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Back from the Borderline

mollie adler

Back From The Borderline is a podcast about depth psychology, symbolism, spirituality, consciousness, and the search for a more meaningful life.


I started this show years ago while trying to understand my own mind. Somewhere along the way, the questions became much bigger than me. They led into Carl Jung, mythology, Christian mysticism, dreams, tarot, philosophy, esotericism, religious history, artificial intelligence, and the symbolic patterns that quietly shape the way we see ourselves and the world around us.


The word borderline has taken on its own meaning over the years. It speaks to the edge almost all of us eventually reach. That place where our old explanations stop working and we’re asked to learn an entirely different way of seeing. That’s the space my work inhabits.


Some episodes are conversations with researchers, psychologists, philosophers, historians, and spiritual teachers. Others are long-form essays where I follow a question wherever it leads. Lately I’ve been especially interested in symbolic literacy, the way images, myths, dreams, and archetypes quietly organize human life, often long before we’re consciously aware of them.


I’m not very interested in being “certain” about anything. I care about learning to recognize patterns, hold complexity without rushing toward easy conclusions, and recover forms of wisdom that help us live with greater honesty, imagination, and responsibility.


If you’ve found yourself searching for Carl Jung, depth psychology, symbolism, archetypes, spirituality, mythology, Christian mysticism, tarot, dreams, consciousness, philosophy, or the Western esoteric tradition, I think you’ll feel at home here.


Alongside the public podcast, I also host House of Cards, an ongoing study of the Rider-Waite-Smith tarot through psychology, symbolism, mythology, and contemplative practice, as well as MOODS, an app I designed for dreamwork and deep inner inquiry. Both are extensions of the same project: learning to see more clearly.


You can explore everything, including new episodes, House of Cards, Patreon, and MOODS, at backfromtheborderline.com.


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  • Nov 10, 2023 · 23 min

    unlocking emotional freedom: a guide to EFT tapping [preview]

    In this preview of a Premium Submarine exclusive episode, we'll be expanding on the topics covered in my conversation with Dr. Larry Burk and explore the world of Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), a powerful tool for healing emotional wounds and overcoming trauma.Together, we'll demystify what EFT is and how it can help you release the grip of painful emotional experiences. Through my obsessive research, I'll break down the technique, providing a step-by-step guide to using EFT for yourself. You'll learn how tapping on specific points can bring emotional relief, ground us back into our bodies, and help rewire negative beliefs. I'm really excited to hear what you all think after you've given this a shot. I've been utilizing EFT since my interview with Larry, and I'm shocked at how quickly it can bring me out of a dissociative state and back into my body after a particularly triggering experience or when I fall into my frequent states of overwhelm. Enjoyed this episode? Explore more as a Premium Submarine. Dive deep into hundreds of hours of ad-free exclusive content and full-length episodes on Patreon, including my original BPD recovery series, guided meditations, and much more. Click here to preview the premium collections you’ll unlock access to for as little as a couple of cups of coffee a month. Learn more and join at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 7, 2023 · 1 hr 11 min

    from mainstream to energy medicine with dr. larry burk

    In this episode, we’ll embark on a fascinating journey with Dr. Larry Burk, a medical maverick who transitioned from mainstream medicine at Duke University to the realm of energy healing. Explore the untold stories of past pioneers of medicine like Ignaz Semmelweis, a 'savior of mothers' who was shamed for his “unconventional” groundbreaking ideas, only to be validated in the end, but only after his death. Larry and I also delve into the profound mind-body connection, uncovering how chronic pain and immune issues are intimately tied to our emotions and early life traumas. Dr. Burk shares his work with survivors of the MK Ultra experiments, revealing the resilience of the human spirit. You’ll also discover the transformative power of the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT Tapping) and gain insights from the ACE study, which revolutionized our understanding of how early-life trauma affects our physical health. This episode is your invitation to open your mind and embrace the unconventional healing methods of the future. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: • Visit Dr. Burk’s website at www.letmagichappen.com • “It Didn’t Start with You” by Mark Wolynn • “The Psychology of Totalitarianism” by Mattias Desmet • Tapping with Brad (YouTube Channel) • “Out on a Limb” Film by Shirley MacLaine (Free on YouTube) Enjoyed this episode? Explore more as a Premium Submarine. Dive deep into hundreds of hours of ad-free exclusive content and full-length episodes on Patreon, including my original BPD recovery series, guided meditations, and much more. Click here to preview the premium collections you’ll unlock access to for as little as a couple of cups of coffee a month. Learn more and join at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Nov 2, 2023 · 21 min

    "my phobia of death and dying is making it impossible for me to truly LIVE” [preview]

    Tune in for a free preview of this premium BFTB episode where we discuss all things related to how to cope with anxious or phobic feelings around death and dying. I understand this fear deeply because it’s ruled much of my life. And chances are it’s ruling yours, too. Turns out that learning more deeply about this subject and exploring how other cultures approach it instead of shoving my fears down further into my psyche has helped me more than anything else so far. I hope what I share can help, even just a bit. Because let's face it - the fact is that the idea of death is scary as hell for everyone, even if they won't admit it. TOPICS DISCUSSED: ✧ How to become more comfortable with the idea of death and dying ✧ What is Thanatophobia? (death anxiety / fear of death) – symptoms and overcoming it ✧ How different cultures deal with and view death (and the major differences between East and West) ✧ An exploration on Ram Dass’ view on death and dying: “Death is perfectly safe. It’s like taking off a tight shoe.” Enjoyed this episode? Explore more as a Premium Submarine. Dive deep into hundreds of hours of ad-free exclusive content and full-length episodes on Patreon, including my original BPD recovery series, guided meditations, and much more. Click here to preview the premium collections you’ll unlock access to for as little as a couple of cups of coffee a month. Learn more and join at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 31, 2023 · 1 hr 24 min

    processing complicated feelings around death and grief through working with the unseen worlds

    What if you could tap into the wisdom of those who have passed on, making their guidance available at your fingertips? Perdita Finn believes it's not only possible but essential. In her book, "Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World," she invites us to reclaim the forgotten guidance of the deceased and rekindle the magic and miracles in our lives. Finn masterfully weaves memoir, history, and a non-denominational spirituality rooted in ecology, encouraging readers to embrace the idea that the stories of our lives are far older, grander, and more compassionate than we've been led to believe. The journey she takes us on is one of healing, possibility, and love, as she shares her personal story of reconciling with her patriarchal father long after his passing. This episode will resonate most deeply with you if: ✧ You struggle with anxious or phobic feelings around death and dying (Thanatophobia) ✧ You are dealing with bereavement and grief after the death of a loved one ✧ You have lost someone with whom you’ve had a difficult or complicated relationship (how to process the death of someone who negatively affected your life) ✧ You battle with feelings of “affective ambivalence” (when you love and hate someone at the same time) ✧ You want to learn how to better process your feelings of rage, anger and resentment ✧ You have always felt the deep sense of interconnectedness of all living beings ✧ You’re seeking to tap into / deepen your trust with your intuition TIME STAMPS 00:00 – 01:27: Voicemail from Mikayla 01:27 – 08:02: The importance of developing a more flexible, holistic, and integral perspective when it comes to spirituality 08:02 – 15:32: How different cultures honor, pay respects to, and engage with the dead 15:32 – 20:53: About my guest, Perdita Finn 20:53 – 01:20:55: Interview with Perdita Finn RESOURCES ✧ Click here to buy “Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World” ✧ Click here to read my Substack article on revenge and repressed anger ✧ Click here to subscribe to Perdita’s Substack ✧ Click here to read more about The Finn/Clark family’s free non-denominational Rosary groups ✧ Click here to read the book Perdita co-wrote with her “reluctant” psychic Enjoyed this episode? Explore more as a Premium Submarine. Dive deep into hundreds of hours of ad-free exclusive content and full-length episodes on Patreon, including my original BPD recovery series, guided meditations, and much more. Click here to preview the premium collections you’ll unlock access to for as little as a couple of cups of coffee a month. Learn more and join at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 26, 2023 · 11 min

    why you keep falling in limerence with unavailable people who break your heart [preview]

    In this Premium Submarine exclusive, you’ll hear a preview of my response to a voicemail from a listener who is stumped as to why she continues to fall into the repetitive pattern of falling fast for unavailable partners. Questions answered + topics discussed in this episode: ✧ What is limerence? ✧ How to tell if your feelings for your romantic interest are infatuation or love ✧ What are the stages of limerence? ✧ How to manage limerent feelings and stop repeating self-sabotaging patterns ✧ Why some people are attracted to more avoidant partners (and why anxious and avoidant people tend to attract one another) ✧ Why do anxiously attached individuals often begin to resent or split on more avoidant partners ✧ How growing up in dysfunctional high-conflict homes can make us more attracted to high-conflict relationships (making safe/kind partners seem “boring”) Enjoyed this episode? Explore more as a Premium Submarine. Dive deep into hundreds of hours of ad-free exclusive content and full-length episodes on Patreon, including my original BPD recovery series, guided meditations, and much more. Click here to preview the premium collections you’ll unlock access to for as little as a couple of cups of coffee a month. Learn more and join at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 24, 2023 · 1 hr 48 min

    unlock the source code to your imagination matrix with stephen aizenstat, Ph.D

    Ever feel like you’ve hit a dead end in your recovery journey? Like you’re the one person destined to remain stuck in cycles of trauma, self-sabotage, and doubt? What if the answers you’re seeking are already within you, waiting to be accessed? In this transformative episode, we explore the healing power of imagination, creativity, and inner wisdom. Dr. Stephen Aizenstat, a pioneer in the field of depth psychology, joins me to guide us through reconnecting with our deeper selves. By tapping into this “core matrix” of imagination, we can access a greater intelligence that not only heals but also empowers us to become the agents of change our world needs. Dr. Aizenstat, founder of Pacifica Graduate Institute and Dream Tending, has collaborated with leading minds in psychology, mythology, and indigenous wisdom to explore the profound role of dreams and imagination in healing. His decades-long work offers practical insights for those ready to step beyond the limitations of rational thinking and embrace a more holistic, creative approach to growth and self-discovery. Topics Covered and Questions Answered in This Episode: The Role of Imagination in Healing: How reclaiming creativity and imagination in adulthood can provide us with transformative insights often overlooked by rational thinking. Why Modern Culture Disregards Intuition: Exploring the Western preference for logic over intuition and the cultural shift that suppressed our imaginative faculties. Active Imagination as a Tool for Self-Discovery: Using imagination to connect with our inner "parts" or "subpersonalities" and integrate them into a more harmonious self. Reframing Suicidal Thoughts as a Call for Transformation: Understanding deep emotional pain as a signal for psychic initiation or change. Grief Rituals and Healing: The role of intentional rituals in processing grief and fostering emotional resilience. Projection and Relational Pain: Why we often project unresolved pain onto others and how to reclaim ownership of these feelings. Facing Ambivalence about Death: Acknowledging and exploring our fears around mortality as part of a holistic healing journey. Tuning into the Inner Self: Practical ways to connect with the deeper self, whether seen as True Nature, Higher Self, Buddha-nature, or Christ-consciousness. The Life-Changing Power of Curiosity: How cultivating a curious approach toward life can shift our mental state and open us to new possibilities. Healing Emptiness by Engaging with Your “Inner Council”: Developing a relationship with your inner guides and mentors to navigate chronic feelings of emptiness. Resources: ✧ Click here to purchase Stephen’s new book “The Imagination Matrix” ✧ Visit https://dreamtending.com/ to learn more about Stephen’s Dream Tending programs Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 17, 2023 · 14 min

    our paradigm-shifting UAP experience with the bledsoe family [free preview]

    This is a free preview of episode one of "Unbuttoned. My new "podcast within a podcast" with my partner in crime (and life) Zaz. To unlock the full episode (as well as hundreds of hours of other bonus content) sign up for my Patreon community today. More details on that below. ↴ References: ◦ UFO of God by Chris Bledsoe ◦ Duncan Trussell Family Hour Podcast – E574: Ryan Bledsoe ◦ UFOs and Miracles – interview with Chris Bledsoe on New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove, PhD Craving more episodes like this one? Want to unlock the full version? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 17, 2023 · 2 hr 21 min

    creating a map through the hell of depression toward a radical elsewhere

    What if depression is not simply a “chemical imbalance” but an altered state of consciousness—a profound journey into the depths of our psyche? In this episode, we look at depression through the nuanced perspective of depth psychology, MBTI personality types, and the sheer mystery of consciousness itself. Joining me is Sarah Mergen, the creator @CarlJungMemes on Instagram. Sarah’s journey started in 2021 with a deeply personal exploration of depression, which she shared with her audience in a guide she called a "personal mythology of depression." Today, she continues that journey in her podcast series, Katabasis/Anabasis, where she delves into the intricate dance between darkness and self-discovery. We’ll discuss the surprising links between depression, intuition, and altered consciousness, as well as the way our personality types influence how we experience and understand these states. With depth psychology as our framework, Sarah and I examine what it means to navigate the darker facets of human experience, and why some of the most persistent questions about reality and selfhood often have no easy answers. Topics Covered: Is there a connection between depression and intuition? Exploring how some intuitive types may experience depression differently. Depression as an altered state: Could depression be a unique state of consciousness that pulls us into deeper self-reflection? Psychedelics and mental health: When using substances like LSD, can we risk experiencing what feels like a mental break if we’re not ready to integrate what comes up? Dissociative states and memory gaps: The strange reality of experiencing memory loss and dissociation during severe depressive episodes. The MBTI and Jung’s psychological types: Clarifying the distinctions between the MBTI framework and Jung’s original four psychological types. Introversion and extraversion: How Jung’s view of these traits differs from popularized interpretations in the MBTI. Are we living in a simulation? Exploring simulation theory beyond rational thought and as a metaphor for human consciousness. Labyrinths as life metaphors: Using the ancient symbol of the labyrinth to help guide us through cycles of depression, healing, and growth. Resources: ❀ “Experiences of Depression” by Matthew Ratcliffe ❀ Daughters of Saturn by Patricia Reis ❀ Hanging on and Letting Go by Tom Pyszczynski and Jeff Greenberg Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 10, 2023 · 1 hr 29 min

    accessing your innermost wisdom through dreamwork

    In a world of constant scrolling and instant advice, many of us lose touch with the wealth of wisdom within us—often ignoring dreams as mere “woo-woo nonsense.” But what if the key to deeper self-knowledge, insight, and even healing lies in reconnecting with our dreams? In this episode, we challenge the modern habit of looking outward for answers and explore how dreams can reveal messages from our bodies, minds, and innermost selves. By reclaiming our dreams, we open ourselves to a unique, personal path toward healing. Joining me is Naomi Sangreal, a psychotherapist, dream expert, and artist who integrates Jewish mysticism and depth psychology into her work. Together, we’ll discuss the historical and cultural significance of dreams, why dream symbolism is a powerful tool for inner work, and why relying on quick online “dream dictionaries” often oversimplifies the complex language of our unconscious. Key Topics Discussed: Why dreams matter and how they can guide our healing journey The historical and cultural importance of dreams across time How dreams are used in modern psychotherapy Why we often struggle to remember our dreams and how to improve dream recall Symbolism in dreams: what it is and how to interpret it The rarity and significance of prophetic or “important” dreams Why most online “dream dictionaries” are inaccurate and limiting TIME STAMPS 00:00 – 14:37 | Why we dismiss dreams and why they’re more meaningful than we think 14:37 – 59:47 | Interview with Naomi Sangreal on dream symbolism, mysticism, and healing 01:01:26 – 01:16:50 | Listener Voicemail from Annah: “Am I emotionally manipulative?” 01:16:50 – 01:44:48 | Listener Voicemail from Saia: When jealousy, insecurity, and body image issues impact relationships About the Guest: Naomi Sangreal is a psychotherapist and dream expert specializing in integrating depth psychology, art, and Jewish mysticism. With an MA in Counseling and Depth Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute and a BA in Transpersonal Psychology and Art Therapy from Naropa University, she provides a unique blend of spiritual insight and psychological expertise to her clients. Naomi’s new book, Little Hidden Doors, offers readers a deeper look into the world of dreams and healing. Follow Naomi on Instagram @psychesdreamwitch or visit her website at magicalpsychotherapy.com. Prepare to reconnect with a part of yourself you may have forgotten and discover how your dreams could be your most profound guide toward transformation and growth. Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Oct 3, 2023 · 1 hr 54 min

    tapping into your unconscious repressed anger as a highly sensitive person

    In this episode, we’ll delve into the intricate connections between toxic shame, family scapegoating abuse, and the enduring impact of repressed anger in adulthood. You’ll learn about the alignment between the family scapegoat and traits like intuition, empathy, and sensitivity. You’ll also witness a dynamic portrayal of rage, revenge, and anger in TV and film, and learn the catharsis that can come with tapping into these primal emotions within your own psyche. Check out the time stamps below for a more detailed description of the topics covered in this episode. These time markers will allow you to skip to the sections that most interest you or listen to again to portions that you require additional exploration or self-inquiry. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 – 12:30: An exploration of how the core wounds of toxic shame and family scapegoating abuse contribute to repressed anger in adulthood that wreaks havoc on our lives 12:30 – 25:10: The origins of the term “scapegoat” that uncover the hidden gifts and inherent strength in this dysfunctional family role 25:10 – 38:39: Why the family scapegoat is often an intuitive, empath, or HSP (highly sensitive person) 38:36 – 42:48: The importance of being able to tap into your repressed anger 42:41 – 52:52: Rage + Anger edit (examples of expressions of rage, revenge, and anger from TV and film) 52:49 – 56:34: How to use the rage + anger edit for primal scream therapy 56:29 – 01:31:40: Storytime (reading aloud my newest Substack article “revenge and repressed anger” with personal reflections) 01:31:40 – 01:37:37: Reflections + introduction of new BFTB partner PureSpectrum CBD 01:40:28 – 02:37:58: Repressed anger and the highly sensitive person – exploration of article by psychologist Imi Lo (how repressed anger can appear in various forms and how to release it in healthy ways) Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Sep 30, 2023 · 1 hr 15 min

    pov: your big sister is erykah badu and she's giving you some tough love

    I recently came across an interview with singer-songwriter and creative maverick Erykah Badu on YouTube. Her words were so impactful for me in this phase of my recovery journey that I knew I had to make an episode that included my favorite clips. Although she came from humble beginnings, Erykah’s “mutable” and child-like approach to life has unlocked a lifetime and career of possibilities. This episode will make you feel like you’re sitting down with your best friend, giving you the tough love that you may not want, but desperately need. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 – 7:32: Introduction (who is Erykah Badu and why I believe her attitude towards life is so inspiring) 7:28 – 8:17: The importance of looking forward to the future, rather than dreading it 8:17 – 15:31: How Erykah Badu views the development of a solid sense of self and identity (the importance of becoming “mutable,” or more flexible rather than rigid in life) 15:31 – 20:16: On not letting the opinions of others influence you or deter you from doing what you want, and learning to pace yourself 20:16 – 23:14: on facing the sexism and importance placed on looks in the music industry and mainstream media in the 90s 23:14 – 27:45: The advice Erykah Badu would give her “naïve” younger self (how to not become influenced by the thoughts and feelings of others) 27:45 – 31:31: How hip hop culture helped Erykah Badu cultivate her creative identity and confidence 31:31 – 34:53: How Erykah’s focus on “reinvention” and metamorphosis is her primary driver 34:53 – 39:07: Erykah’s advice on style and aesthetics (how to cultivate your own unique style) 39:07 – 48:21: Where does the word “woke” come from and how has it evolved? (How Erykah Badu including this in her song “Master Teacher” and tweeting it out regarding the scandal surrounding Russian activist group Pussy Riot gave the word “woke” a life of its own) 48:21 – 52:42: Why Erykah Badu believes we should avoid putting ourselves in “boxes” and the way labels can keep us stuck in rigid forms that don’t allow for growth and metamorphosis 52:42 – 57:26: On the importance of staying child-like while she unlearns toxic behaviors and stays conscious in her role as a mother 57:26 – 01:02:02: How Erykah uses her art and creativity to transmute and transform the wounds from generational trauma 01:02:02 – 01:05:21: Why we shouldn’t copy the path of others and the importance of finding our own way in life (ikigai philosophy) 01:05:21 – 01:15:38: The best and worst advice Erykah Badu has ever received (reflections on the hermetic principal “as above, so below”) Click here to the full interview on YouTube (“Mavericks with Ari Melber: Erykah Badu,” March 29th, 2023) Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Sep 26, 2023 · 1 hr 16 min

    family scapegoating abuse part 3: grief, acceptance, and healing

    Join me for the third and final episode in this 3-part series exploring the hidden complexities of the “scapegoat” or “black sheep” role within dysfunctional family dynamics. Family scapegoats start as innocent children or adolescents who bear the weight of projected family trauma. In this series, we’ll journey through the origins and consequences of scapegoating abuse, both in early childhood, as well as its lingering impact in adulthood. Together, we’ll explore how these experiences shape our emotional landscapes and relationships. By working with and integrating the concepts covered, you’ll discover valuable insights into breaking free from this suffocating role, allowing you to embark on a journey towards healing and liberation. It is my sincere hope that you can begin to unmask the layers of this covert form of psycho-emotional abuse, and learn to reclaim your narrative, rewriting a story of resilience and transformation beyond this dysfunctional label that was never yours to begin with. TIME STAMPS SCAPEGOATING SERIES PART 3: 00:00 – 04:46: Intro and reflections 04:46 – 29:16: Moving through the 5 stages of grief as a scapegoated adult child 29:16 – 01:00:08: Why is the stage of acceptance so difficult for those who have endured scapegoating abuse? PREMIUM: LISTENER VOICEMAILS: 01:00:08 – 01:26:12: Voicemail from Joslyn (moving on from a complicated breakup that involves trauma bonding, family enmeshment and addiction) 01:26:12 – 01:36:59: Voicemail from Jane (the difficulty that comes with trying to make a relationship work with someone who is in a different phase of their life) 01:36:57 – 01:45:44: Voicemail update from Lauren (more on her complicated entanglement with her work colleague) Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Sep 19, 2023 · 1 hr 17 min

    family scapegoating abuse part 2: signs, effects, and misdiagnosis

    Join me for part two of a 3-part series exploring the hidden complexities of the “scapegoat” or “black sheep” role within dysfunctional family dynamics. Family scapegoats start as innocent children or adolescents who bear the weight of projected family trauma. In this series, we’ll journey through the origins and consequences of scapegoating abuse, both in early childhood, as well as its lingering impact in adulthood. Together, we’ll explore how these experiences shape our emotional landscapes and relationships. By working with and integrating the concepts covered, you’ll discover valuable insights into breaking free from this suffocating role, allowing you to embark on a journey towards healing and liberation. By the end of this series, it is my sincere hope that you can begin to unmask the layers of this covert form of psycho-emotional abuse, and learn to reclaim your narrative, rewriting a story of resilience and transformation beyond this dysfunctional label that was never yours to begin with. TIME STAMPS SCAPEGOATING SERIES PART 2: 00:00 – 05:44: Listener voicemails reacting to the toxic shame series 05:25 – 12:19: The connection between scapegoating and toxic shame + intro to part 2 12:19 – 20:32: How scapegoating abuse can lead to misdiagnosis of mental health disorders 20:32 – 29:34: Questions to help you identify if you were the victim of family scapegoating abuse 29:34 – 38:08: Questions to help you identify if scapegoating abuse is still impacting you as an adult 38:08 – 45:50: Common experiences of scapegoated children 45:50 – 01:04:56: Processing the grief of the scapegoat role PREMIUM: LISTENER VOICEMAILS: 01:04:56 – 01:22:21: Voicemail from Molly (how to handle a partner who isn’t willing to do their own inner work) 01:22:21 – 01:39:28: Voicemail from Paige (how to keep your word with yourself and avoid self-abandonment when dealing with recovery from addiction and childhood trauma) Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Sep 12, 2023 · 1 hr 55 min

    family scapegoating abuse part 1: the black sheep

    In this episode, we begin an intense 3-part exploration of the “scapegoat” or “black sheep” role within dysfunctional family systems. Often misunderstood, family scapegoating assigns innocent children or adolescents the emotional burden of unresolved trauma, a pattern that can devastate self-worth and echo throughout adult life. Join me as we unpack the origins of scapegoating abuse, trace its psychological impact, and dive into real-life examples—from literary archetypes like Hester Prynne to my own story. This series is about more than awareness; it’s about empowering listeners to break free from toxic narratives. Together, we’ll uncover the hidden scars left by scapegoating and provide tools to help you reclaim your voice and reshape your identity on your terms. In Part 1, gain foundational insights into the scapegoat role and its far-reaching effects on identity, self-worth, and resilience. This episode lays the groundwork for deeper healing and transformation—beginning with awareness and the courage to confront our hidden wounds. Part 1 – Understanding the Scapegoat Role in Dysfunctional Families: 00:00 – 09:21 | Overview of family roles in dysfunctional systems 09:21 – 16:47 | Scapegoat archetypes in literature: Hester Prynne from The Scarlet Letter 16:47 – 21:36 | How toxic families select a child as the scapegoat 21:36 – 26:35 | My personal experience as the family scapegoat 26:35 – 32:55 | Key signs that you may be the scapegoat in your family 32:55 – 38:28 | The multigenerational cycle of family scapegoating abuse (FSA) 38:28 – 41:58 | Recognizing scapegoating abuse for what it truly is 41:58 – 44:36 | Deep emotional wounds caused by scapegoating 44:36 – 48:11 | Why scapegoating abuse often goes unrecognized 48:11 – 54:30 | The dehumanizing effects of scapegoating on children 54:30 – 01:05:21 | The scapegoat’s role in narcissistic family dynamics 01:05:21 – 01:11:16 | Toxic family narratives and distorted storytelling 01:11:15 – 01:15:19 | Physical, psychological, and emotional tolls of scapegoating Premium Segment: Navigating Ghosting in Relationships: 01:15:19 – 01:41:03 | Listener voicemail from Austin + reflections on ghosting 01:41:03 – 01:46:22 | What research reveals about the ghosting phenomenon 01:46:22 – 02:11:00 | The “anti-ghosting” trend on TikTok and strategies for compassionate relationship endings Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Sep 5, 2023 · 1 hr 29 min

    are you going to fit in or find your path? (ft. james hollis)

    What does it mean to live a life of true purpose and depth, especially when haunted by trauma, self-sabotage, or chronic emptiness? In this special episode, I sit down with legendary Jungian analyst Dr. James Hollis, whose latest work, A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity, addresses the question many of us find ourselves asking: “What does all of this mean?” For those recovering from abuse, neglect, or persistent inner turmoil, this conversation delves into why we feel trapped in self-sabotaging patterns and how we can transform our suffering into self-understanding. Dr. Hollis, a leading voice in Jungian psychology, unpacks how we can break free from life-denying cycles by cultivating a meaningful relationship with our inner world. He shares how reconnecting with our true essence—not our past wounds—can bring healing, fulfillment, and genuine self-expression. Dr. Hollis’s wisdom offers a path toward a more examined life, moving beyond the limiting labels of "good" or "bad" and embracing our complex, whole selves. Highlights and Key Questions Explored: 00:00 – 04:00: Introduction + listener voicemail reflections 04:14 – 10:21: What is Jungian psychology, and how does it foster a deeper, more transformative journey? 10:19 – 13:29: Why Jungian analysis offers a profound alternative to short-term approaches like CBT and DBT 13:29 – 17:30: Introducing Dr. James Hollis and his new book A Life of Meaning 17:34 – 25:25: Why do we repeat the same self-sabotaging behaviors, despite wanting to change? 25:20 – 27:56: How staying stuck in childlike patterns hinders adult self-growth 27:56 – 29:38: The roots of low self-worth in childhood and its lingering effects on adulthood 29:38 – 38:42: How to cultivate an inner life that nourishes your soul without losing touch with reality 38:42 – 50:25: Why living an examined life is essential for lasting inner peace 50:25 – 56:48: The risks of suppressing emotions—and the liberation that comes from facing them 56:48 – 01:03:28: How to handle overwhelming feelings of “emotional neediness” and build self-reliance 01:03:38 – 01:29:34: Analyzing the BetterHelp controversy and its implications for mental health, influencer ethics, and the future of online therapy RESOURCES “A Life of Meaning: Relocating Your Center of Spiritual Gravity” by James Hollis Click here to view other books by James Hollis Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Aug 29, 2023 · 1 hr 52 min

    living in the shadow of your family tree (interview with family constellations therapist marine sélénée)

    What if the emotional struggles you face aren’t yours alone but echoes from generations before you? In this episode, we dive deep into the powerful world of Systemic Family Constellations, a therapeutic practice developed by German psychologist Bert Hellinger. At its core, Family Constellations reveals a profound truth: we are profoundly shaped by our familial and ancestral bonds, often carrying wounds we didn’t create but can’t escape. Whether we acknowledge it or not, intergenerational trauma weaves through our lives, affecting our emotional landscapes with unexplained sadness, anxiety, or despair. My guest, Marine Sélénée, a renowned Family Constellations facilitator based in New York City and Miami, guides us through this transformative modality. Together, we explore how looking into our family’s past can illuminate hidden sources of pain and allow us to release these burdens, setting us on a path toward healing and deeper self-understanding. This episode unpacks the mysteries of Family Constellations, revealing how facing our family histories head-on can free us from patterns that have haunted us for generations. Episode Highlights: 00:00 – 06:38: Introduction and listener voicemails 06:38 – 11:28: The impact of inherited trauma on our lives 11:28 – 22:39: Breaking down Systemic Family Constellations therapy 22:39 – 26:41: Introduction to our guest, Marine Sélénée 26:41 – 01:42:21: Full interview with Marine Sélénée, exploring the roots and process of Family Constellations 01:42:21 – 02:12:44: What Family Constellations therapy looks like in real life – and how it brings hidden truths to light Recommended resources: • Book: Connected Fates, Separate Destinies: sing Family Constellations Therapy to Recover from Inherited Stories and Trauma • Work with Marine: https://www.marineselenee.com/ • Netflix series that explores Family Constellations “Another Self” • Live example of Family Constellation work with Bert Hellinger on YouTube (click here) Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Aug 28, 2023 · 1 hr 23 min

    it makes perfect sense why we're all sick and fucking tired

    What do “emotionally disturbed” individuals, poets, artists, and burnt-out therapists have in common? We’re all DONE with the systems designed to keep us “sick” and compliant. In this episode, we confront the oppressive structures that profit from our pain, fatigue, and desperation. You'll hear a searing spoken-word piece by Anita D, powerfully condemning forced psychiatric hospitalization—a system that cages rather than heals. Next, YouTuber and former therapist Daniel Mackler delivers a raw confession about why he left the therapy profession, disillusioned by an industry that often punishes instead of liberates. We also delve into a thought-provoking article by Dr. Bruce Levine, who argues that psychiatry’s “control-freak model” is not just failing but actively fueling the suffering and behavioral crises it pretends to treat. And finally, we’ll unpack the unlikely rise of viral artist Oliver Anthony (aka Christopher Anthony Lunsford), whose breakout song “Rich Men of Richmond” has become a cultural lightning rod. In a surprising turn, Anthony has refused to be co-opted by either side, instead calling out political leaders and corporate players for twisting his message for their own agendas. This episode is for the misfits, the rebels, the worn-down healers, and anyone who’s ever felt like a pawn in a system that would rather pacify than empower. Here’s to reclaiming your voice, defying expectations, and refusing to be silenced by those who see you as just another “case” or “consumer.” Resources mentioned in this episode are below. Please support and follow the work of these fierce and fearless change-makers: ✧ Spoken word poetry by Anita D (“And The Psych Ward Says”) via “Button Poetry” on YouTube [click here to watch] ✧ Why I Quit Being a Therapist by Daniel Mackler [click here to watch on YouTube] ✧ Click here to listen to my full interview with Dr. Bruce Levine (“The Crisis of Contemporary Psychiatry”) ✧ Original viral video of “Rich Men North of Richmond” posted by Radio West Virginia [click here to listen] Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Aug 22, 2023 · 2 hr 8 min

    the crisis of contemporary psychiatry with dr. bruce levine

    Has psychiatry lost its way? Increasingly, voices within and beyond the profession argue that Western mental health institutions may be perpetuating psychological suffering rather than alleviating it. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Bruce E. Levine, a clinical psychologist and outspoken critic of mainstream psychiatry, to dig into some of the field’s most pressing and controversial questions. Dr. Levine, known for challenging the status quo, explores how psychiatry’s overreliance on pharmaceutical solutions, the failure to address systemic sources of distress, and the widespread acceptance of diagnostic labels with questionable validity may be obscuring real pathways to healing. We examine the radical critiques that are now becoming more mainstream, including the lack of scientific support for the serotonin imbalance theory of depression, the diagnostic limitations of the DSM, and how treatment outcomes often fall short of meaningful relief. Dr. Levine, who serves on advisory boards for Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry and the National Center for Youth Law, connects the dots between culture, society, and the individual mind, pushing for an approach to mental health that addresses root causes rather than merely managing symptoms. Episode Highlights: 00:00 – 07:42 | Deprogramming and Unlearning: Why challenging our deeply held beliefs about mental health can be the first step to true understanding and healing 07:42 – 14:02 | The Rise of Critical Psychiatry: A brief history of the critical psychology movement and its implications for modern mental health care 14:02 – 19:42 | Exploring Dr. Levine’s Work: Understanding his commitment to ethical psychiatry and his stance on some of the field’s most contentious issues 19:42 – 01:55:50 | Interview with Dr. Bruce E. Levine: The myth of chemical imbalance, the DSM's limitations, and the systemic failures that prevent true mental health recovery 01:56:01 – 02:00:36 | Final Thoughts and Reflections: Summing up the conversation and reflecting on future directions for mental health 02:01:36 – 02:25:04 | Listener Question from Asja: Exploring the link between “analysis paralysis” and the long-term effects of chronic invalidation This episode invites listeners to reflect on the ways psychiatry could be reimagined to prioritize genuine human connection, social context, and the nuances of personal experience. Whether you’re skeptical of mainstream psychiatry or simply curious, this discussion offers insights that may challenge what you thought you knew about mental health. Recommended resources: ■ Bruce’s website ■ Article: Once Radical Critiques of Psychiatry are Now Mainstream, So What Remains Taboo? Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Aug 18, 2023 · 21 min

    the repressed anger to manipulation pipeline (free preview)

    In this laid-back episode, grab a matcha latte with me and settle in as we explore how unresolved childhood anger and trauma can shape the way we communicate and express our needs. Drawing on insights from somatic experiencing work, I unpack how suppressed anger often resurfaces in adolescence through "acting out" behaviors, leading many of us to adopt unhealthy patterns like manipulation and deception to feel seen and heard. But here’s the pivotal realization: these shadow tendencies may have served a purpose once, but they don’t need to define us. By bringing these hidden aspects into the light, we can recognize that these self-sabotaging habits are no longer necessary. This episode is all about discovering how to voice our needs in healthy, direct ways, moving away from reactive behavior and embracing communication that’s rooted in authenticity, integrity, and self-respect. Topics Explored in This Episode: How suppressed childhood anger shapes communication patterns in adolescence The link between emotional repression and “acting out” behaviors How manipulation and deceit arise as coping strategies Uncovering shadow aspects and breaking the cycle of self-sabotage Moving toward authentic self-expression and voicing needs with integrity Whether you’re on a journey to improve your relationships, strengthen your self-awareness, or just want to understand the roots of your own behaviors, this episode provides practical insights and grounding techniques to help you reconnect with your true voice. Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. GET 20% OFF ON YOUR FIRST ORDER FROM SOMMAR PRINTS WITH THE CODE "BFTB" [click here] or visit sommarprints.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • Aug 15, 2023 · 1 hr 37 min

    shame series part 8: religious trauma, rigid sex roles and cultural suppression of emotion

    This episode is the eighth and final installment of our multi-episode series, aiming to guide you in alchemizing and transmuting your toxic shame. Discover the insidious nature of toxic shame and its potential role as the root cause behind our ongoing suffering and emotional turmoil. At the core of self-sabotage, toxic shame leaves us feeling empty, unfulfilled, and disconnected from others. Learn how internalized toxic shame manifests uniquely in individuals, evident through feelings of unworthiness, negative self-talk, perfectionism, fear of vulnerability, struggles with intimacy, boundary challenges, chronic self-consciousness, avoidant behaviors, negative body image, and emotional instability. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 – 11:45: How “underworld experiences” can help bring us closer towards healing 11:45 – 25:05: Understanding the connection between religious trauma and toxic shame 25:05 – 29:41: The denial of secondary causality as the insidious and toxically shaming distortion of many religions 29:07 – 32:55: Spiritual bypassing and how religion is used to deny or suppress “bad” emotions 32:55 – 36:32: Religious addiction and perfectionism as mediated by psychological inflexibility 40:09 – 49:34: Healing toxic shame when it has become a cultural norm (how shame is baked into our modern culture) 49:28 – 01:03:05: How rigid sex roles foster the development of internalized toxic shame 01:03:05 – 01:08:25: The impact of mass cultural denial and suppression of emotion 01:08:25 – 01:17:38: Healing from toxic shame (a starting point) PREMIUM PORTION: 01:19:10 – 01:27:44: Listener question from Amy (what to do when you’re buried in toxic shame) 01:27:09 – 01:39:54: Listener question from Teresa (dealing with splitting, overthinking and PMS in a new relationship) 01:39:54 – 01:54:34: Listener question from Gia (can you be TOO self-aware?) 01:54:34 – 02:01:57: Outro + premium submarine updates and reflections Craving more? Become a Premium Submarine. Join an exclusive community and unlock hundreds of hours of members-only content: full-length episodes, deep-dive series, guided meditations, and more—all for the cost of a couple of coffees a month. Start exploring at backfromtheborderline.com. The information contained in this podcast episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for treatment or consultation with a licensed mental health professional. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.