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Pulpit Fiction Podcast

Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler

Pulpit Fiction is a podcast hosted by Rev. Eric Fistler and Rev. Robb McCoy. It is a conversation guided by the Revised Common Lectionary, and includes thoughts about pop culture and current events. It is for preachers looking for inspiration as well as any person of faith willing to think critically about their faith and the Bible.

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  • November 8 · 51 min

    699: Buried Talents, Borrowed Courage and Better Investments (Proper 28A / OT33)

    Notes Matthew 25:14-30 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy delve into the Parable of the Talents from Matthew 25, discussing themes of stewardship, faithfulness, and the implications of risk in the context of church endowments and community service. They explore the balance between fear and faithfulness in how individuals and churches manage their resources, emphasizing the importance of investing in the kingdom of God rather than merely accumulating wealth. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of these teachings for church growth and community engagement. In this conversation, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore the themes of wealth, community, and the importance of encouragement within the church. They discuss the tension between prosperity and kingdom work, emphasizing the need for churches to collaborate rather than compete. The conversation also touches on the call to stay awake and be prepared for challenges, as well as the nature of peace and security in a community context. Ultimately, they highlight the significance of building each other up in faith and the communal aspect of salvation. Chapters 00:00 Episode 699: readings, hosts, and election-week context 06:43 Matthew 25: the parable of the talents 09:10 Why the parable is not a prosperity-gospel lesson 14:14 A talent meant 20 years of wages 17:08 Investing the gifts of life in the kingdom 23:04 Church resources, partnerships, and kingdom work 28:40 Matthew's parable compared with Luke's version 30:55 Sanctified Art's Advent resources and webinar 34:19 1 Thessalonians 5: stay awake and encourage one another 39:57 Questioning "peace and security" and the Pax Romana 43:06 Salvation, mutual support, and communal faithfulness 46:23 Read on: comfort the discouraged and pursue the good

  • November 1 · 50 min

    698: Bridesmaids, Borrowed Light and Better Hope (Proper 27A / OT32) 11/8/2026

    Notes Matthew 25:1-13 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler explore the themes of preparation and faith through the lens of Matthew 25:1-13, the Parable of the Bridesmaids. They discuss the significance of Advent, the context of the parable, and the importance of being spiritually prepared for the unexpected. The conversation delves into the absurdity of the parable, the challenges of faith, and the role of community in supporting one another during difficult times. In this conversation, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore themes of judgment, community, and hope as they discuss the implications of death and the rapture theology found in Thessalonians. They emphasize the importance of understanding these concepts within the context of faith and community, while also addressing the dangers of misinterpretation in theology. The discussion culminates in a call to reclaim the language of the second coming, encouraging a deeper exploration of hope and reunion in faith. Chapters 00:00 Lectionary readings and the approach of Advent 04:36 Matthew 25: the ten bridesmaids and the closed door 06:09 Why preachers can admit a parable is difficult 11:09 Jesus' final discourse and the choice between life and death 13:19 Readiness as a life, not a last-minute act 16:10 Matthew's community and the delayed return of Jesus 19:24 The parable's absurd details and the meaning of transformation 21:33 What if the bridesmaids had waited in the darkness? 23:17 Sharing light, faith, and community 27:10 Letting hard passages remain open to interpretation 30:14 1 Thessalonians 4: comfort for people grieving 31:14 Why the passage is not a rapture blueprint 33:52 Preaching against rapture theology with care 37:16 "We will always be with the Lord" 41:11 Context, proof-texting, and the dangers of combining passages 45:04 Reading Thessalonians within its original community

  • November 1 · 57 min

    A 2016 Conversation with Rev. Adam Hamilton

    Reverend Adam Hamilton, founding pastor of Church of the Resurrection, joins hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy to discuss his book *Half Truths* and how familiar religious sayings can distort theology or wound people in crisis. They also talk about preaching through controversy, sustaining a demanding ministry, and Hamilton's work with a White House advisory council focused on poverty.

  • November 1 · 1 hr 13 min

    A 2014 Conversation with Rev. Adam Hamilton

    In this rebroadcast of a 2014 conversation, Pulpit Fiction hosts Rob McCoy and Eric Fistler speak with the Rev. Dr. Adam Hamilton, founding pastor of Church of the Resurrection and author of Making Sense of the Bible. Hamilton explains how historical context, the humanity of scripture, and the life of Jesus can help readers engage difficult biblical passages, then shares practical approaches to sermon planning, church unity, racial reconciliation, and building community in a large congregation.

  • October 26 · 47 min

    697: Proper 26A OT31 (11/1/2026)

    Notes Matthew 23:1-12 1 Thessalonians 2:9-13 summary In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy discuss the lectionary readings for November 1st, 2026, focusing on themes of humility, legacy, and the importance of community engagement. They celebrate milestones within their congregations, reflect on All Saints Day, and navigate the complexities of discussing elections within a faith context. The conversation delves into Matthew 23, emphasizing the critique of religious authority and the dangers of hypocrisy, while also highlighting the need for genuine action over mere virtue signaling. In this conversation, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore the themes of generosity, justice, and the relational dynamics within the early Christian community. They discuss the importance of integrating faith with action, particularly in the context of social issues like affordable housing. The dialogue also delves into Paul's relationship with the Thessalonians, emphasizing the mutual respect and care that characterized their interactions. Furthermore, they address the challenges and opposition faced by early Christians, highlighting the need for authenticity and humility in sharing the gospel. The episode concludes with practical resources for ministry, particularly in preparation for the Advent season. Chapters 00:00 Proper 26 readings and the episode's focus 01:43 Community celebrations, legacy, and advance directives 05:47 Preaching and voting before Election Day 08:06 Matthew 23: Jesus warns against religious status 09:13 Why the passage is an internal critique, not anti-Jewish polemic 12:24 From political complaints to faithful action 16:37 The Sermon on the Mount behind Matthew's warnings 20:16 Virtue signaling, stewardship, and justice 23:29 Titles of honor and the Jewish context of the debate 26:24 Advent resources and a longest-night liturgy 29:17 1 Thessalonians: ministry rooted in relationship 32:15 Paul's time in Thessalonica and the community's bond 35:49 Reading the difficult passage without anti-Semitism 39:07 Motives in evangelism, generosity, and church leadership 42:10 A community centered on Christ, not a pastor

  • October 18 · 1 hr 7 min

    696: Proper 25A OT29 (10/25/2026)

    Notes Matthew 22:34-46 Deuteronomy 34:1-12 1 Thessalonians 2:1-8 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler discuss the lectionary readings for the week, focusing on the greatest commandment from Matthew, the death of Moses from Deuteronomy, and the implications of these texts for faith and community. They reflect on the importance of asking questions in faith, the role of love in the Christian mission, and the legacy of Moses as a leader. The conversation emphasizes the need for engagement and understanding in theological discussions, as well as the significance of community service and support. In this conversation, Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler explore the themes surrounding the death of Moses, the conclusion of the Torah, and the significance of choosing life over mere destination. They discuss the importance of lamentation in contemporary culture, particularly in the context of loss and grief, and how it relates to moving forward as a community. The conversation transitions into the teachings of Thessalonians, emphasizing the call to community and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in a world that often values popularity over truth. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the episode and guest 04:11 Overview of the week's lectionary passages 07:49 The question about the Messiah's identity 11:53 The importance of questions in faith and theology 14:08 Legalism, debate, and the wisdom of Jesus 15:58 The love of God, neighbor, and self as a mission 19:52 The challenge of authentic engagement and questions 21:49 The variations of the Great Commandment in Scripture 24:10 Understanding the Hebrew concepts of heart, soul, and strength 25:54 The biblical roots of loving one's neighbor 28:06 The importance of justice and compassion in love 30:10 The death of Moses and its theological reflections 33:58 Moses' final moments and leadership transition 36:06 The end of the Torah and the journey of Israel 37:56 The promise and ambiguity of the promised land 40:05 The ongoing journey of faith and community 41:55 Lamentation, mourning, and moving forward 44:11 The cultural and spiritual significance of mourning periods 46:03 The importance of lament and shared grief 47:53 The influence of culture on faith and leadership 50:08 Reflections on community, leadership, and legacy 52:10 The call to love and serve in faith 53:46 The challenge of authenticity and vulnerability 56:05 The influence of culture on Christian leadership 57:48 The importance of sharing our lives and struggles 59:48 The dangers of seeking popularity over faithfulness 01:01:51 The role of influence and humility in ministry 01:03:52 Supporting the podcast and community engagement 01:05:00 Closing thoughts and gratitude

  • October 12 · 59 min

    695: Proper 24A OT28 (10/18/2026)

    Notes Matthew 22:15-22 Exodus 33:12-23 1 Thessalonians 1:1-10 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy explore the lectionary texts for the week, including Matthew 22, Exodus 33, and First Thessalonians. They discuss the significance of these passages for preaching and the themes of hypocrisy, divine presence, and stewardship. The conversation highlights the relationship between Jesus and the Pharisees, as well as Moses' request to see God's glory. The hosts encourage listeners to engage deeply with scripture and reflect on their faith. In this conversation, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore the intimate dialogue between Moses and God, emphasizing the nature of faith, the mystery of God, and the importance of community. They discuss the context of First Thessalonians, highlighting the significance of gratitude and the joy of serving in the church. The conversation encourages listeners to embrace uncertainty in their faith journey while recognizing the communal aspect of being chosen by God. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Pulpit Fiction Podcast 03:42 Exploring the Texts: Matthew, Exodus, and Thessalonians 04:12 The Tax Trap: Jesus and the Pharisees 25:22 Moses in the Presence of the Lord 30:04 Moses and God's Intimate Dialogue 35:16 The Nature of Faith and Certainty 39:00 Embracing the Mystery of God 42:00 Introduction to First Thessalonians 44:06 Understanding the Context of Thessalonica 47:57 Celebrating Community and Gratitude 51:04 The Joy of Serving and Imitating Christ

  • September 28 · 55 min

    693: Proper 22A OT27 (10/4/2026)

    Notes Matthew 21:33-46 Exodus 20:1-4, 7-9, 12-20 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy delve into the parable of the wicked tenants from Matthew 21. They explore the implications of the parable in the context of Jewish leadership and the rejection of prophets, emphasizing the need for accountability and the importance of producing good fruits in ministry. The conversation highlights the role of empathy and transformation in addressing issues of injustice and the call for churches to reflect on their impact in the community. The episode also touches on the significance of stewardship and the responsibility of congregations to care for the least of these. In this episode, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy delve into the themes of worship, the significance of the Ten Commandments, and the relevance of the Sabbath in contemporary life. They explore the importance of benedictions in worship, the need for a holistic understanding of the commandments, and the implications of misusing God's name. The conversation emphasizes the commandments' role in fostering community and justice, while also challenging listeners to examine their priorities and the cultural relevance of these ancient laws. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Parable of the Wicked Tenants 02:28 Context of the Parable in Matthew 21 04:00 Jesus' Parable and Its Immediate Response 05:22 Historical and Theological Interpretations 07:38 Addressing Anti-Semitism and Misinterpretations 09:15 Justice, Injustice, and Modern Applications 12:02 Hope and New Leadership in the Parable 16:37 The Role of Empathy and Compassion 22:51 God's Response and the Rejection of Violence 24:38 Invitation to Justice and Transformation 27:43 Sanctified Art Advent Resources 31:21 Exodus 20 and the Ten Commandments 34:16 The Heart of the Commandments: Love and Rest 39:40 Living the Commandments Today 44:31 Misusing the Name of God and Justice 48:15 Universal Humanity and the Commandments 50:22 Justice in Society and Economy 52:13 Closing and Call to Reflection

  • September 20 · 53 min

    692: Proper 21A OT26 (9/27/2026)

    Notes Matthew 21:23-32 Exodus 17:1-7 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler delve into the Gospel of Matthew, focusing on the theme of authority as Jesus confronts the religious leaders. They explore the implications of the parable of the two sons, discussing how authority is perceived and challenged in contemporary ministry. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing the voices of marginalized individuals and the transformative nature of Jesus' message. In this episode, Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler discuss the importance of conviction and truth in faith, the resources available for understanding scripture, and the lessons from Exodus about community and leadership. They emphasize the need for compassion and sustained care in addressing the basic needs of individuals, while also exploring the role of faith in fostering a supportive community. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Pulpit Fiction Podcast 01:00 Gospel Reading and Contextual Setup 05:00 Exploring Authority in the Gospel of Matthew 13:46 The Parable of the Two Sons and Its Implications 21:00 The Nature of Authority and Its Relevance Today 26:07 The Power of Conviction and Truth 28:14 Resources for Understanding Scripture 33:36 Exploring Exodus: Water from the Rock 49:20 Community and Leadership in Faith

  • September 13 · 47 min

    691: Proper 20A OT25 (9/20/2026)

    Notes Matthew 20:1-16 Exodus 16:2-15 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy delve into the parable of the Workers in the Vineyard from Matthew 20:1-16. They explore themes of fairness, grace, and the nature of the Kingdom of God, challenging traditional perceptions of work and reward. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the broader context of the parable and the absurdity of grace, ultimately highlighting that in God's kingdom, everyone receives enough to meet their needs. In this episode, the hosts explore themes of generosity, community, and divine provision through the lens of Dolly Parton's legacy and biblical narratives. They discuss the importance of trusting in God's provision as illustrated in the Exodus story, the significance of the Sabbath, and the need for community engagement and support. The conversation emphasizes the idea of 'enough' and the role of generosity in fostering a caring community.

  • September 7 · 51 min

    690: Proper 19A OT24 (9/13/2026)

    Notes Matthew 18:21-35 Exodus 14:19-31 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler delve into the theme of forgiveness as presented in the Gospel of Matthew. They explore the parable of the unforgiving servant, emphasizing the importance of mercy and the interconnectedness of community. The discussion highlights the complexities of forgiveness, the role of debt in the Lord's Prayer, and the challenges posed by rising Christian nationalism. The episode also touches on the church's mission to embody forgiveness and the resources available for sermon preparation. In this conversation, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore various themes related to worship, children's engagement, and the biblical narrative of the parting of the Red Sea. They discuss resources for children's worship, the significance of the Red Sea story as a defining moment for the Israelites, and the dual narratives of liberation and destruction present in the biblical accounts. The conversation culminates in a reflection on the importance of choosing life and well-being for all, emphasizing the need for reconciliation and community affirmation in faith practices. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and overview of the week's texts 04:28 Matthew 18: The call to forgive endlessly 06:28 The parable of the unforgiving servant explained 09:20 The theological meaning of forgiveness and grace 12:21 Economic and social dimensions of debt and forgiveness 17:37 Biblical foundations of forgiveness and community 22:21 The story of the Red Sea crossing as liberation 30:31 The significance of the Red Sea in biblical theology 36:58 Different biblical accounts of the Red Sea story 44:37 Remembering and living out the story of liberation

  • August 31 · 53 min

    689: Proper 18A OT23 (9/6/2026)

    Notes Matthew 18:15-20 Exodus 12:1-14 In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Eric Fistler and Rob McCoy explore the themes of conflict resolution, community, and reconciliation as presented in the Gospel of Matthew. They reflect on the legacy of Dolly Parton and the importance of direct communication in resolving conflicts. The conversation emphasizes the challenges of addressing systemic sin within communities and the complexities of forgiveness. Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, the hosts encourage listeners to engage in difficult conversations and to approach relationships with love and grace. In this conversation, Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler delve into the complexities of forgiveness, reconciliation, and the significance of the Passover narrative. They explore the challenges of understanding biblical texts, particularly those that involve violence and suffering, while emphasizing the importance of community and liberation. The discussion transitions into the meaning of communion as a 'moving meal' that invites participants to engage actively in their faith and community. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Matthew 18 and conflict resolution 02:01 The importance of face-to-face reconciliation 04:01 Humility and vulnerability in community 05:59 The systemic nature of sin and justice 07:59 Loving enemies and outsiders 09:49 The moving meal and community identity 12:01 Dealing with high conflict and high emotion 14:08 The role of systemic sin and collective responsibility 15:56 The invitation to soften hearts and change 18:13 The ongoing work of reconciliation and love

  • August 23 · 53 min

    688: Proper 17A OT22 (8/30/2026)

    In this episode of the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, hosts Robb McCoy and Eric Fistler discuss the lectionary texts for Proper 17, focusing on Matthew 16:21-28, where Jesus predicts his suffering and challenges his disciples to understand the true nature of discipleship. They explore the implications of following a Christ who leads to the cross, the cost of discipleship, and the importance of inviting transformation within the church community. The conversation also touches on contemporary issues such as climate change and the responsibilities of faith leaders. In this episode, Eric Fistler and Robb McCoy explore themes of calling, community service, and the significance of curiosity in faith. They discuss the challenges of volunteerism in church, the resources provided by Sanctified Art for worship, and delve into the biblical narrative of Moses and the burning bush. The conversation emphasizes the importance of curiosity in encountering the divine and the complexities of Moses' reluctant response to God's call, ultimately highlighting the relational aspect of faith and the call to serve others. Notes Matthew 16:21-28 Exodus 3:1-15 Chapters 00:00 Introduction and episode overview 01:55 Climate change and community updates 06:05 Good news from Matthew 16: Jesus predicts his suffering 12:10 Peter's declaration and Jesus' rebuke: from rock to stumbling block 19:46 The call to follow Jesus and take up the cross 32:12 Moses' encounter with the burning bush 40:02 The ordinariness of Moses' life and divine curiosity 49:59 God's call and Moses' reluctance 52:05 The significance of God's name 'I Am' and divine presence

  • August 18 · 1 hr 1 min

    REBROADCAST 555: Proper 16A for 8/23/2026

    8/23/2026 REBROADCAST 555: Proper 16A (August 27, 2023) Hello and welcome to the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, the lectionary podcast for preachers, seekers and Bible geeks. This is episode 555 for Sunday, August 27, 2023, Proper 16, Ordinary 21, Year A. Matthew 16:13-20 Who do you say that I am? Exodus 1:8-2:10 Shiphrah, Puah, and Miriam Romans 12:1-8 Living sacrifice with Robin Lovett-Owen

  • August 10 · 51 min

    686: Proper 15A OT20 (8/16/2026)

    Notes Matthew 15:(10-20) 21-28 Genesis 45:1-15 This episode explores the complex and transformative stories of Jesus' interactions with the Canaanite woman and the story of Joseph, highlighting themes of growth, forgiveness, and social justice. (00:00) Episode intro and the lectionary texts for Proper 15A (01:35) Listener emails, including Mabel Laird's insight on Matthew 21 (05:57) Matthew 15 begins: what contaminates a person and the Canaanite woman (08:24) Why verses 10 to 20 matter for the meaning of the story (10:54) Jesus as one who is challenged and changed (13:54) The theological risk of saying Jesus grew here (15:49) The feeding of the 4,000 and the meaning of the leftovers (17:00) The Canaanite woman will not be silenced (19:09) Why this reading matters politically now (20:28) Jesus' deeper debate about purity, harm, and righteousness (22:17) Feasting on the Word quote on radical hospitality (23:41) Strength in changing after losing the argument (24:06) Pharisees, Jewish debate, and internal theological conflict (26:47) Why the feeding of the 5,000 sets up the conflict (28:16) Face to face encounter versus abstract condemnation (30:55) Genesis 45: Joseph reveals himself to his brothers (33:01) Why verse 8 is the hardest line in the Joseph story (35:11) Forgiveness, race, and the pressure placed on the wounded (38:30) The danger of romanticizing forgiveness without truth (40:33) Privilege and the ability to ignore suffering (42:23) Joseph's forgiveness is his prerogative, not everyone's (44:19) God working for good without justifying evil (47:15) Modern parallels, including fear, power, and replacement anxieties (48:37) Closing announcements and support information

  • August 4 · 59 min

    685: Proper 14A OT19 (8/9/2026)

    Notes Matthew 14:22-33 Genesis 37:1-4, 12-28 In this episode, we explore the profound lessons from the story of Peter walking on water, emphasizing the importance of faith, self-trust, and the need for self-care in ministry. We discuss how these biblical insights can inspire and guide contemporary faith practices. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the episode and main themes 01:53 Jesus walking on water and the disciples' fear 05:07 Peter's bold request to walk on water 08:06 The significance of faith and doubt in the story 11:55 Jesus' encouragement and the meaning of 'little faith' 16:03 The importance of self-care and taking time for prayer 20:07 Lessons on failure, trying, and trusting in God 24:04 The paradox of boldness and humility in faith 27:50 Application to ministry and personal life 32:12 The story of Joseph and family cycles of favoritism 38:09 The brutal reality of family dysfunction and systemic injustice 43:52 The importance of honest storytelling and historical awareness 50:09 Hope, resilience, and the journey toward wholeness

  • July 28 · 50 min

    684: Proper 13A OT18 (8/2/2026)

    Notes Matthew 14:13-21 Genesis 32:22-31 Join us as we explore the rich biblical stories of the feeding of the five thousand and Jacob's wrestling with God, delving into themes of abundance, compassion, and faith's struggles. This episode offers deep insights into scripture's relevance for faith and life today. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the episode and biblical context 05:13 The feeding of the five thousand: story and significance 07:22 Reframing communion through the miracle of abundance 11:29 Contrast of banquets: violence vs. compassion 16:19 Psalm 23 and the Good Shepherd imagery 20:33 Temptations and the kingdom of God 22:12 Jesus' ministry of feeding and inclusion 33:25 Jacob's wrestling with God: story and symbolism 34:35 Jacob's encounter and transformation 40:31 Jacob's complex character and faith journey 42:04 God's naming of Jacob and the wrestling with identity 46:32 The importance of wrestling with faith and faults 48:52 Reflections on faith, forgiveness, and humility

  • July 20 · 56 min

    REBROADCAST 551: Proper 12A for 7/26/2026

    7/26/2026 REBROADCAST 551: Proper 12A (July 30, 2023) Welcome to the Pulpit Fiction Podcast, the lectionary podcast for preachers, seekers and Bible geeks. This is episode 551 for Sunday, July 30, 2023, Proper 12, Ordinary 17, Year A. Romans 8:26-39 Nothing Can Separate Us - No voice in the wilderness - checkout previous show. Matthew 13:31-33, 44-52 Mustard Seed, Yeast, Pearls and the Kingdom of God Genesis 29:15-28 Jacob's Sister Wives Robb hosting a men's retreat in Wheatland. Go to chmiowa.org, go to News and Events, select Prairie Calendar, then find his "Big Steppers" retreat.

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