HORSE, FIRST - with Lockie Phillips

Lockie Phillips

Yes, but let's put the horse first! Taking a clear, ethical stance on horsemanship without judgement. We are observant, humble, clear eyed, regulated and deeply respectful of our equine partners.

This podcast is not:
Not human self-help using horses as metaphors
Not romantic liberty training mythology
Not moral superiority
Not training evangelism

This podcast is:

Deep listening
Thoughtful questioning
Slowing down human narratives
Allowing the horse to be the authority

Join Lockie Phillips, the horseman behind Emotional Horsemanship, as we explore the inner world of the horse, the human systems that impact horses and building functional, ethical partnerships with horses where the horse is the authority on correctness. Guests from all around the world plus solo episodes to build connections based on truth telling, community and the joy of the HORSE FIRST way of life.

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#30
September 14 · 30 min
Can We Consent Our Way Out Of Training?
Listening to a horse’s “no” matters, but understanding what that “no” means requires more than a slogan. In this episode, Lockie explores the limits of applying human consent language to horses, the difference between discomfort and harm, and the difficult responsibility of helping horses become more capable without returning to force.
#29
September 4 · 1 hr 5 min
The Horse Is a Trojan Horse (With Author Sophie Strand)
What if our relationship with horses is a Trojan horse into an entirely different relationship with the living world? Writer and ecological thinker Sophie Strand joins Lockie Phillips to explore horses as a doorway into ecology, animism, illness, embodiment, and the strange possibility that loving another species might fundamentally change how we understand our place on Earth.
#28
August 13 · 58 min
Too Much Turn Out? (With Michelle Knapp)
I wrote a post online that went viral, about the issues facing horses living in 24/7 turn out, and my colleague and friend Michelle came on the pod to help me hash out the aftermath.
#27
August 7 · 1 hr 27 min
The Future Isn't Anti-Tradition (With Jillian Kreinbring, M.S.)
In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by horsewoman, educator, and movement specialist Jillian Kreinbring for a thoughtful conversation about the evolution of horsemanship.
#26
July 30 · 36 min
Building Better Horses | Homecoming 4.0 and UK Clinic
I toured the UK for the first time, and I am launching my most important Coaching Program yet!
#25
July 23 · 25 min
The Tap That Stayed With Me (Reading My New Book)
In this special episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips reads a chapter from his forthcoming book exploring the origins of his professional objection to whips.
#24
July 16 · 1 hr 24 min
The End of Horse Ownership as We Know It (with Kim Hallin)
What kind of future are horse people building? And perhaps more importantly, what kind of future are we failing to imagine?
#23
July 9 · 14 min
Life First, Horsemanship Second
But what if the horse isn't expressing a training problem at all? What if they're expressing a living problem?
#22
July 2 · 1 hr 38 min
Clickers, Culture, and Common Ground (With Remy Burley)
In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips sits down with Canadian horse trainer Remy Burley, a specialist in operant conditioning and clicker training.
#21
June 25 · 23 min
The Most Dangerous Thing You Can Teach a Horse
Most horse people assume dangerous horses are disobedient horses. What if the opposite is sometimes true?
#20
June 18 · 1 hr 27 min
The Internship Effect (Cat Roy Stanley)
In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips sits down with horse trainer, high school teacher, equestrian relationship coach, and upcoming UK clinic host Cat Roy Stanley following her two-week live-in internship at the farm.
#19
June 12 · 1 hr 36 min
Mustangs, Mistakes, and Becoming
In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips sits down with horsewoman, mustang owner, former jeweler, and emerging educator Hayley Josephs.
#18
June 11 · 19 min
The Horse World Has a Teaching Problem
The horse world has a major problem with toxic teachers and this is part of the reason that methods have not evolved past violence.
#17
May 30 · 1 hr 16 min
The Higher You Go, The Gentler You Must Become (With Michelle Knapp)
How do we pursue higher levels of skill, precision, and performance without falling back on lower-quality training practices? EH Team member Michelle Knapp and Lockie discuss together.
#16
May 28 · 16 min
Confusion Is Not The Enemy
Confusion is not the enemy of your horses training, it could be a key to ethical results.
#15
May 14 · 12 min
Horse First Is Human First
Focusing on putting the horse first, automatically includes self care and humanity, not excluding it.
#14
May 7 · 1 hr 11 min
The Underground Railroad of Being Horse First (With Lori Halliday)
Lori Halliday and Lockie Phillips discuss how putting horses first has become a clandestine effort, and how this is a good thing for everyone!
#13
April 29 · 23 min
When Discernment Gets Called Judgment
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores the growing tension between clear-eyed discernment and the way it’s often mislabeled as judgment when it challenges harmful norms in horse culture. When people name impact, ask hard questions, or speak up for the horse, discomfort can quickly turn into attempts to silence dissent. This conversation unpacks the difference between moral condemnation and ethical clarity, and why horses depend on humans who are willing to n...
#12
April 24 · 1 hr 7 min
The End of Aesthetic Horsemanship (With Alexa Linton)
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by equine practitioner and The Whole Horse Podcast host, Alexa Linton. This is a conversation about where horsemanship is heading—and what we may need to leave behind to get there. Together, they explore the idea that much of what has been called “progress” in the horse world has remained largely aesthetic. Softer, quieter, better presented—but still operating within the same underlying systems. Alexa offers a grounded...
#11
April 15 · 32 min
When the Tool Takes Up the Room
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips explores how whips, crops, and training sticks can quietly shift the balance of a relationship, sometimes to the point that a horse’s ability to communicate back begins to disappear. Beyond the debate of “good” or “bad,” this is a conversation about proportion, power, and what happens when tools replace listening instead of supporting it. With practical examples and a steady lens on impact, this episode invites us to ask whether...

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