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Outrage + Optimism

Persephonica and Global Optimism

Outrage + Optimism is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.



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  • Sep 6, 2019 · 49 min

    20. Adaptation is Survival with Emma Howard Boyd

    In a moment where a 1.5 to 2 degree world waits on our doorstep, how will we prepare for the inevitable risks of climate change? This week, we sit down with Chair of the Environment Agency, and UK Commissioner for Global Commission on...

  • Aug 30, 2019 · 46 min

    19. Climate Justice is Social Justice with Isra Hirsi

    This week, as Greta arrives in New York after her 2 week long sailing journey to the UN, Christiana, Paul, and Tom weigh in on how the world is feeling a collective shift in momentum from national movements to global movements. Later on in the episode...

  • Aug 22, 2019 · 44 min

    18. Getting Outraged by Lies with Bill Nye

    This week: Returning back from holidays and a rumored visit to jail, Christiana, Paul, and Tom talk with living science legend Bill Nye the Science Guy about how we combat climate denialism with both outrage and optimism! Bill shares his thoughts on...

  • Aug 21, 2019 · 26 min

    BONUS: Outrage and Optimism on The BBC

    This week we bring you a bonus episode of an interview we did on the BBC Radio. We talk the origins of Tom, Paul, and Christiana's everlasting friendship and how we got former Prime Minister of the UK, Theresa May, on the podcast. Kind of fun to flip...

  • Aug 15, 2019 · 35 min

    17. How Canada Came Back with Catherine McKenna

    With Canada's warming rate blazing at a speed of two times the normal rate of growing global temperatures, the clock is ticking. This week, Paul and Christiana discuss the triumphant return of Canada to the table on global climate talks after a decade...

  • Aug 9, 2019 · 32 min

    16. "Thank You for Being Late" with Tom Friedman

    While we're still all on holiday or out to lunch, the climate is still changing. Our co-host Tom joins us with his daughter, Zoe, and her friend, Bethan, for an insightful brief on what 8 and 10 year olds can be doing to save the environment. Later in...

  • Aug 1, 2019 · 36 min

    15. Lobbying for "Clean" Coal with John Ashford

    This week we confront the argument for clean coal head on in a conversation with famous DC lobbyist, John Ashford. John is the CEO and chairman of Hawthorn Group, an international public affairs and public relations firm he co-founded in 1992. John is...

  • Jul 26, 2019 · 53 min

    14. Outrage + Optimism LIVE Q+A!

    Last week we asked all of you to submit your burning questions on climate change, and this week we answer them LIVE and on the air! Questions came in from all around the world, and we tackle them head on. We discuss if having children is being...

  • Jul 18, 2019 · 40 min

    13. Seeking Fairness in an Unfair World with Angel Gurría

    This week we ask, “In a fair world, who shares the responsibility of reducing carbon emissions?” Christiana goes for a run and comes back with an insightful metaphor to help us, Tom shares about his trip to coal country in West Virginia, and Paul...

  • Jul 12, 2019 · 48 min

    12. Learning to Live with Grief and Joy with AURORA

    This week we're taking a break from our normal policy discussions to figure out how to embrace both hope and despair in these difficult times. Christiana reveals her inner dialog of wrestling with how to sustain her "stubborn optimism," and Tom and...

  • Jul 4, 2019 · 40 min

    11. All about EU with Miguel Arias Cañete

    This week we turn our attention to the EU where there has been an attempt to increase the target of all member states to net zero by 2050. We talk about what happened, why this wasn’t adopted, and what can be done to ensure the EU stays in the...

  • Jun 28, 2019 · 42 min

    10. Trumps' Roll Back of Science with Gina McCarthy

    This week we explore the roll back of President Obama’s Clean Power Plan by the Trump EPA and the replacement with a new rule that will increase emissions and damage human health. We also explore the wider attack on science taking place inside the...

  • Jun 19, 2019 · 26 min

    9. Net Zero Legacy with Theresa May

    This week we bring you a special episode featuring a conversation between Christiana Figueres and Prime Minister Theresa May. In her final weeks in office, Mrs May has introduced a target of net zero emissions by 2050 for the UK. In this exclusive...

  • Jun 11, 2019 · 47 min

    8. Finding Refuge with David Miliband

    Ahead of World Refugee Day on 20th June, we explore how climate change is magnifying the impacts of the refugee crisis around the world, and what the future solutions and challenges ahead of us might be. Christiana and Tom also talk with David...

  • Jun 7, 2019 · 34 min

    7. Every Breath Matters with Dr. Arvind Kumar

    This week, Christiana, Tom and Paul explore the public health epidemic that is air pollution. We ask why it has taken so long for people to wake up to the fact that air pollution has such a devastating impact, especially on children, and we explore...

  • May 31, 2019 · 40 min

    6. Looking for Leadership with Ben Rhodes

    The Paris Agreement requires countries to increase their climate ambition every 5 years and the first test of that arrives in 2020. Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss the political outlook and which countries can lead this with the US so firmly out of...

  • May 24, 2019 · 38 min

    5. Everyone is Needed with Bill McKibben

    On the day of the second global school strike, Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss momentum so far and the proposed shift to a general climate strike involving everyone on 20th September. We also dig into what happened in the Australian elections that...

  • May 21, 2019 · 28 min

    BONUS: Striking for the Climate with Greta Thunberg

    On Friday 24th May the second global School Strike for the Climate will take place. In anticipation of this (and in support of it), we bring you a conversation between Christiana and Swedish teenager Greta Thunberg who started the school strike...

  • May 16, 2019 · 40 min

    4. Voting for a Future with Jay Inslee

    Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss whether campaigning for strong action on climate change can now actually win elections. We look at what’s happening in Australia and the US in relation to this and we sit down with Jay Inslee. Governor of the State...

  • May 9, 2019 · 43 min

    3. It's an Emergency with William Hague

    This week Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss what has been happening in the UK from mass civil disobedience to the declaration of a climate emergency and the first week without coal since 1882. We then discuss all this with William Hague, former Foreign...