WolverHeme Happy Hour

Bernard Marini, Anthony Perissinotti, et al.

Welcome to WolverHeme Happy Hour! This is a podcast dedicated to all things hematology! We discuss new data, debate controversial therapies, and talk about new and exciting research. While we nerd out about data, we'll have a few drinks!

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S1 · E49
July 1 · 1 hr 6 min
VAR Review with Dr. Bixby: Reversing the Call on MPAL
In this episode, Anthony and Bernie are joined by the great Dr. Bixby to discuss the difficulties in the diagnosis and treatment of acute leukemias of mixed or ambiguous lineage (ALAL/MPAL). We discuss: - Diagnostic uncertainties and how the criteria for diagnosis have changed over the years - Data behind the optimal treatment of MPAL and uncertainties in the literature - Promising data for the FLAG-VIPR hybrid regimen and other novel treatment strategies
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June 11 · 56 min
Bispecifics ate CAR-T's lunch: a multiple myeloma debate
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony are joined by Myeloma Man Manni Mohyuddin, MD to discuss the debate surrounding the treatment of first relapse in multiple myeloma. Should we be using CAR-T? Bispecifics? How does the new mezigdomide data from ASCO 2026 inform our practice? Listen in for a spicy discussion! Articles discussed: Nature Reviews Commentary: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41571-026-01159-6 CARTITUDE-4: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41571-026-01159-6 MajesTEC-3: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2514663 MajesTEC-9: https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMoa2603870 Control arms in multiple myeloma trials: https://ashpublications.org/bloodadvances/article/doi/10.1182/bloodadvances.2026020329/567836/Improving-Control-Arms-in-2026-U-S-Myeloma-Trials Predictors for CAR T cell therapy-associated immune-related adverse events? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41540109/ Dex prophylaxis for lymphocytosis: https://ashpublications.org/bloodadvances/article/10/10/3629/567462/Dexamethasone-prophylaxis-for-excessive-lymphocyte Mezi-KD vs. KD ASCO 2026: https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JCO.2026.44.17_suppl.LBA7506
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June 4 · 45 min
Episode 47: Cult-Like Thinking in BMT
“However much we flatter ourselves about our individual rationality, a good story, no matter how analytically deficient, lingers in the mind, resonates emotionally, and persuades more than the most dispositive facts or data.” Inspired by the article "The impact of cult behavior on haematopoietic cell transplant practices: believers and non-believers" (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41409-021-01473-w), in this episode, Anthony and Bernie are joined by transplant experts Tate Feeney, PharmD, BCOP and Aaron "Papa heme" Goodman, MD, to discuss "cult-like thinking" in hematology and BMT. We discuss why this occurs, go through some provocative examples, and talk about how to identify bias or ”cult-like thinking” in our own practices! Grab your favorite drink and prepare to join the wolverheme cult!
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April 13 · 1 hr 1 min
Spring Cleaning the Evidence from ASH 2025 with Common Sense Oncology
In this special video episode, Bernie and Anthony moderate a Common Sense Oncology discussion of key trials from ASH 2025! We are joined by special guest experts from across the globe to critically appraise the abstracts and discuss how they may or may not have changed clinical practice: Dr. Eddie Cliff (Australia) - Lymphoma Dr. Roberta Demichelis (Mexico) - Leukemia Dr. Manni Mohyuddin (USA) - Myeloma Join the Common Sense Oncology movement here! https://commonsenseoncology.org/get-involved/
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March 20 · 1 hr 4 min
HLH: From Chaos to Clarity... and Back to Chaos!
In this episode, Anthony and Bernie are joined by a panel of experts to discuss (and debate) everyone's favorite (or most feared) hematology topic - hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis (HLH)! Joining us on this spicy episode are: - Justin Kaner, MD - Madeleine Ochs, PharmD, BCOP - Catherine Johnson, PharmD, BCOP How should we manage these patients? H-Scores or HLH2004 criteria? What is the role for ruxolitinib? Emapalumab? CXCL9 levels? Grab your favorite drink and have a listen!
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February 10 · 46 min
An Exercise in Uncertainty with Jonathan Gluck
Anthony and Bernie are joined by special guest Jonathan Gluck, award-winning journalist and author of "An Exercise in Uncertainty: A Memoir of Illness and Hope" for a powerful conversation about living through uncertainty. Drawing on his decades-long journey with multiple myeloma, Jon reflects on the emotional, clinical, and existential uncertainties that shape living with cancer. The discussion moves beyond the patient experience to explore how uncertainty permeates everyday life, as well as oncology practice, including waiting for new therapies to become available, navigating logistical (and insurance) barriers, and interpreting evolving clinical trial data where the answers are not always clear. Jon is graciously donating a portion of the proceeds of the book to multiple myeloma research, so everyone who picks up a copy is donating to a good cause! https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/760582/an-exercise-in-uncertainty-by-jonathan-gluck/
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Dec 17, 2025 · 1 hr 23 min
ASH Leukemia Review: the more we learn, the less we know!
In this episode, Anthony and Bernie are joined by special guest, Dr. Justin Kaner from Weill Cornell Medicine, to discuss some of the most interesting ASH abstracts in leukemia in 2025! What abstracts should change practice? Listen to find out. Some of the abstracts discussed: PARADIGM: https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/296881 KMT2A Outcomes (MARROW Consortium and Othman, et al.): https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/302582 and https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/297333 CLIA +/- Ven: https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/302047 FLT3i studies (and MRD): https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/295719 and https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/302699 and https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/291322 ALL GIMEMA Trial (blin + ponatinib): https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/296532 Menin inhibitor data
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Dec 9, 2025 · 41 min
RIP 7+3 (1973-2025)? Why PARADIGM Doesn't Deliver the Eulogy
Anthony and Bernie discuss the PARADIGM study that was presented at the plenary session of ASH 2025 and whether results should change our practice. https://meetings-api.hematology.org/api/abstract/vmpreview/296881
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Nov 25, 2025 · 1 hr 9 min
MajesTEC-3 and ASH 2025: Let's get "TEC"nical
In this study, Bernie and Anthony are joined by the majestic myeloma man Manni Mohyuddin to discuss key ASH abstracts in myeloma, including the results of the MajesTEC-3 study!
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Oct 24, 2025 · 51 min
Episode 40: Coffee and Community Hematology
In this episode, Anthony and Bernie discuss the important role of community hematology. We discuss innovative research models, partnerships between community and academic practices, and ways to improve care for hematology patients who live near and far!
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Oct 9, 2025 · 49 min
Chill For 5: The Febrile Neutropenia Survival Guide
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony review the optimal management of febrile neutropenia! We talk about some historical data, optimal patient workup, proper selection of antibiotics, and a discussion of newer data regarding early antibiotic de-escalation in FN.
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Sep 10, 2025 · 49 min
Episode 38: Prophy and Pints!
We're back after a summer break! In this episode, Anthony and Bernie review the optimal approach to antimicrobial prophylaxis in hematology patients. How do you best choose prophylaxis for your patients? Where are we using data and where are we just making things up? Does everyone need antifungal, antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-PJP prophylaxis? We will demystify prophylaxis guidelines for you!
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Jul 11, 2025 · 58 min
Episode 37: Spilling Drinks over Cytarabine Dosing
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony talk about some BIG changes in cytarabine dosing in AML consolidation after a recent practice changing article. Will this change your practice? Hunault, et al. NEJM. 2025. https://evidence.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/EVIDoa2400326
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May 28, 2025 · 43 min
Episode 36: ODAC - Our Decisions Are Confusing
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony are joined by the Myeloma Man Dr. Manni Mohyuddin and lymphoma expert Dr. David Russler-Germain to discuss the very recent ODAC decisions on the STARGLO (glofitamab + GemOx) and AQUILA (daratumumab for smoldering multiple myeloma) trials. Did ODAC do their due diligence, or are there double standards? There is a lot to unpack in this episode!
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May 5, 2025 · 1 hr 10 min
CSO Encore Video Presentation - SWOG1826 & STARGLO Trials Critically Examined
This is a special encore video presentation of Anthony and Bernie teaming up with the Common Sense Oncology Journal Club series to discuss the SWOG1826 and STARGLO clinical trials. Tycel Phillips, MD, and Manju Sengar, MD join Anthony and Bernie for a great discussion of the trials and how they should impact practice! Join the Common Sense Oncology movement here! https://commonsenseoncology.org/
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Apr 7, 2025 · 59 min
Dex and the Cytokine City: Managing CRS with Bispecifics
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony are joined by 3 hematology pharmacists - James Davis, PharmD, BCOP; Victoria Nachar, PharmD, BCOP; and Justine Preedit, PharmD, BCOP - to discuss the optimal management of CRS in patients receiving bispecific antibodies! Inspired by this recent paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41408-025-01222-y
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Mar 11, 2025 · 1 hr 4 min
LFGooo! The Rise, the Fall, and the Resurrection of Gemtuzumab in AML
In this episode, Bernie and Anthony are joined by Dr. Charlie Foucar and Dr. Anand Patel to review the interesting and controversy-filled saga of gemtuzumab in AML? Should we be using this agent in AML? Tune in to find out!
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Jan 21, 2025 · 1 hr 6 min
Episode 32: Navigating a BlinatumoMAD World
In this episode, Anthony and Bernie are joined by two special guests to discuss recent updates to the use of blinatumomab in both adult and pediatric acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL), including the results of the AALL1731 trial and the full publication of ECOG1910. Julia Brown, PharmD, a Pediatric Hematology/Oncology Clinical Pharmacist and Lydia Benitez, an Adult Outpatient Leukemia Clinical Pharmacist bring their unique perspectives and expertise on the proper incorporation of blinatumomab into ALL care, as well as some of the major practical nuances that will be helpful to providers across the globe! Finally, for all of the Oncology Pharmacists in the audience, don't forget to fill out the HOPA Practice Outcomes and Professional Benchmarking Committee Survey!
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Jan 15, 2025 · 49 min
The Aquila Study: Blowing Hot Air or a Soaring Success for Smoldering Multiple Myeloma
AQUILA is a constellation shaped like an eagle, and also a hotly debated myeloma trial of daratumumab in smoldering multiple myeloma. In this episode, Bernie and Anthony are joined by myeloma expert Manni Mohyuddin to discuss the study's findings and whether or not they should change practice! Grab a drink and listen in for an exciting discussion. Note: L'aquila is Italian for eagle! AQUILA: Dimopoulos MA, et al. N Engl J Med. 2024 Dec 9. doi: 10.1056/NEJMoa2409029. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 39652675.
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Dec 24, 2024 · 1 hr 3 min
Pour Decisions, or ASH-olutely Fabulous? Reviewing 2024 ASH Lymphoma Updates
In this episode released just in time for the holidays, Anthony and Bernie are joined by Tycel Phillips, MD to discuss the most exciting updates from ASH 2024 in lymphoma! Pour yourself a drink and have a listen! Some selected abstracts: EA4151: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper212973.html Triangle Updates: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper200735.html , https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper201441.html EA4181: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper194641.html ENRICH: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper199710.html inMIND: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper212970.html POLARIX Long-Term F/U: https://ash.confex.com/ash/2024/webprogram/Paper197938.html

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