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Episode 124: Lizard Love in the Morning

In this episode, Jamie & Eric weigh in on Ice-T vs. Ice Cube, and Jamie drops a prayer request that threw him for a loop. In Houston, We Have a Question, the Sermonots want to know what to make of Deion Sanders speaking in tongues at a press conference. Then, in The Bible Says What?!, Moses grabs a bowl of blood and flings it on the people of Israel...yes, really. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask whether Christian actors should take on sinful roles. It's ice cold, it's holy, it's Not the Sermon.

Episode 123: You've Got Some Face In Your Beard

In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric recaps taking his daughter to a football game while Jamie brags on the praise team's worship conference road trip. In Megachurch Minute, they dig into Lakepointe's 400 AI cameras and what that means for the future of church tech (and privacy). Then, in Odd News, they talk through the mushrooms that apparently make you see tiny people. Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with Jesus telling us to hate our family—what that actually means and why it's not the family-feud starter it sounds like. It's surveilled, it's psychedelic, it's Not the Sermon.

Episode 122: Sometimes It Be How It Do

In this episode, Eric nearly cause a Sermonot casualty, and no one can agree on Jamie's real age. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric recounts his near-miss with a listener. In Shady Theology, they dig into the "Death of a Pastor's Wife" documentary. In The Bible Says Whaaat?!, they cover the time a prophet slapped another prophet. And in Pester the Pastor, they get real about mid-life crises. It's reckless, it's ageless, it's Not the Sermon.

Episode 121: I Yeeted Their Beat

In this episode, Jamie and Eric and Jamie talk gadgets and LARPers! In Houston, We Have a Questions, they answer a listener question about whether or not people worship country flags and why "allegiance" might be a strong word. In So Help Meme God, they react to an epic hot mic moment (involving a hot dog suit?). Finally, In Weird Worship, they give their take on male modesty when they discuss the recent gym photos of Cory Asbury and Forest Frank. It's another action packed episode of NOT the Sermon!

Episode 120: I'm Not Fat, I'm Just Dense

In this episode, Jamie & Eric debate whether they could beat up their younger selves. In Your Greek is Showing, they unpack the Greek word behind "compassion" and why it's a lot less toxic than we think. Then, in How Great is Our Pod, they debut their spoof "This is a Manly Faith," a parody of "This is Amazing Grace." Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with forced evangelism and where the line is between boldness and bulldozing people.

Episode 119: Duodenum

In this episode, Jamie & Eric are riding the high of internet fame. In Shooting the Skybalon, they break down their viral Instagram video that somehow racked up 6.9 million views. Then in Mega Church Minute, they talk about the trend of celebrities becoming Christians and immediately launching a preaching career. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with doctrinal unity versus uniformity—and whether Christians actually need to agree on everything. It's viral, it's convicting, it's Not the Sermon

Episode 118: Sarcastic Fringehead

In this episode, Jamie & Eric are talking lawn mowers and last rites. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric tells the story of surviving an outdoor funeral in brutal August heat. In Shady Theology, they get into the wild story of a young man told by a prophet to literally eat a page out of the Bible. Then in a brand new game called Fish or Fake?, Eric has to guess if a bunch of weird names are actual fish or just made up nonsense. Finally, in Bible Says Whaaaat, they dig into whether Jesus lied about skipping the Festival of Booths, plus the strange world of Old Testament thigh oaths. It's sweaty, it's silly, it's Not the Sermon.

Episode 117: Catching Strays

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with a backhanded compliment and Eric's questionable trip to the zoo. In Houston, We Have a Question, Sermonots ask about Jesus' ideal walk-in music, the effects of the fall, and, uh, animal romance. In So Help Meme God, they tackle the age-old question: does God have a sense of humor? Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they debate just how important church buildings really are to worship. It's silly, it's sincere, it's Not the Sermon.

Episode 116: Prophets Night Out

Your perfect blend of comedy and theology is back for SEASON 4!! Jamie & Eric return for a new season of sacramental shenanigans. This episode kicks off with the cutest Skybalon intro from a few of our Sermonot fans! For the Bible Says What!? they discuss the story of a prophet who proph-uh-lied. In Odd News they share the story of the "Batman Subway Experiment" and finally, in Shady Theology, you get Jamie & Eric's take on the "eye for an eye" Pastor, Tony Spell, and the issue of self defense vs assault. Stay tuned until the end to hear new NTS Original song for Season 4: "Eye of the Sermon".

Summer Short Shorts #8: The Curse of the Blue Solo Cup

In this Summer Short Short we are joined again by Jamie's better half, Tiffany, where Jamie shares the curious case of the the curse of the blue solo cup! New full episodes coming soon! Tune in for Season 4 where we continue to provide the perfect blend of theology and comedy!

A Midsummer Pester: How Should Pastors Dress

In this midsummer treat we have a special Midsummer Pester the Pastor! The guys talk about how Jamie was featured on a major Christian social media page...about the way he dressed! They talk about pastor fashion and whether or not it even matter how a pastor dresses on Sundays.

[REPOST] How to talk with an Atheist w/ Michael Fincher

This episode is one of our most listened to of all time. In Season 1, Eric and Jamie were joined by professing atheist Michael Fincher. Have you ever talked with an atheist before? The dialogue between Christians and atheists has been strained by years of "boogeyman" stories and a general misunderstanding of each other's culture. On this Bonus Hot Take Episode Jamie and Eric are joined by a professing atheist, Michael Fincher. Michael and the NTS crew talk about science, ethics, and how Atheist meetups are a buzzkill. They talk about shared values and what Christians and atheists can do to better understand each other.

Summer Short Shorts BONUS: An Interview with Leah Crouse

In this episode, Jamie and Eric are joined by Leah Crouse. Born without arms or legs, Leah's story of faith and overcoming adversity has reached millions across the US through her social media platforms. A graduate of Lee University with a degree in Bible and Theology, Leah shares — in her first-ever podcast appearance — the challenges she's faced and how her faith in Jesus has inspired her to live a life without limits. Enjoy!

Midsummer Shady: Can Christians Eat Pork?

Join us for a little midsummer shady (theology) as Eric and Jamie discuss whether Christian can eat pork, or if any of the dietary laws in the Old Testament are relevant to today. Each week we will be posting our favorite episodes [Reposts] or a a brand new Summer Short Short. New full episodes return in August!

[REPOST] Episode 82: Happy Caw

Enjoy the only episode in existence of all of our podcast hosts together in one room! In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi-level marketing has any place in the church—or if it’s just spiritual spam. It’s raw, funny, and loaded with the mix of memes and theology you didn’t know you needed—welcome to Not the Sermon.

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Summer Short Shorts #7

In this episode of NTS Summer Short the guys are joined by Jamie's wife, Tiffany! She shares about her unfortunate encounter with a desperate inmate trying to escape from jail! Enjoy!

[Repost] Episode 77: “Gees Croyce

Enjoy one of our personal favorite episodes from Season 3! In this episode, Jamie & Eric serve up a fresh round of theology, comedy, and chaos. In Shooting the Skybalon, Jamie tells the story of a fine dining experience that somehow featured a DJ, while Eric shares about catching a stray “Pharisee” insult in the church foyer. Next, in Shady Theology, the guys dive into stories of people claiming to visit heaven—are they legit or just tall tales? Over in So Help Meme God, they can’t stop laughing at “Gees Croyse We Luv U, God,” a viral moment featuring an overly excited guy breakdancing for Jesus. Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, Eric breaks down the major atonement theories, why they exist, and why they actually matter for everyday faith.

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Summer Short Shorts #6

Sunscreen...check Sunglasses...check Short shorts...engage It's the first episode of our summer series! Each week we will release a new Summer Short Shorts story or a repost of one of our favorite episodes! This week Jamie shares about a time he had to get a pregnancy ultrasound! Summer is here and the fun is just beginning. Enjoy your solar orbit with a sunburnt episode of Not the Sermon!

Episode 115: "Planet Bee Boop-25"

In this episode Jamie & Eric talk about the supposed secret meeting of pastors where it was revealed that Aliens from outer space will soon arrive! Eric shares his crazy Monday morning encounter. The guys play a game called "Is this Christian T-shirt heresy?". In Eric's Edumakation he shares about the Bible as literature and they top it off with an NTS original song to celebrate the completion of Season 3!

Episode 114: "Andandandandand"

In this episode Jamie & Eric talk about Eric's new "big boy" purchase. In The Bible Says What?! they talk about the real way to cook Ezekiel bread. In So Help Meme God they trace Homiletics to a popular internet meme, and in Shady Theology they ask the question whether it is sinful to have a bad desire. We also are releasing the video for free on Patreon! Check it out on https://patreon.com/notthesermon