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Outrage + Optimism

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Outrage + Optimism is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top climate news stories, go behind the scenes at crucial talks and ensure you stay informed and inspired ahead of what is set to be the consequential year for climate action.



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  • Feb 21, 2020 · 57 min

    40. John Kerry is Here and He's Not Messing Around

    The most consequential event this year in climate is the 2020 U.S. Election. Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gets real with us on why some people should be held criminally liable for not acting on climate science, why he's optimistic about...

  • Feb 7, 2020 · 48 min

    38. Not All Superheroes Wear Capes with Oliver Bäte

    This week a special guest drops in to chat with the gang! Hint: He's a "High Level Climate Action Champion" (what a title!) They talk what is crucial to the lead up to COP 26 and why ambition is the heart of driving results this year on climate. Later...

  • Jan 31, 2020 · 58 min

    37. The Courage and The Clear Sight of Luisa Neubauer

    At just 23 years of age, Luisa Neubauer is fighting for our future in ways that will shape the future of activism and corporate responsibility forever. A best selling author and #FridaysFor Future activist, Luisa got the attention of the CEO of...

  • Jan 23, 2020 · 53 min

    36. The Great Australian Inferno with Kevin Rudd

    It's 2020! We're back! It's the "super year" for climate and the most consequential decade in human history! This week Tom and Christiana talk with former Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd. Kevin shows us the roots of why the Conservative Party...

  • Dec 20, 2019 · 45 min

    35. Richard Curtis Has an Optimism That Comes From His Outrage

    Tom and Christiana interview producer Richard Curtis. Richard is the creator of Bridget Jones Diary, Four Weddings and a Funeral, and Love Actually - but Richard's social work with Comic Relief, Make Poverty History, and the 10:10 campaign are equally...

  • Dec 13, 2019 · 53 min

    34. A Live Conversation with Chris Anderson from TED

    Tom has a in-depth conversation with Chris Anderson of TED and host of the TED Interview podcast. They speak on the history of The Paris Agreement and the ambition that TED has in the new global TEDCountdown initiative for 2020.  "The Future We...

  • Dec 6, 2019 · 40 min

    33. The Green Belt Movement with Wanjira Mathai

    This week we have an inspiring conversation with Wanjira Mathai as she talks about The Green Belt Movement, the interconnection of sustainability, and how to combat corruption & greed.  We discuss the announcement by the European Investment...

  • Nov 28, 2019 · 38 min

    32. Closing the Emissions Gap with Patricia Espinosa

    After a devastating UNEP Emissions Gap report details how governments are not doing enough to meet the 1.5C Paris Agreement target, Tom and Paul ask the question, "Can we still do this?" Later, Christiana joins her successor at the UNFCCC, Executive...

  • Nov 15, 2019 · 51 min

    30. Banking on the Climate with Mark Carney

    This week we drop in to talk money with the Governor of The Bank of England, Mark Carney. Mark is leading the way on banking with the climate in mind, keeping banks accountable for investments towards a Net-Zero 2050. We also discuss the ramifications...

  • Nov 8, 2019 · 44 min

    29. The Sounds of Antarctica: A Sonic Expedition!

    Back in January, Christiana set sail to Antarctica with Homeward Bound, A Global Leadership Initiative for Women with a STEMM background. This week, we play back her recordings, both interviews and immersive nature sounds, that take us on a sonic...

  • Nov 1, 2019 · 39 min

    28. What a Great IKEA with Jesper Brodin

    Tom and Christiana are in Costa Rica this week! They reminisce over their time at the UN and discuss how generating business ambition on climate led to national confidence in the Paris Agreement. Later on, Paul and Christiana talk with Jesper Brodin,...

  • Oct 25, 2019 · 39 min

    27. No Room for a Sinking Feeling with Hilda Heine

    In our new format, this week Tom, Christiana, and Paul bring in what they're optimistic for or outraged by to kick things off. Later on, we talk with President Hilda Heine of The Marshall Islands. We hear how she had never aspired to be President, how...

  • Oct 18, 2019 · 48 min

    26. Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast with Jonathan Safran Foer

    With a little too much going on in the world of climate change, we try something new this week with Christiana, Paul, and Tom each bringing something they are outraged by or optimistic for. Later, we hear from American novelist, Jonathan Safran Foer....

  • Oct 11, 2019 · 50 min

    25. Going Beyond Meat with Ethan Brown

    You've probably been seeing Beyond Meat showing up in your local grocery, your favorite restaurants, and major fast-food chains. But what exactly is it, and can it really help us solve the climate crisis? We talk with Ethan Brown, CEO of Beyond Meat...

  • Oct 4, 2019 · 42 min

    24. It's Time to Rebel with Gail Bradbrook

    This week, we prepare for mass civil disobedience with the International Rebellion beginning Monday, October 7th. We get on the line with Gail Bradbrook, co-founder of Extinction Rebellion and hear her explain the shared human experience behind mass...

  • Sep 27, 2019 · 45 min

    23. Innovating Breakthroughs with Sir Richard Branson

    It's been a busy week at the UNGA! We signed The Climate Pledge with Jeff Bezos from Amazon, saw world leaders stepping up their climate ambition, heard Greta Thunberg's scathing speech, and even had time to fire up the ol' anti-echo machine. Later in...

  • Sep 21, 2019 · 34 min

    22. The Calm Before The Summit with Amina J. Mohammed

    Caught in-between the massive demonstration of the Global Climate Strike, and the UN Climate Action Summit, Christiana sits down for an exclusive with UN Deputy Secretary-General, Amina J. Mohammed. Amina shares both her eager anticipation for...

  • Sep 16, 2019 · 44 min

    21. Stopping the Amazon Fires with Thomas Lovejoy

    Attention! The Global Climate Strike is on FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2019. Please go to www.globalclimatestrike.net to find the climate strike nearest to you! This week, we hear from The Godfather of Biodiversity, Thomas Lovejoy. He drops some knowledge...