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#25
Wednesday · 30 min
The Path of Honor
Jim and Alex take a break from running yet another software update to run through the news from the Atmosphere. The livestream gets its first spammer, which means we've made it. Links & Resources Developer experience goals for Spaces An intro to Atmospheric Groups Call for Participation for the AT Protocol devroom at FOSDEM 2027 AtmosphereConf 2027 Call for Presentations HappyProto Toni Schneider and Rose Wang introduce Attie Site Builder at TechCrunch Disrupt An Atmospheric For You Feed from spacecowboy did.bot The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-10-28-the-path-of-honor. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#24
October 14 · 1 hr 6 min
The Code is the Easy Part
At the beginning of this year, Matt Kane, a principal engineer at Cloudflare, found himself facing a question he'd been wondering about for some time: would it be possible to build a new WordPress? This time, though, he had a new tool that made taking on this rather herculean task less daunting, in the shape of newly capable AI coding agents. A few months later (thanks to an "unlimited token budget"), Matt had produced a working beta of the EmDash CMS. He also found that atproto was an ideal fit for the EmDash plugin registry. Links & Resources Matt Kane on Bluesky mk.gg Matt's Cirrus single-user PDS that runs in a Cloudflare Durable Object The Cirrus conformance checker Cumulus, an atproto blob proxy The EmDash CMS project Introducing EmDash blog post The EmDash plugin registry Everything Cloudflare launched during their birthday week, including EmDash The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-10-14-the-code-is-the-easy-part-matt-kane. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#23
October 9 · 39 min
Crab Bisque-y
After a month of travel and special episode livestreams, Jim and Alex are settling in for a bit of a return to normalcy. Highlights include a new top-level domain proposal, an community-driven surey of the ecosystem, a preview of what spaces could look like in the Bluesky app, and more. Links & Resources Bluesky CEO Toni Schneider on Bluesky’s .bsky TLD application TechCrunch: Bluesky wants to give you your own domain on the open web Bryan Newbold's at:// URI scheme draft Where We’re AT 2026 Post-alpha plans for permissioned data EmDash 1.0 Cloudflare: EmDash’s plugin registry Bluesky Head of Product Alex Benzer shared a thread with some thoughts on spaces in the Bluesky app The Tolerance Group Blacksky polls Brookie’s polls Graze's midterms election feed app MySky feed infrastructure Mapping web pages to canonical AT records FOSDEM 2027 atproto devroom proposal Atmosphere community events The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-10-09-crab-bisque-y. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#22
October 2 · 52 min
The Only Moat is Taste
If the AT Protocol is going to succeed, it's going to upend decades of assumptions about building on the web, including how businesses find customers and make money. Ricardo Méndez is a technologist, privacy advocate, and investor in early stage startups who has been working with decentralized technology for years. Ricardo is a very clear thinker about the hard problems of building a tech business, and his blog at numergent.com is a must read. Links & Resources Ricardo J. Méndez on Bluesky Ricardo's blog, Numergent Project vs. Product, Startup vs. Business A taxonomy of Atmosphere applications Winesky The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-10-02-the-only-moat-is-taste-ricardo-m-ndez. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#21
September 29 · 36 min
Stroopwafels for Everyone!
Planning is underway for the next Atmosphere Conf and the organizers — Boris Mann, Guido Jansen, and Ms. Boba — joined the livestream to announce the location (beautiful Amsterdam), dates (April 29–May 2), and the new website at atmosphereconf.org. They also had news to share about a new organization that's going to be overseeing the conference and other community governance. Links & Resources ATmosphereConf 2027 RSVP for ATmosphereConf 2027 Subscribe to ATmosphereConf News Erin Kissane's "People In Protocols" atmosphere.community Off Protocol, "Slowly, Then Quickly: What AtmosphereConf Made Visible" The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-09-28-stroopwafels-for-everyone-boris-mann. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#20
September 11 · 1 hr 33 min
Make Your Own Thing
In the age of aspirational influencers, million-dollar podcast hosts, and so, so many newsletters, it's sometimes hard to imagine the very idea of making a career out of writing on the internet was once considered controversial. John Gruber has been writing at Daring Fireball for nearly a quarter of a century and managed to turn his unique and incisive takes on technology, the internet, and Apple Computer into not just a career but a framework for countless writers, podcasters, producers — an entire economy. He joins Jim to talk about those early days and what they might have in common with a post-platform internet, the slow boil of Markdown, and, of course, Apple. Links & Resources Daring Fireball John on Bluesky at gruber.foo Independent Days Dive Into Markdown Aaron Swartz's atx Dean Allen's Textile (archived) Github Flavored Markdown "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste" The Standard Site community lexicon project for long form writing on atproto At.pm, a toolkit for building atproto apps in Perl The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-09-11-make-your-own-thing-john-gruber. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#19
September 4 · 47 min
A Bad Idea Until You Think About It
Paul Frazee, Bluesky's CTO, and Daniel Holmgren, the Head of Protocol at Bluesky, each published a blog post within minutes of each other last week exploring some of the big ideas of the protocol. It was a classic blog-off, so we decided to settle it on the livestream this week, after the regular news roundup. Links & Resources News roundup Off Protocol on VoxPort "The atproto Spaces Alpha is Live" Sign up for the atproto-spaces enabled PDS The atproto NYC Community Day recap Talks from atproto NYC available on Streamplace Troposphere Sri's IRL atproto apps from atproto NYC Sam Goto's FedCM demo "Working to Decentralize FedCM" Bluesky's proposed notifications redesign Ten-minute videos on Bluesky A new Bluesky setting to hide your posts from Discover Leaflet's paid memberships pilot Graze joins Flipboard Roomy teams up with Modal Germ launches voice notes Tim Disney's vision for Skyreader Keith Kurson's atmoBB Bluesky CEO Toni Schneider's AMA on Off Protocol Chicago Public Media building on atproto with Roundabout All the latest meetups on Atmosphere Community The blog-off Paul Frazee, "SELECT * FROM internet.blogposts" Daniel Holmgren, "Reintroducing Spaces" An early thread from Paul explaining some of the atproto fundamentals "Solving for scale in open networks" Paul's talk at this year's Local-First Conf The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-09-04-a-bad-idea. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#18
August 26 · 47 min
Not Just Us: An AMA with Toni Schneider
About six weeks ago, Toni Schneider dropped the "interim" from his job title to take on the role of Bluesky CEO full time. He's now ready to answer questions from the atproto ecosystem, starting with a crowd favorite: when are we getting an edit button?! (Turns out, it's complicated.) From there, Toni dove into strategy on everything from moderation to AI. The biggest set of questions was centered on how to build sustainability around an open protocol and how to make that easier for everyone from creators to builders. Links & Resources Toni's profile on Bluesky Toni's blog at toni.org The AMA question thread Introducing Bluesky Protocol Services The Atproto Spaces alpha launch post Bulletin, Bluesky's spaces demo app Secret Sky Alex Benzer's thread on adding an edit button The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-08-26-toni-schneider-ama. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#17
August 24 · 47 min
Own Your Own Destiny: An AMA with Jim Calabro
Jim Calabro is the head of Bluesky's platform team and is therefore ultimately responsible for managing the infrastructure of the largest node on the atprotocol network. He also led the engineering effort to rebuild the Jetstream developer service to make it easier to get started with new atproto apps. Jim joined the livestream to answer your questions about these topics and more. Links & Resources Northsky's social app is live The HOPE conference Jim's profile on Bluesky AMA question thread The new BPS website, including Jetstream The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-08-24-jim-calabro-ama. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#16
August 17 · 57 min
Waterwheel Logic
Eve Osman arrived in the atproto ecosystem after having been "in tech for too long," soon becoming a prominent contributor to Northsky, "a safe and sustainable platform for the 2SLGBTQIA+ and other marginalized communities." Eve has been a contributor to the work around permissioned data. This episode was recorded just after she launched Eskahlay, a new software consultancy for building sustainable social tools for communities. Links & Resources Eve on Bluesky Eve’s website Northsky A model for addressing privacy on atproto Twinkl Why Eskahlay exists The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-08-17-waterwheel-logic-eve-osman. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#15
August 6 · 47 min
Shinkansen Mindset
Toni Schneider's interview on The Verge's Decoder podcast gives Jim and Alex a chance to once again revisit the (good, healthy!) tensions at the heart of the Bluesky app and atproto. Plus all the latest news, releases, and updates. Links & Resources Toni Schneider's interview on The Verge's podcast Attie Quests announcement Brittany Ellich's Jimothy explainer Semble's MCP server launch Daniel Holmgren and Bryan Newbold's IETF presentation Paul Frazee's Local First talk writeup Erin Kissane on launching Cloud Atlas Cloud Atlas Open Collective Blacksky mobile beta for iOS and Android tng, a Tangled CLI in Swift Bailey Townsend's Lexidraw Scott Lanoue's atproto-account-driven GrapheneOS fork Dan Abramov on Syntax.fm, "The Open Web's Second Chance" Dan Abramov on UIT Inside Leaflet's HTML embed feature Hilary Baumann, "What is Standard Site? Next-gen RSS" atproto NYC Community Day at the Recurse Center, sponsored by Leaflet Atmosphere community events calendar The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-08-06-shinkansen-mindset. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#14
August 3 · 44 min
Designing for Uncertainty
Ethan Marcotte coined the term "responsive web design" back in 2010 and instantly gave a name to the loose collection of technologies that were fundamentally changing how the web was being built. A decade later, he brought that same insight to another revolutionary force within the industry, the workers themselves. Either one of these would be an invaluable contribution to how the web gets built and Ethan's sharp intuitions grounded in moral clarity offer some valuable lessons to the exciting, if still uncertain, early days of the Atmosphere. Links and Resources The Dao of Web Design by John Allsopp The original Responsive Web Design article Announcing the then-redesigned BostonGlobe.com, one of the first large scale responsive designs Ursula Franklin's Massey lectures, which were later collected as The Real World of Technology Ethan's book on the labor movement within the tech industry, You Deserve a Tech Union The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-08-03-designing-for-uncertainty-ethan-marcotte. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#13
July 23 · 36 min
Protocolly Atmoseed
Jim and Alex return to the livestream with another news roundup from across the Atmosphere,including a proposal to fix localhost, more webdevs getting into atproto, Mu Social's opinionated news feed, and more. Links and Resources A proposal to allow localhost redirect URIs in the localhost dev exception in the OAuth spec Dan Abramov on the Shoptalk podcast Mu Social gets an opinionated newsfeed Atmosphere Community continues to grow as a hub PDS Operator from Brookie Blacksky-only posts Pckt notes Leaflet adds publication pages Offprint adds standalone pages, custom nav, and components Bluesky defensively trademarks AT Protocol Head to the Recurse center August 22 for the atproto.nyc community day Tangled's Bobbin API app The Eurosky Portal showcases apps across the Atmosphere All the latest meetups, IRL and virtual The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-07-23-livestream-protocolly-atmoseed. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#12
July 22 · 1 hr 16 min
“Nothing Is Ever Over”
There’s no shortage of diagnosis of what went wrong with the social web, most of it on the social web. It’s a familiar space for writer, speaker, and researcher Erin Kissane, who’s spent a career with a sharp eye and an indefatigable resolve doing what she fully admits isn’t really anyone’s job. Sorting out the why we’re building new apps, networks, and protocols is just as important as the how, and Erin is a steady guide. In this wonderfully wide-ranging conversation, she and Jim work through familiar arcs of technology with some important takeaways for a new generation of network builders. Links and Resources Erin’s work Erin Kissane’s research studio, wreckage/salvage “Meta in Myanmar”, Erin’s multi-part series on Facebook and the Rohingya genocide Unflooding the zone with the Unbreaking Project The Covid tracking project Erin’s talk at XOXO about not retreating from the big-world social internet “Against the Dark Forest” further explores some of the ideas from her XOXO talk Erin’s Fediverse governance project (co-authored with Darius Kazemi), which we didn’t even have a chance to get into “People in Platforms” Erin’s 2025 Atmosphere Conf talk “Landslide / Holdfast” Erin’s 2026 Atmosphere Conf talk People and ideas referenced Twitter and Tear Gas by Zeynep Tufekci John Perry Barlow’s “A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace” “The street finds its own use for things” from William Gibson’s Burning Chrome Karen Hao’s work with whistleblower Sophie Zhang Amnesty International: “Facebook’s systems promoted violence against Rohingya; Meta owes reparations” UN Human Rights Council’s independent international fact-finding mission on Myanmar C. Thi Nguyen’s Hostile Epistemology Vices of the Mind by Quassim Cassam The Engine Room Yancey Strickler’s Dark Forest Theory collection of posts “The Dark Forest and the Cozy Web” by Maggie Appleton Bonfire networks The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/2026-07-22-erin-kissane. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#11
July 10 · 33 min
Sometimes You Just Want to Hold the Entire Network in Your Hand
Jim and Alex are back after a holiday weekend and a backlog of atproto news. Daniel Holmgren has shipped the permissioned data proposal just in time to celebrate America's semiquincentennial, with the help of plenty of community input and a new communities feature in the Bluesky app being developed in lockstep. Tangled has added full-text code search and a new microVM-back CI engine, and there's a new tool for mirroring your GitHub repos over there. Plus, new releases from Anisota and the general availability of Roomy. We also take a digression or two into effective outreach on other platforms, and don't miss the new job posting on the Bluesky Atmosphere team. Links and Resources Permissioned data is officially official The inaugural atproto working group will be happening at IETF Some big releases from Tangled Sync your GitHub repos to Tangled with Syncub The new Anisota is more of an atmosphere client than just Bluesky Roomy is generally available Senior full stack engineering role on the Atmosphere team All the latest meetups, IRL and virtual The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/network-in-your-hand. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#10
June 26 · 46 min
The Iron’s Still Hot
Daniel Holmgren, Head of Protocol at Bluesky, joins Jim and Alex for a live AMA on the permissioned data project. Their conversation starts with a core question: why does permissioned data need to be a separate protocol at all, rather than an extension of the existing public one? Then Daniel answers your questions about how “spaces” compose into communities, governance issues around community-owned DIDs, writing to another person’s PDS (short version: don’t), a Giphy-style sharing use case, moderation in non-encrypted spaces, and why space declarations are lexicons rather than records. Up top, the usual news from the Atmosphere. Links and Resources A new account management interface for the reference PDS A summer of blogging with Standard.site Leaflet's Standard.site explainer Devin Ivy's Atmospheric login diary co/core is pooled inference from Graze Social Marque.at is a domain registrar on atproto and locale.at is a translations framework, both built by Padding Labs Gifthood is a buy-nothing community project Daniel's permissioned data proposal Nick Gerakines read-through of Daniel's proposal The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/ama-dholms-irons-still-hot. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#9
June 16 · 19 min
“Policy Without Tools Is Just Poetry”
Head of product at ROOST, Juliet Shen, drops by for a conversation about Coop reaching version 1.0. Coop is ROOST's review and moderation platform used by organizations of all shapes and sizes, including Bluesky. It's also the first trust and safety tool that manages detection, review, and reporting in a free and open source tool. Juliet and Alex get into why encoding moderation policy in the open matters—including The Christchurch Call Foundation—and where AI actually fits into a moderation workflow. They also dig into what the 1.0 release means in practice: a more manageable memory footprint, Scylla now optional (with some tentpole summer movie cross-promo potential), and the ability to run a full production instance on a small team's budget. Links and Resources Coop 1.0 announcement Coop 1.0 livestream ROOST's project roadmap The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/roost-v1-juliet-shen. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#8
June 15 · 40 min
The Cobbler’s Kids
Jim and Alex return to the livestream, now at a new time and day and even a scheduling widget on the Off Protocol homepage built on the event community lexicon. They take a look at the growing new crop of Standard.site-powered personal sites, while wondering what happened to their own sites, and the new class of reader apps showing up. Alex covers Coop 1.0 from the team at ROOST and how even small teams now have access to moderation tools. Eurosky keeps launching new things at a pace possibly intended to confuse American audiences, we want your feedback about permissioned data, Streamplace VOD is now in closed beta, and more. Links and Resources Check the shiny new upcoming livestream widget The Lexicon Community event Lexicon We love/hate standard.horse Don't use Lexicons that don't exist Standard Reader is a new Standard.site reader app with some fun discovery features CodeTV Web Dev Challenge featureing atproto CodeTV rebuild your personal website hackathon Coop 1.0 launched Coop launch livestream Eurosky launched mu Daniel Holmgren's permissioned data diaries Streamplace VOD beta OAuth scope builder widget Find a local meetup The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/cobblers-kids. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#7
June 11 · 46 min
In Our Timeline
Bluesky CTO Paul Frazee and Head of Protocol Daniel Holmgren step in for Jim and Alex on the livestream this week. They get into Standard.site's community-built publishing lexicon getting an integration into the Bluesky app, as well as a long-awaited overhaul to the TypeScript SDK. Daniel shares the latest from the permissioned data project, including a target of June for a formal proposal and PDS alpha. Plus news from PDS Moover, the launch of Latinsky and Medsky on Acorn, self-hostable small language models for moderation, and more news from around the Atmosphere. Links and Resources Standard.site integration announcement post Off Protocol interview with the Standard.site core team Daniel's permissioned data Lexicon proposal Zicklag's arbiter proposal for permissioned data Typescript SDK updates PDS Moover, now with backups Rich Ferro's announcement that Medsky is open Zentropi's small language model for content classification Atmosphere community events Dame launched a new version of Aturi, a browser plugin for working with atproto The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/in-our-timeline. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.
#6
May 28 · 1 hr 4 min
Why Don’t We Just Do This Together?
Standard.site is, as best we can tell, the most successful community-driven Lexicon in the AT Protocol ecosystem to date. Even more amazing, this shared format for blog posts, articles, and newsletters was built and continues to be governed by three competing blogging platforms: Offprint, Leaflet, and pckt.blog. Jim sat down with three of the core team members, Brooke from pckt.blog, Miguel from Offprint, and Jared from Leaflet, to walk through how they found each other, why they decided a single shared format was better than three competing ones, and why they deliberately kept it small. This conversation gets into the design decision to standardize on the metadata while keeping the content field open and customizable, the gnarly work of migrating thousands of existing posts to a new format across a decentralized network, and how this core team of competitors governs the standard. They also lay out where they see things going with the possibility of new types of reader apps, new ways of monetization that support writers, and what permissioned data on the protocol might unlock. This episode was released the same day Bluesky added Standard.site to the core app as a new avenue for discovery. The archive for this episode, including a generated transcript, is available at https://atproto.com/off-protocol/do-this-together-standard-site. Off Protocol is a production of the Bluesky developer relations team. For more about AT Protocol and an archive of this show, head to atproto.com. Our theme music was composed and produced by Saleem Reshamwala. Catch our livestream every other Wednesday at stream.place/atproto.com.

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