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The Wise and the Wherefores

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The Wise and the Wherefores is a podcast from The Tablet, the international Catholic weekly and is hosted by Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet, who in the latest series is talking with Liz Dodd.

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  • September 8 · 51 min

    Nun girl summer – what did it mean, what was it like?

    Ruth and Liz in this episode speak to Gemma Simmonds CJ about nun girl summer. They also discuss the tragedy in Nepal, and the Catholicism of Andy Burnham. Sister Liz Dodd was talking in the days running up to taking her final vows as a fully-professed sister in the Sisters of St Joseph of Peace. Sister Gemma has been talking and writing over the summer about the latest social media viral trend, nun girl summer. This includes an article in the latest print issue of The Tablet that you can read here and although it is paywalled, by signing up you can get some articles for free. https://www.thetablet.co.uk/features/nun-girl-summer-you-are-so-good-at-that/ We are now on Substack for free with our twice-weekly newsletters, and in these you can access our latest subscription issue, five issues for just £5. You can also find that offer here.

  • March 12 · 46 min

    Authors Liz Dodd and Rhidian Brook talk Lent with Ruth Gledhill

    Sister Liz Dodd CSJP and writer Rhidian Brook both have Lent books out. Easter in Disguise by Liz and Notes on an Execution by Rhidian have both been picked up by parishes around the country to study and think about at Lent group gatherings. Ruth Gledhill is assistant editor of The Tablet, and her own parish is studying Rhidian’s book. Here, she talks to both authors about the enduring Lenten practices that make this time of year so fruitful for all those who are on a Christian journey.

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  • February 12 · 22 min

    New Archbishop of Westminster Richard Moth talks to The Tablet

    In this bonus episode of The Wise and the Wherefores, Ruth Gledhill and The Tablet’s Plater Trust intern Aili Winstanley Channer went to Archbishop’s House, Westminster to interview Archbishop Richard Moth ahead of his installation as Archbishop of Westminster at the cathedral on Saturday. ‘There’s a word I always put with leadership, which is service,’ Richard Moth told The Tablet in an interview ahead of his installation as Archbishop of Westminster on Saturday. Archbishop Richard Moth said the Church must continue to use her voice to ‘bring the light of the gospel and the light of Christ, into the world we are living in’ at this point in history, in the context of contemporary national and international challenges. He said, ‘This is what the Church has always been about. That never changes. What changes is the circumstance. The circumstance of this year is very different from the circumstance of ten years ago or even two.’ Read the online news story Subscribe to The Tablet

  • S2 · E1
    February 10 · 49 min

    Ruth and Liz discuss Liz’s new Lent book – and the future of liberalism

    This is our first podcast of 2026 and we start by discussing Sister Liz’s Lent book, Easter in Disguise, published by Bloomsbury. There will be more on this in our next podcast as well, but basically, Liz believes there is more, lots more, to Lent than giving up chocolate! For the first time also, we have a guest and we hope that this will be a regular feature of The Wise and the Wherefores as we move forwards into our second season. Where did last year go so fast? So, in this week’s Tablet, our cover is by theologian, writer and Anglican ordinand Theo Hobson. Headlined ‘The dark night of liberalism’, Theo unpacks why the word ‘liberal’ has become associated with a demand for absolute personal autonomy and an unregulated economic free-for-all. Might Christian ideas be what is needed to create a space that brings freedom of conscience together with the common good? Read Theo’s feature here: https://www.thetablet.co.uk/features/the-dark-night-of-liberalism/ Subscribe to The Tablet https://www.thetablet.co.uk/subscribe/ Buy Easter in Disguise by Sister Liz Dodd CSJP, published by Bloomsbury, from The Tablet Bookshop. Discount available if you cite The Tablet, for the next two months. 020 7799 4064 or email bookshop@chbookshop.co.uk.

  • S1 · E7
    Dec 16, 2025 · 41 min

    A new Archbishop of Westminster, women deacons in the Catholic Church and embracing Advent

    In the latest episode of The Tablet podcast, The Wise and the Wherefores, Ruth Gledhill and Liz Dodd discuss the Westminster succession as well as the latest pronouncement on women deacons. They also talk about how they are both responding to the season of Advent. Takeaways The delay in appointing a new Archbishop of Westminster reflects broader vacancies in the church. Rumours about potential candidates for the Archbishop position include Richard Moth, John Wilson, and Bernard Longley. The ordination of women deacons remains a contentious issue within the church, with many feeling disappointed by the lack of progress. There is a growing sentiment that the church is not keeping pace with societal changes regarding women’s roles. The discussion around the new Archbishop may indicate the church’s priorities under Pope Leo. Advent is seen as a time for preparation and reflection, with a focus on social justice this year. Liz’s new book aims to connect Lenten spirituality with social justice themes. The importance of community and shared experiences in understanding faith is emphasised. The church's response to women's ordination reflects deeper issues of gender equality within its hierarchy. The conversation highlights the need for the church to adapt and respond to contemporary issues. Liz Dodd’s new book, Easter in Disguise, is the 2026 Lent book from Bloomsbury.

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  • S1 · E6
    Oct 31, 2025 · 50 min

    Pope Leo and Dilexi te, robot vacuum cleaners, sport and more

    In this conversation, Ruth Gledhill and Liz Dodd discuss the recent developments in LGBTQI inclusion within the Church, particularly focusing on the findings from a conference in Amsterdam. They explore the impact of Pope Francis on the acceptance of LGBTQI individuals in the Catholic Church and delve into the implications of Pope Leo's new document, Dilexi te. They also touch on the intersection of technology and morality, the role of women in the church, and personal reflections on how technology influences faith and community. Takeaways The Catholic Church in England and Wales is surprisingly inclusive for LGBTQI individuals. Grassroots movements play a crucial role in fostering inclusivity within the church. Pope Francis's language has significantly impacted the treatment of LGBTQI Catholics. Pope Leo's document, Delexi te, is seen as a powerful and radical statement. The intertwining of finance and hate speech is a growing concern. The pride flag is viewed as a symbol of identity and devotion, not just politics. Technology can enhance community support and social justice efforts. The moral implications of technology, such as AI, are complex and multifaceted. Women are increasingly taking on leadership roles within the church. Personal connections to technology can shape our understanding of morality and ethics. Sound Bites "England and Wales is among the most inclusive." "I think technology can be used for human flourishing." "If your robot vacuum cleaner unionises, great!"

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  • S1 · E4
    Jul 18, 2025 · 38 min

    Pope Leo XIV – fit for Rome, on the tennis court and in the gym as well!

    Ruth Gledhill and Sister Liz Dodd discuss the recent election of Pope Leo and the implications of his leadership style for the Catholic Church. They explore initial reactions to his election, the challenges he faces, particularly regarding the Latin Mass, and the significance of women's roles within the Church. The conversation also touches on Sister Liz's upcoming travels, the influence of Chicago on Pope Leo's formation, and the intersection of physical fitness and spirituality in leadership. Additionally, they discuss the importance of fundraising for social justice causes, particularly in light of the current situation in Gaza, and how running serves as a meditative practice for both hosts. Takeaways: Pope Leo's election had a postive reception worldwide. His leadership style aims to bridge divides within the Church. Women in the Church are increasingly being recognized in leadership roles. The Latin Mass remains a contentious issue for Pope Leo's papacy. Sister Liz emphasises the importance of community and social justice. Physical fitness is intertwined with spiritual well-being. Running serves as a form of prayer and meditation for Sister Liz. The significance of cathedrals in the Catholic faith is highlighted. Pope Leo's background in Chicago may influence his approach to leadership. Fundraising for Gaza reflects a commitment to social justice. To read Liz and Ruth in The Tablet, and the many other writers in news, features, arts, books and more, visit thetablet.co.uk. See our latest subscription offers here.

  • S1 · E3
    Apr 29, 2025 · 41 min

    Pope Francis – his legacy, and the coming conclave

    Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet and Liz Dodd CSJP discuss for the latest Tablet podcast, The Wise and the Wherefores, the legacy of Pope Francis and who might emerge as his successor in the coming conclave.See all our coverage of this hugely significant moment for the Catholic Church and the wider world and sign up for our twice-weekly free newsletters at https://thetablet.co.ukSubscribe at http://thetablet.co.uk/subscribe

  • S1 · E2
    Mar 4, 2025 · 26 min

    Pope Francis is in hospital – what this means for the Church and the world

    In this episode of the Tablet podcast, Ruth Gledhill of The Tablet and Sister Liz Dodd CSJP discuss the recent health concerns surrounding Pope Francis and the implications for the Catholic Church and the world. They explore the transparency of the Vatican regarding the Pope's health, the significance of his leadership in the current political climate, and the role of faith in addressing social issues. The conversation also touches on a new teaching document from the bishops of England and Wales, emphasizing the need for social action and the church's response to contemporary challenges.

  • Feb 6, 2025 · 34 min

    The Tablet Podcast with Ruth Gledhill and Liz Dodd, Episode One: women's ordination, Trump, best Catholic films

    Ruth Gledhill and Liz Dodd kick off the first podcast in our new season, a series of ten, with a discussion on women in the Catholic Church, Donald Trump – and top Catholic movies. Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet and former religion correspondent of The Times and Liz Dodd, a former Tablet journalist who is now a sister with St Joseph of Peace (CSJP), discuss the latest developments on women in the Catholic Church, Donald Trump in the US and recent content in The Tablet such as the top Catholic movies. Liz’s latest Tablet column, on The Traitors and more. https://www.thetablet.co.uk/columnists/i-read-recently-the-traitors-is-edited-backwards-which-is-what-makes-it-so-compelling/ The Tablet spread on top 20 Catholic movies https://www.thetablet.co.uk/arts/the-top-20-catholic-movies/ Subscribe to The Tablet https://www.thetablet.co.uk/subscribe/ The Tablet podcast, The Wise and the Wherefores, is available on all the usual platforms

  • Dec 12, 2024 · 35 min

    Lorraine Currie of Sciaf talks to Ruth Gledhill about existing projects and future plans for Scotland’s international aid charity

    Earlier this year, Lorraine Currie was appointed the new chief executive of Sciaf. In this podcast for The Tablet, assistant editor Ruth Gledhill talks to Lorraine about her story of how she progressed into international development, of the work being done in the field by Sciaf and of exciting plans for the future. You can find out more about Sciaf, including how to donate to the charity’s Advent appeal, here. Subscribe to The Tablet, the international Catholic weekly, here.

  • Nov 15, 2024 · 28 min

    Trump, Catholicism and the US elections

    To the surprise and disappointment of many on the left, Donald Trump won the US election. What part did Catholics play in this? And what does this mean for the Democrats, going forward? In our latest podcast, and the first of a series on this subject, Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet, talks to Michael Sean Winters, The Tablet’s US correspondent and senior journalist at National Catholic Reporter. You can find this podcast on all the usual outlets, including Spotify and Apple.

  • Sep 6, 2024 · 38 min

    The Season of Creation and Laudato Si’ – a view from the US in this election year

    The environment is a key platform of the papacy of Francis and his encyclical will form a significant part of his legacy over decades if not centuries. So why has Laudato Si’ not taken root in the US as it has in the UK and elsewhere? Could one reason be the polarisation of society and Church where climate change has itself become so politicised? Yet the lack of engagement with Laudato Si’ is not along Democrat-Republican lines, it seems to cross the political divide. At the root of it is how to bring the common good into debate in a society that, across all parties, is fundamentally libertarian, whether in regards to economics or personal morality. In this podcast, Michael Sean Winters and Sebastian Gomes talk to Tablet assistant editor Ruth Gledhill about a conference Michael helped organise on the encyclical, and from which Sebastian, of America magazine, put together a video which has some of the answers and may contain clues as to how we can all continue to progress this cause as we engage this month of September with this year’s Season of Creation. The radical new direction that is being brought to “The Way Forward” gatherings is bringing bishops, theologians and lay leaders together around the table. This podcast emerges from the third such gathering at the University of San Diego in February 2024. The aim is to foster honest dialogue within the Catholic Church and to promote the path set out by the Second Vatican Council and Pope Francis. In this year’s meeting the focus was on implementing Francis’s landmark encyclical on care of the earth, Laudato Si’. Watch the video here. This second video is from the second “Way Forward” initiative in 2023, on synodality. Michael Sean Winters is a columnist with the National Catholic Reporter and he is the U.S. correspondent for The Tablet. He is also a fellow at the Center for Catholic Studies at Sacred Heart University. His articles have been published by the New York Times magazine, New Republic, America, and other publications. He is one of the organisers of the Way Forward gatherings. The first was at Loyola University Chicago, and focused on Pope Francis and the ecclesiology of Vatican II. The second was at Boston College and focused on synodality. The most recent gathering was at the University of San Diego and focused on Laudato Si’. In addition to the Center for Catholic Studies at Sacred Heart University, the gatherings are co-sponsored by the Boisi Center at Boston College, the Center for Religion and Culture at Fordham University and the Hank Center at Loyola Chicago. Sebastian Gomes is Executive Editor of Audio and Video at America Magazine, the Jesuit media organization based in New York City. He directed the film on “The Way Forward” conference on Laudao Si’, that took place in San Diego in February 2024. Connect with Fordham CRC: Visit Fordham CRC WEBSITE: Like Fordham CRC on FACEBOOK: / fordhamcrc Follow Fordham CRC on TWITTER: https://x.com/CRCfordham

  • Jul 26, 2024 · 21 min

    Pilgrimage to Patmos with Fr Nicholas King SJ

    In September, with JC Journeys, we are going on pilgrimage to Patmos, led by Fr Nicholas King SJ. In this podcast, Ruth Gledhill of The Tablet talks to Fr King about this beautiful island and its place and meaning in the Bible. On this trip, pilgrims can visit the Cave of Revelation, the Monastery of St John and there will be a daily Mass, celebrated outside wherever possible.

  • Jun 7, 2024 · 21 min

    Making peace in the past, present and future – Catholic bishops on the way forward

    Catholic bishops have called for new treaties to regulate weaponised drones and lethal autonomous weapons systems. In a new paper, “Called to be Peacemakers”, the bishops of England and Wales also call for a “global moratorium” on lethal autonomous weapons systems. In this podcast, Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet, talks to Bishop William Kenney, one of the authors, about the challenges and opportunities facing the Catholic Church and wider community on the latest weapons technologies, the continuing debate over nuclear deterrence, and what we can all do to help. Read the latest Tablet article on the paper here.

  • May 10, 2024 · 33 min

    Pope Francis, Ukraine and just war theory

    Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet, discusses with Fr Alban McCoy OFM Conv the question of Pope Francis and his approach to the war in Ukraine, and where this fits in the context of just war theory.

  • Mar 5, 2024 · 34 min

    Why oh why, Aquinas

    Following on from Plato and Socrates, in the second in our series on why truth still matters, Fr Alban McCoy, OFM Conv, and Ruth Gledhill, assistant editor of The Tablet, discuss St Thomas Aquinas, 750 years after his death.

  • Feb 27, 2024 · 26 min

    Does truth still matter?

    Journalist Ruth Gledhill is in conversation with Catholic priest, philosopher and theologian Fr Alban McCoy OFM Conv in the first in a new series of podcasts. Subscribe to The Tablet.

  • Dec 7, 2023 · 1 hr 4 min

    The Tablet Book Club – ‘A Faithful Spy’ with author Jimmy Burns and broadcaster Emily Buchanan

    Award-winning writer and former Financial Times journalist Jimmy Burns’ latest book A Faithful Spy, based on previously undisclosed personal private papers of former MI6 and MI5 officer, Walter Bell, gives a remarkable insight into the working of British Intelligence. In this Tablet podcast, Emily Buchanan of the BBC talks to Jimmy Burns about the book and some of the startling things that he uncovered during his research. In this article in The Tablet Jimmy Burns gives further insight into the life of Walter Bell.

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