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All Pack. All Nonsense. 2023 WBA Young Professional of the Year Kyle Wallace and Former Badger and Radio Ink 30 Under 30 awardee Ben Brust team up.

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August 19 · 41 min
Hour 2: T-Plush Believes and Bears Fans Spiral
Hour 2 opens with Brewers legend Nyjer Morgan joining the Yuengling Legends Line after Milwaukee’s 22-run eruption and strong series against the Dodgers. T-Plush says Luis Lara’s first homer absolutely counts, argues the Brewers have enough to make a World Series push, and says October will come down to timely hitting, defense, health and staying “plush.” He backs Jake Bauers, Jackson Chourio and Joey Ortiz as hitters he would trust in big moments, while also saying Christian Yelich still deserves belief because veterans can change a game with one swing. Packers talk takes over after Cubs and White Sox fans break into a “Green Bay sucks” chant, sending Kyle into a full rant about Chicago sports fans being obsessed with the Packers. The hour closes with another round of national Packers disrespect after Colin Cowherd predicts Green Bay will finish last in the NFC North, with Kyle firing back that Jordan Love, Matt LaFleur and the Packers should be competing with the Lions for the division.
August 19 · 43 min
Hour 3: Brewers Cash and Love Handles Business
The 414 Hour opens with Ben offering Kyle a piece of his Brewers over-85.5 wins bet, giving the guys another reason to track Milwaukee’s push toward the NL Central crown. They revisit how the Brewers have continued to beat preseason expectations, why Craig Counsell in Cubs gear still feels wrong to Ben, and why Nyjer Morgan’s comments about rest and health stood out during the stretch run. Jordan Love then joins the conversation after telling Rich Eisen the Packers need to “handle business” in the NFC North, which leads Ben and Kyle to debate whether Green Bay, Detroit and Chicago all belong in the division race. Kyle refuses to fully buy the Bears after one strong season, while Ben argues Chicago has at least done enough to be taken seriously. Catastrophic closes with CKatt’s dark-room exile, Jen, Gabe and Chewy calling Kyle the No. 1 Packers “toad,” a Cubs fan waving a Packers flag during a “Green Bay sucks” chant, and Homer judging potential baby names before the Homer Hour.
August 18 · 46 min
Hour 1: CKatt’s Exit and Packers Hype Fights
Ben and Kyle open Tuesday’s show still unloading on CKatt after he revealed he is leaving ESPN Wisconsin for ESPN Chicago and admitted he roots against the Packers. The guys accuse him of hiding his true feelings from the K&B family, while callers and texters pile on with goodbye messages for the “snake” in the producer chair. Packers disrespect returns when Unsportsmanlike calls Green Bay overhyped, leading Kyle and Ben to push back on the idea that Jordan Love, Matt LaFleur and the Packers are getting too much national love. They argue the offensive line is the real concern, but the defense, healthy weapons and eventual return of Micah Parsons make Green Bay a much different team than the one that faded late last season. Mark Tauscher joins to dismiss the overhyped label, explain that training-camp competition is just NFL business, and call for an end to the “I’m not saying, but I’m saying” hedge across ESPN Wisconsin.
August 18 · 41 min
Hour 2: Props, Stamps and Packers Pass Targets
Hour 2 begins with Chad in Fitchburg beating Ben in Are You Smarter Than Ben Brust, thanks in part to questions about Mark Twain, Aerosmith, Baby Shark, Istanbul, stamps and CKatt’s short stay with Kyle and Brust. The guys then turn to Green Bay Props and Preview, breaking down Jordan Love’s passing total and where the yards could go among Tucker Kraft, Christian Watson, Matthew Golden and Jayden Reed. Kyle likes the idea of Love throwing more and believes Golden, Kraft and Watson can all clear their numbers, while Ben sees Jayden Reed’s lower total as the safest value. The conversation also hits Rashan Gary’s sack total, Brandon Cissé’s Defensive Rookie of the Year odds and whether the Packers’ wide receiver room is being undervalued because no single target is projected like a true No. 1. Later, Ben and Kyle react to Mark DeRosa calling Jake Bauers Milwaukee’s offensive MVP, debating whether Bauers’ consistency is a great story or a warning sign for the Brewers if William Contreras, Bryce Turang, Jackson Chourio and Christian Yelich do not heat up before October.
August 18 · 43 min
Hour 3: Brewers Belief and Zaire’s Edge
The 414 Hour opens with Ben and Kyle measuring how confident they are that the Brewers could beat the Dodgers in a postseason series after Milwaukee’s strong weekend in Los Angeles. Kyle lands around 37.5 percent in an NLCS matchup because the Dodgers still have more talent and playoff pedigree, while Ben’s head says 45 percent but his heart wants to push much higher. The guys debate whether Milwaukee’s young pitching, Jake Bauers’ bat and the Brewers’ team identity can overcome the lack of proven October power against teams like the Dodgers. Zaire Franklin then fires Kyle up with comments about his ultra-competitive mentality, leading to a full defense of why Franklin, Edgerrin Cooper, Micah Parsons, Xavier McKinney and Jeffery Simmons give Green Bay a tougher defensive edge. Catastrophic covers Packers fans ranking third in a Nielsen study, stadium etiquette, CKatt’s latest DMV failure, American Family Field’s staying power, Instagram Reels from parents, and final props on Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Matthew Golden and Tucker Kraft before the Homer Hour.
August 17 · 45 min
Hour 1: Nixon Drama and LaFleur Mood Swings
Ben and Kyle open Monday’s show with Keisean Nixon saying he feels like he is being “punished” as the Packers continue rotating him through different roles at cornerback and special teams. Kyle says Nixon is not being punished, he is being held accountable for poor tackling effort and inconsistent play, while Ben worries Green Bay still needs him because the cornerback room does not have many proven options. Gary Ellerson’s defense of Nixon sparks a bigger debate over whether Packers fans should rally behind him or demand more from a veteran who wants to be paid. The guys then turn to Matt LaFleur, with Kyle wondering whether the coach is acting differently after his extension by taking public shots at Aaron Banks, challenging Nixon and kicking Baron Sorrell out of practice. The hour closes with Jesse Nelson getting roasted for predicting Wisconsin can beat Notre Dame, mostly because his reasoning centers on timing, prime time and new Notre Dame players instead of actual Badgers football evidence.
August 17 · 42 min
Hour 2: Tucker’s Risk and CKatt’s Betrayal
Hour 2 starts with Tucker Kraft explaining why he continues practicing through contract risk, saying he is thinking about the team and the violent reality of football rather than protecting himself. That conversation gets hijacked when CKatt messes up, leading to the on-air reveal that he is leaving ESPN Wisconsin for ESPN Chicago. Ben and Kyle unload on CKatt after he admits he roots against the Packers and wants the Bears to beat Green Bay, with callers and texters joining in to brand him a traitor. Jason Wilde joins to explain why Kraft is taking a real risk by practicing before a new deal, even though he believes the Packers and Kraft’s side are negotiating and could still get something done before the season. Wilde also gives a fuller picture of Keisean Nixon’s comments, saying fans may be too quick to focus only on the “punished” line while ignoring the rest of what Nixon said about competing wherever the Packers put him.
August 17 · 43 min
Hour 3: Brewers Hope and Bulaga’s Line Alarm
The 414 Hour opens with Ben and Kyle feeling much better about the Brewers after Milwaukee takes three of four from the Dodgers following a rough sweep in San Diego. Ben highlights the way the Brewers found hits, manufactured runs and responded with Jacob Misiorowski, Logan Henderson and Jake Bauers leading the way, while Kyle says Henderson’s win over Tarik Skubal gave him more confidence in Milwaukee’s young pitching plan. The guys debate whether the Brewers are truly the best team in baseball or simply the team with the best record, while still acknowledging that October matchups against the Dodgers, Phillies or Braves remain a much different test. Catastrophic turns into a sendoff-style disaster for CKatt, covering youth travel baseball excess, Pat McAfee’s album, and whether this should be the final Catastrophic after his Bears-rooting betrayal. Brian Bulaga joins late and says the Packers’ offensive line questions are real, especially if Jacob Monk and Jager Burton are starting guards around a still-developing Jordan Morgan and Sean Rhyan.
August 14 · 48 min
Hour 1: Smack Hype and Brewers Fight Back
Ben and Kyle open Friday’s show reacting to the Packers’ preseason loss to the Steelers, but Kyle says it still felt like a win because Trey Smack delivered a perfect kicking debut. Kyle is ready to declare the rookie kicker the next Mason Crosby after two 58-yard makes, while Ben tries to keep perspective because it was still only one preseason game. The guys also debate whether Smack’s night or the Brewers’ ninth-inning comeback against the Dodgers mattered more, with Ben siding firmly with Milwaukee after five singles helped end a frustrating skid. Whitefish Bay’s Little League run against Iowa weaves through the hour, including Kyle’s hometown pride, Craig Counsell jokes and the painful extra-innings loss. Packers talk closes with encouraging signs from Lucas Van Ness, Jordan Morgan and Brandon Cissé, but serious concern over Keisean Nixon’s missed tackle, the cornerback competition and the still-unsettled offensive line.
August 14 · 40 min
Hour 2: Florio Slights and Kyle’s Guess Who
Hour 2 starts with Ben defending his no-cuddle bedtime rules after his daughter kept asking to be held, which quickly becomes another debate over the Brust household’s “only winners” standard. Packers disrespect returns when Mike Florio ranks Green Bay 16th in his preseason power rankings, behind teams like the Bears, Texans and Bengals. Kyle unloads on Florio as a Vikings fan and Packers hater, arguing Green Bay should be much closer to the top 10 even with Micah Parsons expected to miss the start of the season. The guys also discuss how much a possible Josh Jacobs suspension would change the offense, with Ben saying it could force Matt LaFleur to let Jordan Love throw more while Kyle worries about Marshawn Lloyd and Chris Brooks carrying the backfield. Guess Who closes the hour with Kyle revisiting his takes on sneezing during the plague, swamp-ass checks, betting spreads, discount lettuce, Brazilian waxes and CKatt’s movie-popcorn standards.
August 14 · 44 min
Hour 3: T-Shirt Drama and Splitter Science
The 414 Hour opens with Torey Lowe joining the show without Kyle’s long-awaited wedding-gift T-shirt, sending Ben into a full investigation of whether the shirt even exists and why it has been sitting in Mequon for more than a week. Tori, Kyle and Ben then turn back to the Packers, debating whether Trey Smack was the clear No. 1 takeaway from the preseason opener and whether the offensive line or defensive depth remains the bigger concern. Brewers talk takes over with Milwaukee’s five-single ninth-inning comeback against the Dodgers, the Cubs staying close, Robert Gasser facing Yoshinobu Yamamoto and the upcoming Jacob Misiorowski start versus the Logan Henderson-Tarik Skubal matchup. Catastrophic covers the Field of Dreams hot dog menu, CKatt’s old gas-station hot dog routine and his movie-pass obsession before Homer crashes in to argue that splitters, knuckleballs, cutters and sweepers are all just variations of four basic pitches. The hour ends with Ben revealing he hid Kyle’s missing eight-iron, Gary Ellerson stopping by, and Homer joining Kyle in declaring Trey Smack’s preseason debut historically great.
August 13 · 48 min
Hour 1: Brewers Panic and Liberating Love
Ben and Kyle open Thursday’s show with a safe-space Brewers vent session after Milwaukee gets swept by the Padres and drops another tight game because of missed chances with runners in scoring position. Ben is frustrated by the lack of timely hitting, the failure to move Joey Ortiz over in a key fifth-inning spot, and the late-game bullpen choices that helped San Diego tie it before winning in extras. Kyle says the slump exposes the same concern he had at the deadline: the Brewers still may not have enough dependable pop, especially if Christian Yelich is not that veteran run-producing bat. The guys debate whether Brewers fans should be watching the Cubs in the rearview mirror or focusing on the Dodgers, Braves and upcoming playoff-caliber tests. Mina Kimes then sparks Packers talk by pointing out how run-heavy Matt LaFleur was last season, giving Kyle more evidence for his “Liberate Love” campaign before Over/Under tests the guys on Aaron Rodgers’ favorite Packers touchdown targets.
August 13 · 40 min
Hour 2: Tucker’s Price and Love’s Proof
Hour 2 starts with Adam Schefter predicting Tucker Kraft’s extension could reset the tight end market at around $20 million per year, leading Ben and Kyle to debate what kind of production should come with that contract. Kyle says he loves Kraft but would expect unquestioned top-three tight end results if he becomes the highest-paid player at the position. Jason Wilde joins to preview Packers-Steelers preseason night and says the offensive line, Trey Smack and the cornerback competition are Green Bay’s biggest watch points. Wilde also says Matt LaFleur’s decision not to signal good or no-good on camp kicks was soft, even though he still believes LaFleur is a good coach. Later, Chris Canty’s demand that Jordan Love win a playoff game fuels another Packers disrespect conversation, with Kyle arguing Love played at an elite level against Chicago while Ben says winning the division and advancing deeper in the playoffs are what will quiet the debate.
August 13 · 43 min
Hour 3: Golf Chaos and Packers Prop Night
The 414 Hour opens with Kyle bringing a single golf club into the studio as Ben and CKatt try to explain which iron he should use, what a green in regulation means, and why his upcoming par-three bet already feels chaotic. The conversation turns into a full CKatt life audit as the guys debate his nine-and-a-half-year relationship, whether he should be golfing with listeners at 6:40 a.m., and how quickly is too quickly to get engaged. Packers preseason talk takes over with Green Bay Props and Preview, including Skyy Moore return yards, Jordan Love hits, Aaron Rodgers camera shots, Trey Smack puns, missed field goals, Marshawn Lloyd yards, Super Bowl XLV references and how many conclusions the guys will overreact to by morning. Catastrophic includes CKatt inviting listeners to join his early tee time, ESPN’s top-50 MLB list putting Jacob Misiorowski fourth and Bryce Turang 16th, and a surprisingly strong DMV photo that sends the segment sideways. Bryan Bulaga joins late to preview the offensive line, Trey Smack and Jordan Love’s pre-snap command, while also defending Iowa’s offensive line résumé against Wisconsin’s.
August 12 · 48 min
Hour 1: Ben Johnson Envy and Brust Family Lies
Ben and Kyle open Wednesday’s show with Woolley revealing there is someone new in his life before Ben turns the focus to his daughter allegedly working both home and daycare for extra potty-training rewards. Kyle says the toddler’s manipulation sounds like classic Brust behavior, leading to a full debate over whether Ben is the real reason his daughter has started stretching the truth. Josh DiMaggio joins to explain why he wishes Matt LaFleur had more of Ben Johnson’s aggressive edge, with Kyle firing back that LaFleur’s résumé still deserves more respect than Chicago’s new coach. The guys and callers debate whether LaFleur is too soft, too conservative, or simply being judged harshly because the Packers have not reached the next level with Jordan Love. The hour closes with Ben telling the story of Russell Westbrook dunking on him during a post-college workout and wondering if that moment ruined his basketball confidence forever.
August 12 · 40 min
Hour 2: Schein Slights Love and Gutey’s O-Line
Hour 2 opens with another round of Packers disrespect after Adam Schein predicts Green Bay will miss the playoffs, finish last in the NFC North, and says Jordan Love is only the 17th-best quarterback in the NFL. Kyle rips the take as a fact-free hit piece, arguing Love’s interception narrative is overblown and that Micah Parsons’ injury absence comes during the softest part of the Packers schedule. Ben pushes back that Love still has more to prove, while also replaying Schein’s past doubts about whether Love can win a championship. The conversation then turns to Brian Gutekunst and the offensive line, with Kyle frustrated that high picks like Jordan Morgan and Anthony Belton are not locked-in starters and that Aaron Banks’ health remains a major concern. The hour closes with Brewers tension as Ben admits he is scoreboard-watching the Cubs, while Kyle says Milwaukee should focus on winning games, holding the NL’s top seed, and proving itself against teams like the Dodgers, Braves and Cubs.
August 12 · 43 min
Hour 3: Kyle’s Golf Bet and Gannon Juice
The 414 Hour opens with Ben and CKatt questioning whether Kyle can honestly claim a green in regulation during an upcoming par-three golf outing, especially after video evidence of his past swing struggles. Kyle insists he can win the bet if he practices, while the guys debate tee-shot rules, video proof and whether he should join Seacat for an early-morning round. Packers talk returns with Brandon Cissé praising Jonathan Gannon as a “psycho” in a good way, which sends Kyle into a full defense of Gannon’s energy, blitz-heavy approach and potential to elevate Green Bay’s defense. Ben pushes back that Gannon still has to prove he is better than Jeff Hafley once real games begin, but Kyle is convinced the Packers’ young defensive linemen and linebackers are already responding. Catastrophic covers a high school football player practicing with a venomous snake in his helmet, CKatt’s gasoline-burned foot, his latte caffeine scare, and the Brewers’ continued runners-in-scoring-position frustration before Ben gets ready to live out his Rain Man dream.
August 12 · 47 min
Hour 1: Love’s Reps and Packers WR Disrespect
Ben and Kyle open Tuesday’s show live from Left’s at the Wisconsin State Fair with Matt LaFleur saying Jordan Love is currently expected to play in the Packers’ preseason opener, though LaFleur reserves the right to change his mind. Kyle wants Love to get at least a series or two, but Ben argues there is not enough to gain with Green Bay’s offensive line still unsettled. The guys then debate whether ESPN ranking the Packers’ wide receiver room 26th in the NFL is disrespectful or realistic. Kyle surprisingly says it is fair because Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Matthew Golden and the rest of the group still have more potential than proven production. They also dive into the cornerback room, with Keisean Nixon getting some second-team reps, Brandon Cissé pushing for a bigger role, and Matt LaFleur making it clear that nothing is being handed out.
August 12 · 40 min
Hour 2: Tausch Worries and Packers Power Slights
Hour 2 begins with a rough edition of Are You Smarter Than Ben Brust, where Ben survives a low-scoring battle thanks to The Great Gatsby, Bounty and Titanic. Mark Tauscher joins after his vacation and says he is legitimately concerned about the Packers offensive line, especially with players moving around, injuries lingering, and the team still trying to identify its best five. Tausch says the cornerback competition feels different because a young player like Brandon Cissé can grow into the job, but the offensive line uncertainty is harder to stomach for a team with big goals. He also pushes back on the Packers wide receiver room being ranked 26th, while saying the group still has to prove it and identifying Christian Watson as the receiver with the highest ceiling. The hour closes with another round of Packers national disrespect after NFL.com ranks Green Bay 13th in its power rankings, leading Ben and Kyle to question how teams like the Cowboys and Bengals landed ahead of the Packers.
August 11 · 42 min
Hour 3: Brewers Bat Worries and Magic Bets
Ben and Kyle turn to the Brewers’ frustrating late-night loss in San Diego. Logan Henderson delivered another quality start and Christian Yelich homered from the seven spot, but the guys worry that Milwaukee’s bats still are not producing enough consistent runs. Kyle says the Brewers’ pitching looks playoff-ready, but the offense remains the biggest concern after the trade deadline passed without adding a true impact bat. The conversation shifts to the Packers being one-point favorites in Week 1 against Minnesota, with both guys saying the offensive line is still the issue most likely to hold Green Bay back. Catastrophic includes a golfer getting struck by lightning, Ben’s “regenerative” read struggles, summer-camp memories, and another magic-phone WNBA best bet before the guys close their State Fair run at Leff’s.

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