Means of Grace

Western North Carolina Conference of the United Methodist Church

Means of Grace, a podcast from the Western North Carolina Conference of the United Methodist Church, equips church leaders through expertise and examples. Twice a month, we feature local experts on a variety of topics from leadership to innovation and share examples of churches in our conference reaching their communities in news ways through mission engagement, Fresh Expressions and much more.

John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist movement, defined Means of Grace as the outward signs, words or actions that are the ordinary channels conveying God's grace to the souls of people. So when we're talking about leadership or discipleship or an outreach initiative, it's about more than doing a program well, it's a means of God's grace to the world.

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#172
October 22 · 1 hr 4 min
Why Discipleship Matters More with Rev. Lory Beth Huffman
In this episode, Reverend Lory Beth Huffman shares her journey into ministry, her experiences as a district superintendent, and insights into the Appalachian District's unique challenges and opportunities. Discover how faith, leadership, and community resilience shape her work and the future of the church. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Lory Beth Huffman and her background 04:57 The influence of campus ministry and early ministry experiences 08:01 Navigating change and cultural shifts in the church 12:15 The vital role of small churches and rural communities 16:28 The work of a district superintendent and connectional ministries 20:33 The spiritual responsibility and leadership in the conference 23:08 The importance of living out faith and living in community 25:38 A moment of vulnerability and unexpected joy in ministry 28:14 The power of sermons and stories to impact lives 29:30 The importance of disciple-making and innovative ministry models 33:20 The future of worship and church engagement in a changing world 34:50 Supporting churches through recovery and resilience efforts 36:36 The role of connectional ministries and collaboration 40:42 The importance of shared vision and community support 43:02 Lessons learned from failure and difficult seasons 45:33 The significance of grief, patience, and pastoral care 48:37 The ongoing journey of faith, hope, and renewal 52:48 A call to trust in God's work and future opportunities 55:21 Supporting the Appalachian District through service and prayer 56:49 Closing remarks and gratitude for ministry
#171
October 8 · 38 min
Living Into Our Vision with John Crane & Rev. Dr. Stephanie Moore Hand
In this episode, Rev. Dr. Stephanie Moore Hand and John Crane explore how churches can live beyond their walls, connect evangelism with missional outreach, and collaborate effectively to make a faithful impact. The challenge is to find new ways to love boldly, serve joyfully, and lead courageously. The three-part webinar series will equip laity and clergy with practical strategies and resources to help their churches more effectively connect with their community, build missional partnerships, and transform their communities by reaching others with the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Format: Online, via Zoom Dates: October 26, November 2, November 9 Time: 7pm - 8pm Registration Link: https://wnc-reg.brtapp.com/LivingIntoOurVision Registration Deadline: Sunday, October 25, 2026 Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the series and guest introductions 00:23 Overview of the conference's focus on love, service, and leadership 00:45 The role of laity in church leadership and outreach 01:05 The biblical foundation of the church's mission 02:14 The importance of loving boldly and serving joyfully 05:04 What it means to lead courageously in today's context 07:25 Love for enemies and courageous service 08:52 The Holy Spirit's empowerment for evangelism 12:30 Addressing fears and resource challenges in church outreach 16:27 The movement of Christendom and evangelism in history 20:23 Transformative power of evangelism and personal stories 27:22 Upcoming learning series details and expectations 33:29 Final thoughts and encouragement to participate
#170
September 24 · 44 min
Wesley Pilgrimage Reflections with Rev. Hannah Howell and Rev. Blake Smarr
In this episode, Hannah Howell and Blake Smarr reflect on their pilgrimage through England, retracing Wesleyan history, and explore how the experience deepened their faith, understanding of history, and sense of community. They discuss the spiritual insights, surprising discoveries, and ongoing impact of walking in the footsteps of John Wesley. Read the Article here Chapters: 00:00 Introduction: The Wesleyan pilgrimage 01:38 Meet Hannah Howell and Blake Smarr 03:43 Hopes for the pilgrimage 05:17 Discovering new sides of John Wesley 07:22 Letting go of expectations and being present 08:44 Spiritual moments at Epworth and Aldersgate 12:30 Susanna Wesley's influence and daily discipline 15:33 Oxford, the Holy Club, and forming a personal faith 19:52 Communion and the connection across generations 23:00 Wesleyan history, slavery, and abolition 29:05 Whose stories are missing or overlooked? 33:08 Bringing the pilgrimage's lessons home 39:00 Finding grace in ordinary moments 42:43 Building community and lasting connections 45:57 "I left for England thinking…" 47:20 Closing reflections
#169
September 10 · 57 min
Healing from Religious & Spiritual Abuse
In this episode, Dr. Hannah Sutton-Adams, Rev. Dr. Susan Heafner-Heun & Rebecca Yates explore the concept of healing within the church, addressing religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and how churches can become safe spaces for healing and growth. Featuring experts from Matthews United Methodist Church, this conversation offers practical insights and spiritual reflections on transforming church communities. You are invited, on October 25, 2026, Matthews United Methodist Church will host a workshop titled Recognizing and Resisting Trauma - Faith Community
#168
August 27 · 57 min
Wonder Summit 2026 with Skyler Przygoda and Rev. Dr. Latricia Scriven
This episode explores the upcoming WONDER SUMMIT and innovative approaches to involving children in worship, emphasizing the importance of listening to their voices and reimagining church practices. Skyler Przygoda and Latricia Scriven share insights from the upcoming Wonder Summit, a transformative event for all church leaders. Remember to use code "SCHOOL" for a discount on your registration to the Wonder Summit!
#167
August 13 · 52 min
Ep. 167 - Leading with Grace: A Metro District Superintendent's Journey with Rev. David Hockett
In this episode, Rev. David Hockett shares his journey into ministry, his return to the role of Metro District Superintendent, and insights on leadership, change, and faith in challenging times. 00:00 Introduction to David Hockett and the Metro District Superintendent role 01:36 David's call to ministry and early formation in the church 05:02 Returning to district superintendent a second time 09:06 Leaving Davidson and moving into a new season 13:21 What a district superintendent actually does 16:05 Making space for clergy and laity to try new things 18:37 When DS leadership should be mostly invisible 20:44 The spiritual responsibility of serving on the cabinet 25:37 The human side of appointment making 32:16 Learning from failure and moving too slowly 39:23 What David is listening for in this season of church change 48:38 The church's calling to embody Christ in the world 51:04 The same call for laity and clergy alike 52:02 Two ways to support the work: prayer and presence
#166
July 30 · 43 min
No Mission Without Margin
Meredith Martin, the new conference treasurer and director of administrative services, shares her journey, experience, and vision for her new role. She emphasizes the importance of stewardship, accountability, and mission in managing the financial and administrative aspects of the conference. Meredith's background as a deacon, social worker, and nonprofit leader has prepared her to bring a unique perspective to her new role, ensuring responsible and strategic financial management aligned with the mission of the church. The conversation covers topics related to financial stewardship, integrity, and responsibility, as well as the importance of financial sustainability, margin, and creative vision. It also delves into best practices for church financial health, non-traditional giving, and asset management. Additionally, the discussion touches on personal interests, hobbies, and the importance of well-being in the context of professional responsibilities. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Meredith Martin 02:06 Meredith's Calling and Background 03:12 Meredith's Experience and Preparation 05:05 Meredith's Intersection of Background and Experience 09:12 Meredith's New Role and Early Experiences 13:33 Understanding the Role of Conference Treasurer 18:50 Meredith's Week and Responsibilities 23:31 Building Trust and Connecting with Local Churches 25:57 Stewardship as Ministry 27:40 Stewardship and Integrity 33:41 Financial Sustainability and Margin 36:14 Church Financial Health 39:35 Non-Traditional Giving and Asset Management 43:29 Personal Interests and Well-Being
#165
July 16 · 54 min
Pentecost Already Happened with Rev. Dr. Stephanie Moore Hand
In this episode, Rev. Dr. Stephanie Hand shares insights on the Holy Spirit's movement in church life, the importance of authentic evangelism, and reimagining church beyond traditional walls. Join us for a deep dive into spiritual renewal and practical steps for engaging the world with courage and compassion. Resources Western North Carolina Conference Susanna Wesley - Mother of Methodism Guest Links: Facebook Linked In Substack Chapters 00:00 Debriefing the Annual Conference 03:05 The Role of the Holy Spirit 05:36 Living Beyond the Walls of the Church 08:39 The Balance of Holy and Human 11:31 The Power of Holy Conferencing 14:26 Embracing Change and New Directions 17:22 Personal Stories of Faith and Growth 26:37 The Call to Courageous Action 28:34 Reimagining the Church's Future 32:02 Building Without a Blueprint 36:55 Assignments in Everyday Life 41:14 Discipleship and Personal Holiness 45:15 The Church as a Community Center 48:04 Embracing Technology in Evangelism 49:31 Rebuilding Church Evangelism 52:28 The Power of Connection in Ministry
#164
July 2 · 29 min
Highlights from the 2026 WNC Conference with Bishop Carter & Rev. Kim Ingram
This episode provides a comprehensive overview of the 2026 Western North Carolina Annual Conference, highlighting key initiatives, recognitions, and spiritual reflections that shape the future of the church in the region. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Conference Overview 02:37 Church Restoration Fund and Racial Justice Initiatives 04:08 Partnership with Ukraine-Moldova Conference 05:56 Reinstatement of Lauren Scruggs' Ordination Credentials 07:53 Recognition of Ministry Leaders and New Ordinations 09:57 Conference Budget and Financial Stewardship 12:36 Small Group Conversations and Community Engagement 14:20 Honoring Retiring and Deceased Clergy 14:48 Governance and Mission of the Conference 17:54 Pre-Conference Workshops and Engagement Opportunities 19:27 Commissioning of Presiding Elders and Leadership Development 21:17 Celebrations and Milestones in the Conference 22:29 Joy and Reflection on Inclusion and Progress 24:45 Worship as the Heart of the Conference 26:42 Closing Reflections and Call to Action 29:42 MOG-Like and Subscribe.mp4
#163
May 7 · 38 min
Handing It Off: Worship, Legacy, and the Future of Conference with Rev. Dr. Kaury Edwards
Join Jesse Enniss and John Yeager as they chat with Kaury Edwards, a visionary Annual Conference worship leader preparing to pass the baton after four years of shaping unforgettable conference experiences. Kaury shares the meticulous process of blending deep-rooted Methodist traditions with bold, innovative design that reimagines sacred space — from stunning backdrops inspired by Taylor Swift's Eras Tour to visual art that celebrates 660+ churches. You'll discover how intentional planning, community participation, and spiritual discernment turn routine gatherings into Holy Spirit-filled Annual Confernce celebrations. Show Notes: Annual Conference 2026 - June 18-21. Lake Junaluska, NC Failure-Sparked Innovation: The Key to Ensuring the Future of Local Churches by Kaury C. Edwards Chapters 00:00 The Heart of Annual Conference Worship 03:02 Planning and Preparation for Annual Conference Worship 06:05 Balancing Tradition and Creativity 09:11 Creative Elements in Worship 12:06 Engaging with Juneteenth 15:00 Transitioning Out of Leadership 18:01 Strangely Heartwarming Moments 22:42 Connecting Through Liturgy 23:59 Bold Creativity in Worship 26:21 Epic Fails 30:23 Embracing Failure as a Path to Growth 32:24 The Spirit's Role in Community 35:12 Anticipation for Annual Conference
#162
April 16 · 32 min
Peace by the Lake, Rebuild the Church: Pilgrimage, Change, and the Work Ahead
Summary This episode features insights on church leadership, the importance of humility, and navigating change during appointment season. Hosts Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the significance of mentorship, avoiding ego, and the power of community in faith-based leadership. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Peace Conference and Pilgrimage 05:31 Navigating Appointment Season 08:31 The Importance of Connection and Community 11:28 Theological Reflections on Leadership 14:25 The Role of Mentorship in Ministry 17:37 Epic Fails in Leadership 20:29 The Need for Balance in Ministry 23:22 Conclusion and Call to Action 32:02 MOG-Like and Subscribe
March 12 · 38 min
Re-Air: Healing and Hope in Anxious Times
MOG Re-Air from 2023: In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and Kim Ingram talk to Rev. Katherine Sherrill, a therapist, and United Methodist deacon, about the pervasive state of anxiety in our lives. They discuss how our relationship with God through the church can give hope and methods for de-escalating our worries. Share this holy conversation with a friend.
#161
February 26 · 46 min
Ashes and Roadmaps with Rev. Dr. In-Yong Lee
Summary In this episode of Means of Grace, John Yeager explores the significance of Lent and its evolution over the years, emphasizing the importance of reflection and spiritual growth. He is joined by Reverend Dr. In-Yong Lee, who shares her experiences as a district superintendent and the challenges faced by church leaders today. The conversation delves into the practices of Lent, including fasting, prayer, and giving, and discusses the recent regionalization within the United Methodist Church, highlighting the need for community support during these challenging times. Show Note: Quietly Courageous by Gil Rendle Chapters 00:00 Understanding Lent: A Journey of Reflection 02:57 The Role of Leadership in the Church 03:58 Navigating Challenges in Ministry 07:00 The Importance of Connection and Community 09:42 Practices of Faith: Prayer, Fasting, and Giving 12:51 The Essence of Fasting and Its Spiritual Significance 17:38 Tithing: Balancing Generosity and Responsibility 24:57 The Role of Wealth in Generosity 28:14 Understanding Regionalization in the UMC 36:01 Clergy Exhaustion and Community Support 44:43 Embracing Change During Lent 46:47 MOG-Like and Subscribe
#160
February 12 · 34 min
Disarming Hatred, Again and Still
Summary In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss, John Yeager, and Rev. Beth Crissman engage in a profound discussion about the ongoing conversation surrounding peace, particularly in the context of the upcoming 2026 Peace Conference. They explore the theme of 'Disarming Hatred' and the importance of practicing peace as a form of resistance in a world filled with division and hatred. The conversation delves into the historical context of hatred, the difference between worldly peace and the peace of Jesus, and the necessity of community and individual action in fostering compassion and understanding. The speakers emphasize the importance of preparation for the conference, including self-reflection and partnership in advocacy for peace. Show Notes: Peace Conference: March 13-15, 2026 Lake Junaluska, NC Chapters 00:00 The Ongoing Conversation About Peace 01:25 Introducing the 2026 Peace Conference 02:04 Changes and Continuities in the Peace Conference 04:44 The Historical Context of Hatred 06:09 Shifting the Narrative from Hate to Compassion 08:44 The Illusion of Peace in History 10:35 Jesus' Peace vs. Worldly Peace 12:21 The Long Road to Shalom 13:34 Disarming Hatred: A Call to Action 15:41 Understanding the Roots of Division 18:16 Self-Examination and the Danger of Hatred 20:30 Preparing for the Peace Conference 23:04 The Role of Anger in Advocacy 26:29 Final Thoughts and Encouragement 34:48 MOG-Like and Subscribe.mp4
#159
January 29 · 1 hr 2 min
God and the Machine with Rev. Nathan Webb
Summary In this conversation, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager engage with Nathan Webb, author of 'God and the Machine', to explore the intersection of faith and technology. They discuss the historical context of technology in relation to faith, the ethical implications of AI in ministry, and the importance of building relationships in a digital age. Nathan shares his experiences as a church planter and the role of AI in enhancing accessibility and community within the church. The discussion emphasizes the need for ethical considerations in the use of technology and the enduring relevance of love and grace in ministry. Bio: Nathan Webb is an ordained elder in The United Methodist Church and the founding pastor of Checkpoint Church, a digital-first United Methodist community. He writes and teaches at the intersection of faith, technology, and pop culture, creating accessible theology for digital natives and digital skeptics alike. Through YouTube, Twitch Substack, Discord, and other online platforms, Nathan reaches a global audience with weekly "nerdy sermons" and creative resources for churches navigating the digital age. Show Notes: God and the Machines Cokesbury Book Cokesbury Leader Guide Amazon Book Amazon Leader Guide The Remarkable Life of Ibelin News The A.I. Advantage The 2025 Annual Conference Journal Peace Conference 2026
#158
January 15 · 1 hr 2 min
What We Carry, What We Release
In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the themes of humility, connection, and community as they reflect on the past year and look forward to 2026. They emphasize the importance of letting go of unrealistic expectations and perfectionism while embracing change and experimentation in ministry. The conversation also highlights the church's role in society, the need for intentional spiritual life, and the power of asking for help. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to engage in public witness for the common good and to support one another in their journeys of faith. Show Notes: Bishop Carter shares his monthly pastoral letter and calendar with the WNCC. Human Relations Sunday - January 18th Equip & Connect in-person district gatherings will be happening on January 25th. Register for the 2026 Peace Conference coming up in March. Register for the Grant Skill Builder webinar happening later this month. Chapters 00:00 New Beginnings and Reflections for 2026 02:09 Understanding the Calendar: The Significance of 2026 07:08 What to Carry into 2026: Humility and Connection 12:25 Embracing Change: Letting Go of the Old 18:35 The Importance of Experimentation in Ministry 24:05 Adjusting Expectations: Meeting People Where They Are 30:32 Navigating First Impressions in Church 33:31 The Challenge of Welcoming Newcomers 35:27 Understanding Growth and Community Dynamics 38:25 Innovative Ministry Approaches 39:56 Letting Go of Shame and Embracing Vulnerability 47:59 Intentional Spiritual Life and Community Engagement 48:12 Conference Announcements 50:30 Intentional Spiritual Life and Community Engagement Continued 57:47 The Power of Asking for Help 01:02:05 MOG-Like and Subscribe
#156
Dec 31, 2025 · 48 min
2025 Means of Grace Year in Review
Thank you for all your support throughout 2025. To end the year, we've compiled a few of our most inspirational stories. We look forward to bringing you more episodes in 2026!
#156
Dec 10, 2025 · 37 min
Preparing Room: Mercy, Immigration, and the Quiet Defiance That Saves Lives
In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Rev. Dr. Luke Edwards reflect on the importance of being present for the vulnerable, particularly immigrants facing legal and social challenges. They discuss the launch of the Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund by the Western North Carolina Conference, aimed at providing support to immigrant families in need. The conversation emphasizes the role of the church in advocating for justice, offering compassion, and creating a welcoming community for those in distress. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage in meaningful support and accompaniment of their immigrant neighbors. Show Notes: WNCC Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund Conference Board of Pension and Health Benefits Contributes $100,000 to Support Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund The Listening Church
#155
Oct 22, 2025 · 47 min
The Heart of Ministry: Embracing Appreciation with Rev. Sally Queen
In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the vital role of appreciation in ministry with Reverend Sally Queen, who shares her experiences as a district superintendent. The conversation explores the challenges faced by churches today, the importance of recognizing and valuing clergy, and practical ways for congregations to show appreciation. The episode emphasizes that gratitude is essential for fostering relationships and supporting mental health within the church community. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the profound impact of community support, the importance of acknowledgment in relationships, and the need for clergy to humanize themselves by sharing vulnerabilities. They explore the significance of timely gratitude and the lasting effects of kind words. The discussion also highlights the value of lay leadership and the vision for a welcoming future in the church, emphasizing that appreciation is a continuous practice that sustains relationships and ministry. Announcements Clergy Day Apart - Thursday, Oct. 10, 2025 An Advent Retreat with Dr. Cynthia Weems: For Students, Teachers and Preachers of the Bible - Thursday, Nov. 13 The Serve Well newsletter on Clergy Appreciation eLead on Church Staff Appreciation Month
#154
Oct 8, 2025 · 1 hr 35 min
Missional Sanctification
Summary In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, John and Jesse host Rev. Pam Carter, Wanda Musgrave and Rev. Wayner Dickert who discuss the complex realities of Haiti, the legacy of Dr. Maklin Eugene, and the transformative power of community-driven initiatives. They share personal stories of connection, resilience, and the ongoing challenges faced by the Haitian people. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building relationships, learning from failures, and continuing the work that Dr. Eugene started, even in his absence. The guests reflect on their experiences in Haiti, the joy found in the communities, and the hope for the future as they honor Dr. Eugene's legacy. Dr. Eugene Maklin: A Tireless Healer, Visionary Leader, and Beloved Friend Partners 4 Hope

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