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Ben on OKRs is a practical, real-world (and FUN) podcast hosted by Ben Lamorte, the founder of OKRs.com. Ben wrote The OKRs Field Book in 2022, the first book dedicated to the field of OKRs coaching. In fact, it's been rumored that Ben is the most experienced OKR coach on the planet.

Ben shares insights from mentoring 50+ OKR coaches and working with 300+ organizations to help leaders turn OKRs into a powerful execution system to drive focus, alignment, and bottom-line results.

This podcast is designed for:

  • Executives and senior leaders

  • Strategy and operations professionals

  • HR and transformation leaders

  • Agile coaches looking to broaden their skill set

  • Managers responsible for execution and alignment

  • Anyone implementing or improving OKRs

You’ll learn:

  • Why OKRs fail and what to do about that

  • How to leverage AI to 10x OKR execution

  • How to write meaningful, outcome-driven OKRs

  • How to align teams around strategy

  • How to run effective OKR cycles

  • How to turn OKRs into a sustainable execution system

Contact: Ben@OKRs.com

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  • Avg 14 min
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  • #31
    March 31 · 9 min

    How to Fail with OKRs #1: Start with KPIs

    How to Fail with OKRs: Start with a List of KPIs One of the fastest ways to mess up your OKRs program is to start with a list of KPIs and then try to decide which ones should become Key Results. It sounds logical. And many smart teams (including me in my early days!) can fall into this trap. This episode explains why starting with KPIs can deraily your OKRs program and how the right way is to start with values and critical thinking rather than a list of metrics. Early in my own OKR journey, I made this exact same mistake! I began sessions by showing teams standard industry KPIs and asking them to choose which ones should be their Key Results. I thought I was adding value, but in reality, I was limiting their thinking. This episode introduces the distinction between alternative-focused thinking and value-focused thinking and shows how this concept applies directly to drafting OKRs. To make this practical I share a simple example from everyday life involving how we choose something as ordinary as salad dressing. Do we begin with the available options or do we begin with what really matters to us You will learn how starting from existing metrics can trap teams into maintaining what they already measure instead of improving what truly matters. I describe two clear warning signs that your OKR drafting process may be broken and driven by alternative thinking rather than value driven clarity. I also share a real coaching example with a marketing team that illustrates the shift from focusing on existing email metrics to identifying what truly mattered improving the return on investment of major marketing events. By stepping back from the list of available metrics the team realized they needed to establish a new baseline measure rather than rely on existing dashboards. This led to a more meaningful and strategically aligned Key Result. The core message is simple. KPIs are useful but they should not drive your OKRs. OKRs should begin with vision priorities and values then identify the right Key Results to measure progress. If you want your OKRs to drive real improvement rather than simply track activity this episode will help you rethink how you begin. As always, contact me via Ben@OKRs.com or post a comment here.

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  • #30
    March 27 · 8 min

    From Agile to Aligned: CareerBuilder’s OKR Shift (Real OKR Implementations #4)

    From Agile to Aligned: CareerBuilder’s OKR Shift CareerBuilder was already Agile. Teams were delivering. Work was moving. So why introduce OKRs? Part 4 of this Real OKR Implementations explores how organizations actually deploy OKRs in practice. Previous episodes showed how TaxSlayer built accountability through scoring and cadence, how GoNoodle launched OKRs in just 18 days, and how Zalando scaled OKRs by developing in-house experts. This episode explores a different question: What happens when a high functioning Agile organization uses OKRs to strengthen alignment and shift conversations from execution to impact? CareerBuilder is one of the largest online job platforms in the United States and has served 24 million monthly visitors and worked with 92 percent of the Fortune 1000. Andy Krupit Manager of Agile Development shares how the company introduced OKRs to sharpen priorities improve cross team alignment and create real accountability. CareerBuilder adopted OKRs for three reasons. Greater focus on what matters most. Better alignment across teams. And accountability through what Andy described as positive tension from the business. Rather than rolling OKRs out across the organization at once CareerBuilder started at the team level. Through workshops drafting sessions alignment checks and refinement conversations teams shifted from tracking tasks to measuring outcomes. One of the biggest breakthroughs came from asking why. Using the five why technique teams pushed past activity and into strategic intent. They also learned a key lesson. Fewer objectives improve clarity and execution. The result was cultural. Teams discovered shared objectives and began collaborating in new ways. If you are leading OKR implementation, this episode offers practical lessons from a real world journey. As always, post a comment with questions, or better yet: email Ben@OKRs.com to get your OKRs 1:1 consult!

  • #17
    March 25 · 7 min

    How to Implement Team Level OKRs Successfully (Workshop 4 of 4)

    How to optimize team-level OKR workshops. Avoid the common pitfalls that can inadvertently increase silo effects and learn how to embed alignment into all aspects of your OKRs program. Ben walks you through how to get your teams going on OKRs by starting with a top-level OKR presentation as context along with OKR theory. Here's a sample agenda: Here is a sample agenda that we used with one of our clients: 8:00–9:00 am: Introductions, CEO briefing on OKRs journey 9:00–10:00 am: OKRs theory/refresher and review of top-level OKRs 10:00–11:00 am: Draft team-level OKRs 11:00–12:00 pm: Report backs and idea sharing 12:00–1:00 pm: Lunch 1:00–2:00 pm: Refine OKRs, participants interact outside their team to align on dependencies 2:00–2:45 pm: Report backs 2:45-3:00 pm: Next steps and key takeaways Takeaways for Team-Level Workshops Schedule team-level workshops after defining OKRs teams Include members from multiple functional teams to foster cross-functional alignment Begin with an overview of top-level OKRs to create context Please comment or post questions in this post or even better, request a free 1:1 consult with Ben via Ben@OKRs Thanks for listening!

  • #29
    March 23 · 13 min

    TaxSlayer’s OKR Implementation: From SMART Goals to Results (Real OKR Implementation #3)

    TaxSlayer’s OKR Implementation: From SMART Goals to Results Most companies set annual goals. Very few build a system that actually drives measurable results. In this episode, Ben breaks down how TaxSlayer, a tax preparation and software company serving millions of customers, moved beyond traditional SMART goals and implemented OKRs to create real accountability, alignment, and execution discipline. Like many organizations, TaxSlayer relied on annual goal-setting. But leadership realized that yearly planning alone wasn’t enough to create urgency or sustained focus. They needed a framework that connected strategy to execution and forced better conversations about what success truly meant. Enter OKRs! Devin Sherman, Director of Corporate Planning, introduced OKRs after researching the model and seeing how companies like Google and Intel used it to drive performance. What followed was a structured rollout starting at the corporate and division levels, supported by workshops, executive preparation, and disciplined scoring. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why SMART goals weren’t enough — and what OKRs changed How upfront scoring “rocked their world” and elevated accountability The breakthrough moment in distinguishing tasks from true Key Results How consistent check-ins turned OKRs into a management system Lessons learned about alignment and cross-functional execution Why OKRs must evolve beyond activity tracking to drive real impact One of the biggest realizations? They had been “run over by tasks and actions” instead of focusing on measurable outcomes. OKRs changed that, not just by clarifying goals, but also by reshaping how leaders managed execution. If you’re implementing OKRs or trying to strengthen execution discipline in a growing organization, this episode offers practical insights from a real case study. To learn more about strengthening your OKR program, including the OKRs Expert Workshop and 2-Cycle Deployment model, take a look at visit OKRs.com. As always, for a 1:1 OKR consult send a note to me via Ben@OKRs.com

  • #26
    March 20 · 10 min

    How Smart Teams Make OKRs Work: 5 Proven Practices

    OK, so the last episode was a big "negative" as we explored why even smart, capable teams struggle with OKRs. Today, let's shift the focus to what high-performing teams actually do differently to make OKRs work in the real world. You’ll learn how successful teams stay relentlessly focused on outcomes instead of activity start small and build capability before scaling keep OKRs alive through a consistent execution rhythm run structured check-ins do fewer things, but do them well. OKRs are simple, but they require discipline. This episode breaks down the execution patterns that turn OKRs from a planning exercise into a real system for driving focus, alignment, and measurable progress. For more, check us out www.okrs.com Thanks for listening!

  • #25
    March 17 · 16 min

    Why Smart Teams Still Fail with OKRs: 7 Common Pitfalls

    OK, thought this would be 5 reasons, but we ended up adding 2 more in the end! Find out what those other two are by listening to this episode. Here are the "TOP 5"... 1. Turning Key Results into a To-Do List The most common failure mode is incredibly human. Teams turn key results into a checklist: Launch feature Hire two engineers Run campaign Build dashboard Great work "to do" but none reflect outcomes/KRs. 2. Rolling Out OKRs Too Fast This is one of the biggest killers of OKR programs. A leadership team runs OKRs successfully, then decides: “Let’s deploy OKRs everywhere....Now!” 3. “Set It and Forget It” Arguably the most common reason why OKRs projects fail. Teams get excited after publishing OKRs (like New year's resolutions) and then just go back to work. Near the middle or end of the OKR cycle, people are like "Oh, yeah we should look at our OKRs..." 4. No Standard Check-In Cadence Even teams that care about OKRs often lack a structured rhythm. Check-ins are: Inconsistent Unstructured Status-heavy Or skipped entirely Without a set cadence, your OKRs program is close to worthless. 5. Setting Too Many OKRs Ambitious teams often believe more goals mean more drive. In reality, more goals dilute execution. Common pattern: Too many objectives Too many key results Everything is a priority! When everything matters, nothing moves. The highest-performing teams consistently do fewer things, but do them well. For more, check us out at www.okrs.com Thanks for listening!

  • #24
    March 16 · 15 min

    The 9 Essential Roles in a Successful OKR Program

    Ben introduces the 9 roles you'll need to launch and sustain your OKRs program. OK, so you might not need an EXTERNAL OKRs COACH, but Ben is going to push for that and not just because that's his job! It's super-valuable to get an outside perspective from someone with deep experience both 1) launching OKRs, 2) improving OKRs, and even 3) training internal OKR coaches so you can sustain your OKRs program without external support. Here are the 9 roles along with when you'll need to identify a person to fill each: In addition to "external coach" as optional, some of the other roles may not be required. For example, if you're launching top-level OKRs only, you don't need "TEAM LEAD"). If you don't have a performance management or review system in place yet, then you also don't need an "HR Lead") For more on OKRs, check out our site: www.okrs.com Best of luck filling those roles! Thanks for listening!

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  • #23
    March 13 · 12 min

    6 Mantras for OKR Success That Drive Focus and Execution

    Ben covers the 5 things you must keep in mind to succeed with OKRs. And he even gets into the 6th mantra which was added recently, after his OKRs book came out in 2022. You'll learn how to leverage these 5 mantras to make your OKR program a success: 1.Less is more. Define a small set of OKRs. 2.Crawl-walk-run. Deploy OKRs piecemeal. Scale it then nail it. (2 cycles) 3.Outcomes, not output. Write key results that mostly reflect outcomes (results) rather than output (amount of work delivered). 4.OKRs are not everything. Write OKRs that reflect the most important areas to make measurable progress. Distinguish OKRs from tasks and health metrics. 5.The only way to learn OKRs is to do OKRs. Allocate most of an OKRs project to drafting, refining and reflecting on OKRs rather than discussing theory. 6.Embed Alignment. Listen in to learn more about Ben's latest mantra! For more info check out www.okrs.com Thanks for listening and see you next time!

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  • #22
    March 12 · 10 min

    Reflect and Reset: How to Strengthen Your Goal Setting Muscle (OKRs Cycle 3 of 3)

    At the end of your OKR cycle, it's time to "reflect and reset." Many skip this step. Others do a retrospective that just looks back. You'll want to document your learnings and use them to inform your OKRs for the upcoming next cycle. When you apply learnings to make your next set of OKRs better, you are building your GOAL SETTING MUSCLE. This is Ben's favorite part of the coaching program since this is where he holds your KR Champions accountable. Here is the sample KR that Ben walks you through in this episode along with the 3 columns you'll need to include in your OKR Tracker (1-Final Score, 2-Learning, and 3-Keep/Modify/Remove): Here is a Sample Email you can use to announce Step 3 of the OKRs Cycle --- Reflect and Reset: When to Send: Two to three weeks prior to the end of an OKRs cycle Email Subject: Preparing for our upcoming OKRs reflect and reset sessions From: OKRs Project Lead To: In this case, it was sent to 12 team leads setting OKRs. However, an email like this may also be sent to an entire group of attendees from the initial OKRs workshop or the entire list of key result champions who will reflect and reset on their key result during the session. [Email Body:] All, As you recall, our OKRs coach helped us get through Step 1: set and align OKRs and Step 2: check-in and monitor. As we prepare for the end of our first OKRs cycle, it is time to for Step 3: reflect and reset. In this last step of the cycle, we document learnings and draft OKRs for the upcoming quarter. Timeline for creating OKRs as we enter our next cycle in Q4: By Oct 1: Reflect and reset with [COACH NAME] By Oct 8: Review draft OKRs with CEO to confirm direction By Oct 15: Refine OKRs with [COACH NAME] By Oct 22: Publish to the OKRs tracker Instructions: At the end of each cycle, we take an hour to reflect on the prior period’s OKRs and apply what we learned. The outcome of a reflect and reset session is that each key result: (1) gets final scoring, (2) has a documented learning, and (3) is classified into one of three buckets: Keep: The key result’s final score is not where we want it to be. We need to KEEP focused on moving this metric forward. Modify: The key result needs to be adjusted based on learning. For example, we may have set a key result: “$5 million in new customer revenue” and achieved $10 million with a single customer only to learn that we need a more diverse set of customers. In this case, we might MODIFY to “five customers with $1 million+ revenue each.” Remove: The key result is no longer worth pursuing or is best monitored as a health metric. All key result champions attend reflect and reset sessions. Other interested team members are encouraged to join as well. Thanks, [OKRS PROJECT LEAD NAME] The 3 Tips for Success with Reflect & Reset are: Purpose: (1) Agree on final scores for key results, (2) capture learnings from the OKRs cycle, and (3) apply these learnings to the next cycle. Duration: Thirty to sixty minutes, depending on the number of key results. Limit the time per key result to ten minutes. If more time is required, agree who will meet after the group discussion to resolve. Attendees: Key result champions must attend this session; ideally, the entire team attends. Consider conducting a reflect and reset coaching session with two teams to optimize learning. To request your free 1:1 OKRs Consult, contact Ben@OKRs.com Thanks for listening and best of luck closing out your OKR cycle!

  • #20
    March 11 · 11 min

    OKRs Come Alive at Check-In: How to Execute on What Matters Most (Cycle 2/3)

    After you publish OKRs and complete step 1 of the OKR cycle, you're excited and ready to go! But then, reality hits and it's time for step 2 - check in and make progress on OKRs. Here's where the rubber meets the road: The #1 reason OKR projects fail is called "set-it-and-forget-it" and it could happen to you. This episode is about EXECUTION and how you can avoid the set-it-and-forget-it pitfall so that you make progress on your most important goals at work. Here's the 2x2 template we use at OKRs.com with our clients to standardize the check-in process: Please post a comment about your OKR check-in process! Is it working well? If not, contact Ben@OKRs.com for your free 1:1 OKR Consult... Bonus: Video overview of OKRs Cycle Step 2 - Check In Thanks for listening!

  • #19
    March 10 · 41 min

    How to Define Team Level OKRs in 7 Practical Steps (OKR Cycle Step 1 of 3)

    This episode is long, but VITAL! It kicks off your OKRs journey with the most critical step: setting and aligning effective OKRs. Many teams try OKRs to gain focus, but fall into common traps like: Defining too many objectives Writing key results as task lists Working in silos without clear alignment. This leads to "busy teams but no progress" You’ll learn how to avoid these pitfalls by focusing on 1-3 objectives, distinguishing outcomes from activities, and clearly defining why each objective matters now. Ben also walks you through the importance of mission and alignment to ensure your OKRs connect vertically to strategy and horizontally across teams. Using real client examples, you’ll see how strong objectives, measurable key results, and cross-functional collaboration come together to create clarity, focus, and impact. If your organization has struggled with OKRs before, you’re not alone, this episode shows you how to get them right from the start. Sample OKR from today's episode for a marketing team: Marketing Team Mission: Provide tools to enable our sales team to sell and beat the competition Alignment Check: We depend on sales, product, and customer success. Sales and finance depend on us. Objective: Increase the quality of leads, cost effectively Why Now? We are not measuring the return on investment (ROI) of major marketing spend at events, and our new CEO wants visibility now to create an ROI-based marketing plan next year. Cost per lead at $105 is not viable as we scale and is a key driver in the financial plan. The sales team reports that the quality of leads we deliver is poor. Key Results: Obtain baseline ROI of marketing as measured by reporting revenue/cost for 5 conferences where we spent $50,000 or more Reduce overall cost per lead from $105 in Q4 to $75 in Q1 Double the quality of leads as measured by an increase in leads that convert to opportunity within six weeks of creation from 20% to 40% Team-Level Mission Exercise: Characterists of Effective Key Results: “Key” not “all” – Is the key result just “business as usual” or is it a “key” result Specific – Using specific language improves communication and avoids ambiguity Measurable – Progress should not be subject to opinion Results not tasks – Key results are results/outcomes, not tasks Clear – Use High School English with only standard acronyms Aspirational – You achieve more when you set the bar high Scored – Use 0-1 scores to clearly communicate targets, manage expectations Owned – All KRs have an owner who agrees to update progress and ensure the KR does not slip through the cracks Further Reading: Team-Level OKRs in 7 Steps For your free 1:1 OKR consult, contact Ben@OKRs.com Video Training of OKRs Cycle Step 1 Video Training featuring 3 Steps of OKRs Cycle Thanks for listening and see you next time!

  • #15
    March 9 · 8 min

    Train the Trainer for OKRs: How to Build Internal OKR Capability (Workshop 2 of 4)

    Ben's favorite workshop - this is the one his clients ALWAYS LOVE! The OKRs Expert Workshop is designed to help organizations build the internal capability to sustain and scale their OKRs program long after the external coach is gone. First developed in 2014 with Zalando, this workshop pioneered a structured approach to developing internal OKRs coaches—leaders who can guide teams, strengthen alignment, and keep the OKRs process alive quarter after quarter. Unlike introductory OKRs sessions that focus on writing OKRs, the Expert Workshop focuses on coaching skills. Through highly interactive breakout groups, participants rotate through three roles—coach, coachee, and observer—learning how to ask powerful questions, clarify outcomes, and support teams in drafting effective OKRs. The emphasis is simple: the only way to learn OKRs is to do OKRs. Ideal for organizations running team-level OKRs, this 6–8 hour onsite workshop works best with 12–18 cross-functional participants and is built around hands-on application, shared learning, and real coaching practice. This workshop is also for smaller groups of 6-12 trainees via remote delivery over two mini-workshops of ~2 hours each. Key Takeaways • Build internal OKRs coaches • Practice structured coaching in small groups • Strengthen long-term OKRs sustainability and scale Sample Agenda for an Onsite OKRs Expert Workshop (Idea for large group of 12-18, max 24 trainees) 9:00–9:30 am: Welcome and introductions 9:30–10:00 am: OKRs theory 10:00–10:45 am: Group exercise: Draft key results for a top-level OKR 10:45–11:00 am: Break 11:00–11:30 am: Creating team-level OKRs in 7 steps 11:30–12:30 pm: Breakout round 1: A coaches B, C observes 12:30–1:30 pm: Lunch 1:30–2:00 pm: Share backs 2:00–2:30 pm: Rapid breakout round 2: B coaches C, A observes 2:30–3:00 pm: Share backs 3:00–3:30 pm: Wrap-up: feedback, next steps, and key takeaways Contact Ben@OKRs.com to learn more or for a free 1:1 OKR consult. Thanks for listening!

  • #16
    March 7 · 11 min

    KR Champions: The Hidden Driver of OKR Progress (Workshop 3 of 4)

    OKRs are failing everywhere I look, not just according to Reddit! That's because "IDEAS are EASY, EXECUTION" as Doerr declares is spot on. And once your OKRs are in place and everyone is excited, things fall apart for many of you. Your execution is weak, for 3 reasons: PROBLEM 1: Zero OKRs review = “Set-it-and-forget-it” OR introducing ad-hoc “OKRs-specific” meetings & processes. SOLUTION: Integrate OKRs into existing team meetings & processes* PROBLEM 2: Inconsistent scoring (historical, predictive, color-coding). SOLUTION: Apply standard scoring system during the cycle; use 4-column check-in update template (progress, predicted score, blockers/risks, action items) PROBLEM 3: Not clear about who’s accountable for updating key results. SOLUTION: Each KR has a champion (can be 2 champions, max 3) who updates progress But there's more to this. You'll learn how the KR Champion workshop stacks the deck in your favor that you'll make real progress on your KRs! In other words, you'll execute, you'll get what John Doerr calls "EVERYTHING" And as a bonus, Ben gets into how coaching KR champions right before check-ins during your first cycle can create more accountabilty, focus, and progress so you move the needle on your OKRs. This episode features new content that was not included in Ben's 2022 OKR book. To learn more about how to deliver a KR champion workshop in your organization, contact Ben@OKRs.com to get your 1:1 consult.

  • #27
    March 5 · 32 min

    How Zalando Scaled OKRs Using a Train-the-Trainer (TTT) OKR Expert Workshop (Real OKR Implementation #2))

    This is the second episode in a series of "Real-OKR Implementation" stories that I hope you find super-useful. When organizations adopt OKRs, the early excitement is usually high. Executives align around strategy. Teams draft, refine, and publish their OKRs. Then comes the hard part: Scaling across departments Structuring OKR check-ins that add value, at a set cadence Maintaining quality after that initial set of solid OKRs Sustaining momentum beyond the initial rollout One of the clearest examples of how to scale OKRs the right way comes from Zalando, Europe’s leading online fashion platform for women, men, and children, founded in 2008 in Berlin. Their journey illustrates why scaling OKRs isn’t about better templates or better software. It’s about building internal capability. And that insight ultimately shaped what we now offer at OKRs.com as the OKR Expert Workshop, our Train-the-Trainer (TTT) program. The Scaling Challenge: From Pilot to Enterprise Zalando began using OKRs within a single department with roughly 80 employees, Brand Solutions, before rolling them out more broadly across the company. Like many fast-growing organizations, they wanted: Greater alignment across teams Increased transparency Clearer articulation of strategy A system that encouraged stretch and collaboration They adopted a version of the Google model which was super-popular when they first got started with OKRs which features: KRs are scored on a 0-1.0 scale 0.7 as the “sweet spot” or “target” Public grading No linkage to bonuses or compensation That last decision was critical. By keeping OKRs separate from compensation, they protected stretch thinking and avoided sandbagging. The pilot phase allowed teams to learn: What a great objective looks like How to write measurable key results Why scoring KRs is critical How transparency can enable alignment But after the pilot, a major challenge emerged. While it is easy for most teams to draft objectives, coaching people to develop measurable and impactful KRs that represent achievement of their objective at scale is quite a challenge. The Turning Point: Build Internal OKR Experts As OKRs expanded beyond the initial department, Zalando recognized that central oversight wouldn’t scale. Reviewing every OKR from the top would create bottlenecks and slow execution. Instead, they invested in building in-house OKR expertise. They invited Ben Lamorte to develop a program to create internal OKR coaches so that they could embed OKR expertise throughout their organization. We co-developed a workshop to effectively train OKR coaches with Zalando. Managers and selected team members (often agile coaches and HR business partners) were trained to: Facilitate OKR drafting sessions Identify KRs that look like a task on a to-do list Guide alignment conversations across teams Run structured quarterly check-ins Support peers in refining KRs This approach laid the foundation for what became known as the OKR Expert Workshop, and later evolved into a formal Train-the-Trainer (TTT) model. The lesson learned from our work with Zalando is obvious: if you want OKRs to scale, you must build internal capacity to support and sustain the OKR program. A small group of trained OKR facilitators can sustain quality across hundreds or thousands of employees. Without that layer, OKRs often degrade into: Restatement of roadmaps into KRs that look like a “to-do list” Compliance exercise that is at best a waste of time “Set it and forget it” documents that fail to deliver value What the OKR Train-the-Trainer (TTT) Model Teaches The OKR Expert Workshop, which we now call our Train-the-Trainer program, goes far beyond theory. Participants practice: Shifting from an output to outcome-mindset to define KRs that reflect results not tasks KR scoring criteria defined upfront for alignment and expectation management Facilitating alignment sessions across functions Running OKR development workshops to move from draft->refine->publish Coaching leaders by asking clarifying questions that improve OKR quality Challenging the action plans proposed by KR champions to focus on impact The goal is distributed capability and when done well, OKRs become a shared operating language, not a compliance exercise. Alignment Week: Designing Alignment Into the Process One of the most powerful scaling mechanisms Zalando implemented was an “alignment week” at the beginning of each quarter. Instead of hoping cross-functional conversations would happen organically, they designed time for them. During alignment week: Calendars were intentionally lighter OKR owners met with dependent teams Cross-functional buy-in was secured before finalization This simple structural choice prevented downstream conflict and strengthened shared ownership. Alignment isn’t accidental. It must be designed, or “embedded into every element of your OKRs program” (See the 6th OKR mantra) Transparency as an Alignment Multiplier Zalando reinforced transparency through: Quarterly company-level OKR presentations Department all-hands meetings Public grading Broad visibility into team OKRs Ongoing training and education Transparency created: Clear direction Shared accountability Faster resolution of dependencies Stronger cross-team convergence When OKRs are visible, alignment improves naturally. Critical Insight: Tools Alone Do Not Create Maturity Interestingly, Zalando operated successfully for an extended period using simple Google Docs/Sheets prior to implementing a dedicated OKR platform. This reinforces a fundamental principle about OKR implementations: Tools can make a process more efficient and even amplify the effects of a system, but they cannot create that system. The early priorities in an effective OKR program must be: Quality of objectives and key results Coaching capability Alignment behavior Check-in discipline Leadership sponsorship Software becomes powerful once those foundations are strong. Results: From Framework to Operating System As OKRs matured, Zalando experienced: Greater cross-team alignment Clearer company direction each quarter Stronger strategic conversations A self-sustaining OKR expert community Reduced dependency on centralized oversight Most importantly, OKRs became embedded in how the organization operated. They were no longer a “program.” They were part of the culture. Lessons for Organizations Scaling OKRs If you’re implementing or scaling OKRs, here are the key takeaways: 1. Pilot Before You Scale Start in one department, learn quickly, and refine the approach before broad rollout. 2. Build Internal OKR Experts Train a cohort of leaders to facilitate drafting, alignment, and check-ins. 3. Protect Alignment Time Create structured windows (like alignment week) for cross-functional coordination. 4. Separate OKRs from Compensation Preserve stretch, learning, and honest scoring. 5. Focus on Behavior Before Software Strengthen capability and cadence before investing heavily in tooling. Why the Train-the-Trainer Model Works Many OKR rollouts fail because organizations underestimate the human component. OKRs change: How teams prioritize How leaders communicate How tradeoffs are resolved That requires facilitation skill, not just documentation. The OKR Expert Workshop, now offered as a formal Train-the-Trainer (TTT) program at OKRs.com, exists to build that internal capability. And some of our clients who already have an OKRs program in place but feel it is not scaling well benefit from our TTT program which can add exponential value even in just one month! It ensures OKRs scale through people, your people. Scaling OKRs successfully can happen in your organization so long as you build the internal capability to make the framework your own. To explore TTT for your organization, contact Ben@OKRs.com Thanks for listening!

  • #14
    March 4 · 17 min

    OKR Workshops: Top Level (1 of 4)

    Armed with your deployment parameters, it's time to get going with OKR training! A great OKRs workshop has two essential parts. First comes theory, where leaders align on why OKRs matter, how they work, and how the organization will deploy them. Then comes application, where teams actively draft and refine real OKRs through interactive exercises and discussion. Ben explains how to structure both parts for maximum engagement, alignment, and real outcomes. And it all starts with the top-level workshop, the first in a series that details the four most valuable OKR workshops OKRs.com has delivered over the years! To make the theory section more engaging, here is a sample 10-minute exercise that Ben mentions in this episode to get your group involved right from the start! Instructions for Sample Workshop Exercise Present a slide like the one shown above Ask participants to share several metrics that they are currently tracking Classify each metric as a health metric or a key result Duration: five to ten minutes Key points to reinforce: Just because you measure it, does not mean it is a key result Health metrics often take priority over key results if they move out of their ‘healthy range’ A given metric may shift from a key result to a health metric over time and vice versa Ben introduces 3 of the 4 OKR Training Workshops in THIS VIDEO Want to run your own OKRs workshop Contact Ben@OKRs.com to get a sample agenda, a complete OKR workshop slide deck, and even a ready to use email you can send ahead of the workshop to prepare participants.

  • #18
    March 3 · 8 min

    The 6th Mantra: Embed Alignment into Your OKRs

    Ben once chanted mantras as he stretched his arms and legs. He repeated these mantras hundreds of times and internalized them as a student of yoga. The OKRs Field Book introduced the first five mantras for OKRs coaches. You should internalize these mantras! But Ben introduces the sixth mantra for OKRs coaches based on a recent interview in as a guest on another podcast. The sixth mantra for OKRs coaches is to “build alignment into the fabric of your OKRs coaching engagement.” If you are looking to take your OKRs coaching skills to the next level or contribute to a future edition of The OKRs Field Book, here are THREE things you can do now: Get your copy of The OKRs Field Book Join The OKRs Coach Network Request a free 1:1 OKR Consult via Ben@OKRs.com Thanks for listening, see you next time! PS Here's my initial post announcing the 6th mantra

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  • #33
    March 2 · 17 min

    Why OKRs Fail: 40 Common Mistakes (Part 2)

    The long awaited sequel to the first 20 reasons. Ben breaks down reasons 21-40, so you can learn from the others who've gone before you. In case you missed it, here are the first 20 reasons why OKRs fail. And if you encountered one of these 40 reasons why OKRs fail, let us know in the comments. If you you failed with OKRs for a reason not included in these 40, please do share so others can benefit from your lessons learned! Good luck with OKRs. To learn about how we can help you succeed and and make progress on our goal... Key Result: Increase reported OKRs success rate from ~60% to 80% (stretch = 90%), Check us out at: www.okrs.com Thanks for listening! -Ben Note: This complete list of 40 is based on Ben's 15 years + experience and the team at OKRs.com. Shout out to Ana Venosa, Peter Kerr, Padmini Sathish, Nash Billimoria, Manos Koumantakis, Yuval Yeret, and Roger Longden for their input as well.

  • #34
    March 1 · 12 min

    Top 10 Reasons OKRs Fail + Why Strategic Execution Fails in General (Executive Summary for CEOs)

    Top 10 Reasons OKRs Fail (Executive Summary) Why do OKRs fail? It is rarely because of the framework itself. After 15 years helping organizations implement structured performance systems, one pattern is clear: Execution systems fail for predictable reasons. You may have seen the full breakdown of the 40 Common Reasons OKRs Fail. That's a lot! This Executive Summary focuses on the Top 10 patterns that derail OKRs -- and strategy execution in general. Because these mistakes are not unique to OKRs. They show up in: OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) OGSM 4DX (Four Disciplines of Execution) EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) Balanced Scorecard This episode is not about defending an acronym. It is about understanding what actually drives alignment, focus, and measurable results. The Top 10: Ben walks through the Top 10 reasons execution systems fail: No CEO buy-in Unclear why the organization is using OKRs Confusing OKRs with strategy Rolling out to too many teams too quickly Too many OKRs Key Results that are vague or read like a to-do list “Set it and forget it” behavior No internal OKR capability Inconsistent Key Result scoring Skipping Reflect and Reset For each failure pattern, Ben provides a clear and practical fix you can apply immediately. Key Takeaways OKRs are not strategy. They are a vehicle for executing strategy. Execution discipline must be modeled by the CEO. Focus requires trade-offs. Measurable outcomes matter more than activity. Cadence and reflection turn a framework into a performance operating system. No execution system works without leadership ownership and internal capability. Why This Matters If your organization struggles with alignment, inconsistent performance, or stalled strategic initiatives, the issue may not be the framework you chose. It may be how it is being implemented. This episode gives you the executive-level clarity needed to diagnose execution breakdowns quickly. Learn More To explore the full list of the 40 common reasons OKRs fail, structured performance systems, OKRs consulting, or strategy execution workshops, visit OKRs.com.

  • #12
    February 27 · 7 min

    Why teams struggle to write good Key Results (and to ensure ownership)

    When team members help define key results, engagement rises, ownership increases, and alignment becomes real AND you get more progress on those KRs! But how do you balance leadership direction with team driven input without going too far top down or too far bottom up? Ben explores how successful organizations strike the right balance. You will hear why a purely top down approach often disengages teams, why a fully bottom up approach can become inefficient, and how the most effective OKR programs combine clear leadership context with team driven thinking. You'll learn about a practical approach in which leaders introduce objectives and strategic intent while team members take the lead in defining most key results. Ben also gives an example of when it can make sense to begin with a more top down first cycle so leadership becomes comfortable with OKRs, and how organizations gradually shift toward stronger team participation in later cycles. You will learn how this evolution increases ownership, strengthens alignment, and turns OKRs into a shared framework for driving meaningful progress. If you want your teams to feel true ownership of their goals while maintaining strategic clarity, this episode provides practical guidance to help you build a balanced, engaging, and effective OKR development process. For your 1:1 OKR Consult with Ben, just email Ben@OKRs.com with subject "Free 1:1 Consult" and let Ben know if you're already using OKRs, about to launch, or just exploring.

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  • #11
    February 26 · 11 min

    The Cascading Myth: Why Top-Down OKR Alignment Fails (And What Actually Works) (9/10)

    Alignment is one of the most important goals of OKRs, yet many organizations misunderstand how alignment actually works. In this episode, Ben explains why the common idea of a strict top down cascade often fails, and how real alignment comes from conversation, clarity, and shared understanding rather than diagrams and arrows. The Wrong Approach: The Direct Cascade The direct cascade begins with OKRs at the top level, which is a good starting point. However, it requires lower level OKRs to be subsets of higher level OKRs. In practice, this approach rarely works. Why it fails: It turns higher level key results into lower level objectives, which violates the distinction between objectives and key results It discourages critical thinking and ownership at lower levels Teams copy and paste instead of creating meaningful OKRs It often reinforces silos rather than cross functional alignment While cascading may look clean in theory, organizations that rely on strict cascading almost always struggle. How Real Alignment Happens True alignment does not come from structure alone. It comes from shared understanding and conversation. Instead of cascading, teams should: Use higher level OKRs as context, not constraints Clearly explain why their objective matters now Discuss objectives with leadership to confirm alignment Collaborate horizontally across teams where needed In many cases, alignment is confirmed through discussion rather than visual mapping. A team’s objective can be fully aligned even if it does not directly map to a higher level OKR. Using Why Now to Confirm Alignment Each team should articulate why their objective is important now and how it supports strategy or cross team priorities. This explanation becomes the foundation for alignment. Alignment occurs when leadership and teams agree on the importance of the objective, not when arrows connect boxes in a chart. A Practical Three Step Alignment Approach Inspired by practices used at leading organizations: Leaders review prior results and set direction for the next period while teams draft and refine OKRs through discussion Teams align their OKRs with higher level goals where appropriate, while allowing room for important work that may not directly connect All OKRs are published in a shared tracker so everyone can see, comment, and strengthen alignment across the organization Practical Guidance Do Use higher level OKRs as context for lower level thinking Explain how each objective connects to strategy through Why Now Confirm alignment through leadership discussion Do Not Use strict cascading to force alignment Turn key results into lower level objectives Copy and paste OKRs instead of creating them through critical thinking Strong alignment is not created by structure alone. It emerges through conversation, clarity, and shared commitment, enabling teams to work together toward meaningful outcomes. For your 1:1 OKRs Consult, just email Ben@OKRs.com

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