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It Turns Out

Kara Miller

"It Turns Out" reveals the hidden realities reshaping our world—from how marriage impacts inequality to the way that the tax code has transformed wealth.

Through conversations with experts who challenge conventional wisdom, award-winning journalist Kara Miller focuses each episode on groundbreaking research, changing how listeners see society, economics, technology, and human behavior. “It Turns Out” delves into data that directly impacts your life—whether you know it or not.

You can reach us at info@itturnsoutshow.com

We gratefully acknowledge the support of the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. This work was done under Grant No. G-2025-79141.

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  • English

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  • S1 · E5
    Dec 20, 2025 · 32 min· Video

    Is healthcare eating the economy?

    Is healthcare eating the US economy? Affordable Care Act architect Jon Gruber explains why healthcare became the issue that keeps employees - and employers - up at night. And how it came to paralyze the government. Why does an MRI cost $1,500 in the US but only a fraction of that in Japan? Why is the idea of "competition" a talking point, not a solution? Gruber also explains why Democrats moved to the right on healthcare, only to see Republicans move further to the right. Plus, hear Gruber’s "magic wand" solution for fixing the broken American system. Gruber co-edited the book Long-Term Care around the World from The University of Chicago Press. Did you know you can also watch the show? Subscribe to the show on YouTube!

  • S1 · E4
    Dec 12, 2025 · 48 min· Video

    Is this how AI mania ends?

    For the last three years, we've been making an enormous bet on AI. It's woven into our investments, our pension funds, even the stability of our economy. But, the bet hasn't paid off yet - and many aren't sure it ever will. AI expert Gary Marcus - who’s been excited about the technology for a long time - explains why society's all-in wager on large language models could be far riskier than we realize. Marcus is author of the book Taming Silicon Valley from MIT Press. MIT Sloan Management Review and Boston Consulting Group recently took a close look at how companies are using agentic AI - one of the most discussed topics in AI right now. Check it out here: sloanreview.mit.edu/ai2025 Did you know you can also watch the show? Subscribe to the show on YouTube!

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