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PSBTA Presents: Catching Wildfire (Audio)

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Join podcast hosts Chief Jeff Johnson (Ret.) and Chief Kim Zagaris (Ret.) as they are joined by experts in the field of preventing and fighting wildfires.

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S1 · E12
August 17 · 45 min
Episode 12: When the Maui Wildfires Collapsed the Grid: Command, Chaos, and Critical Connectivity
When the Maui Wildfires Collapsed the Grid: Command, Chaos, and Critical Connectivity What happens when a climate-driven, multi-front inferno knocks out cellular service and leaves hydrants dry? In this episode of Catching Wildfire, Maui Fire Chief Bradford Ventura joins Chief Jeff Johnson and Chief Kim Zagaris to deliver a raw, firsthand account of commanding a catastrophic disaster that burned through his own backyard. From the physical trauma of first responders losing their own homes to the rapid deployment of FirstNet deployables (CRDs) for emergency communications, this discussion outlines the critical gaps in modern disaster response. Discover how unprecedented local resilience and breaking down deep-seated institutional silos through unified police and fire training are rewriting the emergency management playbook. Learn more about the PSBTA and critical public safety advocacy at https://thepsbta.org/ Learn more about FirstNet at www.allthingsfirstnet.com
S1 · E11
July 17 · 46 min
Episode 11: Advancing Weather Intelligence for Public Safety
Wildfire isn’t just a "West Coast issue" anymore—it’s a growing threat that’s spreading across the entire country. But how do we actually stay ahead of it? In this episode of Catching Wildfire, I’m sitting down with Renny Vandewege, General Manager at DTN Weather, and my co-host, Chief Kim "Chief Z" Zagaris. We’re diving deep into the massive technological shift happening in public safety. We move past the old-school methods of fire tracking and look at how modern AI, high-res atmospheric modeling, and satellite data are actually being used by utilities, insurance, and fire agencies to predict wildfire impact before the first spark even happens. We also discuss why all that fancy tech is useless if you don't have reliable connectivity on the fire line—and why the human element (that "gut instinct") is still the most important part of the job. Whether you're in the fire service, working in public safety, or just curious about how we’re using data to solve these massive environmental threats, this one’s for you. Topics covered: Why wildfire risk is changing and spreading nationwide. The difference between just "forecasting weather" and "predicting impact." How AI is helping us model fire spread with insane precision. The critical role of connectivity (like FirstNet) in getting info to the front lines. Why the "old ways" of observing the weather still matter. Thanks for tuning in. Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more conversations on the future of fire safety and technology! For more information about FirstNet, visit www.allthingsfirstnet.com and subscribe to the newsletter.
S1 · E10
June 22 · 38 min
Episode 10: Innovating Incident Command with Tablet Command
In this episode of the Catching Wildfire podcast, hosts Jeff Johnson (Retired Executive Director for the Western Fire Chiefs) and Chief Kim Zagaris (Senior Wildfire Policy Adviser for the Western Fire Chiefs) sit down with Will Pigeon, the Co-Founder and CEO of Tablet Command. We explore how Tablet Command is revolutionizing the fire service by serving as a unified digital platform that drastically reduces the cognitive load on incident commanders. From its origins following a tragic line-of-duty death to becoming a critical "single pane of glass" for modern firefighters, Will explains how the platform integrates CAD, vehicle location, drone feeds, and mapping into one actionable interface. In this episode, we cover: The Origin Story: How a 2007 tragedy sparked the need for better accountability and digital incident management. Reducing Cognitive Load: Moving from manual whiteboards and memory-based management to intuitive, drag-and-drop digital command. The Power of Integration: How Tablet Command aggregates data from CAD, AVL, and partner technologies to provide a real-time "common operating picture." The Future of Fire Tech: Updates on WatchDuty partnerships, AI in incident reporting, and the importance of cross-agency interoperability. The Human Element: Why technology in public safety must be reliable, intuitive, and focused on keeping crews safe. -This is a must-watch for incident commanders, battalion chiefs, and anyone interested in the future of public safety technology. About the Guest: Will Pigeon is the Co-Founder and CEO of Tablet Command, a software platform designed to simplify incident command and improve situational awareness for emergency responders.
S1 · E9
May 18 · 32 min
Episode 9: The Future of Resilience
Are modern wildfires becoming impossible to stop? In this episode of Catching Wildfire, we dive into why the wildfire crisis has evolved into a "runaway structure fire" problem. The wildfire crisis in the U.S. has fundamentally evolved. It’s no longer just a wildland issue; it’s an urban conflagration problem. The current approach to wildfire management is struggling to address the escalating economic and physical scale of the problem. Solving this crisis requires moving beyond mere visceral reactions to fire. By integrating engineering principles into urban planning and prioritizing systemic radiation breaks, stakeholders can create a more sustainable environment that effectively bridges the gap between the limitations of current firefighting capabilities and the growing vulnerability of the built environment. We’re joined by David Torgerson, CEO of Wildfire Defense Systems, to discuss: 🔥 The science of urban conflagration and radiation-driven fire spread. 🏠 Why traditional insurance modeling is failing and how the market is shifting. 🛡️ How "pre-suppression" tactics are giving communities a fighting chance. 🏗️ Why the future of fire safety depends on engineering and smart urban planning, not just water and hoses. This is a must-watch for anyone interested in the future of emergency management, property insurance, and community resilience. Learn more about PSBTA at www.thepsbta.org #Wildfire #FireSafety #Insurance #EmergencyManagement #UrbanPlanning #PublicSafety #WildfireDefense #Infrastructure #Resilience #CatchingWildfire #psbta
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May 1 · 32 min
Episode 8: Autonomous Wildfire Response: Bridging the Gap Between Tech and Adoption
Could autonomous aircraft change the way we fight wildfires? 🚁🔥 In this episode of Catching Wildfire, we sit down with Maxwell Brodie, founder of RAIN, to explore the future of autonomous wildfire response. We discuss the transition from traditional firefighting to integrating advanced autonomous technology, the reality of "assistive" vs. "uncrewed" flight, and how to overcome the biggest hurdle in the fire service: adoption. Join hosts Chief Jeff Johnson and Chief Kim Zagaris as they break down the roadmap for bringing this life-saving technology from the lab to the frontlines of our forests. Key Topics Covered: Why "Autonomy" does not mean "Uncrewed" The history of aviation innovation in the fire service Overcoming the "Chicken and Egg" procurement problem How we can safely integrate new tech into existing air traffic procedures Guest: Maxwell Brodie, Founder of RAIN Hosts: Jeff Johnson (Retired Fire Chief) & Chief Kim Zagaris (Senior Policy Adviser, WFCA)
S1 · E7
March 30 · 48 min
Episode 7: Satellites Revolutionize Wildfire Management
Discover how cutting‑edge satellite technology is reshaping the future of wildland fire management. This episode dives into the shift from basic fire detection to advanced intensity assessment—unlocking proactive strategies, smarter decision‑making, and unprecedented situational awareness for fire professionals. You’ll hear how purpose‑built satellite systems, strategic funding, and a reimagined digital infrastructure are coming together to support beneficial fire practices, strengthen community safety, and transform wildfire response from reactive to data‑driven. What You’ll Learn: 🔥 Purpose‑Built Satellite Systems Brian Collins explains how next‑generation constellations like Firesat are being designed specifically for the real‑time, granular data needs of firefighters—far beyond what repurposed defense or weather satellites can provide. 🔥 Managing Fire Intensity Kate Dargen Marquis highlights how satellites now measure fire intensity, helping distinguish beneficial “good wildfire” from destructive “bad wildfire,” giving incident commanders more informed options. 🔥 The Digital Infrastructure Challenge Chief Kim Zagaris discusses the need to overhaul fragmented public safety systems so they can integrate massive streams of real‑time satellite data across thousands of PSAPs and CAD systems. 🔥 Philanthropy as a Catalyst Learn how philanthropic partners are accelerating innovation, de‑risking early development, and paving the way for future investment in critical fire‑tech solutions. 🔥 A Predictable Wildfire Future Experts envision a world where wildfire behavior is modeled and forecasted like hurricanes—supported by universal connectivity and comprehensive data. Memorable Quote: "We need wildfire. We need good wildfire. And sometimes good wildfire and bad wildfire… the thing that’s the differentiator is the intensity of it." — Kate Dargen Marquis #WildfireTechnology #FireManagement #SatelliteTechnology #WildlandFire #EmergencyResponse #PublicSafety #FireScience #CatchingWildfirePodcast #InnovationInFireTech #SituationalAwareness #GoodFire #BadFire #Firesat #FireServiceLeadership
S1 · E6
February 12 · 34 min
Episode 6: Revolutionizing Evacuation Management with Genasys
Genasys is transforming public safety by providing a zone-based, end-to-end communication platform that delivers precise, actionable evacuation instructions to residents in under five minutes. From Acoustic Hardware to Integrated Software: Genasys originally gained prominence with Long Range Acoustic Devices (LRAD) for military use. Today, it has evolved into a comprehensive protective communications company. By integrating the "Zonehaven" platform, they provide a seamless flow of information from the first responder on the scene to the resident’s smartphone and outdoor warning speakers. This technology is a vital tool for modern incident commanders, significantly reducing their cognitive load during the chaotic early stages of a disaster. By shifting from reactive, broad-based warnings to a proactive, zone-based management system, public safety leaders can fulfill their core mission: the protection of life. Whether facing wildfires, floods, or active shooter situations, the precision and speed of Genasys ensure that communities are better prepared to move out of harm's way efficiently. #firefighter #wildfire #firefighting #evacuation #genasys #CatchingWildfire #firesafety #public
S1 · E5
Dec 8, 2025 · 43 min
Episode 5: Fire Service Leadership and Wildfire Technology with Chief Fennessy
On this episode of Catching Wildfire, join Chief Jeff Johnson, Chief Kim Zagaris, and Chief Brian Fennessy as they discuss how effective leadership in the modern fire service requires a commitment to authenticity, a willingness to embrace technological innovation, and the persistence to overcome systemic resistance to change. This conversation serves as a powerful mentorship session, capturing wisdom from seasoned fire service leaders. It underscores the idea that while the core mission of firefighting remains, the tools, tactics, and leadership philosophies must evolve. The key takeaway for current and future leaders is the need to balance respect for tradition with an urgent embrace of new technologies and a leadership style founded on humility, persistence, and a deep, service-oriented heart. Chief Fennessy began his career in 1978 with the US Department of Agriculture's United States Forest Service and the US Department of Interior's Bureau of Land Management working as a hotshot crewmember, hotshot/helishot/helitack captain and ultimately crew superintendent. In 1990, Fennessy joined the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department (SDFD) and ultimately became Chief of the Department in 2015. One of his many accomplishments while with the SDFD was developing & establishing a multi-mission Fire/Rescue/EMS helicopter program designed to serve the citizens of the City of San Diego and the region. Chief Fennessy has enjoyed a diversity of executive leadership and management experiences in both the wildland fire and metropolitan fire service communities. He believes that Mission-Driven Culture (MDC) is the future of the fire service and has presented on this topic at a variety of local, state, and national venues. #catchingwildfire #publicsafety #fire #psbta #firstnet #leadership #wildfire
S1 · E4
Nov 7, 2025 · 32 min
Episode 4: Sonim Technologies & the Future of Public Safety
In this powerful episode of Catching Wildfire, Chief Jeff Johnson is joined by Michael Coad, Head of Product at Sonim Technologies, and Chief Zagaris, retired California State Fire & Rescue Chief. Together, they explore how Sonim’s ultra-rugged mobile devices are transforming wildfire response and public safety communications. 📱 Key Highlights: The origin and impact of Sonim’s Band 14 FirstNet-enabled devices Introduction of the XP Pro Thermal with FLIR imaging for hotspot detection and search & rescue Launch of Mega Connect, a portable 5G high-power hotspot supporting up to 64 devices Explanation of MegaRange and how it boosts connectivity up to 6x in remote areas Sonim’s commitment to ruggedness, mission-critical audio, and FirstNet certification Future innovations: high-power phones, off-cellular comms, satellite support, and AI-enhanced imaging 💡 Whether you're a firefighter, emergency responder, or tech enthusiast, this episode dives deep into the tools that keep first responders connected, safe, and effective—no matter the conditions. #WildfireResponse #PublicSafety #FirstNet #SonimTechnologies #MegaConnect #ThermalImaging #CatchingWildfirePodcast #EmergencyTech #FirefighterTools #fire https://www.sonimtech.com/ https://thepsbta.org/catching-wildfire/
S1 · E4
Oct 16, 2025 · 31 min
PSBTA: Catching Wildfire - Summit Special Edition
During the 2025 Vision Summit, the Catching Wildfire podcast hosted the leaders representing the FirstNet public/private partnership. Chief Kim Zagaris had the opportunity to sit down with Scott Agnew, President of FirstNet, Built with AT&T, and Jeff Bratcher, Deputy Executive Director, Office of Operations and Chief Technology Officer with the First Responder Network Authority (FirstNet Authority). This special edition podcast focuses on the origins of the FirstNet technical vision, the interactions and expectations between FirstNet, Built with AT&T and the FirstNet Authority to manage responses to wildfires, how the sustainable FirstNet reinvestment model ensures service and expansion of the network, and future forward actions benefitting public safety. To learn more about FirstNet, Built with AT&T, please visit www.firstnet.com To learn more about the FirstNet Authority, please visit www.firstnet.gov #firstnet #wildfire #psbta #FNA #publicsafety
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Oct 13, 2025 · 41 min
Episode 3: WUI Wildfire Mitigation and Community Protection
Welcome back to our podcast! On this episode, our hosts, Chief Jeff Johnson and Chief Kim Zagaris, are joined by Chief David Winnacker to discuss the art of strategically staging resources and tools to effectively combat wildfires. Chief Winnacker shares the challenges and successes of his efforts to create a common operating picture for fire response. Chief Winnacker also speaks to the importance of developing and mentoring the next generation of talent in the fire service. Chief Dave Winnacker is a retired fire chief who served in the fire service for 21 years, including his tenure as chief of the Moraga-Orinda Fire District from 2017 to 2024. He has a background in the Marine Corps, where he served as an infantry officer and later as the Commanding Officer of the 4th Force Reconnaissance Company. Currently, he is a Hoover Institution Veteran Fellow at Stanford University, focusing on wildfire risk and property insurance. He has also been involved in developing strategic wildfire risk reduction plans and has co-founded companies like ZoneHaven and XyloPlan Risk. You can also stream our podcast on all major platforms. Learn more about the PSBTA and Catching Wildfire at www.thepsbta.org #publicsafety #fire #emergencyresponse #wildfire #psbta
S1 · E2
Oct 9, 2025 · 42 min
Episode 2: How Fire Apparatus Data and Software are Changing Fire and EMS Operations
Welcome back to Catching Wildfire! On this episode, Chief Jeff Johnson and Chief Kim Zagaris speak with David Blankinship, President of Emergent. David shares how his background has contributed to the technical evolutions and innovations at Emergent. During the episode, they delve into how Emergent's fire apparatus hotspots and architectural design are making a difference in the fire industry. About David Blankinship: David has over 25 years of experience in Public Safety. He started in the Colorado Springs Fire Department and served as the Senior GIS Analyst applying technology to all-hazard risk analysis, tactical fireground support for major incidents and multiple national deployments. He has co-founded multiple Public Safety startups, including Intterra, an analytics and geospatial situational awareness company that produces software for public safety supporting municipal operations, wildland firefighting, performance analysis and pre-planning. In 2020, he began serving as an Executive on Loan to the Western Fire Chiefs Association (WFCA) as the Senior Technology Advisor. In this role, he develops new technology use cases, problem solving for solutions at scale. He curates a portfolio of technology companies, and employs a standardized technology evaluation methodology to assist Public Safety Organizations effectively understand which technologies are best for them. In 2021, after a successful exit from Intterra, he became the President of Emergent. This focuses on building a new generation in-field applications to firefighters, reducing cognitive demand for the front line of first responders during pressure-filled situations and a radical new paradigm for Public Safety interoperability. In addition to being the President of Emergent and the Senior Technology Advisor to the Western Chiefs, he serves on both the International Association of Fire Chiefs (IAFC) Technology Council and the WFCA Technology Committee. He is actively involved in local, state, and national initiatives addressing public safety technology, communications, policy, and risk initiatives. For more information about Catching Wildfire, visit: https://thepsbta.org/catching-wildfire/ To learn more about Emergent, please visit: https://www.emergent.tech/ #publicsafety #wildfire #emergent #catchingwildfire #psbta #firstnet
S1 · E1
Oct 9, 2025 · 36 min
Episode 1: How AlertCalifornia Wildfire Cameras Transform Early Detection
Catching Wildfire: Cutting-edge technologies and innovations in wildfire In this inaugural episode of the Catching Wildfire podcast series, Chief Jeff Johnson (Ret.) and Chief Kim Zagaris are joined by Dr. Neal Driscoll as they discuss the Alert West Wildfire Camera & Sensor Networks used to detect wildfires on the West Coast. Dr. Neal Driscoll is the principal investigator of the ALERTCalifornia program at the University of California San Diego, where he is a professor of geology and geophysics at Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Driscoll’s background in natural hazard research traces back more than 35 years. He has published more than 120 manuscripts in high impact peer-reviewed journals, including Science, Nature Geoscience, Geology, and the Journal of Geophysical Research on subjects ranging from earthquake hazards to devastating wildfires., He has received multiple awards during his career, including the Heezen and Storke Awards for excellence in research and UC San Diego’s inaugural Undergraduate Teaching Award. Driscoll has also appeared in articles published by The Associated Press, The New York Times, CBS News, The Los Angeles Times, KGTV, KPBS and other notable news outlets. Driscoll received his Ph.D. in geology and geophysics from Columbia University and worked as an associate research scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Falmouth, MA before joining UC San Diego in 2000. His research interests at Scripps Oceanography include landscape and seascape evolution in response to tectonic deformation, sea-level fluctuations, climate, neotectonics, and geohazards. #fireprevention #wildfire #psbta #publicsafety #technology #innovations

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