
Sassee Cassee Gets Real About Her Height, Dating, Fetishization, Self-love & Her Love For Dancing.
Send us Fan Mail People have spent Sassee Cassee's entire life noticing what makes her different. But there is far more to her story than what people see. In this episode of Ava Devine's Bad Advice, I sit down with entertainer, feature dancer and content creator Sassee Cassee for an honest conversation about confidence, dating, fetishization, self-worth and learning to live without needing validation from other people. Sassee takes us back to a childhood where her mother made the decision not to shelter her. She talks about being bullied in school, learning to defend herself, becoming a gymnast and developing the resilience that would eventually follow her into adulthood. Then an unexpected opportunity changed everything. After appearing on The Jerry Springer Show, Sassee began travelling, performing and eventually built a career as a touring feature dancer before joining Micro Maidens, an all-women burlesque show featuring little people. But behind the performer is a woman who has spent much of her life navigating the difference between being seen and being objectified. Sassee opens up about what dating is really like when you constantly have to question someone's intentions, how she separates genuine attraction from fetishization, why being attracted to a little person shouldn't be considered taboo, and the boundaries she refuses to compromise in her career. ## Chapters 00:00 Meet Sassee Cassee 00:00:33 The Mother Who Refused To Shelter Her 00:01:17 Growing Up With A Minister For A Sister 00:02:00 Family, Faith & Spicy Entertainment 00:03:14 How Spirituality Helps Sassee Handle Negativity 00:04:05 What Growing Up Different Was Really Like 00:04:45 The Bullying That Changed Her 00:05:37 How Sassee Learned To Handle Haters 00:06:22 From Gymnastics To Jerry Springer 00:07:18 Why Sassee Felt She Had To Prove Herself 00:08:02 Searching For Acceptance Through Self Love 00:08:54 Sassee Cassee On The Jerry Springer Show 00:09:38 Moving To California & Chasing A Bigger Career 00:10:15 What Dating Is Really Like For Sassee 00:11:03 How She Spots Men With The Wrong Intentions 00:11:38 What Sassee Actually Looks For In A Man 00:12:24 Attraction vs. Fetishization 00:13:06 Why Attraction To Little People Isn't Taboo 00:13:55 When Attraction Becomes Fetishization 00:14:47 Dating Younger Men & Learning What She Wants 00:15:39 Sassee Opens Up About Her Attraction To Women 00:16:33 How Sassee Built A Career As A Feature Dancer 00:17:31 Inside The Micro Maidens 00:18:14 How Sassee Joined Micro Maidens 00:18:56 Feeling Celebrated vs. Feeling Exploited 00:19:37 The Performance Sassee Refused To Do 00:20:28 What Respectful Entertainment Looks Like 00:21:09 What Happens At A Micro Maidens Show? 00:21:45 The Gymnastics Skills Behind Sassee's Performances 00:22:39 What Actually Defines A Little Person? 00:23:44 Would Sassee Date Another Little Person? 00:24:33 How Sassee Entered The Creator Economy 00:25:28 Becoming Comfortable With Her Body & Sexuality 00:26:18 "Treat Me Like A Human Being" 00:26:50 Why Sassee Lets Children Ask Questions 00:27:37 "People Don't Look At Me Like I'm A Person" 00:28:14 The Airport Interaction That Made Sassee Speak Up 00:28:50 How Her Response To Ignorance Has Changed 00:29:35 Sassee Opens Up About Body Image 00:30:27 Why She Chose To Control Her Own Content 00:31:04 Building Her Career On Her Own Terms 00:31:58 The Boundary Sassee Refuses To Cross 00:32:39 Who Is Sassee Cassee Beyond The Persona? 00:33:28 What's Next For Sassee Cassee? 00:35:13 What Sassee's Friends Know That Fans Don't 00:36:08 The Unexpected Thing That Makes Her Laugh 00:36:52 The Money Lesson Sassee Wishes She Learned Earlier 00:37:44 "I Don't Need A Man To Be Happy" 00:38:47 Where Sassee Sees Herself In Five Years 00:40:25 Sassee Opens Up About Drug Addiction & Recovery 00:41:16 Sassee Cassee's Final Bad Advice If there is one thing to take away from this episode, it's this: you are more than the assumptions people make about you. Her story isn't about proving that she's just like everybody else. It's about reaching the point where she no longer feels like she has to prove anything at all. Follow Ava Devine Instagram: @theoneandonlyavadevine TikTok: @1avadevine Follow Ava Devine's Bad Advice Podcast Instagram: @avadevinesbadadvice TikTok: @avadevinesbadadvice X: @avadevinespod Follow Sassee Cassee X: @sassee_cassee IG: @sasseecassee89 Follow Micro Maidens X: @micromaidens IG: @micromaidens
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