The Next Aid Station

Jake Kilgore

Join us while we dive into the wild world of ultrarunning! Jake and Mick go over important ultramarathon happening each week while giving their predictions on what they think will go down.

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September 15 · 1 hr 20 min
HYROX 💩 and Hardrock Qualifiers
This week, we’re talking about one of the wildest HYROX stories imaginable: an athlete sh*tting herself mid-race and somehow continuing on. From there, we dive into the surprisingly small number of races that can qualify you for Hardrock 100, what it actually takes for a race to become a Hardrock qualifier, and why the qualification system is so selective. Plus, Wasatch 100, race tracking, DC Peaks, and plenty of September 100-mile race talk. Join our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Fantasy Freetrail League⁠⁠⁠⁠. Partners: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Relyte⁠⁠⁠⁠: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠⁠⁠Play On Relief:⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠⁠⁠Rockstar Energy⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1Home⁠⁠⁠⁠: Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
September 10 · 1 hr 9 min
Dark Divide Recap: Injuries, Wrong Turns, and Questionable Decisions
This week, Jake recaps the Dark Divide 100—a brutally remote race where just about everything that could go wrong seemed to go wrong. From questionable navigation and extra miles to gear failures, brutal weather, and a late-race crash, it was anything but a straightforward 100-mile finish.The guys also break down the surprisingly runnable Dark Divide course, look ahead to Wasatch 100, and get into the annual debate over who deserves to be Trail Runner of the Year. Plus, the usual questionable tangents along the way. Contribute to ⁠Jeff Brownings GoFundMe⁠ Join our ⁠⁠⁠Fantasy Freetrail League⁠⁠⁠. Partners: ⁠⁠⁠Relyte⁠⁠⁠: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠⁠Play On Relief:⁠⁠⁠ Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠⁠Rockstar Energy⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1Home⁠⁠⁠: Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
September 2 · 2 hr 40 min
UTMB Recap and the Ultra Runner of the Year Debate
This week, the guys recap UTMB, debate just how much UTMB coverage is too much, and ask the question everyone apparently has an opinion on: who is actually the best female trail runner in the world? Rachel’s monster season gets put up against some serious competition. They also discuss the surprising cancellation of the Revel Mount Charleston Marathon—with the race called off seven months out and organizers reportedly keeping registration fees—and dig into what that says about the business of putting on races. Plus: more UTMB talk, race predictions, and the usual collection of questionable opinions. Contribute to Jeff Brownings GoFundMe Join our ⁠⁠Fantasy Freetrail League⁠⁠. Partners: ⁠⁠Relyte⁠⁠: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠Play On Relief:⁠⁠ Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠⁠Rockstar Energy⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1Home⁠⁠: Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
August 26 · 1 hr 41 min
UTMB Week, Bear Attacks, and the Time Jake Paced Mick...Then Dropped Him
UTMB week is here, and we’re breaking down one of the biggest stretches of trail running all year. This week, we dive into the stacked fields at OCC, CCC, UTMB, and the races surrounding trail running’s biggest week, make our Fantasy Free Trail picks, and debate some of the toughest matchups on the board. We also get into Claire Rhodes’ terrifying brown bear attack in Alaska, our upcoming HYROX race, what happens when your pacer leaves you behind at the Bear 100, and the possibility of showing up to a 100-miler with no crew, no pacer, and nothing but a few drop bags. Plus, we pitch a new series: Next Aid Station Cribs, where we tour the glamorous lives, closets, Subarus, and questionable living situations of trail runners. Join us for race predictions, trail running news, questionable analysis, and everything else happening at the Next Aid Station. Join our ⁠Fantasy Freetrail League⁠. Partners: ⁠Relyte⁠: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠Play On Relief:⁠ Use code NextAidStation for 15% off ⁠Rockstar Energy⁠ ⁠1Home⁠: Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
August 19 · 2 hr 5 min
Aaron Kubala is Chasing Down Kilian, and Hardrock's New Transgender Policy
This week, Jake and Mick sit down with Aaron Kubala, who's in the middle of an incredible run at the Triple Crown of 200s—and chasing a record that could put his name alongside one of the biggest names in ultrarunning. But before he can get to Moab, Aaron had to survive Bigfoot 200, where a bizarre situation with his pacer resulted in a three-hour penalty. Aaron walks the guys through exactly what happened, how he handled losing three hours deep into a 200-mile race, and why he still believes the Triple Crown record is within reach. The guys also discuss the growing debate around Hardrock's transgender and non-binary participation policy, what the policy actually says, and some of the questions it raises for ultrarunning as the sport continues to evolve. Plus, plenty of discussion about the Triple Crown, 200-mile racing, and what it takes to chase records at the absolute limits of the sport. Join our Fantasy Freetrail League. Partners: Relyte: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off Play On Relief: Use code NextAidStation for 15% off Rockstar Energy 1Home: Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
August 12 · 1 hr 21 min
What do Enes Kanter, Sophie Cunningham, & Wiz Khalifa all have in common?
This week, Jake and Mick dive into another round of trail running conversations, from the future of the sport to some of the stranger things happening outside of it. They talk about the growing popularity of trail running, whether the sport is becoming too serious and too snobby, and the surprising arrival of Wiz Khalifa as the newest member of the running community. They also discuss Wyoming Range, the challenges of 100-mile races, the future of human longevity, and where trail running might be headed as the sport continues to grow. Plus, plenty of opinions, tangents, and questionable ideas along the way. Join our Fantasy Freetrail League: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/leagues/join/f105b635ed Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 10% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
August 6 · 1 hr 10 min
The Episode About Nothing 🤷🏼‍♂️
Badwater, bib transfers, race rules, live tracking, and the questionable state of trail running media—this week, Jake and Mick have plenty to argue about. They break down Badwater 135 and debate whether some of the sport's biggest races are getting too complicated, whether runners should be able to freely transfer race entries, and whether live tracking and constant updates actually make races better. They also dive into the growing European trail scene, try to figure out what race they're even talking about, and discuss the mysterious listeners who apparently refuse to publicly acknowledge that they listen to the podcast. Plus, the usual trail running tangents, questionable opinions, and plenty of stuff that probably shouldn't have made it onto the internet. Join our Fantasy Freetrail League: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/leagues/join/f105b635ed Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 10% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 29 · 1 hr 42 min
Speedgoat 50k and the Peptide Police
This week, we recap a scorching Speedgoat weekend, discuss race logistics after reports of water shortages, question whether AI is becoming less reliable, and look at the growing impact of UTMB on Chamonix. We also dive into the ongoing debate surrounding BPC-157, WADA regulations, and whether ultra running has the right approach to banned substances. Join our Fantasy Freetrail League: https://fantasy.freetrail.com/leagues/join/f105b635ed Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 10% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 22 · 1 hr 40 min
Overfueling Destroyed my 100-Mile Attempt
Jake and Mick recap a chaotic week in trail running, including the aftermath of Jake's DC Peaks 100-mile DNF. After looking back at the race, Jake thinks he may have finally figured out exactly what went wrong: a combination of heat, hydration, and a fueling plan that didn't quite work the way he thought it would. The guys break down the math behind ultra fueling, discuss how even experienced runners can make basic mistakes, and talk about what they would do differently next time. They also dive into a new 200-mile race, the challenges of training for 40,000 feet of climbing, the future of trail running, and plenty of other questionable topics along the way. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 15 · 1 hr 35 min
Race Cancellations, Hardrock Records & a DC Peaks 100 Test-Run
You trained for months, booked the travel, paid the entry fee—and then the race gets cancelled. Now what? This week, Jake and Mick break down race cancellations, what recourse runners actually have, and where the responsibility falls when an event never reaches the starting line. Then we recap a historic Hardrock 100. Ludovic Pommeret delivered a third straight victory while setting a new overall course record, and Courtney Dauwalter returned to the top of the women’s race with a new clockwise course record. We cover the biggest performances, surprises, and takeaways from another wild weekend in Silverton. Finally, Jake is taking on the DC Peaks 100 in the middle of a Utah heat wave. Come support him this week as he tries to hit a sub 24 hour finish on our brand new course! Partners Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes. Use code NextAidStation for 15% off. Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time. 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #Ultrarunning #Hardrock100 #DCPeaks100
July 8 · 1 hr 11 min
Taylor Spike on Addiction, Adventure, and 300 Miles
Taylor Spike joins the podcast to share the story behind his 300-mile Arizona Monster finish, what he learned from leading much of the race, and why the miles themselves aren't the most meaningful part of the journey. The conversation goes far beyond racing as Taylor opens up about sobriety, building the Spike Camp community, the importance of belonging, and how adventure can become a powerful tool for personal growth. Whether you're an ultrarunner or just someone looking for purpose through challenge, this is a conversation you won't want to miss. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
July 1 · 1 hr 49 min
Hardrock in Question? A Call with Jeff Browning
Western States may be in the books, but the ultrarunning world isn't slowing down. Jake and Mick discuss the uncertainty surrounding Hardrock, what the conditions could mean for this year's race, and the latest news leading into one of the sport's most iconic events. Later in the episode, they call Jeff Browning, fresh off his record-breaking performance at Western States, where he became the fastest 50+ finisher in race history. Jeff reflects on his race, the mindset behind chasing a record, how Cocodona affected his preparation, and what lies ahead as Hardrock quickly approaches. Whether you're following Hardrock, reliving Western States, or just love hearing from one of the sport's most accomplished veterans, this is an episode you won't want to miss. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 23 · 2 hr 29 min
WS100 Preview: Why Jim Won't Win
It's Western States week, which means every trail running podcast, YouTube channel, and media outlet is releasing preview content.So naturally, we decided to do the same.This week, Jake and Mick break down the men's and women's races, make a few bold predictions, discuss whether anyone can beat Jim Walmsley, and explain why Hans Troyer might be the future of the sport. Along the way, they talk race strategy, media overload, and what makes Western States the biggest event in trail running.Whether you're following every split or just trying to survive race week content, we've got you covered.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 17 · 1 hr 33 min
Broken Arrow is paying HOW much???
Broken Arrow weekend has arrived, and with TrailCon and Western States right around the corner, trail running is entering one of its biggest stretches of the year. This week, Jake and Mick break down the Broken Arrow 23K and 46K fields, discuss the eye-popping prize money on the line, make Fantasy Free Trail picks, and talk about the athletes they'll be watching throughout the weekend. They also discuss recent race results, the Bear 100 qualifier series, TrailCon, Western States storylines, and a surprisingly intense conversation about prize money distribution in professional trail running. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 10 · 1 hr 25 min
Rise and Fall of the Meat 🥩
Jake and Mick reflect on the recent controversy surrounding the "Here for the Men's Meat" shirt, the conversations it sparked, and the decision to retire the design. They discuss community feedback, navigating disagreement online, and the challenges of balancing intent with impact.They also cover Western States storylines and other topics from around the trail running world.Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytesUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison#TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
June 3 · 1 hr 23 min
Pete's Meats, Juneteenth, and Other Important Trail Running Topics
Mick is finally back, and things go off the rails almost immediately. We cover the Cam and Sage drama, the absurd stack-height controversy from a college track championship, why trail running attracts so many rule enthusiasts, Western States storylines, Pete's Meats, and somehow end up discussing Juneteenth. Just another normal episode of The Next Aid Station. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Mick Garrison #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 25 · 1 hr 5 min
Jeff Pelletier and the Future of Ultrarunning Content Creation
Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore & Kilian Korth 👤 Guest: Jeff Pelletier #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 22 · 1 hr 1 min
Catching up with Manuela Vilaseca — The Triple Crown Record Holder
Manuela Vilaseca is the current Triple Crown of 200s record holder. In this episode, we chat about what drew her to attempt the triple crown, why she often prefers no crew or pacers, and her plans for the future. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyondUse code NextAidStation for 15% off (⁠https://redmond.life/⁠)Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (⁠https://rockstarenergy.com/⁠)1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (⁠https://1-home.com/⁠)🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore 👤 Guest: Manuela Vilaseca#Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 20 · 1 hr 17 min
Sally McRae on Cocodona and The Business of Ultrarunning
In this episode, we talk Cocodona, Badwater 135, and the business of ultrarunning. Sally talks about her experience with Nike Trail, where she'll go next, and gives advice to emerging trail athletes on how to work with brands without losing yourself. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) 🎙️ Hosted by Jake Kilgore 👤 Guest: Sally McRae #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning Music License: COVFFU5C7U01A7NC
May 15 · 1 hr 39 min
Cocodona 250 Recap | Dirt Naps, Cooked Quads, and a 73 Hour Finish!
This episode of The Next Aid Station picks up just after Jake survived Cocodona 250 in a little over 73 hours, finishing 14th male and looking like a man who had legally died sometime around mile 130. Jake and Mick unpack the chaos of race week, the crowds, and the live-stream madness. The boys also dive into the week’s biggest trail running drama: Sage Canaday vs. “that hybrid athlete influencer who likes bow hunting,” Francesco Puppi declaring 200-milers “not real trail running,” and the unofficial finisher controversy that had ultra runners debating whether one minute past cutoff means you ran 250 miles… or apparently didn’t. Somewhere in the middle of all that are dirt naps, blown quads at mile 40, fence ladders from hell, emergency hot dogs used as recovery science, and Jamil Coury appearing over sleeping runners at aid stations like a trail-running guardian angel. It’s part race recap, part group therapy, and part evidence that ultrarunners should probably be supervised. Partners: Re-Lyte — clean, effective electrolytes powering Cocodona week and beyond Use code NextAidStation for 15% off (https://redmond.life/) Rockstar Energy — fueling the pod, one can at a time (https://rockstarenergy.com/) 1Home — your home energy partner for solar, battery, HVAC, roofing, EV chargers, and duct cleaning across Utah, Colorado, and Nevada. Slide into the DMs for a free home energy assessment. (https://1-home.com/) #Cocodona250 #TrailRunning #ultrarunning

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