The Next Aid Station

Jake Kilgore

Join us while we dive into the wild world of ultrarunning! Jake and Mick go over important ultramarathon happening each week while giving their predictions on what they think will go down.

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20 episodes
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Wednesday · 1 hr 42 min
Speedgoat 50k and the Peptide Police
This week, we recap a scorching Speedgoat weekend, discuss race logistics after reports of water shortages, question whether AI is becoming less reliable, and look at the growing impact of UTMB on Chamonix. We also dive into the ongoing debate surrounding BPC-157, WADA regulations, and whether ultra running has the right approach to banned substances. Join our Fantasy Freetrail League: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/leagues/join/f105b635ed Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 10% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 22 · 1 hr 40 min
Overfueling Destroyed my 100-Mile Attempt
Jake and Mick recap a chaotic week in trail running, including the aftermath of Jake's DC Peaks 100-mile DNF. After looking back at the race, Jake thinks he may have finally figured out exactly what went wrong: a combination of heat, hydration, and a fueling plan that didn't quite work the way he thought it would. The guys break down the math behind ultra fueling, discuss how even experienced runners can make basic mistakes, and talk about what they would do differently next time. They also dive into a new 200-mile race, the challenges of training for 40,000 feet of climbing, the future of trail running, and plenty of other questionable topics along the way. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 15 · 1 hr 35 min
Race Cancellations, Hardrock Records & a DC Peaks 100 Test-Run
You trained for months, booked the travel, paid the entry fee—and then the race gets cancelled. Now what? This week, Jake and Mick break down race cancellations, what recourse runners actually have, and where the responsibility falls when an event never reaches the starting line. Then we recap a historic Hardrock 100. Ludovic Pommeret delivered a third straight victory while setting a new overall course record, and Courtney Dauwalter returned to the top of the women’s race with a new clockwise course record. We cover the biggest performances, surprises, and takeaways from another wild weekend in Silverton. Finally, Jake is taking on the DC Peaks 100 in the middle of a Utah heat wave. Come support him this week as he tries to hit a sub 24 hour finish on our brand new course! Partners Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes. Use code NextAidStation for 15% off. Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time. 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #Ultrarunning #Hardrock100 #DCPeaks100
July 8 · 1 hr 11 min
Taylor Spike on Addiction, Adventure, and 300 Miles
Taylor Spike joins the podcast to share the story behind his 300-mile Arizona Monster finish, what he learned from leading much of the race, and why the miles themselves aren't the most meaningful part of the journey. The conversation goes far beyond racing as Taylor opens up about sobriety, building the Spike Camp community, the importance of belonging, and how adventure can become a powerful tool for personal growth. Whether you're an ultrarunner or just someone looking for purpose through challenge, this is a conversation you won't want to miss. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 1 · 1 hr 49 min
Hardrock in Question? A Call with Jeff Browning
Western States may be in the books, but the ultrarunning world isn't slowing down. Jake and Mick discuss the uncertainty surrounding Hardrock, what the conditions could mean for this year's race, and the latest news leading into one of the sport's most iconic events. Later in the episode, they call Jeff Browning, fresh off his record-breaking performance at Western States, where he became the fastest 50+ finisher in race history. Jeff reflects on his race, the mindset behind chasing a record, how Cocodona affected his preparation, and what lies ahead as Hardrock quickly approaches. Whether you're following Hardrock, reliving Western States, or just love hearing from one of the sport's most accomplished veterans, this is an episode you won't want to miss. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 23 · 2 hr 29 min
WS100 Preview: Why Jim Won't Win
It's Western States week, which means every trail running podcast, YouTube channel, and media outlet is releasing preview content.So naturally, we decided to do the same.This week, Jake and Mick break down the men's and women's races, make a few bold predictions, discuss whether anyone can beat Jim Walmsley, and explain why Hans Troyer might be the future of the sport. Along the way, they talk race strategy, media overload, and what makes Western States the biggest event in trail running.Whether you're following every split or just trying to survive race week content, we've got you covered.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 17 · 1 hr 33 min
Broken Arrow is paying HOW much???
Broken Arrow weekend has arrived, and with TrailCon and Western States right around the corner, trail running is entering one of its biggest stretches of the year. This week, Jake and Mick break down the Broken Arrow 23K and 46K fields, discuss the eye-popping prize money on the line, make Fantasy Free Trail picks, and talk about the athletes they'll be watching throughout the weekend. They also discuss recent race results, the Bear 100 qualifier series, TrailCon, Western States storylines, and a surprisingly intense conversation about prize money distribution in professional trail running. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 10 · 1 hr 25 min
Rise and Fall of the Meat 🥩
Jake and Mick reflect on the recent controversy surrounding the "Here for the Men's Meat" shirt, the conversations it sparked, and the decision to retire the design. They discuss community feedback, navigating disagreement online, and the challenges of balancing intent with impact.They also cover Western States storylines and other topics from around the trail running world.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 3 · 1 hr 23 min
Pete's Meats, Juneteenth, and Other Important Trail Running Topics
Mick is finally back, and things go off the rails almost immediately. We cover the Cam and Sage drama, the absurd stack-height controversy from a college track championship, why trail running attracts so many rule enthusiasts, Western States storylines, Pete's Meats, and somehow end up discussing Juneteenth. Just another normal episode of The Next Aid Station. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 25 · 1 hr 5 min
Jeff Pelletier and the Future of Ultrarunning Content Creation
Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Kilian Korth 👤 Guest: Jeff Pelletier #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 22 · 1 hr 1 min
Catching up with Manuela Vilaseca — The Triple Crown Record Holder
Manuela Vilaseca is the current Triple Crown of 200s record holder. In this episode, we chat about what drew her to attempt the triple crown, why she often prefers no crew or pacers, and her plans for the future. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyondUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (⁠https://redmond.life/⁠)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (⁠https://rockstarenergy.com/⁠)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (⁠https://1-home.com/⁠)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore 👤 Guest: Manuela Vilaseca#Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 20 · 1 hr 17 min
Sally McRae on Cocodona and The Business of Ultrarunning
In this episode, we talk Cocodona, Badwater 135, and the business of ultrarunning. Sally talks about her experience with Nike Trail, where she'll go next, and gives advice to emerging trail athletes on how to work with brands without losing yourself. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore 👤 Guest: Sally McRae #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 15 · 1 hr 39 min
Cocodona 250 Recap | Dirt Naps, Cooked Quads, and a 73 Hour Finish!
This episode of The Next Aid Station picks up just after Jake survived Cocodona 250 in a little over 73 hours, finishing 14th male and looking like a man who had legally died sometime around mile 130. Jake and Mick unpack the chaos of race week, the crowds, and the live-stream madness. The boys also dive into the week’s biggest trail running drama: Sage Canaday vs. “that hybrid athlete influencer who likes bow hunting,” Francesco Puppi declaring 200-milers “not real trail running,” and the unofficial finisher controversy that had ultra runners debating whether one minute past cutoff means you ran 250 miles… or apparently didn’t. Somewhere in the middle of all that are dirt naps, blown quads at mile 40, fence ladders from hell, emergency hot dogs used as recovery science, and Jamil Coury appearing over sleeping runners at aid stations like a trail-running guardian angel. It’s part race recap, part group therapy, and part evidence that ultrarunners should probably be supervised. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning
May 12 · 1 hr 9 min
Pre-Cocodona Vibes with Kilian Korth (The King of 200s)
Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyondUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore 👤 Guest: Kilian Korth#Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 9 · 1 hr 14 min
Pre-Race with the Cocodona 250 Champs
Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyondUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Kilian Korth 👤 Guest: Rachel Entrekin#Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 1 · 2 hr 47 min
Cocodona 250 Preview with Finn Melanson
Cocodona Week Kicks Off with Finn Melanson (Singletrack) Jake and Mick sit down with Finn Melanson for a loose, wide-ranging conversation ahead of the Cocodona 250. We break down our full top 10 picks for the men's and women's fields. Finn shares the story behind "The Finisher," his Jasmin Paris Barkley film, nd what's next for trail documentaries. The realities of race directing through bad weather And a "Keep Five, Cut Five" game pitting Jake against the Cocodona field. Plus tangents on the NBA playoffs, Utah Mammoth hockey, and why local community matters more than chasing national reach. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison 👤 Guest: Finn Melanson (@singletrack) #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
April 24 · 1 hr 12 min
The One Where We Got Cancelled (And a New Sponsor)
We're back with a big sponsor announcement (live unboxing inside), full picks for Canyons 100k and Madeira, and a debate on whether Boston should count as a record-eligible marathon after Korir's 2:01:52.Plus: the Nike drama, backyard ultras, and why certain agents don't want their runners on this podcast.Use code NEXTAIDSTATION for 15% off our new sponsor.
April 7 · 1 hr 6 min
The Secret behind Edher Ramirez podiumed Mammoth 200 & Cocodona 250 in the same year
He drank from a lake, ran down podium spots at 4am, and now has one of the craziest ultra race calendars of the year.
April 2 · 43 min
Hayden Hawks’ protégé, Coleman Cragun
What happens when a rookie ultra runner shows up to the biggest races… and starts beating pros? In this episode of Next Aid Station, we sit down in St. George with Coleman Cragun, one of the fastest rising names in trail running and ultrarunning. In his first year as an ultra runner, Coleman finished top 10 at major races like Canyons 50K, Broken Arrow, Speedgoat, Kodiak, and Chiang Mai… all while working a full-time job and training 20–30 hours a week. We break down his insane rookie season, what it’s like racing against the best in the world, and why he still doesn’t have a sponsor. In this episode: How Coleman Cragun went from SUU walk-on to elite trail runner Training with Hayden Hawks in Utah Losing all his gels at the start of a race… and still finishing top 5 His first 100K experience at Black Canyon Why most ultra runners still have full-time jobs The truth about sponsorships in trail running Strategy shifts from surviving races to competing for podiums If you’re into trail running, ultramarathons, UTMB, 50K and 100K racing, or want to understand what it takes to compete at the highest level, this episode delivers.
March 19 · 2 hr 14 min
The LOST Kilian Korth Episode!
We found/fixed/recovered somewhat the Kilian Korth episode that we recorded about a month ago. This is one of our favorites recently because Kilian is the best hang. We kicked it with him for hours just talking everything sports, ultrarunning, olympics, you name it. Don't miss this episode!!!!