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Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.

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S9 · E2
August 30 · 44 min
Hines' Ray Lawler: 'Don't Pray For Cap Rate Compression'
Season 9, Episode 2: How does Hines decide where to buy, build, and lend across one of the largest real estate platforms in the world? Today, we sit down with Ray Lawler, Head of the Americas at Hines, to break down how the firm thinks about institutional capital, development, office, multifamily, and long-term investing. Ray shares how Hines grew from a Houston developer into a global investment manager with $91B+ in assets and operations across 30 countries. Whether you’re interested in multifamily, office debt, global real estate strategy, or how major firms underwrite the next cycle, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into Hines’ highest-conviction themes, Ray’s Marine Corps background, and why running toward risk can create the biggest opportunities. Shoutout to our sponsor, WareSpace — turning underused industrial, flex, office, and big-box properties into micro warehouse space for small businesses. TOPICS 00:00 - Introduction to Ray Lawler and Hines 05:10 - Lessons From Asia and Global Real Estate 08:05 - Hines’ Capital Structure and Fund Strategy 13:55 - Office Debt, Trophy Assets, and Market Recovery 18:10 - Office-to-Residential Conversions 20:05 - How Hines Picks Markets and Deals 26:15 - The Backyard Deal and Japan Industrial Story 34:15 - Marines, Risk, and Leadership 37:05 - Why Living Is Hines’ Top Conviction Strategy 48:15 - Advice for Young Professionals For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S9 · E1
August 23 · 52 min
From Bankruptcy to Renaissance: Bedrock's $1B Plan for Detroit w/ Jared Fleisher
Season 9, Episode 1: Can Detroit become America’s greatest urban comeback story? To kick off Season 9 of No Cap, we sit down with Jared Fleisher, CEO of Bedrock, to break down the future of Detroit, Cleveland, and large-scale city building. Jared shares how Bedrock, founded by Dan Gilbert, has invested billions across 140+ properties and 21M+ SF while helping reshape Detroit’s urban core. Whether you’re interested in public-private partnerships, downtown revitalization, GM’s move to Hudson’s Detroit, or the future of the Renaissance Center, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into conviction, civic commitment, riverfront development, and what it really takes to rebuild a city at scale. Shoutout to our sponsor, WareSpace — turning underused industrial, flex, office, and big-box properties into micro warehouse space for small businesses. TOPICS 00:00 - Season 9 Premiere with Jared Fleisher 05:00 - Dan Gilbert’s Conviction in Detroit 10:52 - Bedrock’s 21M SF Portfolio 16:49 - The Renaissance Center Challenge 22:38 - GM, Hudson’s Detroit, and Civic Commitment 27:06 - Rebuilding Detroit’s Riverfront 33:17 - Public-Private Partnerships and Brownfield Financing 41:48 - Innovation Districts and Talent 45:05 - Defense, Manufacturing, and Detroit’s Next Chapter 48:06 - Downtown Dallas and Why Cities Need Strong Cores For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E6
July 26 · 58 min
Where REITs and Private Real Estate Meet: Inside Cohen & Steers' $94B Strategy
Season 8, Episode 6: Today, we sit down with Jim Corl, Executive Vice President and Head of Private Real Estate at Cohen & Steers, to break down the relationship between listed REITs and private real estate. Jim explains why public markets often reprice first, why private valuations lag, and how that gap can create major opportunities for investors who know where to look. Whether you’re interested in REITs, private real estate, shopping centers, apartments, warehouses, or data centers, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into valuation discipline, sector rotation, and why Jim believes many investors are still stuck in last cycle’s winners. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 - Introduction to Jim Corl and Cohen & Steers 06:00 - Why REITs Became an Institutional Asset Class 12:00 - Buying Residential Lots for 5 Cents on the Dollar 18:00 - Why Public Markets Reprice Before Private Real Estate 24:00 - Apartments, Warehouses, and the Valuation Hangover 30:00 - Why Cap Rates Still Look Too Low in Multifamily 36:00 - The Shopping Center Thesis 42:00 - Walmart, Amazon, and the Future of Retail 48:00 - Industrial Demand and the E-Commerce Slowdown 54:00 - Why Investors Need to Exit Last Cycle Portfolios For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E5
July 19 · 47 min
Private Credit Pioneer: How Josh Zegen Built the Debt Frontier with Madison Realty Capital
Season 8, Episode 5: How did Madison Realty Capital grow from a $10M fund into one of the most active private credit platforms in real estate? Today, we sit down with Josh Zegen, Co-Founder and Managing Principal of Madison Realty Capital, to break down how MRC built its lending business before private credit became an institutional asset class. Josh shares how the firm survived the GFC, became vertically integrated, and scaled into a major capital source for sponsors when banks pulled back. Whether you’re interested in distressed debt, construction lending, office-to-residential conversions, or today’s maturity wall, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into how Madison thinks about risk, rescue capital, borrower relationships, and finding opportunity in a volatile market. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction to Josh Zegen and Madison Realty Capital 05:00 – The Early Private Credit Opportunity 10:53 – Surviving the GFC and Taking Over Assets 15:45 – Becoming a Construction Lending Powerhouse 19:00 – Back Leverage and Lending to Lenders 24:12 – Distress, Rescue Capital, and Loan Workouts 31:24 – Fundraising, Insurance Capital, and Investor Demand 35:44 – The Pfizer Office-to-Residential Conversion 42:40 – West Palm Beach, Florida, Texas, and Hot Markets 48:12 – Recaps, Volatility, and Building Through the Cycle For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E4
July 12 · 49 min
PGIM's Sharpshooter Approach to $60B in US Real Estate w/ Soultana Reigle
Season 8, Episode 4: She oversees $60 billion in U.S. real estate equity, and she says the old playbook is done. Soultana Reigle is Managing Director and Head of US Equity at PGIM Real Estate, where she leads the firm's $60B US equity platform and serves as Senior Portfolio Manager for its US value-add strategies. PGIM Real Estate manages over $200B in debt and equity globally, and sits within PGIM, the $1.4T asset management arm of Prudential Financial. In this episode, Soultana breaks down how PGIM is deploying capital across the country, why "sharpshooting" specific deals has replaced broad-based sector bets, and where she's finding the best opportunities in today's market. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 05:31 – Building a $60B Value-Add Platform from Scratch 09:04 – GFC Lessons 13:52 – The "Sharpshooter" Strategy and Sourcing $8B in Deal Flow 15:02 – Senior Housing and Low-Latency Data Center Thesis 25:24 – Buying a San Francisco Office Asset 33:48 – Capital on the Sidelines and Navigating "Higher for Longer" Rates 44:20 – AI Disruption, Career Advice, and why EQ is a Superpower For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E3
July 5 · 1 hr 11 min
Fernando De Leon on His Roots, His Rise, and Building a $3B Empire
Season 8, Episode 3: How did Fernando De Leon go from translating legal disputes as a teenager on the US-Mexico border to building Leon Capital Group? Today, we sit down with Fernando De Leon, Founder and CEO of Leon Capital Group, to break down one of the most remarkable founder stories in real estate. Fernando shares how his early life in Matamoros and South Texas shaped his view of risk, opportunity, and systems. We also get into his first real estate equity stake, his time at Harvard and Goldman Sachs, and how he built conviction before the GFC. Whether you’re interested in distressed debt, Texas real estate, AI, data centers, or the mindset behind durable compounding, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into the skepticism, stamina, and timing that helped Fernando build across real estate, private equity, and operating businesses. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction to Fernando De Leon 07:00 – Early Real Estate Lessons on the Border 14:00 – Harvard, Mentors, and Long-Term Seeds 21:40 – Leaving Goldman and Optioning Texas Land 28:29 – Buying Distressed Loans After the GFC 37:07 – Why 2008 Won’t Repeat the Same Way 46:43 – AI, Data Centers, and Hidden Risk 52:48 – Building Operating Businesses 57:07 – Mental Health, Talent, and New Opportunities 01:04:00 – Mistakes, Stamina, and AI Disruption For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E2
June 28 · 47 min
The Silver Tsunami, Senior Housing, and Managing $55B at Fortress w/ Eli Edwards
Season 8, Episode 2: How does one of the nation’s largest real estate capital pools navigate a "real estate recession" while the rest of the economy stays hot? Today, we sit down with Eli Edwards, Managing Director at Fortress Investment Group and Head of US Real Estate Equity, to break down the firm’s strategy in a shifting market. Eli shares how Fortress spotted the San Francisco multifamily turnaround while the "doom loop" narrative was still in full swing. We also get into the "silver tsunami" in senior housing, why student housing is now a game of picking idiosyncratic winners, and how they are leveraging Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) to provide tax-efficient solutions for retail investors. Whether you’re interested in distressed debt, Core Plus yields, or the future of the Sun Belt, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into the conviction, timing, and risk discipline that helped Eli and his team at Fortress identify growth opportunities where others only saw risk. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 04:14 – Transitioning from Banking to the Buy-Side at Fortress 10:21 – Contrarian Plays: Why Fortress Went Heavy on San Francisco Multifamily 15:31 – The Sun Belt Outlook and the Looming "Supply Cliff" 18:52 – Why Equity and JV Partnerships Trump Preferred Equity Today 22:56 – Student Housing: Picking Winners in a Shrinking Demographic Pie 25:56 – The Silver Tsunami: Why Senior Housing Fundamentals are "Inelastic" 30:51 – Tax-Efficient Strategies and the Launch of the Fortress DST Platform 40:21 – GFC vs. Today: Navigating a "Real Estate Recession" Without an Economic One 45:54 – Market Outlook: Why 2026 is the Year for Real Estate Fundamental Bottoming For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S8 · E1
June 21 · 48 min
Presidium: Lessons from Managing 20,000 Units across Multiple Real Estate Cycles w/ John Griggs
Season 8, Episode 1: How did two lawyers turn a handful of Arizona fourplexes into a vertically integrated real estate powerhouse with over 20,000 units renovated? Today, we sit down with John Griggs, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Presidium, to break down the strategy behind that rise. John shares how he spotted his first opportunity in the "golden age" of the Arizona housing market before shifting his conviction to Texas just as the landscape was beginning to transform. We dive into how Presidium scaled its early portfolio to 5,000 units, the hard lessons learned from internalizing management during the GFC, and the strategic move of acquiring a special servicing company to master the mechanics of distressed debt. Whether you’re interested in ground-up development, creative capital stacks involving HUD debt, or where multifamily opportunity sits in today’s cycle, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we explore the risk discipline and long-term vision that helped Presidium evolve from a grassroots startup into a dominant institutional investment platform. Shoutout to our sponsor, Lennar Investor Marketplace. New construction rental investments with comps, returns, and underwriting built in. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction and Presidium's Background 01:32 – From Silicon Valley Law to the 2003 Arizona "Golden Age" 08:03 – Moving to Texas and Raising Capital for Scale 10:11 – Navigating the GFC and Internalizing Management 14:58 – The Institutionalization of Multifamily Real Estate 19:27 – Strategic Acquisition: Buying a Special Servicer 24:56 – Launching a Development Platform and Spotting Market Peaks 31:18 – Today's Creative Financing: HUD Debt and Housing Authorities 36:38 – Targeting Distress and Partnering with Lenders 42:15 – Delo Capital and the Outlook for Sun Belt Migration For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E6
June 7 · 40 min
The Back Office is Dying with Henry AI's Sammy Greenwall
Season 7, Episode 6: How did a former real estate analyst turn the pain of building pitch decks into one of CRE's fastest-growing AI companies? Today, we sit down with Sammy Greenwall, co-founder and CEO of Henry AI, to discuss how artificial intelligence is transforming commercial real estate workflows. Sammy shares his journey from college basketball to helping scale Lev into a $100M venture-backed company before leaving to build Henry AI. The conversation covers the inefficiencies of traditional brokerage workflows, why Henry focuses on delivering outcomes instead of software, and how AI is automating offering memorandums, BOVs, and other time-intensive tasks. Sammy also explains why local brokerage data may be more valuable than national databases, how "humans in the loop" remain critical to adoption, and where he sees the future of AI in commercial real estate. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 01:39 – The Genesis of Henry AI and Early Conversations 03:00 – Sammy’s Background: From the Bay Area to Toll Brothers 03:53 – The Pain Point: Spending 70% of the Day in PowerPoint 07:41 – The Lev Story: Starting a Company with a Rabbi in a Chabad House 11:00 – Scaling to a $100M Series B and "Relentless Grit" 13:10 – Leaving Lev to Build a Generational AI Company 15:18 – Why Brokerage Costs Are Under Fire 18:00 – Why Henry Charges 3x More 19:50 – Why the Professional Touch in AI Still Matters 21:56 – Identifying the Single Pain Point 24:08 – The Future of Interactive, Digital Offering Memorandums 27:19 – The Data War 32:58 – Labeling the "Walled Garden" of Commercial Real Estate Data 35:30 – Where the Name "Henry" Actually Came From 38:14 – CEO Productivity For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E5
May 31 · 58 min
Betting On Middle America w/ RREAF Holdings
Season 7, Episode 5: How did RREAF Holdings grow into a $4.8B real estate platform across multifamily, hospitality, BTR, and master-planned communities? Today, we sit down with Kip Sowden, Chairman & CEO of RREAF Holdings, and Doug McKnight, President of RREAF Holdings, to break down the strategy behind the firm’s growth across the Sun Belt. Kip shares how he moved from brokerage into principal investing after the GFC, while Doug explains how his fixed income background shaped RREAF’s approach to capital, risk, and liquidity. The conversation covers distressed acquisitions after 2008, bridge lender opportunities today, and why RREAF focuses on “all things residential” across the South and Southeast. Kip and Doug also break down their approach to multifamily, extended stay hotels, beachfront resorts, and large-scale Texas developments, while sharing why they believe a new real estate cycle is beginning. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 03:45 – Kip Sowden’s Early Career in Brokerage and Mortgage Banking 09:28 – Moving Into Principal Investing and Launching RREAF 17:03 – Buying Distressed Notes and REO After the GFC 24:17 – Structuring $500M+ Multifamily Portfolio Deals 30:29 – Master-Planned Communities, BTR, and Texas Growth 36:39 – Why RREAF Is Bullish on Extended Stay Hotels 42:26 – Why RREAF Focuses on the South and Southeast 47:45 – Institutional Capital Returning to CRE 54:30 – Where RREAF Sees Opportunity in the Next Cycle For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E4
May 24 · 49 min
Why This Distress Cycle Isn't the GFC w/ Värde Partners
Season 7, Episode 4: How does a firm managing $17 billion navigate global real estate through high interest rates and a "hope-driven" market? Today, we sit down with Tim Mooney, partner and global head of real estate and Jim Dunbar, partner and head of real estate lending at Värde Partners. They break down how Värde operates across the capital stack, from senior lending and structured credit to niche equity platforms in student housing and medical offices. Tim and Jim share how their "distress roots" from the GFC shaped their current strategy of building sector-specific operating platforms like Trimont. They explain why today’s cycle is a "slow trickle" compared to 2008, the reality of the upcoming maturity wall, and how they are synthetically creating mezzanine returns. Whether you’re curious about AI’s impact on real estate demand or looking for insights into international markets like India and Europe, this episode is a masterclass in institutional credit. Join us for an unfiltered look at the conviction and data-driven discipline required to manage a global alternative investment platform in today’s cycle. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction to Värde Partners 05:58 – Tim Mooney and Jim Dunbar’s Backgrounds 10:05 – The Trimont Acquisition and Data Advantage 13:00 – Värde’s Current Strategy: Staying Senior in the Stack 15:51 – Case Study: Repurposing Distressed New York Assets 22:44 – Lessons from the GFC vs. Today’s "Hope-Driven" Market 30:50 – Middle Market Lending and Creating Synthetic Returns 34:26 – The Case for Medical Office and Student Housing Platforms 41:16 – AI Disruption and the Future of Productivity 45:15 – International Complexity: Lending in India and Europe For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E3
May 17 · 47 min
How ACRE Turned Workforce Housing Into an Investment Grade Asset Class w/ Michael Van Der Poel
Season 7, Episode 3: How did ACRE grow from a post-GFC workforce housing thesis into a global real estate investment firm? Today, we sit down with Michael Van Der Poel, Founding Partner at ACRE, to break down the strategy behind that rise. Michael shares how he spotted workforce housing before it became an institutional trade, and how ACRE built its early portfolio by buying distressed multifamily assets at deeply discounted prices. We also get into raising capital from Asia, building a vertically integrated platform, and expanding across both equity and credit strategies. Whether you’re interested in capital raising, private credit, or where real estate opportunity sits in today’s cycle, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into the conviction, timing, and risk discipline that helped ACRE grow from a scrappy startup into an institutional investment platform. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 02:17 – Michael Van Der Poel’s Background and Early Real Estate Career 06:55 – ACRE’s Workforce Housing Thesis After the GFC 09:56 – Raising the First Fund and Buying Distressed Multifamily 15:00 – Building ACRE’s Credit Platform 21:13 – Why ACRE Plays Across Equity, Credit, and Development 23:21 – Pricing Equity Risk and Finding Returns in Today’s Market 38:50 – Rental Housing, AI Disruption, and the Future of Jobs 41:03 – Where ACRE Sees Opportunity Right Now 46:19 – Multifamily Outlook and the Next Buying Window For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E2
May 10 · 1 hr 7 min
Inside Equinox: The Real Estate Behind the Fitness Brand
Season 7, Episode 2: How did Equinox evolve from a single gym in New York to a global luxury lifestyle and hotel brand? Today, we sit down with Jeff Weinhaus, Co-President and Chief Development Officer at Equinox, to break down the incredible real estate strategy behind the fitness empire. Jeff shares the inside story of how a stubborn lease negotiation won over billionaire Stephen Ross, why Equinox builds gyms inside historic bank vaults and sugar factories, and the exact "70/30 Rule" they use to decide which cities get a location next. We also dive into the future of wellness, the shift from cardio to heavy strength training, and what it takes to double a luxury portfolio without losing the brand's soul. Whether you’re curious about the brand's pivot toward longevity and mental health or how they plan to double their portfolio without losing their edge, this episode is a must-listen for anyone in capital markets or real estate development. Join us as we dive deep into the disciplined growth and creative vision that transformed a local family business into a global luxury platform. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 0:00 - Intro & Jeff Weinhaus’s Background 6:07 - The Columbus Circle Deal & Winning Over Stephen Ross 10:06 - Expanding Beyond NYC & The First LA Location 13:07 - Navigating the Pandemic & Automating the Gym 15:33 - The Blue-Collar Origin Story of a Luxury Brand 18:54 - Building Gyms in Bank Vaults & Sugar Factories 21:37 - The 70/30 Rule of Real Estate & Location Scouting 31:19 - Equinox Hotels & The Science of Perfect Sleep 39:13 - The Art of the Deal: Negotiating with Landlords 43:08 - Sunbelt Migration & Targeting Second-Tier Cities 48:08 - Why Gen Z is Spending Their Money on Equinox 54:05 - New Fitness Trends: Cold Plunges & Padel 1:00:13 - International Expansion: London & The Middle East 1:04:37 - The Future: How Equinox Plans to Double in Size For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S7 · E1
May 3 · 44 min
How Harbor Group International Manages $21 Billion Across Multifamily, Office & Credit
Season 7, Episode 1: Season 7 of the No Cap Podcast kicks off with a masterclass in global real estate investment and management. Jack and Alex sit down with Richard Litton, President of Harbor Group International, to explore how the firm scaled from a $1 billion management-focused company to a $21 billion powerhouse. Richard breaks down the creative evolution of Harbor’s strategy, detailing how they pivoted from secondary office markets to becoming the world's most active Freddie Mac buyers. From navigating the current wave of CRE debt maturities to exploring opportunistic plays in markets like Detroit and Cleveland, learn how these experts deploy capital at scale in a reset market. Whether you're looking at workforce housing or the resilience of Manhattan office credit, this episode is a must-listen for understanding today’s complex financing environment. Join us as we dive into the power of vertical integration and strategic risk-reward underwriting in the new era of real estate. Shoutout to our sponsor, Henry AI. The fast track to investor-ready decks that actually stand out. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 01:54 – From Corporate Law to Building a $21B Powerhouse 07:15 – Exiting Secondary Office Markets Before the GFC 10:55 – Launching the Credit Platform and Partnering with Freddie Mac 14:15 – Assessing Risk in a Saturated Private Credit Market 18:27 – Workforce Housing vs. Class A: Finding Value in Market Resets 23:14 – Navigating Sunbelt Supply and the Realities of Negative Leverage 28:37 – Manhattan Resilience and D.C. Credit Plays 34:58 – Betting on Detroit, Cleveland, and Norfolk 40:59 – Sourcing Deals in a Reset Environment For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S6 · E5
April 26 · 56 min
How Fifth Wall Conquered CRE’s Tech Resistance w/ CEO Brendan Wallace
Season 6, Episode 5: The No Cap Podcast continues with hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik diving into the high-stakes world of proptech with Brendan Wallace, co-founder and CEO of Fifth Wall. Managing billions for the world’s largest real estate owners, Wallace explains his transition from a New York real estate family to bridging the gap between massive physical assets and cutting-edge technology. The conversation breaks down why real estate has historically been a "luddite" industry and how Fifth Wall’s unique strategy, using major industry players as LPs, turned a "bug into a feature" for tech adoption. From backing unicorns like Procore and Open Door to the strategic acquisition of Industrious by CBRE, Wallace shares the inside track on what actually drives returns in the built environment. Wallace predicts a total revolution where venture firms don’t just build tools, they become the industry players themselves. If you want to know where real estate and AI are colliding, this is the episode to watch. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Intro to Brendan Wallace and Fifth Wall 01:28 – Career Origins: From Times Square to Goldman & Blackstone 09:12 – First Successes: Workday Acquisition and Founding Cabify 12:35 – Founding Fifth Wall: Filling the Proptech Gap 17:00 – Why Real Estate is a Historically "Luddite" Industry 19:27 – Winning Bets: Consumer Fintech, Procore, and Unicorns 24:43 – Industrious vs. WeWork: The Durable "Flag" Model 28:44 – The Future of Multifamily: Aspirational Brands like Sakra 33:54 – AI Revolution: Shifting to a "DIY" Internal Tech Model 42:58 – The Big Pivot: Why a Lack of Legacy Tech is now a Feature 50:15 – VC Evolution: Moving from Building Tools to the Industry Itself For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S6 · E4
April 19 · 53 min
Brixmor CEO Brian Finnegan on the Power of Grocery-Anchored Retail
Season 6, Episode 4: Season 6 of the No Cap Podcast continues with a deep dive into one of the most misunderstood sectors in commercial real estate. Jack and Alex sit down with Brian Finnegan, CEO of Brixmor Property Group, to unpack how grocery-anchored retail quietly became one of the most resilient asset classes in the market. From tenant mix and small shop economics to redevelopment-driven growth, Brian breaks down what actually drives performance in today’s retail environment. He also explains how Brixmor has scaled its portfolio of open-air centers by focusing on necessity-based demand and adapting to shifting consumer behavior. They also get into the reality behind e-commerce, why new retail supply has nearly disappeared, and how omnichannel strategies are reshaping leasing, operations, and long-term value creation across the sector. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction to Brian Finnegan and Brixmor Property Group 02:30 – Career Origins: From Litigation Support to Sales Skills 09:09 – Massive Growth and Strategic Shifts (2004–2006) 14:13 – Partnership with Anchor Tenants and Redevelopment Strategies 15:35 – The Economics of Small Shops vs. Anchor Tenants 17:13 – The "Genetics" and Formula of a Modern Retail Center 18:48 – Health, Wellness, and Fitness Trends in Retail 19:07 – The Growth of "Medtail" and Service-Based Tenants 42:51 – The Future of Shopping Centers and Community Impact 49:00 – Leadership, Culture, and Opening New Markets For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S6 · E3
April 12 · 1 hr 1 min
Structured Credit, B-Pieces & the Private Markets Opportunity | Chris Hentemann, 400 Capital
Season 6, Episode 3: Season 6 of the No Cap Podcast continues with a masterclass in structured credit and securitized assets. Jack and Alex sit down with Chris Hentemann, the founder and CIO of 400 Capital Management, to explore how his firm navigates complex credit markets. Chris breaks down his firm's flexible approach to both performing and non-performing credit opportunities across residential and commercial mortgage credit. From the mechanics of risk retention and "B pieces" to innovative builder finance structures, learn how 400 Capital identifies asymmetry in global markets. Chris explains how they’ve bridged the gap between bank balance sheets and private capital by creating partnerships that accommodate modern regulatory standards. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 00:43 – Chris Hentemann’s Career: From First Boston to the 2008 Crisis 06:37 – The Founding of 400 Capital and Early Investment Thesis 11:52 – Housing Finance, CRT Markets, and the Role of Private Capital 16:41 – Masterclass on Risk Retention: B Pieces and Asset Quality Control 22:13 – The Evolution of Banks: From Warehouse Lenders to Risk Partners 33:30 – Modern Underwriting: AI Integration and Investment Yield Math 43:37 – Strategy Spotlight: Builder Finance and Lot Financing Structures 48:33 – Global Expansion: European SRT Markets and Regulatory Capital Deals 56:56 – Macro Outlook: Rate Cycles, Inflation, and the Power of Volatility For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S6 · E2
April 5 · 54 min
Inside the Mind of America’s Largest Grocery-Anchored Landlord: Ross Cooper, Kimco
Season 6, Episode 2: This week on the No Cap Podcast, we're sitting down with Ross Cooper — President & CIO of Kimco Realty (NYSE: KIM) — to talk about one of the most resilient asset classes in commercial real estate: grocery-anchored open-air retail. Ross is a third-generation real estate operator whose grandfather Milton Cooper co-founded Kimco back in 1958. After 20 years rising through the investment side of the platform, Ross now leads one of the largest publicly traded REITs in North America. This conversation covers all of it — the origin story, the GFC, the "retail apocalypse" narrative, and how Kimco has quietly built one of the most durable portfolios in the business. We get into how Kimco underwrites acquisitions (location + basis, always), why grocery anchors drive daily and weekly foot traffic that no other asset class can replicate, and how the four segments of the grocery market — traditional, discount, organic, and ethnic — each attract a distinct co-tenancy ecosystem. Ross also breaks down Kimco's approach to redevelopment and densification, including 13,000+ multifamily units either built, under construction, or fully entitled across their portfolio, and why turning a sea of surface parking into a 25-story mixed-use tower can be additive — not disruptive — to the retail below. We also cover Kimco's structured investment program in preferred equity and mezz financing, how they think about balance sheet discipline (including a decade-long push to earn an A-minus credit rating from all three agencies), and why new ground-up retail construction would require 50–60% rent increases in most markets just to pencil — a supply constraint that's quietly been one of the biggest tailwinds for existing center owners. If you want to understand how a REIT that's been in the business since Eisenhower still finds mispriced assets, turns over capital intelligently, and thinks about what comes next — this episode is it. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 05:13 – Kimco’s First Deal and Early Mistakes 10:31 – Curating Tenant Mix Around the Customer 15:08 – Omnichannel Retail and Store Importance 19:44 – Capital Strategy and Debt Approach 25:00 – Portfolio Strategy and Market Positioning 30:00 – Leasing Strategy and Tenant Demand 35:00 – Redevelopment and Value Creation 40:00 – Retail Resilience and Market Outlook 45:43 – Development, Densification, and Closing Thoughts For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S6 · E1
March 29 · 50 min
Building a Niche in Opportunity Zone Capital w/ Ackman-Ziff
Season 6, Episode 1: Season 6 of the No Cap Podcast kicks off with a masterclass in Opportunity Zone (OZ) equity. Jack and Alex sit down with Jordan Brustein & Andrew Rudy from Ackman-Ziff to explore how they’ve carved out a unique niche in structured finance. Jordan and Andrew break down the creative evolution of the OZ market, detailing innovative preferred equity structures that solve the 10-year hold challenge for developers. From ground-up developments to post-CO recapitalizations, learn how these capital market experts are resetting the clock on distressed assets and preparing for the next era of "OZ 2.0." Whether you're a developer or an investor, this episode is a must-listen for navigating today's complex financing environment. Shoutout to our sponsor, Appfolio. The growth engine transforming how firms handle investor relations and distributions. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 01:54 – Ackman-Ziff's History and Focus on Structured Finance 03:21 – Carving a Niche in the Opportunity Zone Space 04:35 – Structuring Preferred Equity for a 10-Year Hold 08:55 – Financing Ground-Up Development with OZ Pref 14:52 – The Math: 10-Year Outlook and Positive Leverage 18:05 – Opportunity Zone Fundamentals and Tax Benefits 21:28 – Strategic Recaps: Injecting New OZ Equity Post-CO 25:13 – Navigating Qualified Opportunity Zone Compliance 30:10 – OZ 2.0: Future Outlook and Global Gain Trends 37:21 – Case Study: $200M Recapitalization in Washington D.C. 48:41 – The Cycle of Common Equity vs. Private Credit For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
S5 · E10
March 15 · 59 min
Michael Cohen on Williams Equities' 100-Year Legacy, the Flatiron Building, and the Rise of Nomad
Season 5, Episode 10: On this episode of the No Cap Podcast, hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Michael Cohen, Principal at Williams Equities and a key figure in the Flatiron NoMad Partnership. Drawing on his family’s nearly 100-year history in Manhattan real estate and his leadership within the brokerage world at Colliers, Michael shares how New York’s real estate ecosystem has evolved from family-run ownership models to today’s era of institutional capital and global brokerage consolidation. Michael also breaks down the strategic thinking behind some of Manhattan’s most recognizable assets and neighborhoods—from the transformation of NoMad and the role of Business Improvement Districts to the redevelopment of the iconic Flatiron Building. The conversation explores how policy shifts like the City of Yes initiative, along with advances in technology, finance, and AI, could shape the next chapter of New York office and urban development. Shoutout to our sponsor, Bracket. The AI platform transforming how we underwrite deals. TOPICS 00:00 – Introduction 01:55 – The Many Michael Cohens & Williams Equities History 07:05 – Globalization and the Consolidation of Brokerage 11:51 – Public Models vs. Partnership Structures in CRE 19:01 – New York's Current Market State: A Virtuous Cycle 26:38 – The Rise of NoMad and Business Improvement Districts (BIDs) 37:21 – The Future of the Iconic Flatiron Building 40:31 – Portfolio Strategy: 1031 Exchanges and Value-Add Upside 55:01 – Institutional Capital and IRR vs. ROI Investing For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

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