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Nevertheless

Nevertheless is a raw and honest journey of two people who chose to follow Jesus . Even when it meant walking away from their marriage and the LGBTQ life they once shared. This podcast is a space for truth, healing, and growth as we unpack what it really means to surrender, trust God, and walk in obedience when it costs everything.

Each episode invites you into our process . The lessons we’re learning, the struggles we still face, and the grace that continues to meet us along the way. Whether you’re questioning, curious, or walking a similar road, you’re welcome here.

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  • 13 episodes
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  • S2 · E6
    Monday · 1 hr 19 min

    Season 2 : Episode 6 | Xavier

    Xavier Saunders is a Christian creator and storyteller with a passion for biblical truth, identity, and helping others pursue a life fully surrendered to Jesus. After searching for fulfillment in all the wrong places, Xavier encountered the transforming love of Christ and discovered the identity he had always been looking for. Today, he uses his platform to encourage others to know Jesus, stand firmly on God’s Word, and live boldly for His glory. Connect with Xavier: Instagram: @theXavierSaunders Business Inquiries: xsndrz@gmail.com Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S2 · E5
    August 24 · 1 hr 3 min

    Season 2 : Episode 5 | Courtney

    Courtney Schweinsberg’s story is a beautiful reminder that God never stops pursuing His children.After years of searching for purpose and fulfillment, Courtney encountered Jesus in a life-changing way and discovered the hope she had been looking for all along. Today, she serves faithfully in her local church and is passionate about sharing the Gospel through her testimony, social media, and missions. This November, she’ll be traveling to Kenya for her second mission trip of the year to continue sharing the love of Christ. Follow Courtney: Instagram: @21_ CourtneyTikTok: @CourtneySchweinsberg Facebook: Courtney Schweinsberg Cash App: $CourtneySchweinsberg Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S2 · E4
    August 17 · 53 min

    Season 2 : Episode 4 | Anthony

    Anthony is a man of God. His claim to fame is simply that he is one of those that God saved. His ministry is focused on helping people see the truth of God's abundant grace that helps people live lives rich in holiness, beauty, purpose and power. He serves as a small group leader at his home church: People Church headquartered in Chicago and has a personal ministry focused on reaching online native populations with the good news of God's saving power. Learn more about Anthony: www.tonybamgbose.com Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S2 · E3
    August 10 · 1 hr 47 min

    Season 2 : Episode 3 | Paloma

    Paloma Alarcon is the founder of TrulyBeloved Ministry Shop, a Christian ministry dedicated to helping others experience the love of Jesus. After leaving a same-sex relationship to follow Christ, Paloma discovered that freedom isn’t just found in one moment of surrender—it is cultivated through discipleship, healing, repentance, and daily dependence on Jesus. In this conversation, she vulnerably shares how God pursued her through every season and how the local church played a vital role in her restoration. Her story is a beautiful reminder that Jesus still restores brokenness and transforms lives. If Paloma’s story resonates with you and you’d like prayer, encouragement, or Christ-centered resources, she’d love to connect with you. Connect with Paloma: Instagram: @trulybelovedministry Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S2 · E2
    August 3 · 1 hr 23 min

    Season 2 : Episode 2 | Jess

    Jess Darnell is from Nashville, TN, and has previously worked as an actor, disco DJ, donut fryer, screen printer, walking tour guide, and birthday clown. After living abroad in London for nearly ten years, Jess hit rock bottom, surrendered his life to Jesus Christ, and realised that being gay is a colossal waste of time! Now, he speaks on redemption, sexuality, and sobriety, and is documenting his faith journey on TikTok and Instagram. He never expected following Jesus could ever be this cool. Galatians 5:16-17. Follow Jess: Instagram: @theredemptionriot Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S2 · E1
    July 27 · 1 hr 9 min

    Season 2 : Episode 1 | Raven

    At just 26 years old, Raven’s story is a powerful testimony of God’s redeeming grace. A Georgia native, Navy veteran, and former gang member, Raven shares how Jesus delivered her from addiction, homosexuality, and a nine-month psychedelic-induced psychosis that nearly took her life. Today, she serves as a full-time missionary in Atlanta with a passion to place Bibles into the hands of anyone in need. Her story is a reminder that no one is beyond the reach of God’s mercy. Follow Raven: Instagram | TikTok | Cash App: @Raethaciple Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S1 · E7
    February 17 · 1 hr

    Episode 7 | Healing After Separation

    Separation wasn’t the end of our story — it was the beginning of deep healing. In this final episode, we share what life looked like after obedience. The conversations with family and friends. The grief, confusion, and unexpected peace. The slow rebuilding of identity, faith, and trust in God when the life we once knew was no longer ours. We talk honestly about the aftermath most people never see — learning how to walk forward separately, setting healthy boundaries, and allowing God to heal us individually while transforming our relationship into a God-honoring friendship. This episode is for anyone navigating life after a hard “yes” to God. For those grieving what they laid down while trusting that obedience leads to life. For anyone wondering if healing is really possible after loss. Healing didn’t come overnight, but God was faithful in every step. Thank you for walking this journey with us. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast 📅 New episodes weekly Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S1 · E6
    February 10 · 28 min

    Episode 6 | Our Separation Testimony

    This episode is the one many have been waiting for. After encountering God, conviction didn’t come all at once but it came clearly. What followed was the hardest decision we have ever made: choosing obedience, even when it cost us everything we thought our life would look like. In this episode, we share the real story behind our separation. Not from a place of shame, but from transformation. We talk about the days and moments leading up to our decision, the wrestling, the prayers, the fear, and the surrender. We explain why we chose God over our marriage and how that choice wasn’t rooted in pressure, religion, or people’s opinions, but in a deep reverence for the Lord. This is not a story about loss. It’s a story about obedience, freedom, and trusting God with what matters most. We open up about what it meant to lay everything on the altar and believe that God is good, even when His way is costly. Thank you for listening with an open heart. This is part of our testimony and we pray it brings clarity, hope, and truth. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast New episodes weekly 📖 “Not my will, but Yours be done.” (Luke 22:42)

  • February 3 · 31 min

    Episode 5 | Our Marriage Was an Idol

    In this episode, we speak honestly about something God began revealing to us long before our separation — our marriage had become an idol. We loved each other deeply, but without realizing it, we had placed our relationship above obedience, above truth, and ultimately above God. What we once called love, God lovingly exposed as misplaced devotion. This episode walks through the conviction, the tension, and the internal wrestling that came with realizing that even good things can become idols when they take God’s rightful place. We share how God began stripping away false definitions of love and teaching us what surrender really looks like. This conversation sets the foundation for what comes next — because once God exposed the idol, everything had to change. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast New episodes weekly Testimony • Faith • Transformation Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S1 · E4
    January 27 · 48 min

    Episode 4 | New Church, New Convictions

    After church hurt, we didn’t think we’d ever walk into another church again. But God wasn’t done with us. In this episode, we share what happened when we decided to try church again and how God slowly began to convict, reshape, and soften our hearts. We talk about “church shopping,” joining small groups, finding community, and the quiet moments where the Holy Spirit started speaking louder than our comfort. This wasn’t overnight transformation. It was God patiently pulling on us, layer by layer. This is where things start to shift. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast New episodes weekly as we walk through our full testimony. Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • January 20 · 32 min

    EPISODE 3 | God, New Age, Witchcraft… Lost

    In this episode, we open up about a season where we were searching for healing, truth, and spiritual fulfillment everywhere except God. From New Age practices to witchcraft and counterfeit spirituality, we share how deception can look like light when you don’t yet know the truth. We talk honestly about why these paths felt appealing, what drew us in, and how they ultimately left us more confused, anxious, and spiritually empty. This episode isn’t about condemnation—it’s about exposure, discernment, and how God lovingly pulled us out of places we didn’t even realize were harming us. This is part of our full testimony series leading up to the moment everything changed. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast 📅 New episodes weekly 📖 From lost to found, from confusion to clarity Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S1 · E2
    January 13 · 37 min

    EPISODE 2 | Church Hurt, LGBTQ+ Identity & Almost Walking Away from God

    In this episode, we open up about the season of church hurt that deeply impacted our faith while being in the LGBTQ+ community. We share what it was like to walk into churches seeking God, only to feel misunderstood, unseen, or wounded by people who represented Him imperfectly. We talk honestly about the confusion, the disappointment, and how close we came to walking away from faith altogether. This episode isn’t about bashing the Church it’s about telling the truth, naming the pain, and explaining how church hurt can push people further from God if it’s not handled with grace and humility. This is part of our full testimony, shared week by week, to show how God met us even in the places that almost broke our faith and how He continued to draw us to Himself despite it all. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast New episodes every week Full testimony unfolding step by step Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/ Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/ Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/ Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

  • S1 · E1
    January 6 · 50 min

    Episode 1 | Before Christ: Our Beginning

    Before we ever knew God, before conviction, before surrender, there was a beginning. In this first episode of the Nevertheless Podcast, we take you back to who we were before Christ. We share our backgrounds, how we met, and the foundation our relationship was built on when Jesus was not at the center. This episode isn’t about judgment or hindsight perfection. It’s about honesty. About what love looked like to us before we knew the God who is love. About the choices, beliefs, and patterns that shaped our lives long before transformation began. This is the starting point of our testimony. The context matters before the change can be understood. Join us as we begin telling the story of how God took what was broken, confusing, and misdirected, and slowly began to redeem it—one step at a time. 🎧 Nevertheless Podcast New episodes weekly Follow Nina: https://www.instagram.com/drslay_pressplay/Follow Kandy: https://www.instagram.com/_indebeauty/Follow Nevertheless: https://www.instagram.com/nevertheless_podcast/Shop Onomaly: Onomalystore.com To support the work of Nevertheless, donate via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=KE27QH8FDL8RS

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