Space Spiels

Paige Kaufman

Space Spiels is a podcast that brings you down-to-earth, real conversations about life in the aerospace world. Through a wide range of guests, we explore the flexible, ever-evolving nature of careers in the field, while digging into the honest challenges and human stories behind this beautifully complex industry.

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Disclaimer: My personal social media communications only reflect my personal views and do not represent the views of my employer or any mentioned organizations.

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Monday · 30 min
Apply Anyway: Internships, Confidence, and Material Science w/ Keerthi Padmanabhan
In this episode of Space Spiels, Paige sits down with Keerthi Padmanabhan to explore her career journey so far. With seven internships under her belt, including experiences at NASA and Blue Origin, Keerthi shares why she chose to prioritize hands-on experience over rushing through college. She opens up about overcoming self-doubt, applying for the Brooke Owens Fellowship, and the impact of having women in aerospace who encourage and uplift one another. From working on sustainable technologies for space exploration to navigating the uncertainty of choosing a career, Keerthi reminds us that you don't need to have everything figured out at 18. Her biggest takeaway? Make a choice, and make it the right choice. Disclaimer: The conversations in this episode are the personal views of the participants and do not represent any mentioned organizations.
October 26 · 17 min
I'm One Year Post Grad: A Down To Earth Convo
In this solo episode, I’m sharing my experience transitioning from school to a full-time career in aerospace and the uncertainty that came with it. Including navigating a tough job market and wondering whether I’d land a full-time position, I’m getting honest about the challenges along the way. I also explain why I chose to do another internship the summer after graduating with my bachelor’s degree and how being enrolled in my master’s program made that possible. Along the way, I share some of my biggest lessons: seek out the experiences you want, be annoyingly persistent, find mentors, and be kind to the people around you. We’re also talking about how the “adulting” stuff gets easier, but maintaining a healthy work-life balance takes real effort and intentional habits. Whether you’re still in school, navigating internships, or well established in a full-time role, I hope this episode reminds you that even career paths that look perfect come with challenges!Disclaimer: The conversations in this episode are the personal views of the participants and do not represent any mentioned organizations.
October 12 · 44 min
Environmental Science, Space, and Not Having It All Figured Out w/ Jaimi Lutes
In this episode of Space Spiels, Paige sits down with Jaimi Lutes to talk about studying Earth and Space science and Environmental Science, researching how bacteria communities could support plant growth in extreme environments, and finding the unexpected connections between space exploration and sustainability here on Earth. Jaimi also shares how marching band, triathlon, mentorship, sleep, and some seriously intentional time management helped her navigate life as a high-achieving STEM student. She gets candid about post-grad uncertainty, unanswered emails, grad school applications, and learning to separate your self-worth from your scientific achievements. Along the way, Jaimi shares practical advice on studying using active recall and why being terrible at something is often the first step toward getting good at it. It’s a conversation about curiosity, resilience, and learning to like who you are when you face hard things.
September 28 · 28 min
What a Career Pivot Actually Looks Like w/ Michael Sola
Michael Sola’s path into aerospace has been anything but linear. In this episode, he shares how an early interest in aviation led him to Pratt & Whitney, graduate school at USC, a hands-on internship at The Aerospace Corporation, and eventually his current propulsion role at Vast. We talk about what it was really like to work full time while attending graduate school in person and leading projects in USC’s Liquid Propulsion Laboratory. Michael also opens up about leaving a stable full-time job for an internship, navigating an uncertain job search, and how networking and mentors helped him make some of his biggest career decisions. Along the way, Michael shares practical advice about taking calculated risks, minimizing wasted effort, and continuing to chase the work that genuinely interests you. Listen now to hear Michael’s story and his advice for anyone navigating their own ever-changing path in aerospace.Connect with Mike here
September 14 · 40 min
Breaking Into Aerospace as an International Student: Mark Zhang
In this episode of Space Spiels, Paige sits down with Mark Zhang, a Systems Test Engineer at Joby Aviation, to talk about his journey into aerospace as an international student. Mark shares how The Martian first sparked his interest in space, how his time at Purdue led him toward commercial aviation, and why he became fascinated by the power of airplanes to connect people around the world. He breaks down what systems engineering actually looks like, how research taught him to simplify complex problems, and which college experiences helped prepare him for his career. Mark also gives an honest look at one of the hardest parts of his journey: trying to build an aerospace career in the United States as a non-U.S. citizen. He shares the persistence behind repeatedly applying to companies, reaching out to Purdue alumni, improving his resume and cover letters, and continuing forward even when he questioned whether choosing aerospace had been the right decision. This conversation is a reminder that sometimes building the career you want comes down to continuing to solve the next problem in front of you. Connect with Mark here! Disclaimer: The conversations in this episode are the personal views of the participants and do not represent any mentioned organizations.
August 31 · 32 min
Always Learning: Amy Dill’s Journey to Becoming NASA’s First Female Lunar CAPCOM
It’s the Space Spiels Season 4 premiere!! Paige sits down with NASA’s first female lunar CAPCOM, Amy Dill, to talk about the winding path that led her to the front room of one of NASA’s most historic missions. From discovering MIT through magazines and balancing engineering with hockey to navigating NASA without a clear roadmap, Amy shares how curiosity, collaboration, mentorship, and a willingness to try something new shaped her career. She opens up about applying three times to become a CAPCOM, switching subsystems, and embracing pivots that ultimately gave her the experience she needed to reach the role. Amy also takes us behind the scenes of Artemis II, reflecting on the unforgettable rendezvous and proximity operations demonstration and what it feels like to witness history from a perspective few people ever get to see. To kick off Season 4, this is a conversation about persistence, failure, curiosity, and the people who help us find our way. I can’t wait for you to hear! Disclaimer: The conversations in this episode are the personal views of the participants and do not represent any mentioned organizations.
May 11 · 28 min
Failure in Engineering w/ Dylan Johnson
In this episode, Paige sits down with instrumentation and controls engineer Dylan Johnson to talk about his journey in engineering. The conversation dives into his relationship with failure, work-life balance, and the misconceptions many people have about engineers. Dylan shares how embracing mistakes helped shape both his career and the way he supports the people around him. This episode is an honest and encouraging conversation about resilience, uncertainty, and trusting that even when doors seem to close, things can still work out exactly the way they’re meant to. Connect with Dylan!
April 13 · 35 min
From Army to Artemis w/ Matthew Landon
Matt does not speak for the U.S. Army, government, or NASA. All views are our own. In this episode, Paige sits down with Matthew Landon, a Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Army, to talk about his path in the military and aerospace world. Matt shares how his background in intelligence, education, and leadership shaped his perspective. The conversation highlights powerful lessons on trusting your instincts, embracing difficult challenges, and choosing passion over external expectations. He reflects on moments of imposter syndrome, the importance of staying genuine and approachable, and why being yourself is ultimately your greatest advantage. Matt also reflects on unforgettable moments – like witnessing an Artemis launch – and leaves listeners with grounded advice on growth, self-belief, and not taking life too seriously. Connect with Matt 🚀🚀🚀 Disclaimer: My personal social media communications only reflect my personal views and do not represent the views of my employer or associated organizations.
March 30 · 22 min
My Imposter Syndrome Experience and How I Overcome it
In this episode, Paige opens up about her personal experience with imposter syndrome and 4 tips that help her overcome it. She breaks down what imposter syndrome is, why so many students in STEM struggle with it, and how it manifests in her. Paige shares honest stories from her time at USC, including academic challenges, self-doubt, and the pressure of being surrounded by top performers. She gives practical strategies for overcoming these feelings, emphasizing community, self-awareness, and learning how to succeed in a way that is both challenging and sustainable. Listen now for a vulnerable and helpful conversation! Connect with me!
March 16 · 29 min
Art and Space w/ ORBES CEO Anna Shaposhnik
In this episode, Paige sits down with Anna Shaposhnik, founder and CEO of ORBES, to talk about her path into the space industry. Anna shares how her interdisciplinary education at USC’s Iovine and Young Academy allowed her to combine art, design, and engineering while working hands-on at the USC Rocket Propulsion Lab as both a machinist and visual design lead. She reflects on her experience at the startup Orbit Fab and what it was like balancing work while still in school. Now leading a company of her own, building robotic workers for space stations, Anna discusses what it’s been like learning to be a CEO right after graduating and why putting yourself in challenging situations is key to growth. The conversation explores creativity in engineering, taking initiative in your education, and building the future of space through collaboration. Follow Anna!
March 3 · 31 min
Year One in Aerospace: Anne Weber
In this episode, Paige sits down with aerospace engineering student Anne Weber to talk about her journey into the space industry and finding confidence in a challenging field. Anne shares how Hidden Figures, an inspiring high school speaker, and a visit to Kennedy Space Center helped her realize a career in aerospace was truly attainable -- even after initially doubting whether she was “smart enough.” She opens up about transitioning into college, tackling difficult physics courses, and what it’s like working on the avionics team for The Buckeye Space Launch Initiative. Anne also explains her unique minor in Science and Engineering in the Public Interest and how it shapes the way she thinks about engineering’s broader impact. Click listen for an honest look at how Anne is finding her place in aerospace! Connect with Anne!
February 16 · 32 min
Confidence and Career Leaps w/ theplanekate
In this episode, Paige has a down to earth conversation with Flight Test Engineer Kate Gunderson! She reflects on her best day at test pilot school and the differences between life as a student, a NASA engineer, and now a full-time flight test engineer. Kate dives into how she decided to leave a dream job to chase an even bigger one: choosing growth over comfort. The conversation also covers confidence in technical spaces, balancing ambition with relationships, and how running strengthens Kate’s mindset in aerospace. This conversation is REAL, inspiring, and applicable! !
February 2 · 28 min
Answering YOUR Aerospace Questions
In this episode, Paige answers YOUR questions about her background, aerospace, and advice. She shares how she got into space, along with her high school journey. Paige breaks down the differences between aerospace, mechanical, and astronautical engineering while discussing the real pros and cons of the field. She also responds to questions about struggling with math, choosing between engineering and astrophysics, and navigating uncertainty in your career path. This episode is packed with practical advice for students who are finding their place in space. Find my socials here
January 19 · 24 min
The Astrophysicist Variant of Elle Woods: Dr. Clary
In this episode, Paige sits down with astrophysicist Dr. Clary Rizzo to talk about her journey from childhood curiosity to direct imaging of exoplanets. They explore how early research experiences shaped Clary’s path. Clary opens up about embracing femininity in the space industry and navigating what it means to be taken seriously while staying true to herself. She shares what life looks like now as a postdoctoral researcher at Caltech/JPL and what excites her most about her work. The conversation closes with heartfelt advice on kindness, perseverance, and finding the people who make the hard moments worth it. Check out thatastrogirlie here!
Dec 23, 2025 · 36 min
Networking 101 with Flight Controller Jack Tanner
In this episode, Jack Tanner, a fellow flight controller, and I have an unapologetically real conversation about networking in engineering. He shares his “networking origin story,” and breaks down three practical networking steps for beginners. He shares animated stories of awkward moments and lessons learned, revealing how initiative and kindness are the foundation of networking. We close by mentioning our networking pet peeves, with an emphasis on the importance of specificity and authenticity. Enjoy this episode!! Connect with Jack on LinkedIn here! Disclaimer: My personal social media communications only reflect my personal views and do not represent the views of my employer or associated organizations.
Dec 8, 2025 · 22 min
Building Knowledge and Confidence: Emily Hesby
In this episode, Paige sits down with aerospace engineer Emily Hesby. Together, they unpack the challenges and rewards of dedicating years to a student propulsion team, including how to grow one's confidence. Emily also shares stories from her SpaceX internships -- including her first impressions of Starbase -- and what truly sets exceptional interns apart. Connect with Emily!
Nov 24, 2025 · 37 min
NASA Pathways Intern Santiago Garza
Disclaimer: All opinions and advice in this episode are personal and do not reflect that of NASA or the United States Government. In this episode of Space Spiels, Paige sits down with NASA Pathways intern Santiago Garza to explore the winding path that brought him into aerospace. Santiago shares how a career counselor helped him discover what he truly wanted to study, why he chose Texas A&M, and how he navigated paying for college with transparency and honesty. He breaks down his Pathways application process (NOTE: this may be outdated), what he thinks helped him stand out, and his experience completing multiple tours. We talk about extending graduation, balancing industry experience with school, and the moments of self-doubt he had to push through along the way. Santiago closes with grounded, thoughtful advice for students hoping to follow a similar path. Connect with Santiago on LinkedIn
Nov 10, 2025 · 21 min
The First Syrian Glider Pilot: Sana Jumah
In this episode, Paige talks with Sana, an Elevate(her) ambassador who discovered her passion for gliding by simply following her curiosity, not overthinking, just doing. She shares the thrill of “switching off” once airborne and the moment she realized she might be the first female Syrian glider pilot. Sana opens up about the courage it takes to “take the unlit road,” embracing bravery in both flight and life. Through her journey, she highlights the power of community and connection found within Elevate(her) and encourages others to chase what lights them up. Follow Sana here Check out Elevate(her) Aviation Disclaimer: I am a contractor intern at NASA! my personal social media communications about NASA only reflect my personal views and do not represent the views of NASA or the United States Government.
Oct 27, 2025 · 37 min
Handling Rejection and Pursuing Passion w/ LCDR Kellie Sbrocci
Paige chats with Naval officer and creator Kellie Sbrocchi about her journey from the U.S. Naval Academy to building a platform that encourages others to “Do Both.” Kellie shares how she learned to balance discipline and creativity, from running track and managing academics to embracing fashion, pageantry, and social media. She opens up about facing criticism, handling rejection, and staying confident while pursuing multiple passions in a male-dominated field. The conversation highlights the importance of rest, resilience, and giving yourself permission to thrive in every part of your life. Follow Kellie here https://kelliesbrocchi.com/ Instagram | Podcast | TikTok Disclaimer: I am a contractor intern at NASA! my personal social media communications about NASA only reflect my personal views and do not represent the views of NASA or the United States Government.
Jun 16, 2025 · 2 min
It's Been 2 Years: SEASON 2 FINALE
In this short update, I reflect on what Space Spiels has taught me and look forward to the Season 3 premiere in a few months. Thank you all for everything! Space Spiels Instagram

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