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We Should Talk

Megan Walsh & Amber Trejo

Megan and Amber are two Midwest trauma therapists who became real friends and kept having conversations they wished existed somewhere — honest, warm, a little chaotic, and nothing like what you'd expect from two people with therapy degrees.

Every episode, they get into real life. Relationships, motherhood, pop culture, mental health, and everything in between. No expert hats. No heavy air. Just two people being human and talking about it.

Your therapist has issues, too. Come find out. 🤍

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Tuesday · 52 min
We Should Talk About: Emotionally Immature Parents
This week, Megan and Amber catch up on everything from surviving intense weekend routines to celebrating major milestones including the surreal feeling of seeing long-term creative projects finally coming together. Plus, Megan shares a raw moment of navigating toddler tantrums that led to introducing a specific parenting role to hold boundaries. Then, they dive deep into the heart of this week's conversation: navigating the complex, often exhausting dynamics of growing up with an emotionally immature parent. In this episode, we talk about: The Spectrum of Emotional Immaturity: Why emotional immaturity isn't a one-size-fits-all label, and how past generational norms shaped the way older generations navigate emotions. The High-Stakes World of Youth Sports: The wild reality of stepping into competitive sports, managing high-energy schedules, and balancing parental capacity. Breaking the Cycle: How unhealed trauma and emotional misattunement bleed into parenting styles—and what it actually takes to step out of the pattern. When Conflict Feels Unsafe: Why adult children of emotionally immature parents often fear disagreement, and how defensive reactions like victimhood or shut-downs disrupt true repair. Roles We Play: The subtle shift into parentification or becoming the "lost child," and how those roles impact adult relationships and boundaries. The Grief of Not Feeling Seen: Processing the painful realization that a parent may never fully validate or see you deeply due to their own internal filters. A Moving Dream Encounter: Amber opens up about a deeply personal visitation dream after a loss that brought an unexpected sense of closure and healing. Navigating the Grandparent Dynamic: The bittersweet experience of watching parents interact with your children in ways you never experienced growing up. Connect With Us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weshouldtalk.pod/ Megan Walsh: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/connectwithmegan/ Website http://connect-with-megan.com/ Amber Trejo: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/integrativetraumatherapist/ Website https://www.theintegrativetraumatherapist.com/ If this episode helped you make sense of your relational world or gave you a new perspective on breaking generational cycles, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and share it with a friend who might need a little extra validation today!
September 1 · 54 min
We Should Talk About: Emotional Flashbacks
Ever catch yourself having a reaction to a situation that feels completely out of proportion, but you just can't seem to turn down the intensity? In this deeply validating episode, Megan and Amber break down the subtle, heavy world of emotional flashbacks - what they actually are, why they pop up when we least expect them, and how to navigate the waves when our past takes over our present. Between Megan's chaotic, high-intensity weekend at 36 weeks pregnant (involving an unexpected trip to Labor & Delivery and a very strict bedtime routine) and Amber's reflection on cycle-breaking parenting wins, the hosts explore what it really takes to build inner safety. Whether you're dealing with relationship triggers, parenting overwhelm, or carrying the lingering weight of family dynamics, this episode offers a gentle, practical roadmap back to yourself. Inside the Episode: The Anatomy of an Emotional Flashback: How present-day moments light up old core beliefs, and why "the more hysterical, the more historical" isn't just a phrase—it's a clue. Parenting, Partnership, & Triggers: Why the people closest to us bring out our deepest early wounds (and what's actually happening when we blow up over something small like the dishes or a toddler meltdown). The "SHORES" Method: Amber shares her step-by-step, body-focused framework designed to help you recognize, ground, and soothe your system during a flashback. Navigating the Scapegoat Role: A candid conversation on dysfunctional family systems, processing the grief of complex trauma, and how to stop repeating the cycle of self-abandonment. Behind the Scenes Update: Megan shares her maternity leave prep plan (and why the show won't miss a beat when baby arrives!). Have you ever caught yourself in an emotional flashback, or realized an old family dynamic was running the show in your relationships? How do you return to yourself when your nervous system feels overwhelmed? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! Instagram: We Should Talk Podcast Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website If this episode helped you make sense of your internal world or gave you practical tools to ground yourself, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and share it with a friend who might need a gentle reminder that they are safe in the present!
August 25 · 57 min
We Should Talk About: Postpartum, the Lindsay Clancy Trial, & Systems of Support
In this heavy yet necessary conversation, Megan and Amber dive deep into the nuanced layers sitting beneath the high-profile Lindsay Clancy trial. Moving past the sensationalized headlines, they unpack what it actually means to navigate postpartum mental health - exploring the massive spectrum between "baby blues" and psychosis that so often gets overlooked by our broken care systems. With Megan preparing for postpartum herself, the hosts reflect on their own motherhood journeys, the grief that quietly lives inside parenting, and how to build safety nets that go far beyond just "hoping" everything will be fine. Inside the Episode: Beyond the Headlines: Why we need to discuss systemic gaps in maternal care without sensationalizing personal tragedy. The Postpartum Spectrum: Unpacking the critical differences between passive intrusive thoughts and active mental health crises. Planning vs. Hope: What real, team-based support looks like for new parents and why the "six-week checkup" is failing mothers. Rewriting Traumatic Narratives: How to validate heavy experiences - for both children and our own inner child - to bring resolution and safety. Navigating Big Family Shifts: Megan opens up about her inner preparation as her second baby arrives, plus Amber shares advice on managing the emotional transition for older siblings. Connect With Us! How are you navigating the heavy topics in your life, and what does true support look like for your post-partum journey or mental health? Have you ever felt unsupported by the systems around you when you needed them most? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! WST Pod Instagram: We Should Talk Podcast Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website If this episode resonated with you or helped bring nuance to a difficult conversation, share it with a friend who might need a reminder that they don't have to navigate it all alone.
August 18 · 57 min
We Should Talk About: How Your Inner Child Wounds Come Out in Your Relationships
After a few weeks away with a dreamy, points funded escape to the Ritz Carlton, a chaotic first week of school, and some serious pre baby nesting, Megan and Amber are back at the mic! In this episode, the girls dive deep into the messy, protective, and vulnerable ways our inner children show up in our relationships. From "giving someone the ick" the second they show genuine interest, to full on emotional splitting when stress hits, they explore how past relational trauma shapes the way we love today. In this episode, we cover: The Hotel Sanctuary: Why taking solo time isn't "self abandonment" and the unexpected mom guilt that still creeps in. The "Good Girl" & Nesting Instincts: How control, over functioning, and rearranging the whole house become sneaky coping mechanisms during big life transitions. CPTSD, Splitting & The Ick: Why protective parts run the show during conflict, and how early attachment wounds trick our nervous systems into wanting to burn it all down. Relational Healing in Real Time: The power of "internal narration" and staying present when every cell in your body wants to fight, freeze, or isolate. Green Flags & Rewiring the Nervous System: What it actually looks like to break generational patterns and choose partners who offer safety over chaos. Hit play to hear their rawest relationship stories yet, and learn how to start self attuning when your own inner child takes the wheel! Connect With Us How do your inner child wounds or attachment patterns show up in your relationships today? Do you tend to fight, freeze, or give someone the ick when things get real? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! Pod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weshouldtalk.pod/ Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website https://www.instagram.com/connectwithmegan/ http://connect-with-megan.com/ Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website https://www.instagram.com/integrativetraumatherapist/ https://www.theintegrativetraumatherapist.com/ If this episode helped you make sense of your own relational world, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and share it with a friend who makes your cup feel full!
August 12 · 52 min
We Should Talk About: Our Millennial Oracle Readings
In this week's episode, Megan and Amber take a well-deserved breather from the heavy topics to step into a little nostalgic fun! From third-trimester updates and chaotic summer routines to pulling cards from the Everyday Millennial Oracle deck, this episode is equal parts vulnerable, hilarious, and deeply relatable. In This Episode, We Cover: Birth Plan Pivots & Nursery Scramble: Megan shares an update from her 32-week scan, the surprising medical advice that completely shifted her birth plan perspective, and how she's navigating toddler separation anxiety as the big transition approaches. Summer Survival & Setting Boundaries: Amber gets real about the bittersweet joy (and sheer exhaustion) of a full house this summer and why honoring your energy capacity is non-negotiable. Millennial Oracle Card Readings: Channeling their inner teens through 90s throwback nostalgia, Megan and Amber pull cards that hit surprisingly close to home: The past-version card that exposed Megan's former hyper-independence and perfectionism. The deeply uncomfortable "present" card that perfectly mirrors Megan's anticipation surrounding her upcoming book release. Why Amber's current card delivered a blunt, spot-on wake-up call about overcommitting and carrying "class president energy." The nostalgic childhood game card that sparked an inspiring conversation on dreaming big without a timeline. A Wild NYC Tarot Story: Megan shares an incredible throwback story about how a random NYC tarot reading unexpectedly triggered a major, life-changing family revelation. Ready for a dose of nostalgia, deep laughs, and honest chatter? Hit play now to join the conversation! Connect With Us! Instagram Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website If this episode gave you a good laugh, brought back some sweet nostalgia, or helped you give yourself permission to take a chill pill, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and share it with a friend!
August 4 · 54 min
We Should Talk About: Adult Friendships, Attachment Wounds and Noah Kahan
Have you ever looked around at your adult life and wondered why making - and keeping - female friends feels so wildly complex? In this episode, Megan and Amber drop into a high-energy recording to tackle the deep, invisible forces that shape our friendships, the scary nature of real-time vulnerability, and how music helps us grieve the connections that never got a second chance. In This Episode, We Chat About: The High-Stakes Writing Session: Amber shares a surreal, nerve-wracking moment right before recording - sitting down one-on-one with an acclaimed, powerhouse author to get a chapter of her upcoming book edited, and the chaotic battle between her inner critic and inner cheerleader that followed. The Good Girl "Rules" & Family Secrets: A deep look at the protective, inner-child parts that fire up when you start speaking your truth out loud, and the weird fear of "getting in trouble" when you break long-held family patterns of silence. 30-Year Friendships vs. Moving Around: Megan and Amber compare their totally opposite friendship journeys—from maintaining 30-year connections from age five to navigating the unique capacity limits that come with trauma, moving homes, and being a therapist. The Mother Wound in Female Dynamics: Why walking into a room and assuming women are going to naturally like and support you is a luxury not everyone grows up with, and how early dynamic patterns can show up as friction, hyper-vigilance, and brace-for-impact energy in adult relationships. Grad School as Emotional "Rehab": Why undergoing forced group therapy classes alongside fellow clinicians created the ultimate pressure cooker for lifelong, unfiltered adult bonds. The Magic of Asynchronous Connection: How simple modern tools like Marco Polo can bridge massive geographical gaps and preserve deep intimacy without the pressure of constant schedule-coordinating. Living inside Noah Kahan's The Great Divide: How his latest record hits the exact nerve of ambiguous grief, family estrangement, and the silent, unspoken messages we wish we could send to people from our past. Naming the Elephant in the Room: A simple, low-stakes relational script you can use today to call out distance in a fading friendship before it completely fizzles out. Connect With Us! How do your early family dynamics show up in your friendships today? Are you a long-term group maintainer, or is your capacity currently maxed out? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! Instagram Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website If this episode helped you make sense of your own relational world, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and share it with a friend who makes your cup feel full!
July 28 · 57 min
We Should Talk About: Family Estrangement
When trauma therapists talk about family estrangement online, it hits a massive nerve on both ends of the spectrum. Some feel deeply validated, while others throw accusations of tearing families apart. This week, Megan and Amber peel back the curtain on a deeply lonely, highly complex topic that is anything but black and white. Sharing their own raw, incredibly personal family histories for the first time, they explore what happens when the generational cycle finally stops with you. Connect With Us! Have you had to navigate the painful spectrum of low-contact to no-contact, or are you currently trying to hold a difficult boundary? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weshouldtalk.pod/ Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website If this episode spoke to your inner child, please leave us a 5-star review, subscribe, and send this to a friend who needs to know they aren't alone in their family dynamics.
July 21 · 53 min
We Should Talk About: Choosing a Therapist
Finding a therapist is a lot like shopping for the perfect pair of jeans. Sometimes you try on a pair that should fit on paper, but you're left feeling uncomfortable, restricted, and unable to breathe. This week, Megan and Amber are getting incredibly honest about what it really looks like to hunt for "the one" in the mental health world, sharing their own wildly different journeys on the client couch. In This Episode, We Chat About: The Caregiving Sandwich: Amber shares a raw update on navigating the heavy emotional toll of her family's new living dynamic, and how a major family system shift triggered a wave of unexpected physical and emotional responses. The 17-Year Relationship: Megan lifts the veil on what it is actually like to have the exact same therapist for nearly two decades—walking through college, marriage, career shifts, and profound grief together. The "Old Navy Jeans" Dilemma: Why "good enough" therapy might actually be holding you back, and how to stop blaming yourself when a practitioner's vibe just feels cold. The Therapist's Reputations: How Amber's history with parentification makes her a natural fit for the field, but why finding that same warmth and nurturing energy in her own care has been an uphill battle. What is Music Psychotherapy? Megan breaks down a fascinating, highly intimate somatic modality that goes way beyond traditional talk therapy. (Prepare to have your mind blown by how the clinical use of play and song can bypass your intellectual defenses). DMs, Consults, and High Expectations: Two game-changing, highly relational questions you should be asking on every single consultation call to see if a therapist can truly hold your story. "Can You Hold This?" A clinical look at why navigating " ruptures"—like a therapist going on maternity leave—is actually the most healing, copy-and-pasteable work you can do for the real world. Connect With Us! Have you ever had an awkward "first date" with a therapist, or have you found your forever match? Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts! We Should Talk Pod Instagram Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website
July 14 · 59 min
We Should Talk About: Therapist Content Creators
This week, Megan and Amber are pulling back the curtain on what it really means to create mental health content online. From navigating internet trolls to dealing with massive industry controversies, they are breaking down the complex boundaries of being a therapist in a hyper-visible digital world. In This Episode, We Chat About: The Reality of Trimester 3: Megan updates us on the "Herculean effort" of late-stage pregnancy, toddler sleep wins, and bracing for a chaotic house of two kids and two dogs. Summer Wrenches & Hard Adjustments: Amber shares how a broken hand disrupted her son's soccer season, plus the ongoing family transition of her in-laws moving in to help care for her father-in-law's late-stage Parkinson's. The Clinical "Split": Processing the pressure to appear perfectly regulated and have it all together online versus the real, imperfect human experience happening on the inside. Rules for Digital Vulnerability: Amber shares her personal boundary for discussing complex trauma and CPTSD on social media and why you should only share from a scar, not an open wound. Navigating Clients in the DMs: How the hosts handle clients discovering their public platforms and why therapeutic advice strictly does not belong in the Instagram DMs. The Quick Fire Breakdown The "Therapy Jeff" Debacle: Unpacking the massive viral controversy that crossed ethical lines and why the algorithm naturally favors non-nuanced, performative content. The "Block & Delete" Trend: Amber reveals a recent run-in with a famous therapist who posted harmful misinformation, only to have her comment blocked and deleted. The Myth of "Self-Healing": Why massive platforms promoting total isolationist healing miss the mark and why true, deep healing must happen relationally. Real Housewives of Rhode Island Reality Check: A deep-dive clinical breakdown of the reunion, the pain of childhood trauma invalidation, and the phrase: "People can only meet you as deeply as they've met themselves." Connect With Us! Slide into our DMs or email us your thoughts: What do you think are the pros and cons of having a therapist who is also a public content creator? Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website
July 7 · 1 hr 4 min
We Should Talk About: Reality TV
Pull up a chair and pour something strong, because the group chat is going behind the scenes of your favorite reality TV obsession. This week, Megan and Amber are stepping completely outside the traditional therapist zone to talk to someone who actually lived through the eye of the reality storm. Joining them in the studio is Chicago local Nick Thompson from Season 2 of Love Is Blind. Five years out from his time in the pods, Nick is pulling back the curtain on what happens when the cameras start rolling, the editing begins, and the internet decides it owns your story. This isn't just a gossip session - it's a deep, vulnerable look at production manipulation, the sudden loss of personal autonomy, and the real-time psychological cost of being edited for entertainment. In This Episode, We Chat About: The 10-Year Evolution of the Reality "Escalation Path": Nick tracks the trajectory of reality TV from the OG messy daytime shows of the '90s to the highly sophisticated pressure cookers of today. He drops a fascinating take on why audiences are drawn to these formats, how production values have escalated, and why cracks are finally starting to show in the foundation of major franchises. The Mechanics of the "Behind-the-Scenes" Plot: Ever wonder how a 7-minute speed date turns into a highly produced psychological drama? Nick shares the exact moment a specialized producer was brought onto his season to "curate" a specific narrative—and why a tongue-in-cheek costume moment was edited with dramatic music to make him look like the bad guy. The Mexico Turning Point & The Panic Attack Incident: Things almost always take a dramatic turn on vacation. Nick opens up about a massive, tense standoff behind the scenes involving medical protocols, isolation, and a real-time panic attack. He shares what actually happened when he took his mic off and told production they were done. The Reality Star "Celebrity Trap": The unique, frustrating paradox of being recognized everywhere you go without any of the actual perks of Hollywood celebrity. Nick breaks down the common financial misconceptions of the industry, revealing the massive gap between what a major network pulls in versus what the cast is actually paid per week to disrupt their lives. Hitting Rock Bottom After the Edit: Nick opens up about Men's Mental Health Awareness Month and the absolute storm of late 2022. From a highly publicized divorce leaked by TMZ to the physical shock of his very first panic attack on a city street, he shares what it feels like when life is happening to you and you lose all personal autonomy. The Generational Shift in Raising Sons: Megan, Amber, and Nick reflect on how millennial parenting is changing the game for young boys. From celebrating emotional expression to Nick's own 10-year-old nephew being proudly supported in counseling, they discuss breaking the cycle of processing everything through the lens of anger or irritation. Unpacking the Entertainment Industry The Truth About "Redemption Stories": Nick reveals how production handles cast members who are hesitant to return for follow-up episodes. Discover the exact promises made to get him and his ex back on camera for After the Altar, and how the final edit still managed to pull the rug out from under them. The Parasocial Echo Chamber: A serious look at the dangerous side of reality TV commentary. Nick discusses the massive impact of Reddit rumors, "lowest common denominator" content creation, and why licensed professionals need to tread very carefully when using their clinical expertise to analyze highly edited footage. The Ethics of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Amber and Nick dive into the intense, visible psychological distress on display in modern reality hits. They confront a heavy question: how do we protect the children involved in these shows when they are legally unable to provide informed consent? Stay until the end to hear what's saving each of our lives lately! Connect With Nick! If you want to support Nick's incredible advocacy work for reality cast members and explore his journey deeper, check out his platforms below: Podcast: Eyes Wide Open with Nick Thompson (Available on all podcast platforms and YouTube) The UCAN Foundation: (Unscripted Cast Advocacy Network - providing independent mental health services, legal support, and fighting for a modernized code of ethics in entertainment) Instagram Connect With Us! We are so incredibly grateful to be building this community with you. Slide into our DMs, share this episode with a friend who loves the psychological breakdown of pop culture, and let us know: Does knowing how the reality TV sausage is made change how you watch it? Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website
June 30 · 57 min
We Should Talk About: Pretending We're Fine
Today, the girls are dodging midwestern tornado warnings and diving straight into the heavy stuff: why we default to "I'm fine" when we are actually completely overwhelmed, and the family dynamics that teach us to hide our needs. Plus, they unpack the explosive Summer House reunion from a purely psychological perspective—because nothing says "trauma response" like intense reality TV chemistry. In this episode: Tornado warnings at Wrigley Field and the "mid-30s vibe" of backyard brisket smoking Megan's intense anxious book-spiral and the vulnerable whiplash of stepping back into the public eye The "Strong Child" trap: How being a capable kid can be misread as a rejection of parental care Relational healing and the supreme satisfaction of having a partner who can call out your "I'm fine" BS Summer House reunion breakdown: Amanda and West's cold detachment, Ciara's self-aware execution, and why "falling in love by accident" isn't a thing The opposite of regulation: Why the "zen, emotionless money coach" on Real Housewives is setting off therapeutic red flags Navigating perfectionism and perceived failures Connect With Us! We are so incredibly grateful to be building this community with you. Since this is a two-way street, we want to know: What do you want us to talk about next? Drop into our DMs, say hi, and join the group chat! If you love what you're hearing, do "all the things"—subscribe, leave a comment, and share it with a friend who needs a little less heaviness and a lot more connection today. Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website Bookmark us for next week, because the text messages are being sent, and the girls might just be bringing a special Chicago local and Love Is Blind alum onto the pod to dissect reality TV mental health and the desperate need for an on-set therapist room!
June 23 · 51 min
We Should Talk About: Us
Two therapists. Zero pretense. All the good stuff. Megan Walsh and Amber Trejo met in the DMs and decided the world needed a podcast that felt less like a lecture and more like texting your most self-aware friend. This is that podcast. In the debut episode, they pull back the curtain on their real lives — because yes, your therapist has issues too, and that's kind of the whole point. In this episode: How We Should Talk was born (and the chaotic name options that didn't make it) Megan's pregnancy life: bumpy road to baby #2, a wild toddler, and trying to write a book while exhausted Amber's tween milestone: a rated-R movie experiment with her 12-year-old and the boundary moment that followed Raising boys who feel things — and why that matters more than we talk about The "excitement-dread" spiral of writing a book and staring at a blank screen Why showing up vulnerable online can quietly poke at old wounds What comfort TV shows we are watching Connect With Us! We are so incredibly grateful to be building this community with you. Since this is a two-way street, we want to know: What do you want us to talk about next? Drop into our DMs, say hi, and join the group chat! If you love what you're hearing, do "all the things" - subscribe, leave a comment, and share it with a friend who needs a little less heaviness and a lot more connection today. Megan Walsh: Instagram / Website Amber Trejo: Instagram / Website Bookmark us for next week, because a major reality TV reunion drops, Amber is bingeing the season to catch up, and we are going deep into reality TV attachment trauma responses!

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