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In Moderation

Rob Lapham, Liam Layton

Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.

Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.

Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.

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Yesterday · 35 min
Rocky XVI - Peaches Gets Creamed
If you’ve ever argued with friends about “how many sequels” a franchise really has, you already know the problem: counting is easy, defining is hard. We start with movie math and quickly realize the only way to make the question interesting is to set rules. No reboots, no recasts that reset the timeline, and no loosely connected “brand” entries. We’re chasing direct sequels with continuity, where one story actually leads into the next. That sends us through the sequel jungle: the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a sheer volume benchmark, Fast and Furious as the forever engine of family, Rocky as proof you can stretch a simple premise for years, and Land Before Time as the surprising heavyweight in pure sequel count. We also hit a fun piece of film trivia that genuinely surprised us, connecting a never made Total Recall sequel to the eventual creation of Minority Report. If you like franchise debates, narrative continuity, and pop culture rabbit holes, this one stays busy. Then the tone shifts in a way that feels very “us”: we talk about how the podcast has evolved from more structured fitness and nutrition into something that also makes room for jokes, stories, and community. The serious takeaway is real though: sustainable weight loss and a healthy lifestyle get harder when your identity becomes nothing but the goal. We get into why hobbies, creative outlets, and low pressure “friend slop” co-op games can keep you sane and consistent. Subscribe for more, share this with the friend who always wins the sequel argument, and leave a review with your pick for the longest true sequel series. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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August 27 · 57 min
Emotional Eating Explained
I tried recreating my old McDonald’s order from my heaviest days and the number was wild: roughly 5,000 calories in what used to feel like a “normal” day of eating. But the most important part wasn’t the calorie math or the fast food breakdown. It was the reason I always bought two of everything: a real, irrational fear that I’d run out of food and the comfort would end. That’s emotional eating in plain English, and we pull the thread on how routines, familiarity, and anxiety can drive overeating more than taste ever does. From there we pivot into nutrition misinformation and food marketing, because the same brain that wants certainty also wants simple rules. We talk about influencer health claims, undisclosed partnerships, and why audiences eventually get tired of confident nonsense. We also break down misleading label language like “non-GMO turkey” and “antibiotic-free” messaging that sounds meaningful while saying almost nothing. Then we shout out clever examples of packaging makeovers that prove how easy it is to make the same product look “clean” or “healthy” with nothing but design and wording. We keep it grounded with budget-friendly healthy eating advice too: you don’t need premium stores or overpriced organic hype to eat well, hit protein goals, or support weight loss. Along the way, we take a few hilarious detours into mascot lore, measurement chaos, and other pop culture oddities that somehow make the media literacy lesson stick. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves a good label rant, and leave a review. What’s the most misleading “healthy” claim you’ve seen on a package? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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August 20 · 25 min
This Is Not The Greatest Podcast In The World, This Is Just A Tribute
Last week’s show was “the greatest podcasting that’s ever been,” and you definitely missed it, so we decided to do the only reasonable thing: make a tribute and then immediately derail it. What starts as a joke about exclusivity turns into a full-on philosophy of “equal inopportunity” where nobody gets in, everyone is equally rejected, and reclusivity becomes a lifestyle choice we pretend is a movement. From there we bounce through the weird ways pop culture rewires our brains, including the CSI effect and the fantasy that you can always “zoom and enhance” your way to the truth. We take that same skepticism and point it at modern marketing with a fake pharmaceutical ad for Reclexa, a medication that’s somehow nothing but side effects and still sounds tempting when you’re tired, overstimulated, and ready to disappear for a weekend. We also step out of the bit long enough to talk honestly about audience trust and the pressure of always being serious online. The messages you send us matter, and we don’t take them lightly, but we’re also learning that humor can be part of the medicine when life feels heavy. Then we wrap it all in fandom chaos: Star Trek doors, angry Klingon letters, and a DeLorean that gets mistaken for basically every other universe at once. If you like comedy podcasts, sharp satire, and conversations that accidentally stumble into real mental health and burnout truths, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a laugh, and leave a review telling us which fandom you’ve offended by accident. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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July 30 · 55 min
Consistency Beats Perfect
A DeLorean window that opens like a prison food slot somehow turns into one of the most honest conversations we’ve had about sustainable weight loss, running, and what actually keeps you going when motivation disappears. We’re joined by Tracy, one of Mike’s students, who shares how she’s down around 70 pounds, recently got certified as a running coach, and is training for a half marathon after dealing with serious heart issues. The headline isn’t “a perfect plan.” It’s the decision to keep showing up even when the day isn’t perfect. We talk through the mindset shift that changes everything: treating progress like a long timeline instead of a daily pass/fail test. Tracy breaks down what used to derail her, how consistency replaced the need to be flawless, and why finding movement you genuinely enjoy matters more than forcing workouts you hate. We also get into practical behavior change like starting with walking, using Couch to 5K, stacking small wins, and keeping favorite foods in moderation instead of swinging between restriction and burnout. Then we zoom out to the bigger system: why the online fitness world feels so angry, how misinformation spreads through fear, and why humor can help you keep perspective without getting sucked into the chaos. Finally, we come back to community and coaching, including the reality that progress sometimes requires a symbolic “fuck you” to old expectations and to the people who benefit from you staying the same. If you liked this one, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs a steadier approach, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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July 23 · 59 min
Poop Lettuce And Shopping For A DeLorean
People are getting sick, the internet is panicking, and somehow we end up arguing about whether “poop lettuce” can put out a fire. We start with the Cyclospora outbreak chatter and the uncomfortable truth about food safety: outbreaks are real, tracing contamination is slow, and a single headline like “false positive” doesn’t magically erase risk. If you care about public health, FDA oversight, supply chains, and why fast-moving stories get distorted online, you’ll feel the tension immediately. Then we go after a different kind of contamination: viral nutrition misinformation. You’ve seen the clips, someone sets a snack on fire, soaks bread under a faucet, or leaves an ice cream sandwich out to “prove” it doesn’t melt and suddenly the comments declare the food “not real.” We break down why those stunts are not experiments, what basic food chemistry actually explains, and how the algorithm rewards fear more than it rewards nuance. That leads us straight into supplement culture, sponsor spam, and the way overpriced programs can sell extreme calorie restriction as a miracle product. Just when things get serious, our DeLorean obsession takes the wheel. Listener photos kick off a long detour into DeLorean DMC-12 history, crash tests, collector pricing, and a harsh reality check about cup holders and that tiny sliding window. We even wander into AI “actresses,” AI slop, and the weird future where everything looks convincing until you ask one follow-up question. If you like smart comedy, media literacy, and fitness-adjacent skepticism with real stakes, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who falls for viral food clips, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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July 16 · 50 min
How To Eat More Beans Without Hating It
Beans are cheap, filling, and weirdly controversial, and that’s exactly why we wanted bean.supporter on the show. She’s a bean recipe developer who’s built a whole online identity around getting more people to eat legumes, not by selling perfection, but by telling the truth about what works. We talk about how beans helped her through real-life health issues, why a 30-day only-beans challenge sparked her creativity, and what she learned from watching the internet react to fiber like it’s a horror movie. We get into the practical nutrition too: fiber and gut health, why many people feel better when they finally eat enough beans, and what a beans-only approach still misses from a nutrition standpoint (hello, vitamin B12 and fat-soluble vitamins). Then we go deep on recipes, including the difference between “this is a healthier dessert” and “this tastes exactly like cookie dough” and why that distinction matters if you want sustainable eating habits. You’ll also hear our takes on bean desserts that genuinely deliver, like chocolate bean cake and black bean brownies, plus savory staples that keep life simple. Finally, we zoom out to bean culture: Berkeley bean-ups in the park, the canned vs dried beans debate, and why premium beans can taste completely different from the mushy stuff that turned you off years ago. If you want budget-friendly protein, high-fiber meal ideas, and a realistic way to eat more plant-based foods without getting preached at, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a bean skeptic, and leave a review with your most-used bean and the dish you swear by. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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July 9 · 10 min
Alone In My Childhood Bedroom
You ever hit that point where you don’t want productivity, progress, or another plan you just want sleep? We’re in that place tonight, and we say the quiet parts out loud: the exhaustion after an emotional week, the loneliness that shows up when family leaves, and the weird way your brain starts rummaging through childhood memories like it’s searching for proof you used to feel safe. We walk through what it’s like to end up back where you started, right down to remembering a loft bed, makeshift forts, an old TV under the frame, and the small comforts that made growing up feel manageable. From there, the conversation turns toward mental health, social anxiety disorder, and why posting on social media (and TikTok live streaming in particular) can be both a lifeline and a trap. Helping people is real, but so is the sting of feeling like you’re still mostly talking to yourself. Then grief enters the room. We talk about the kind of loss that changes a house forever, the images that don’t leave you, and the complicated peace that comes with having no regrets about showing up for your family. Along the way we land on something simple and surprisingly hard: letting your mind wander without a screen, remembering tiny details like a popcorn ceiling, and choosing authenticity over performance. If you’ve been wrestling with loneliness, burnout, grief, or the pressure to look “fine” online, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share it with someone who needs a quiet hand on their shoulder, and leave a review then tell us: what memory do you return to when life gets heavy? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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July 2 · 58 min
Laughing At Food Fear
Fear sells faster than facts, and nutrition misinformation knows it. We start this one in near-whisper mode and immediately slide into the kind of internet chaos that makes health grifters thrive: vague “toxic ingredient” warnings, anxiety-driven shopping, and the constant hunt for something to blame. We talk about why that fear-based marketing works so well, how it shows up in fitness influencer culture, and the difference between someone showing you a genuinely useful product versus someone trying to scare you into a supplement or “detox” solution. From there we pivot into the stuff that actually helps real people: movement that feels like play and food choices that don’t require a personality transplant. Trampoline parks turn into accidental full-body workouts, walking pads turn hangouts into easy steps, and we compare walkable cities like New York with the car-first reality of Dallas. Yes, we also take a long look at the Dallas Mixmaster and ask who decided that “one more lane” was a plan. We close by pulling the stress out of eating. Red 40, aspartame, tofu, Impossible meat, seed oils, and the rest don’t need to be a daily panic spiral. Our go-to framework stays simple: do you like it, can you afford it, does it fit your goals? Plus we trade the recipes we actually repeat, including low-effort snacks like dates with peanut butter and dark chocolate and fast cottage cheese toast ideas. If you laughed, learned, or felt your shoulders drop a bit, subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a quick review. What’s the most ridiculous food fear you’ve heard lately? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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June 25 · 38 min
I Refuse To Be A Fitness Influencer
The fitness internet is getting louder, meaner, and weirder, and it’s exhausting. Today Mike flies solo and says the quiet part out loud: platforms don’t reward the most helpful coach, they reward the most shareable fear. If your feed is full of seed oil panic, sunscreen paranoia, “miracle” peptides, and comment-section cruelty, you’re not imagining the shift. We talk through what that does to real people trying to lose weight or get in shape, especially beginners who already feel exposed. Mike breaks down why fitness is one of the only “learning” spaces where newcomers get mocked for not already being good, and why that ugliness rarely shows up the same way in real life. The fix is not another hack. It’s community, context, and a return to human-to-human communication. So we get practical and concrete: Third Space is evolving into more in-person connection, including walks, runs, hikes, and a sanctioned 5K planned for mid-November around World Kindness Day. Mike also shares a big long-term vision: building a physical gym location targeted for early 2027, plus “Project Lifeboat,” a push to move people off fragile algorithms and into more stable resources like groups and newsletters. Along the way, he shares a run-club story, how to test your baseline safely, and why “week one shouldn’t look very different from week zero.” If you’re tired of the noise but still want real progress, hit play, subscribe, and share this with someone who needs a kinder path. After you listen, leave a review and tell us: what would help you feel more supported in your health journey? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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June 18 · 1 hr 4 min
You Will Not Outsmart Your Diet With More Gym Time
You can train hard, sweat daily, and still feel stuck, and the frustrating part is you might be doing everything “right” except the one lever that moves the fastest: nutrition. We sit down with Jackson Jen, tech builder and entrepreneur (yes, including Cameo), to unpack the turning point that took him from “lifting with no results” to visible abs in months, without changing the workout plan. The conversation stays grounded in the stuff that actually works: calorie tracking, protein targets, consistency, and the unsexy truth behind body recomposition and sustainable weight loss. Then we get into the question everyone keeps asking: will AI replace fitness coaching? Our take is simple. Reminders are easy. Accountability is hard. We break down why an AI bot that texts “log your food” gets ignored, while a real coach, or even something that feels genuinely social, changes behavior. If you’ve ever started strong and drifted after two weeks, this is the segment that explains why, and what to build instead: feedback loops, real check-ins, and systems that scale without turning coaching into chaos. Along the way we also hit caffeine and pre-workout habits, the difference between energy and dependency, and yes, we spiral into classic Inmoderation territory with sardines on camera, card magic, and a border story that sounds like a sketch. If you want practical fitness coaching insights with zero fake perfection, hit play, subscribe, share the episode with a friend who’s “doing everything,” and leave a review with your hottest take: what keeps you accountable when motivation dies? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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June 11 · 46 min
We Somehow Turn A Vasectomy Into Duct Tape DeLoreans
A vasectomy is supposed to be simple. So why does it sometimes turn into ice packs, nausea, and that unmistakable “my body is rejecting this” feeling? We get candid about what the snip can feel like in real life, including the vasovagal reaction some people get with blood, needles, and certain sensations. It’s funny, but it’s also practical: what to expect, what’s normal, and why it can still be 100% worth it even if you hated the experience. From there we chase the thread into nitrous oxide laughing gas, how it went from party trick to legit medical and dental sedation, and why the internet is obsessed with anything that promises fast relief. That sets up a bigger conversation about viral health hacks like “grounding” by standing on Epsom salt or sea salt. We’re all for rituals that feel good, but we break down the moment a soothing habit turns into a sweeping claim about inflammation, serotonin, cortisol, and “toxins” that’s designed to trigger fear and engagement. Then the episode does what we do best: it swerves into nostalgia and culture, including The Red Green Show, duct tape inventions, and yes, DeLoreans. Somehow that leads to duels, mutual combat laws, and a surprisingly grim detour through American history, including Andrew Jackson, the Trail of Tears, and how myths can hide real harm. We cap it off with Alberta separatism talk and a running side quest for bean and pasta sponsors. If you like smart comedy that still calls out bad ideas, hit play, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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June 4 · 42 min
Autism And Dating Without The Script
“Meh” can be the most honest answer you give all week, and we start there, with a messy check in that turns into a surprisingly practical talk about mental health. We unpack why you cannot eliminate grief, stress, or depression, and why the real win is shortening the turnaround time, building habits that help you come back faster, and remembering to text the people you love before things get heavy. From that foundation, we shift into neurodivergence and autism spectrum reality without the tired stereotypes. We talk about how autism can look invisible until you know what to look for, how masking affects relationships, and why labels and terminology keep changing as research and culture evolve. The bigger point is representation and self understanding: if you have ever suspected you might be autistic or neurodivergent, you are not alone, and you are not “less,” you are wired differently. Then we tackle dating with that lens, including demisexuality and why swipe first hookup culture can be a terrible fit for people who need emotional safety before attraction shows up. We get into what makes dating apps exhausting, how sensory overload and shallow profiles get in the way, and what it might look like to meet people in ways that actually support real connection. Along the way, we somehow detour through VR comfort settings, iPhone vs Android texting, DeLorean podcast bragging rights, and the ongoing hunt for a bean sponsor. Subscribe for more honest conversations, share this with a friend who needs a check in, and leave a rating or review so more people can find the show. What topic do you want us to go deep on next? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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May 28 · 58 min
Coffee Nerds Unite
Ring lights make us irrationally angry, and somehow that turns into a full-blown deep dive on coffee science, coffee myths, and why the internet can’t stop being weird about both. We’re joined by Han (Son Of Han Coffee), and what starts as a sponsor shout-out quickly becomes the kind of practical coffee talk we wish more people had: how roast level changes flavor, why “I hate coffee” often means “I’ve only had burnt dark roast,” and what actually makes a bag of beans worth the price. We get into the real-life upgrades that matter for better coffee at home: buying whole bean coffee instead of pre-ground, grinding fresh to protect aroma, and choosing a brew method you’ll actually stick with. Pour over, French press, drip, espresso, siphon coffee makers that look like a chemistry set, even the water temperature you use all change extraction and flavor. We also unpack the myths that keep spreading, including “coffee dehydrates you” (it doesn’t for most people), what polyphenols might have to do with coffee benefits, and why unfiltered coffee can include diterpenes that may affect LDL cholesterol for some folks. Then, because we can’t help ourselves, we detour into decaf methods like Swiss Water Process and CO2 decaf, tea vs tisanes, DeLorean time-travel bits, and the gym community buying horse electrolytes because the bucket is cheap. If you like smart tangents, honest takes, and actionable coffee advice without the snob act, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a fellow coffee nerd, and leave a review with your go-to brew method. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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May 21 · 58 min
Stop Trying To Be Liked And Start Being Yourself
We start with a dumb question that turns into a real one: what happens when you stop trying to be impressive and just become yourself, fully and loudly? Between the bean jokes, the made-up “wordologist” vocabulary, and a quick detour through conspiracies, our guest Gyrodactyl (Garrett) lays out a simple personal development framework that actually sticks: if something about you bothers you, either change it or learn to love it. That sounds harsh until you realize it is also freeing, because it pulls you out of endless self-hate loops and into action. From there, the conversation gets honest about self-acceptance in the age of social media filters, “perfect” bodies, and constant comparison. We talk relationships and why the wrong partner can quietly kill your creativity, while the right partner makes you feel safe enough to be weird, playful, and ambitious. That shift from performing to belonging is a mental health upgrade most people underestimate. Then we go deeper on emotions. We push back on toxic positivity, make room for grief, and argue about sadness versus anger as motivation. What helps when you feel stuck is not a magic quote, it is basics you can control: sunlight, food, water, movement, and human connection, plus dropping rigid expectations and refusing to shame-spiral after you miss a step. If you like funny chaos with real takeaways on happiness, authenticity, emotional regulation, and relationships, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review with the mantra you want to live by next. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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May 14 · 53 min
The Long Game
A 155-pound weight loss doesn’t happen because you “finally got disciplined.” It happens when you build a system you can live with on your worst Tuesday, not your best Monday. We sit down with our friend Nolan Taylor (briefly rebranded as Nolan DeLorean) to talk through the unglamorous, repeatable steps that took him from nearly 400 pounds to the low 200s and into a new phase of chasing performance and body fat percentage goals. Nolan breaks down the real timeline: years of posting workouts and “going through the motions,” then a hard pivot on February 3, 2022 when he publicly committed to closing his Apple Watch rings every day. From there it’s the fundamentals done consistently: calorie tracking with MyFitnessPal, better hydration, taking sleep seriously, and building a daily running habit that became his outlet when life got heavy. We talk about what actually makes habits stick, why extreme fitness culture sells insecurity, and how small food swaps and moderation can beat any all-or-nothing plan. The most important thread is mindset. We get into emotional eating, shame loops, therapy, and why “calories in, calories out” might be biologically true while still being emotionally incomplete. If the scale number wrecks your headspace, we also share better ways to measure progress: trends over time, energy, clothes fit, strength PRs, and the ability to do more without hating the process. If you want sustainable weight loss, a healthier relationship with food, and a plan that doesn’t require misery, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a nudge, and leave a review with the one daily “brick” you’re putting down this week. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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May 7 · 37 min
Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Please Come On The Podcast
A ring light complaint turns into a surprisingly honest question: are people listening to podcasts for the ideas, or watching for the performance? We kick things off by messing with each other about audio vs YouTube, then swap real podcast recommendations, from Conan-style comedy interviews to darker history shows that dig into what you never learned in school. It’s light, it’s unserious, and it’s exactly how a hangout conversation should feel right before it isn’t. The mood shifts hard when we get into school shootings and the brutal gap between the United States and the rest of the world. We talk numbers, the weird way headlines compete for attention, and what it does to a culture when tragedy becomes routine. From there, we do what our brains always do when reality feels stuck: we try to “solve” it with time travel. Cue Superman physics, Doctor Who logic, and a full commitment to the DeLorean time machine bit, including the classic rule about not meeting your younger self and the only practical time-travel advice anyone ever gives: invest early. Then we spiral into public health anxiety with cruise ship hantavirus chatter, quarantine questions, and the uneasy feeling of living in a world where outbreak response is political. To cleanse the palate, we debate internet pedantry, misinformation vs harmless mistakes, and the “technically berries” rabbit hole that somehow becomes a plan to book a botanist and bait Neil deGrasse Tyson into talking fruit classification before we hit him with DeLoreans. If you like comedy podcasts that stumble into real issues, science literacy, and cultural commentary, this one gets weird in the best way. Subscribe for more, share the episode with a friend who loves a good tangent, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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April 30 · 37 min
The Drug League
One random bump on your body can turn into a full mental spiral, and we start right there: the weird mix of health anxiety, gallows humor, and the reality that American healthcare costs can feel like a coin flip. When the “best plan” is comparing lumps and hoping you don’t need a GoFundMe for medical bills, it says a lot about the system and about what we’ve normalized. We also poke at how politics has gotten so surreal that you can say almost anything and it sounds plausible, which sets the tone for where the conversation goes next. Then we pitch our proudest terrible idea: an “open division” for sports. Not “open” like a little more lenient, but open like anything goes, including performance enhancing drugs, mystery substances, and rulebook loopholes that turn every game into a chaotic experiment. The goal isn’t better competition, it’s sports entertainment cranked to absurdity, with the audience potentially knowing what’s in the “mystery bag” before the players do. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when spectacle beats fairness, we build the whole ridiculous framework. We bring it back to real life with two modern obsessions: lawsuit culture and food fear. “Getting sued” isn’t proof, and long ingredient lists aren’t automatically a sign of toxic food. We talk FDA labeling rules, why composite products look scary on paper, and how nutrition myths spread when chemical names trigger panic. And yes, we close with a traumatic grocery-store saga: Walden Farms zero calorie peanut butter, plus smarter low-calorie alternatives and simple portion-control tips that actually work. Subscribe for more, share this with the friend who reads every label, and leave a review if you want us to keep building the Drug League. What sport should be first, and what’s the one “healthy” product that betrayed you? Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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April 23 · 51 min
What If Masculinity Looked Like Care
The internet can watch two people eat the same thing and hand out two completely different verdicts. One gets “icon” and “girl dinner.” The other gets called disgusting, lazy, and doomed. We start there, with the weird psychology of viral eating content, the shame spiral it can trigger, and why a donut and matcha can somehow become a public trial when the person holding it is overweight. Then we bring on Joey T Fitness (Joe Douglas), a creator who stitches misinformation for a living and still refuses to turn health into a purity contest. We talk seed oils, Red 40, and the endless ingredient panic that thrives on simple villains. Joey explains why nuance matters in nutrition advice, how moderation gets drowned out by absolutist takes, and why “remove one thing and you’re healthy” is a trap that keeps people stuck. We also go deeper than food. Joey shares how he nearly fell into red pill culture when he started chasing fitness, what pulled him out, and what masculinity means to him now: self-control, service, and protecting the people you love. We end with the future problem nobody is ready for, AI-edited bodies and AI-generated fitness coaches, plus how to find credible, ethical help online. If you got value from this, subscribe, share it with a friend who’s stuck in diet fear, and leave a review so more people can find the sane side of fitness. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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April 16 · 38 min
Mike Gives You A Plan?!
I hit record while sick, sleep-deprived, and filling in solo, and it turned into the most honest lesson I’ve learned about sustainable weight loss and mental health: slowing down is not the same as stopping. A ruptured eardrum forced me to lower my usual walking pad pace, and that tiny choice became proof of growth. Years ago I would have called that “giving up” and punished myself harder. Today it’s just smart training, realistic habit building, and self-respect. We also sit with grief. I read a message from Rob about losing someone and the hole it leaves behind, then talk about how you do not erase pain, you grow around it. That same idea applies to fitness and body change: progress is not a straight line, and a break can be part of the plan when your body is sending signals you should actually listen to. I share a story about an injury that kept me out of the gym, and how the emotion wasn’t rage, it was sadness because I finally had a routine that was for me, not against me. From there we get practical. I explain how to tell the difference between needing rest and simply not wanting to do the work, plus one of my best consistency rules: you can skip the gym, but you have to go to the gym to skip it. Then we zoom out to long-term health, aging, mobility, and why micro commitments and small wins rebuild belief when you feel stuck. If you want my Micro Commitments lesson for free, DM me “micro.” Subscribe, share this with someone who’s being too hard on themselves, and leave a review with the smallest “next step” you’re taking this week. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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April 9 · 17 min
Rob Is Left On His Own, Again
Recording alone wasn’t the plan, but it turned into a blunt, honest talk about the one thing that explains almost every skill I’ve picked up: repetition. If you’ve ever watched someone play guitar, code smoothly, build things with their hands, or look “naturally good” outdoors and thought you were missing some secret, I lay out what it actually looks like from the inside. It’s awkward reps, slow progress, and the willingness to fail repeatedly without letting that failure turn into a story about who you are. I use learning guitar as the clearest example of how the brain builds coordination, timing, and accuracy only through practice, not motivation and not endless YouTube tutorials. From there I zoom out to other real-world skills like construction and programming, where tiny mistakes can wreck your output but also teach you faster than perfection ever will. We also hit a practical nutrition topic people ask us about a lot: sweeteners. Sugar, artificial sweeteners, and “natural” alternatives aren’t magic or poison by default, and the most reliable answer is still moderation and avoiding overconsumption. The back half gets more personal: why I’d rather do live streams than answer DMs, how loneliness shapes my preference for real-time conversation, and what I’m trying to build on Twitch. I also share a brief update about my dad, as much as I’m comfortable saying publicly. If you like honest talk, practical mindset shifts, and a little chaos, subscribe, share this with a friend who’s learning something hard, and leave a review with the skill you’re practicing right now. Support the show You can find us on social media here: Rob Tiktok Rob Instagram Liam Tiktok Liam Instagram
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