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The Devil in The Details
Dan and Jordan Burke
Welcome to a journey into the depths of spiritual warfare led by a father & son (Dan and Jordan Burke). Through devout Catholic beliefs and unwavering search for truth, we carefully examine complex topics with reverence and diligence. We explore intricate questions, navigating subtleties, debunk misconceptions, and reveal hidden truths that are often shrouded by confusion or false teachings. Drawing from centuries of Catholic tradition & wisdom, as well as expertise from those in the field, we strive to uncover the mysteries of this spiritual battle and learn how to be victorious in Jesus.
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How You Know You’re Leaving the Purgative Way | Devil in the Castle Chapter 3 (Part 5)
Are you finally winning the battle against habitual mortal sin? In this episode of The Devil Is in the Details, Dan and Jordan Burke continue their journey through The Devil in the Castle, exploring sustained piety, the final stage of the purgative way before transition into the illuminative way. This is the stage where mortal sin has become rare, occurring only when taken by surprise, and even then it's often questionable whether the sin was truly mortal. Venial sin is no longer habitual, and the soul fights it vigilantly, though imperfections begin to surface more clearly. Prayer has become consistent, meditation is often affective, and the soul may even begin to experience the prayer of simplicity or contemplative aridity as the Lord draws them deeper. Dan and Jordan discuss what this late purgative stage looks like in everyday life, how the soul responds to venial sin with intense sorrow and a firm purpose of amendment, why imperfections are often avoided or excused, and how daily mental prayer becomes absolutely non-negotiable. They also explore the transition into the dark night of sense, where meditation dries up and the Lord begins to purify the soul more deeply, preparing them for the illuminative way. This conversation is both practical and deeply rooted in the wisdom of St. Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross, and the Catholic spiritual tradition, offering clear markers for discerning where you are in the spiritual life and what God may be calling you toward next. In this episode: * What sustained piety looks like in the late purgative way * Why mortal sin becomes rare and only by surprise * How venial sin is fought vigilantly and taken to confession * Why imperfections begin to surface and how to respond * The importance of daily mental prayer at this stage * What affective prayer and the prayer of simplicity mean * How contemplative aridity signals a deeper purification * The four signs of the dark night of sense according to St. John of the Cross * Why consistent examination of conscience is essential * The role of daily Mass, confession, and the sacraments in spiritual progress * How to discern whether God is calling you into a new phase of prayer The spiritual life is not about perfection. It is about faithfulness, cooperation with grace, and allowing the Lord to purify and transform you according to His will. What questions do you have after watching today's video? Were you impacted in some way? If so, comment below!
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How the Devil Keeps Good Catholics Comfortable | Devil in the Castle Chapter 3 (Part 4)
Why do so many Catholics remain stuck in the same spiritual patterns year after year? In this episode of The Devil Is in the Details, Dan and Jordan Burke continue their journey through The Devil in the Castle, diving deeper into the purgative way and exploring what it means to move from mediocre piety to intermittent piety. This is the stage where most practicing Catholics find themselves: mortal sin is being resisted more consistently, confession is becoming more regular, and awareness of sin is growing. But venial sin remains a persistent struggle, fought weakly and without a clear plan. The soul regrets sin when recognized, but sorrow is often shallow, and examination of conscience lacks method or structure. Dan and Jordan discuss why venial sins matter more than most Catholics realize, how they weaken the will and prepare the way for more serious falls, and why awareness without strategy leads nowhere. They also tackle the uncomfortable truth that many Catholics are only nominally engaged with their faith, attending Mass but avoiding confession, receiving the Eucharist without proper preparation, and picking and choosing which Church teachings to follow. This conversation is both challenging and compassionate, calling Catholics to wake up spiritually while offering practical tools rooted in the wisdom of the saints and the Church's spiritual tradition. In this episode: * What intermittent piety looks like in the purgative way * Why venial sin weakens the will and leads to mortal sin * The connection between gluttony and lust according to the Church Fathers * Why adequate confession requires contrition and a firm purpose of amendment * How to know if your confession is valid * The importance of a structured examination of conscience * Why so many Catholics are spiritually asleep * The danger of picking and choosing which teachings to follow * How Holy Days of Obligation, Friday abstinence, and regular confession shape the spiritual life * Why awareness alone is not enough for spiritual progress * Practical resources for understanding mortal sin, venial sin, and confession The spiritual life is not about perfection. It is about faithfulness, honesty, and cooperation with grace. Progress begins when excuses end and the soul becomes willing to fight with strategy, humility, and perseverance. What questions do you have after watching today's video? Were you impacted in some way? If so, comment below!
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July 27 · 56 minYou Don’t Get to Correct Everyone (And Shouldn't)
And it might be taking you to hell. When should you correct another Catholic… and when should you stay silent? Many Catholics sincerely want to defend the truth, but good intentions are not enough. In this episode, Dan and Jordan explore one of the most neglected virtues in the Church today: charitable correction. Drawing from Scripture, the wisdom of the saints, and hard lessons learned through years of ministry, they unpack why many attempts at “fraternal correction” actually become sins of pride, rash judgment, and speech. Together they discuss Christ’s teaching in Matthew 18, St. Paul’s description of charity in 1 Corinthians 13, and practical principles for discerning whether you should speak at all. They also examine real-world examples involving public figures, online debates, and the unique dangers of social media, showing why being right is not enough. Truth must always be spoken with humility, patience, and genuine love for the other person’s salvation. In this episode: Why not every battle belongs to you The difference between defending truth and defending your ego What Matthew 18 actually teaches about correction Why private conversations should come before public criticism The importance of earning “a seat at someone’s table” How charity changes the way we speak Why assumptions are often forms of rash judgment The danger of online Catholic outrage How to know whether God is calling you to speak or remain silent The goal of correction is never humiliation. It is always the salvation of souls.
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July 20 · 45 minHow to Finally Break Habitual Sin | Devil in the Castle Chapter 3 (Part 3)
Why do so many Catholics remain trapped in the same sins year after year? In this episode of The Devil Is in the Details, Dan and Jordan Burke continue their journey through The Devil in the Castle, beginning a closer examination of the purgative way, the first major phase of the spiritual life. Most Catholics are somewhere within this stage. The soul may sincerely desire God and regret serious sin, yet still struggle with habitual mortal sin, inadequate confession, avoidance of suffering, inconsistent prayer, and a lack of awareness about the patterns that repeatedly lead to failure. Dan and Jordan explore the first stage of the purgative way, which Dom Chautard calls mediocre piety, and explain what must change before genuine spiritual progress can occur. They discuss why regret alone is not enough, what a firm purpose of amendment actually requires, how venial sins prepare the way for more serious falls, and why freedom demands more than simply “trying harder.” It requires humility, strategy, accountability, prayer, and a willingness to suffer rather than continually escape through distraction or sin. In this episode: What the purgative, illuminative, and unitive ways mean Why most Catholics remain in the purgative way The signs of mediocre piety Why habitual mortal sin must become your highest spiritual priority What makes a confession inadequate The meaning of a firm purpose of amendment How to identify the patterns that lead to repeated sin Why venial sin cannot be treated as insignificant How the avoidance of suffering keeps us spiritually immature Why prayer often begins as self-focused petition How a daily examination of conscience wakes us up The importance of gratitude, accountability, and a rule of life The spiritual battle is rarely fought in dramatic moments. It is fought in the ordinary details of daily life: getting out of bed, resisting temptation, examining your choices, accepting suffering, and returning faithfully to prayer and the sacraments. Freedom begins when excuses end and the soul becomes willing to cooperate seriously with grace.
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July 13 · 37 minReal Signs You’re Growing Spiritually | Devil in the Castle Chapter 3 (Part 2)
How can you tell whether you are actually growing in the spiritual life? In this episode of The Devil Is in the Details, Dan and Jordan Burke continue their series through The Devil in the Castle, exploring the Third Mansion of St. Teresa of Avila’s Interior Castle and the signs that a soul is beginning to make real spiritual progress. The Third Mansion marks a serious transition. Habitual mortal sin is being overcome, mental prayer has become more consistent, and love of God begins to reshape how a person speaks, dresses, works, manages responsibilities, and treats others. But spiritual growth is also easy to misunderstand. Dan and Jordan discuss why mystical experiences are not reliable evidence of holiness, how pride can distort our perception of where we are spiritually, and why love, humility, virtue, and fidelity are far better indicators of progress than visions, locutions, or extraordinary experiences. They also examine the three traditional stages of the spiritual life: the purgative, illuminative, and unitive ways, and explain why understanding your general trajectory matters more than obsessing over exactly which mansion you occupy. In this episode: Signs of progress in the Third Mansion What it means to overcome habitual mortal sin Why mental prayer is essential for spiritual growth How love changes speech, dress, work, and relationships Why sins of the tongue reveal spiritual immaturity The purgative, illuminative, and unitive ways Whether someone can be in two mansions at once Why mystical experiences do not prove holiness How the enemy can imitate spiritual experiences Why humility and love are the truest signs of progress The importance of confession, the Eucharist, and a rule of life The spiritual life is usually not dramatic. It is built through ordinary fidelity: getting up, praying, fighting sin, receiving the sacraments, fulfilling your duties, and beginning again.
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June 2 · 50 minInfluencer Fatigue: The Corruption of Catholic Commentary
What happens when zeal moves faster than spiritual maturity? In this episode of The Devil in the Details, Dan and Jordan discuss the growing feeling of “influencer fatigue” in Catholic media: the trend of new converts, reverts, commentators, and public personalities being elevated too quickly before they have the prayer life, accountability, formation, and humility needed to sustain that platform. From celebrity conversions to Catholic social media scandals, this conversation examines how the enemy can use genuine zeal, real gifts, and even orthodox teaching as a kind of spiritual judo, turning momentum against the soul. Together, they discuss: Why new converts and reverts are especially vulnerable to premature public platforms The danger of making Catholic media about personality instead of Christ Why daily mental prayer and spiritual direction are non-negotiable How ambition can disguise itself as zeal The need for accountability, humility, and silence before teaching Why followers should be cautious about quickly elevating new Catholic voices How the devil can use even good desires to pull souls off course This is not a call to cynicism or gatekeeping. It is a call to discernment, humility, and prayer. Because the goal is not to become known. The goal is to become holy.
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April 13 · 58 minThe Seduction of Suspicion: A Critical Spirit in Catholic Commentary
Read Mark's full article here: https://www.catholicunscripted.com/p/the-seduction-of-suspicion Why does so much Catholic commentary today feel suspicious, divisive, or even spiritually draining? In this episode, we unpack the rise of a critical spirit and how it often disguises itself as discernment. Drawing from Mark Lambert’s article The Seduction of Suspicion, we explore how partial truths, oversimplification, and emotional reactions can lead souls away from clarity, humility, and ultimately, Christ. We also discuss practical warning signs to watch for, why conspiracy thinking is so attractive, and how to remain grounded in truth without losing charity.
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February 2 · 33 minShould Lay People Lay Hands? Authority, Charismatic Gifts, and Spiritual Warfare
In this episode of The Devil is in the Details, Dan and Jordan tackle a hot-button topic in Catholic circles: can lay people lay hands on others in prayer? Responding to a listener’s question, they walk through: How Vatican II’s call for greater lay participation was sometimes distorted Why blurring the line between priest and laity weakens belief in the Eucharist The connection between priestly gestures, apostolic authority, and spiritual warfare Why exorcists like Fr. Gabriele Amorth and experts like Adam Blai warn against lay people laying hands on heads How the enemy can use “healing” experiences and false power to ensnare people The real difference between supplication and assuming spiritual authority you don’t have Clear, practical guidelines for lay Catholics who want to pray for others without crossing dangerous lines Dan also shares personal experiences assisting at exorcisms and explains why priestly gestures are never for the laity, while Jordan lays out a simple framework for understanding spiritual authority in the family and beyond.
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January 5 · 29 minHumility, Judging Others and Fear of Sin | Devil in the Castle Chapter 3 (Part 1)
“Do not judge” is one of the most quoted and most misunderstood lines in the Gospel. Jesus does not say “ignore your brother’s speck.” He says remove the plank from your own eye first, then you will see clearly to help your brother. In other words, humility and self knowledge come before any true correction. In this episode of The Devil is in the Details, Dan and Jordan begin Chapter 3 of The Devil in the Castle and enter the battles of the Third Mansion in St. Teresa of Avila’s Interior Castle. Here the soul is more stable in prayer and leaving habitual mortal sin behind, yet it faces a deeper and more subtle war: pride, a critical spirit, and a distorted fear of the enemy instead of a healthy fear of God and of our own capacity to fall. You will hear about • Why we should not fear the devil, but should fear our own ability to rationalize sin and reject God • How humility “knocks off the handles” that sin gives to the enemy • The difference between judging and condemning, and how to read “judge not” together with “you will know them by their fruits” • The real meaning of the plank and speck analogy and what it reveals about gentle correction • How social media and outrage culture feed a critical spirit that can destroy community life and our own souls • Practical ways to guard your tongue, avoid unnecessary criticism and speak only where you have responsibility or relationship • Why God sometimes allows repeated failure so that pride is broken and humility can grow This is Part 1 of a three part look at the Third Mansion. In later parts, Dan and Jordan will explore the transition from meditative to contemplative prayer and how the enemy tries to derail that deeper intimacy with God. To follow along more deeply, get Dan’s book The Devil in the Castle and explore free resources on mental prayer, humility and spiritual warfare at SpiritualDirection.com and in the Apostoli Viae community at ApostoliViae.org.
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Dec 22, 2025 · 26 minSecond Mansion: Fighting Temptation, Shame, and Discouragement | Devil in the Castle Chapter 2
In the second mansion of St. Teresa of Avila’s Interior Castle, the battle gets loud. You have started praying, you are doing the daily examen, and suddenly you see your sin, your patterns, and your past more clearly than ever. The enemy rushes in with shame, discouragement, confusion, and the lie that “all of this was easier before you started getting serious.” In this episode of The Devil is in the Details, Dan and Jordan continue their series on The Devil in the Castle and unpack the spiritual warfare of the second mansion, where the soul is spiritually awake but still fragile. You will hear about • How daily mental prayer and the examen wake you up to the real state of your soul • The way the enemy weaponizes shame, universal negatives, and “you will never change” • Why quitting prayer to “make the attacks stop” is like paying protection money to the mob • Practical tactics to resist temptation in the first wave and train your will to fight • The need to flee near occasions of sin, change life systems, and sometimes even leave relationships or environments • How detachment from media, noise, and certain friendships actually weakens the enemy’s grip • Why small daily mortifications and physical discipline strengthen you for spiritual battle They also touch on redemptive examen, the sovereignty of God in the middle of the fight, and concrete tools like Into the Deep, Finding Peace in the Storm, and the Holy Habits app to help you keep going when the battle feels most intense. This episode is part of a series on The Devil in the Castle. For full context, start with the introduction and first mansion, then continue through the playlist. Resources and free courses on mental prayer, spiritual warfare, and discernment of spirits are available at SpiritualDirection.com and ApostoliViae.org.
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Dec 9, 2025 · 41 minThe First Mansion and Real Spiritual Warfare | Devil in the Castle Chapter 1
If you are not practicing mental prayer every day, are you really on the road to heaven? The saints would say that you're not. In this episode of The Devil is in the Details, Dan and Jordan continue their series on The Devil in the Castle and Saint Teresa of Avila’s Interior Castle, stepping from the courtyard into the first mansion. They unpack why the saints, including Teresa of Avila, Alphonsus Liguori, and Aquinas, insist that daily mental prayer and a daily examen are not optional extras, but essential for salvation and authentic discipleship. You will hear about • Why Aquinas can say it is a sin not to pray • How mental prayer actually gives you self knowledge and heals self delusion • What a simple daily examen looks like in real life • The “handles” sin creates for the enemy, and how they fall off as you grow in charity • The lies that keep people from engaging in spiritual warfare, especially fear of “stirring things up” They also walk through the "demonic goal" for those in the first mansion, the enemy’s tactics to keep you from daily prayer, and the concrete remedies the Church gives us, such as Mass, confession, mental prayer, and a spiritual rule of life. Free Video Series on Prayer mentioned in the show: https://spiritualdirection.com/into-the-deep-sign-up
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Nov 3, 2025 · 48 minThe Power of the Rosary: How Mary Heals Wounds and Breaks Bondage — with Gabriel Castillo
When Catholics actually pray the Rosary well, hearts heal, families are protected, and hidden lies lose power. Gabriel Castillo (Gabby After Hours) joins Jordan to unpack real spiritual warfare (the 95% that happens in our minds and hearts), how Mary personally heals father/mother wounds, and why a daily Rosary fuels Confession, the Eucharist, and peace of soul.Gabriel’s new book: The Power of the Rosary• Book: https://sophiainstitute.com/product/the-power-of-the-rosary/• Audiobook: https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Power-of-the-Rosary-Audiobook/B0FNS35SBB?srsltid=AfmBOorwoJ7b_vCPR-FXfXmf-lQ-kkJZkn6yTCHvJEZzK_TEZZ2xq6rf• Gabriel’s channel (Gabby After Hours): https://www.youtube.com/@gabiafterhours
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Oct 14, 2025 · 48 minIntroduction to Teresa of Avila and The Devil in the Castle
We’re launching a new series on Dan’s book The Devil in the Castle, a practical guide to spiritual warfare through St. Teresa of Avila’s Interior Castle—with help from St. John of the Cross and St. Ignatius. We unpack authority (who can command what and when), why we defer to priests, how prayer + reflection mark true discipleship, and why “deliverance ministry” needs guardrails. What you’ll learn Why Teresa’s “castle” map matters for everyday Catholics How the enemy’s tactics change as you advance toward union with God Realms of authority: family, spouses, clergy—where boldness is wise and where it’s reckless Why prayer & reflection are the two turning keys into authentic discipleship A sober, non-sensational approach to spiritual warfare that avoids common abuses
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Oct 3, 2025 · 33 minPope Leo XIV and Demonic Deception
It's been HOW LONG since we posted?! Wow. Apologies, because we have certainly been recording... As a token of apology, here is an episode earlier than scheduled. Or is it still later...? Either way you're getting it earlier than the youtube subscribers so that's gotta count for something. They still have to wait another 2 days! But onto business... Today we tackle a neglected battlefield of spiritual warfare: communication. Scripture warns that we’ll answer for “every careless word” and that mercy received must become mercy given (James 2–3). We unpack how the enemy distorts messages, inflames wounds, and pushes us from charity into accusation—especially online. We also walk through practical rules to slow down, pray, reread, and respond with a charitable assumption rather than the devil’s favorite weapon: rash judgment.What you’ll learn: •Why the enemy targets communication to divide spouses, priests, bishops—and the Church •How negative assumptions and interior wounds make us easy to manipulate •The difference between fraternal correction and the sins of detraction & calumny •A simple discipline for hot emails/comments: pause → pray → reread → delay •Why James 3 is a must-read before you post •A call to conversion: show the mercy you hope to receive at judgmentScripture referenced •James 2–3 (mercy & the power of the tongue) •1 Peter 5:8 (the enemy prowls) •Matthew 18:6; 12:36 (causing scandal; every careless word) •Luke 6:36–37 (be merciful; judge not)Chapters:00:00 Spiritual Warfare and the Pope's Interview01:44 The Enemy's Tactics in Communication02:51 Misinterpretations and Emotional Reactions03:59 The Devil's Strategy to Divide08:23 The Pope's Interview: Different Perspectives11:38 The Impact of Miscommunication on Tradition14:58 Criticism and the Sin of Assumption16:49 Confronting Sin and Mercy17:31 Pharisee Behavior and Hypocrisy17:52 The Traditionalist Dilemma18:20 Vitriol and Hatred in Comments18:40 Madonna and Charitable Assumptions19:58 Respecting the Pope20:27 Challenges Faced by Traditionalists21:50 Negative Assumptions and Their Consequences30:09 The Power of the Tongue
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Sep 8, 2025 · 37 minThe Devil Studies You... | Ignatian Rule 14 Explained
The devil doesn’t guess. He watches. Learns. Waits. And when he finds your weakest point, he attacks. In this final episode of our Ignatian Discernment series, Dan and Jordan unpack Rule 14 — a chilling but liberating truth: the enemy studies your life like a general preparing to breach a fortress. Your wounds, your past, your patterns — all are potential entry points. But once you know them, you can fight back. This episode gets deeply personal as Dan and Jordan share stories of past trauma, addiction, and relational wounds — and how the enemy used them as open doors. But they also offer hope: practical steps, spiritual disciplines, and encouragement for building a life the enemy can’t conquer. You’ll learn: How demons exploit your wounds and vices Why unresolved trauma becomes spiritual vulnerability The difference between clubs and true Catholic community How to fortify your soul through self-knowledge, mental prayer, and sacramental grace What comes after Rule 14 This is the end of the series — but not the war. Whether you’ve followed from Rule 1 or just discovered this episode, this conversation will help you close the door to the enemy and walk freely in the grace of God. “The devil may be in the details—but God is on the throne.” And for those who have read this far down - Our next series will be on The Devil in The Castle!
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Aug 25, 2025 · 30 minExposing Desolation (and the Enemy) | Ignatian Rule 13 Explained
Demons thrive in the dark. That’s why St. Ignatius’ 13th Rule of Discernment urges us to expose their lies — fast. In this episode, Dan and Jordan dive into one of the most underrated spiritual warfare tactics: calling out the devil’s schemes and sharing them with others. You’ll hear stories from police work, deliverance ministry, and personal battles with desolation that reveal how the enemy loses power the moment we bring his plans into the light. They discuss: •The spiritual and psychological power of naming desolation •Why texting “I’m in desolation” can shift everything •The importance of holy friendships and spiritual accountability •How demons act like cowards — and why exposure makes them flee Timestamp Summary: 00:00 Rule 13: Exposing the Enemy's Efforts 05:19 Practical Steps to Combat Desolation 06:13 The Power of Writing and Confession 08:09 Spiritual Direction and Confession 10:30 Analogies and Real-Life Examples 17:49 The Gift of Fear and Ignoring Intuition 18:50 Recognizing and Responding to Threats 19:57 Spiritual Awareness and the Enemy 24:58 Levels of Response to Desolation 29:48 The Importance of Reaching Out for Help 30:50 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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Aug 11, 2025 · 42 minDemonic Temptation: Can a Catholic go to a Protestant for Spiritual Direction?
In this episode of The Devil is in the Details, Jordan and Dan Burke react to a video raising a serious question: Should Catholics ever receive spiritual direction from someone who isn’t Catholic?With honesty and charity, they unpack the theological and practical problems with this scenario—covering sacramental life, moral theology, Church teaching, and the dangers of syncretism. Along the way, they explore how true spiritual direction is meant to work, why it requires a shared foundation in the Catholic faith, and the risks of ignoring that reality.This conversation is both a cautionary tale and a call to charity—urging Catholics to lead others to the fullness of the truth in Christ and His Church.Resources Mentioned: •Spiritual Direction School: AvilaInstitute.org •Find a Faithful Catholic Spiritual Director: SeekDirection.app •Book: Navigating the Interior Life by Dan Burke
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Jul 21, 2025 · 28 minWhen You Feel the Devil Coming: How to Fight Fast and Fierce | Ignatius’ Rule 12 Explained
What do you do when evil stands between you and the chapel? In this raw and practical episode, Dan and Jordan unpack Rule 12 from St. Ignatius of Loyola’s Discernment of Spirits—a hard-hitting rule about spiritual warfare, temptation, and the tactics of the enemy. They explore real-life stories involving demonic presence, a dog named Max, mountain lions, and the fight against habitual sin. You’ll learn: Why the enemy is like an aggressive dog How delay makes desolation worse The role of music, noise, and distractions in spiritual warfare What “fast and fierce” resistance really looks like in the battle against sin This is a no-fluff, boots-on-the-ground conversation for anyone serious about becoming spiritually dangerous.
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Jul 7, 2025 · 22 minDon’t Get Cocky: Humility Through Desolation | Ignatian Rule 11 Explained
God humbles us in consolation so we can fight better in desolation. Rule 11 of St. Ignatius’ Discernment of Spirits teaches how humility protects us from pride—and prepares us for battle. Timestamp Summary: 00:00 Opening 00:36 Understanding Rule 11: Humility in Consolation and Desolation 01:06 Practical Applications of Humility 03:18 Personal Experiences and Reflections 06:08 Strategies for Overcoming Desolation 12:19 Balancing Rest and Effort 22:08 Conclusion and Upcoming Topics
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