Mamamia Out Loud

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Australia's #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It's your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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Mar 22, 2019 · 19 min
BONUS: We Need To Talk About Scott Morrison & Waleed Aly
On Thursday night, The Project’s Waleed Aly sat down with Prime Minister Scott Morrison for an intense, commercial-free interview. The segment covered whether or not our current government has capitalised on Islamophobia, and the place One Nation has within Australian politics. Our very own Rachel Corbett was a co-host on Thursday night’s episode of The Project, and on today’s show she offers some insight into what it was like behind the scenes. In this special bonus episode of Mamamia Out Loud, Mia, Jessie and Rachel unpack the interview that stopped the nation. For more on Waleed’s interview with ScoMo read here… https://www.mamamia.com.au/the-project-waleed-aly-scott-morrison/ For Waleed’s impassioned monologue on Christchurch… https://www.mamamia.com.au/waleed-aly-christchurch/ END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Rachel Corbett Producer: Elissa Ratliff & Rachel Corbett COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 20, 2019 · 39 min
This Is What A Leader Looks Like
On Friday afternoon, an Australian white supremacist walked into a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand and opened fire on the people who were gathered for Friday prayers. He live-streamed the attack on Facebook as he shot dead 50 people and injured many others at two mosques. It was a shocking attack and it rocked the world. One shining light out of this whole situation has been the way Jacinda Ardern has acted in the wake of the shooting. The internet has been flooded with photos of her comforting the New Zealanders and speaking to the nation about how this behaviour won't be tolerated. There's a lot of love for the NZ Prime Minister right now and we think it's totally justified. Plus, we discuss the Fraser Anning egg situation and whether it's ever ok to egg someone, even if their views are awful. Distractions Mia: Watching Captain Marvel at the movies, listening to No Filter with Josh & Sean Szeps Holly: Speaking to family and friends and rewatching Game Of Thrones Jessie: Watching Married At First Sight and Insight on SBS about Loneliness END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 15, 2019 · 35 min
Why Aunt Becky Went To Jail
In case you missed it, Felicity Huffman and Full House star Lori Loughlin, aka Aunty Becky, have been arrested over a $US25 million ($A35 million) college cheating scandal. They're among dozens of people who've been caught spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to bride their children's way into elite universities like Yale and Stanford. So is this the world we live in now? Plus, Holly is back with another Brexit explainer. And yes, that sh*t is still messy. And what do you do if your boss asks you to buy her lunch every day? We’re joined by Mamamia’s Head of People And Culture, Nicolle Stuart to answer a very tricky group therapy... Recommendations Mia: This American Life - Unconditional Love Holly: The Quicky Episode 'The Sex Sharing Culture In Men's Sport' https://omny.fm/shows/the-quicky/sex-tapes-nrl-pick-up-culture Jessie: The Pocket Prints App END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 13, 2019 · 28 min
The Great Chicken Sandwich Dilemma
Do you eat the same thing every day for lunch? How about breakfast? And why does it matter? A recent article in the Atlantic looked at people who eat the same thing every day and as a regular chicken sandwich eater, Jessie thinks it’s a great idea. Holly thinks it’s boring...until she realises she’s not all that adventurous herself. So does eating the same thing every day make you a bore or a decision making genius? Plus, following Mia’s recent interview with Gemma Hartley, the Outlouders discuss the complexities around emotional labour in a relationship and how it’s leaving women exhausted. So, is it really the responsibility for women to tell men to step up and do the dishes or should they do it without being asked? And is the situation the same in same-sex couples? WANT MORE? Listen to Mia’s interview with Gemma Hartley on the most recent episode of No Filter here… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/emotional-labour/ Listen to our bonus episode debriefing the verdict of Archbishop George Pell here… https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/mamamia-out-loud/george-pell-extra/ END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Amelia Navascues and Rachel Corbett COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 13, 2019 · 21 min
EXTRA: George Pell, Michael Jackon & The Whole Damned Thing
The world just watched Melbourne County Chief Judge, Peter Kidd as he sentenced pedophile George Pell to six years in prison for the sexual abuse of two young boys, with a non-parole period of three years and eight months. Is that really enough for the pain this man has caused the victims and their loved ones? Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens walked straight into the studio after watching the sentence handed down via live stream. This is a special bonus episode of the show and a regular ep will be dropped this afternoon. If you have experienced sexual assault and are in need of support, please call 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. Help is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You can also contact Bravehearts for counselling and support for survivors of sexual abuse on 1800 272 831, Lifeline for 24-hour crisis support and suicide prevention, or, if you’re the partner of a person who has experienced sexual assault, you can contact PartnerSPEAK on (03) 9018 7872 for peer support for non-offending partners. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 8, 2019 · 39 min
The Performative Friendship Group
Happy International Women’s Day! As we were planning this show - we thought about how we could do things a little differently. Usually, radios decide that International Women’s Day is a great day to feature some women's voices. But here at Mamamia, we don't reduce that gift to 24 hours a year. We deliver it to you every single day. Taylor Swift has some regrets about her 2015 squad, but who hasn’t had a performative friendship in their 20s? Plus, videos of NRL players having sex are being shared on an almost daily basis in Whatsapp group chats across the country. So are you complicit in image-based abuse if you watch them? And what do you do when your coworkers think you’re a lot younger than you are? Yep, it’s group therapy time... Recommendations Mia: Workin' Moms on Netflix Holly: David Tennant does a podcast with...Olivia Coleman Jessie: Mamamia's International Women's Day Video you can watch here: https://www.mamamia.com.au/video-if-a-man-lived-like-a-woman-for-a-day/ END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 6, 2019 · 32 min
The Scariest Thing On The Internet
Heard the word Momo a lot this week but not sure what it is? Jessie’s here to explain. It's the internet challenge that seems to be scaring children and parents so much that Kim Kardashian had to intervene. But is Momo actually real? Or is it the modern day equivalent of the monster under the bed? Plus, why are women rubbing period blood on their faces? And no, it’s not for a beauty challenge. And what you need to know about the Michael Jackson Leaving Neverland documentary that is airing here on Friday. Mia’s away this week so Rachel Corbett joins Holly and Jessie to discuss... END BITS Hosts: Rachel Corbett, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mar 1, 2019 · 32 min
This Is A Moment For Outrage
Just a warning, this episode of Mamamia Out Loud will be speaking about the George Pell case which may be distressing. For 24-hour support, please call 1800 RESPECT. On Tuesday, after three months under a suppression order, the world learned that Cardinal George Pell was guilty of five counts of child sexual abuse. What has happened next is quite surprising. Former Prime Ministers Tony Abbott and John Howard came out in support of Pell. So why are they defending a convicted paedophile? Plus, Mia Freedman weighs in on the Khloe Kardashian / Tristan Thompson / Jordyn Woods cheating saga, with a bit of help from Jessie. And we introduce a new segment with a terrifying intro. All this and more on the latest episode of Mamamia Out Loud... Recommendations Mia: Jon Ronson on Russell Brand's podcast https://overcast.fm/+IjENa-leI Holly: Singer Jason Isbell Jessie: A (problematic) game called Secret Hittler Read Jessie's story on George Pell here: https://www.mamamia.com.au/cardinal-george-pell-2/ END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 27, 2019 · 35 min
What Jordan Peterson Gets Wrong About Women
If you listened to the show last week, you would’ve heard Holly and Jessie saying they were off to see controversial Canadian psychologist and best-selling author, Jordan Peterson live. Well, that happened and Holly may or may not have been converted to Jordan’s way of life. Plus, we’ve all heard of work wives, but what about work mums? A work mum is the person at work who you go to for life advice. Jessie thinks it’s problematic but Mia thinks it’s flattering. And of course, we’ve got an Oscars recap because it wouldn’t be Mamamia Out Loud without one... END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 22, 2019 · 33 min
The $20 Million Fake Love Story
In case you missed it, Lady Gaga got a new tattoo this week that pays homage to A Star Is Born. It’s a rose on her back with the La Vie En Rose lyrics but it seems the tattoo and her very public friendship with Bradley Cooper is part of a $20 million Oscars campaign. And Mia Freedman is calling bullshit. Plus, wondering why people are now practicing micro-dosing with illegal drugs? Jessie Stephens speaks to Dr. Brad McKay about why more and more professionals are choosing to take small amounts of LSD at work. And remember the ISIS Brides? Holly wants to know whether or not they should be allowed to come home. All this and more on the latest episode of Mamamia Out Loud. Recommendations Mia: Dirty John on Netflix Holly: Bettina Liano Jeans from Target Jessie: Going to the movies and seeing Instant Family Read the Bradley Cooper profile here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/27/movies/bradley-cooper-a-star-is-born.html END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 20, 2019 · 31 min
Are Women Killing Meghan Markle?
Are you a woman? Apparently, it's your fault Meghan Markle is being hounded by the media. That’s according to The Times columnist Carol Midgley, but Mia Freedman strongly disagrees. So is our desire for gossip and pictures deadly, or just a bit of fun? Karl Lagerfeld, the Creative Director of Chanel, died at the age of 85 earlier this week. And while everyone is talking about his contribution to fashion, Jessie thinks there’s something else that he got right - and it's about relationships. And why do scammers find it so easy to manipulate women? The answer is really bloody sad. END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 17, 2019 · 14 min
BONUS: Introducing The Quicky...
Have you heard? We've got a new podcast here at Mamamia. It's a daily show called The Quicky. And we want to introduce it to you... The Quicky is the easiest and most enjoyable way to get across the news every day. And it’s delivered straight to your ears in a daily podcast so you can listen whenever you want, wherever you are...at the gym, on the train, in the playground or at night while you're making dinner. In this episode of The Quicky, we unravel the story of missing Dubai Princess, Latifa bint Mohammed al-Maktoum. In March 2018 Princess Latifa, the 33 year old daughter of Dubai’s ruler Sheikh Mohammed, attempted to escape her oppressive life after years of torture, imprisonment, and lack of basic human rights. Unfortunately Latifah’s escape didn’t go to plan and she was recaptured on a yacht off the coast of India. She hasn’t been seen publicly since. We speak with the CEO of Detained In Dubai, Radha Stirling, who helped Latifa with her escape attempt and is continuing to raise awareness about the case. As you will hear, Latifa’s life is far from a fairytale and life behind the palace walls is anything but safe. CREDITS Host/Producer: Claire Murphy Executive Producer: Elle Beattie Audio Producer: Ian Camilleri With thanks to special guest Radha Stirling. Follow Radha on Twitter at @detainedindubai To read more on this story, you can head to www.mamamia.com.au/the-story-of-princess-latifa Want The Quicky in your ears every day? Subscribe at mamamia.com.au/the-quicky or in your favourite podcast app. Love the show? Send us an email thequicky@mamamia.com.au or call the podphone 02 8999 9386. Thanks to our launch partners, MyBudget. Live your life, free from money worries at mybudget.com.au. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 15, 2019 · 34 min
Why Would Anyone Need A Sex Button?
Have you ever experienced the 3pm shock? If you’re a working mum, chances are this sounds very familiar. It’s when you realise there are two hours between when the school day finishes and when the work day finishes. And Mia thinks something needs to change. Plus, everything you need to know about sex buttons - and what they're meant to be used for. And the Pauline Hanson sexual assault allegations explained. Recommendations Mia: The Cry on ABC. Holly: Joining a choir to make yourself feel better. Jessie: Listening to Who The Hell Is Hamish podcast by The Australian. END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 13, 2019 · 37 min
Why Are We Weighing People On National TV?
Did you wear make up to school? A girl’s school in Victoria has made headlines after students were made to remove eyelash extensions before their school photos. And a question we couldn’t help but ask this week: Why on earth are we still weighing people on television? Yvie Jones’ protest at a weigh in on I’m a Celebrity has gone viral for all the right reasons. Plus, a picture of a penis and what The Washington Post, President Donald Trump and Saudi Arabia have to do with it. END BITS Read Holly Wainwright's article about Ben Barba here. Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 8, 2019 · 37 min
Well, That Was Embarrassing
Bradley Cooper admitted to Oprah this week that he was embarrassed that he hadn’t been nominated for Best Director by the Oscars. Which got us thinking, when it comes to things like failure, is embarrassment the feeling we are most afraid of? Last week, recently elected 29-year-old US politician Alexandria Ocarsio-Cortez posted a five-page Instagram story on her skin routine. An 'old school' female politician would NEVER have done this for fear of being seen as shallow and too 'female'. So have we turned a corner in time? And Mia has realised that everyone has news blindness. Her’s is sport - so what’s yours? Recommendations Mia: Leigh Campbell on No Filter https://omny.fm/shows/no-filter/what-leigh-campbell-s-instagram-won-t-tell-you Holly: Under The Skin with Candace Owen https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/058-populist-revolution-will-it-go-left-or-right-candace/id1212064750?i=1000425832143&mt=2 Jessie: The Munk Debate on the Jordan B Petersen podcast https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/52-munk-debate-political-correctness/id1184022695?i=1000413449527&mt=2 END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 6, 2019 · 31 min
The Reason Women Are Relaunching
Have you heard of the relaunch? It’s what all the young people are doing on social media after they've come out of a break-up and Jessie is here to explain it to us. Yesterday, the NRL banned Ben Barba for life after CCTV footage of an altercation with his wife was viewed by its Integrity Unit. So does this mean there’s finally a shift in how violent footballers are handled, and is it really cause for celebration? And there’s a new kind of job interview that you might get asked to sit through. And it involves making people cry. END BITS Read Holly Wainwright's article about Ben Barba here. Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Feb 1, 2019 · 35 min
The Great Relationship Conversation Test
Married At First Sight is back this week, and on Thursday night it got Jessie thinking (you can read her specific thoughts here) about whether there was a right or a wrong way to have a conversation with a partner. Because it seems that in every relationship, there’s a person who wants to moan and a person who wants to offer solutions. So should a conversation have a goal? Plus, Mia feels silly because she missed one of the biggest news stories in Australia right now. So Holly and Jessie are here to explain what is going on with the Darling River and the millions of dead fish floating in it. And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, one of the most generous employers in America, has just announced that it is cutting paid parental leave from a year to six months, so is a year with a baby really not what a mother needs? Recommendations Mia: Sex Education on Netflix Holly: Killing Eve on SBS Jessie: Napolean Perdis China Doll Eyeliner END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 30, 2019 · 31 min
What Happens When Two Women Fight
Two women had an argument on morning television and everyone lost their minds. To read the opinions of indigenous women on the Kerri-Anne Kennerly/Yumi Stynes Australia Day argument, go here. And we discuss whether two women can ever publicly disagree without unleashing a barrage of toxic abuse. Plus, which Bradley Cooper do you want to date? Look, it's very important to discuss what your choice says about you. And what was the highlight of your day? What went wrong during your day? And what are you looking forward to tomorrow? We’ve got a new mindfulness game we want to introduce you to and we’re not sure if we love it or hate it. END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 25, 2019 · 16 min
Three First Nations Women On January 26
It's January 26. And on this special episode of Mamamia Out Loud, we are passing the mics to three First Nations women from different parts of the country - Tanya Orman, Maddie Richey and Karla Grant - to tell us what 'Australia Day' means to them. Your host is Jessie Stephens. With thanks to... Maddy Richey Karla Grant and Tanya Orman. COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jan 25, 2019 · 30 min
Am I Being Unreasonable?
Is it ever okay for someone to confiscate your phone when you’re a grown-up? It happened to Holly last week and she paid for the privilege. Now, she’s a bit confused. And if you don’t know what a shut down is, but are hoping it’s got something to do with locking Donald Trump away somewhere the sun doesn’t shine, we have an explainer for you. WITH AMELIA LESTER. Plus, recommendations are very surprising this week. Jokes, Holly is recommending a stand up special and Jessie a documentary, but they are still good. We promise. Recommendations Mia: The Mother In Law by Sally Hepworth Holly: Russell Brand's new comedy special on Netflix Jessie: Fyre on Netflix END BITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright. Producers: Elissa Ratliff COME TALK TO US Join the Out Louders Facebook group GET IN TOUCH: Call the PodPhone on 02 8999 9386. Email the show at outloud@mamamia.com.au Find any book mentioned at apple.co/mamamia Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia. Find more shows here. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.