athletes can think about strength work. It's an area where our coaching approach has evolved over time based on how we have seen the research interact with real-world performance! Should you use lighter weight or heavier weight? One set or multiple sets? Should you be grunting like you're passing a kidney stone the size of a pineapple? We break down the magic exercises, highlighting studies that show rapid adaptations for health and performance. Strength work can even be fun! Yeah, we said it. FUN. Like if the DMV hosted a dance party! Maybe the strength work is giving us better endurance, because we talked about so many fun things on this episode! Other topics: realizations about work, why having a bike can be helpful for all athletes, a massive ultrarunning project from Lululemon, cool science on brain function in habit formation, our favorite fuel and hydration company (BAGs for life), our thoughts on the new Golden Ticket races that were just announced, and HOT TAKES. Our listeners have some spicy thoughts! It's going to take 12 wine-glass protein shakes to wash out this spice. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Precision Nutrition 15% discount: https://visit.pfandh.com/SWAP Ultra Legs strength: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LV905EEKAM Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
May 23, 2023 · 1 hr 30 min
155. Hormones and Athletics, Ultra Legs Strength, and Improving Technical Running!
We woke up before sunrise like it was Christmas morning for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on simple tips to improve technical running, and how the principles of thinking about form on difficult terrain can also improve health and performance on roads. After this episode, you'll believe in the ultimate power of THE CHOP. We also talked about a wonderful new study (led by Dr. Megan) with a whopping 10-year time horizon, looking at improving health outcomes in collegiate athletes. The conclusions have profound implications for how we think about athletics, performance, and culture! And that was just the start of the fun! Other topics: hormones and athletics through the lens of a listener question about how training impacts their sex drive, the science of collagen, the perils of professional running (that may apply to whatever your profession is too), the debut of the long-awaited Ultra Legs strength routine, and MORE HOT TAKES. You'll hear about someone out there with a truly bonkers approach to preventing blisters. We can't wait for you to find out and share our horrified admiration. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
May 16, 2023 · 1 hr 18 min
154. Spicy Hot Takes, Long-Term Training Studies, and Protein Powders!
It's getting hot in here, so we took off most of our clothes for PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on a new review study looking at all of the research on long-term training approaches. What works? What doesn't? On a scale of 0 to infinity, how much ice cream should you be eating? We have 3 takeaways for all levels of athletes about training volume, deemphasizing VO2 max, and cross training. Ice cream is implied! We use that study as a jumping-off point to discuss how our training methodology has changed over time, focusing on how we have evolved on workout structure, speed, hill strides v. flat strides, and aerobic blocks. And that was just an appetizer for our favorite new segment: HOT TAKES. Listeners sent in 12 of their hottest takes about running and life, which we reacted to. You'll laugh. You'll learn something. You'll be mortified at how wrong some people are (including us). Be ready for wisdom and whimsy! Other topics: shoes we recommend, a discussion about protein intake, protein powder reviews, race photos, and body image as an athlete. This one was so much fun! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
May 9, 2023 · 1 hr 18 min
153. Grayson Murphy Interview! World Champion Talks Happiness and Athletics!
We are so excited for this episode where we got to party with one of our favorite people: Grayson Murphy. She was fresh off a double national championship, winning the U.S. Uphill Champs on one day, followed by the U.S. Mountain Champs the next day, both in dominant fashion. In a few short years, she has established herself as one of the best trail runners in world history. How did she do it? Grayson describes a journey that was as much emotional as physical, learning to find happiness in the long-term process. Her incredible story features going to college to play soccer before finding out she was quite good at this running thing, becoming a professional and learning that she needed to follow a different path, and then courageously blazing her own trail in the sport. Her race wins are cool, but what's so inspiring about Grayson is her independent spirit, and how she has discovered that she gets to decide what it means to be successful in athletics. And that was just the start! Grayson talks about everything from overcoming competition anxiety to dealing with injuries to her fueling secret (dino nuggets sponsorship please). We hope this episode leaves you with inspiration to take the trail that's most meaningful to you. Especially if that trail is a bit overgrown and scary! Buy the Training Log and Planner here, with 50% off for a limited time: https://www.racin-grayson.com/pages/2023-training-log-planner For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
May 2, 2023 · 1 hr 28 min
152. Canyons 100k Lessons, 5 Rules for Fueling During Runs, and Lower Volume Training!
We did a happy dance for the most wonderful day of the week: Podcast Tuesday! The main discussion was on fun takeaways from racing the Canyons 100k. David stepped up into the unknown and was 5th place! But what made the day really special was hitting a low point when it seemed impossible, and finding out that there was more to give. Our suggestion is to try something really big and really scary, whether it's in athletics or something else. Shoot those shots! The race discussion led to tons of fascinating topics: the science of "deception" in hot conditions, drug testing, the role of ego, the power of subconscious expectations, inspiration from people pushing their limits, and so much more! We also discuss the wildly uncertain area of electrolyte consumption, and how population-wide recommendations may not apply to individual athletes. This race was the most fun experience OF ALL TIME, and we can't wait to do more of these. Hopefully this discussion will inspire you to try something that seems unthinkable! And that was just the start! Other topics: the US Mountain Championships and the legend of Grayson Murphy, 5 rules for fueling runs based on duration and intensity, a shocking revelation about our favorite grocery store, last week's news of a positive drug test from an elite triathlete, and a question from a listener on how to optimize fitness at lower training volumes. Our only concern is that the happy dances on this episode may lead to cheek cramping (faces and butts). Keep the salt pills close by. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Apr 25, 2023 · 1 hr 25 min
151. Blood Volume Science, Emotions and Performance, and Double Doctor Celebration!
We put our party hats on for the ultimate celebration: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on lactate shuttles in the body, and the connection between lactate and fatigue at all intensity levels. It's so fascinating how this molecule connects what we all feel during training, from a professional athlete to someone who is going on their first hike! But the main discussion was on Megan's PhD defense and her research in female athlete health and performance. The study findings = IMPORTANT. The double doctor swag = ACTIVATED. We discuss takeaways from tackling big scary goals! The main one to remember is that wearing black prevents the pit stains from being too obvious. And you better believe we were just ramping up! Other topics: rapid protocols for heat adaptation and how that may impact performance in all conditions, a new study that connects blood volume to short-term fitness changes, emotional state and performance, our thoughts on a big scandal in ultra running, adaptation to downhill running, dopamine and perceived exertion, the interaction of running and cross training, and a follow-up on training the stomach for people with really bad stomachs. Your farts are not your destiny! We had such a great time with this one. May your races be cool and your fitness be hot! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Apr 18, 2023 · 1 hr 23 min
150. How To Improve Fueling, Boston Marathon Hot Takes, and Longevity and Running Science!
We turned our happiness meters to 100 for our favorite day: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the science of gut training. The stomach needs to be trained in a methodical way just like the aerobic system, but people rarely talk about how much this part of training theory plays a role in endurance. We discuss the mechanisms, studies, and considerations, ending with 4 tips to improve your performance and health. Your gut is beautifully unique and important! No matter what the pre-race porta potty says! We also did instant reactions to the Boston Marathon, including hot takes on Kipchoge's surprising fade, the wins from Chebet and Obiri, and our theories for why the race played out like it did. Plus some training takeaways from the incredible performance from Emma Bates! She uploads all of her data to Strava, which is automatic HERO STATUS. And that was just the start! Other topics: tapering for the Canyons 100k, reflections on the past and future, a story about friends and dudes, a discussion about the awesomeness of hiking, a breakdown of the science of running and longevity, and questions from listeners on dealing with fatigue and downtime. This one was so much fun! May your takes be hot and your guts be harmonious. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Apr 11, 2023 · 1 hr 21 min
149. The Art and Science of Strides, High Carbohydrate Intake Principles, and Hormonal Tracking!
The most exciting time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the trend of increasing carbohydrate intake during activity, sometimes to extreme levels around 120 grams per hour (480 calories!). We review some of the science of how glycogen levels relate to fatigue processes, along with GI considerations and our own personal experiences. Is it the next frontier of fueling, or a passing fad that will cause more DNFs than breakthroughs? The jury is out, but the carbs are in. We also talked about the principles of strides: what they are, how they work, and why they can lead to astronomical progress. There is a speed beast within all of us! And that speed beast may be farting a lot from all those carbs. Plus, we did something extra special with this episode and answered lots of listener questions! Our podcast audience is so smart, so kind, so awesome. Topics: pre-race nerves, the Lake Sonoma 50 Miler, the physiology of celebrating yourself, the Paris Roubaix bike race, on-course nutrition, cross training doubles, how to approach injuries during training, and considerations for hormonal tracking. There were tons of deep dives into the coolest concepts! And as usual, there were some extra shallow dives as well. Remember: Overnight success stories are years in the making. Let's make those years full of celebration! And sweet dance moves! But you gotta keep the glycogen high in the hips to avoid booty cramps. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Apr 4, 2023 · 1 hr 23 min
148. Zone 2 Training Explained, The Importance of Iron, and Overcoming Fatigue!
The most fun time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on Zone 2, focusing on what it is and how to find it for yourself. If you're anything like us, understanding the metabolic and aerobic physiology will explain so much about training theory, and you'll get way faster in the process. Zone 2 is like Hansel, it's so hot right now. We also talked about some nuances of iron intake, and how appropriate supplementation can CHANGE YOUR LIFE. Did we give a multivitamin containing iron to our baby Leo as a case study? Yes! Is he is ready to take on the baby Tour de France? You betcha! Get the padded baby shorts ready. And you better believe that was just the beginning! Other topics: 3 TV show recommendations, how to encourage adaptation through fatigue, what comes after overload training, a bunch of thoughts on the Gorge trail races, why philosopher Eckhart Tolle is our favorite running coach, some thoughts on artificial intelligence (it makes a great DJ!), the importance of celebrating yourself, and so much more. The episode finishes with a beautiful listener email, so make sure you stick around for that inspiration! As Coach Eckhart says: "On a deeper level you are already complete, and when you realize that, there is a playful, joyous energy behind what you do." Do you think he likes hill strides and pizza? We bet he does! Does he coach babies for bike races? He does now! YOU ALL COMPLETE US. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Mar 28, 2023 · 1 hr 18 min
147. The Science of Overload Training, High-Carb Fueling, and New Caffeine Study!
We brought a jubilant energy to this episode, countering a lack of sleep with a surplus of caffeinated gels! The main training topic was on overload training blocks, which consist consist of volume and/or intensity increases that last anywhere from a couple days to multiple weeks. We review some fascinating studies indicating that overloads may spur breakthroughs, but can also lead to disaster. How do you thread that needle? That's where the science meets art, and where things get REALLY FUN. Rules are meant to be broken! We also discussed how endurance limitations are often just fueling limitations, and why experimenting with higher carbohydrate intakes during activity could change how you think about your physiology. Carbs make champions! And that was just the start of the excitement! Other topics: a new study on caffeine and health, the relationship between running cadence and endurance, the importance of inclusion, how to think about cross-training, the 48-hour world record, bloodwork and the relation with intensity distribution, why you need to dial in your Zone 2 effort, a question on shoe cushioning for long races, a book recommendation, and much more! We also discuss the very real, very scientific evidence for why we are entering the GREATEST TIMELINE in the multiverse. It involves kung fu... and something else we probably shouldn't type in an episode description. You'll see, and we think you'll agree. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Mar 21, 2023 · 1 hr 20 min
146. Barkley Marathons, 4 Training Principles for Peak Performance, and Shoe Reviews!
This episode was full of Spring joy! The main training topic was on 4 key principles as athletes transition from winter training, which apply anytime an athlete is pursuing peak performance. The primary physiological discussions: how increased climbing affects adaptation and fatigue, heat acclimation and fitness benefits, sustainable strength work, and dialing into effort instead of metrics. Lots of fun studies in that discussion, plus plenty of semi-related digressions. You know, the usual! We also broke down the 2023 Barkley Marathons, one of the most bonkers races on the planet! It was a remarkable year, and the takeaways can apply to everyone. And there was so much more fun! Other topics: Kara Goucher's incredible book "The Longest Race," the power of unplanned rest days, balancing rest with putting in the work, shoe reviews from podcast hosts who barely understand shoes, Vitamin D intake, wrong turn calculus, a new study on hopping (we're skeptical), and dealing with trauma and grief. This week's Listener Corner is so touchingly beautiful, and we hope it feels like a warm hug in a complex world. Also, we have a VERY SPECIAL RACE ANNOUNCEMENT. It's like LeBron James and "The Decision," except almost no one cares. Are we also taking our talents to South Beach? Listen and find out. For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Mar 14, 2023 · 1 hr 9 min
145. Joe Gray Interview! G.O.A.T. Mountain Runner on his Life and Journey!
It was such a joy to talk to one of our heroes, Joe Gray! Over his legendary career, Joe has won 22 US National Championships across mountain running, trail running, and cross country. Plus 9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! He is one of the best mountain runners of all time, with a legacy of sustained dominance that might never be matched. We have gotten to know Joe over the years at races, and he always takes his time to uplift young athletes, including us when we started out. He is an inspiration on and off the trails! We talked about what drives him after all of these years and his thoughts about the future of the sport. Joe also talked about the challenges of being a Black athlete in America, starting with a terrible experience when he was a young runner, and how racism affected his journey as a professional athlete. Now, he mentors Black athletes on and off the trails. We discuss how things have changed, and the problems that remain. You may also learn a thing or two about his favorite food, Oreos. He said he "only" likes 7 of the varieties of Oreos, which implies there are more varieties than 7. We learn something new every day! Joe is a running and life BEAST, and we can't wait for you to hear his story! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Mar 7, 2023 · 1 hr 24 min
144. Threshold Training Explained, New Studies on Supershoes, and HILL BEASTS!
This episode got down and dirty with the most fun topics! The main training topic was on a new narrative review study describing the evolution of training theory, and why different approaches have converged on the benefits of lower-intensity training with relatively high doses of moderate threshold running, plus VO2-style speed in small doses. Figure 3 from that study is our love language, and we can't wait to tell you about it! We next discuss the implications of that approach for athletes who run uphills in training, which could change intensity distributions and present a MASSIVE opportunity for fitness improvements. Hills pay the bills. That's a STONE COLD SCIENCE FACT, and we explain how to use the principles in less structured training. And we were just getting started! Other topics, in loose chronological order: follow-ups on relationships and jealousy, reviewing our microbiome testing experience, a wrist-based heart rate discussion, the hydration/fueling option that is BLOWING OUR MINDS, Megan's trip to a sports performance conference, studies on supershoes, a cool analysis of how perception of "talent" changes outcomes independent of actual genetics, and a new study on artificial sweetners. That last topic is Megan's opportunity to roast the heck out of David and his love of gum. Plus lots more! The vibes are strong in this one. We love you all! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap
Feb 28, 2023 · 1 hr 9 min
143. Lauren Fleshman Interview! Best-Selling Author, Great Athlete/Coach, Best Human!
We had SO MUCH FUN talking to Lauren Fleshman! Her book "Good For A Girl" just debuted as a New York Times Bestseller, and we think it's one of the best books ever written. The book is part-memoir, part-manifesto, fearlessly confronting cultural problems in running and beyond, while also being a beautiful and funny reflection on her life journey. In this interview, we talked about how we can change the incentive structures in athletics to put health (and longer-term performance) at the forefront. Topics included youth sports, college and professional coaching, fueling and body image, jealousy and comparison, and so much more! Then we left the pages of the book to talk about her personal journey with mental health and identity. We simultaneously had life-affirming chills run down our spines as Lauren described how she has explored her true self, and how athletics and fueling played a role in that process. Lauren is a superstar. We think you'll finish this interview feeling inspired to step up to the start line of something big and scary. LET'S DO THIS! For a weekly bonus episode (and bi-weekly newsletter), make sure you're subscribed to our Patreon. We love you all! WOOHOO! Support the podcast: patreon.com/swap Try Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/swap