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Business is changing in subtle and seismic ways. Compound Interest from Semafor Business pairs journalists Liz Hoffman and Rohan Goswami with operators, experts, and innovators behind the world’s most consequential companies, decoding why big parts of the economy work the way they do.

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This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.


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  • August 14 · 59 min

    Warner Music Group CEO Robert Kyncl on AI, streaming power, and why music royalties are the safest asset on Wall Street

    Note: Liz joined Semafor media editor Max Tani on this week's episode of Mixed Signals from Semafor Media. You can listen to more Mixed Signals here. Warner Music Group CEO Robert Kyncl joins Mixed Signals to explain what a record label actually does in a world where anyone can upload a song to Spotify. Max and Liz ask Robert why Warner struck a deal with AI music company Suno while Sony and Universal are still suing it, how he thinks about the nuclear-weapons-style leverage labels hold over streaming platforms, and why he thinks Netflix is leaving a massive opportunity on the table by ignoring music.

  • July 21 · 36 min

    Is Walmart backing America’s next financial super-app?

    America’s biggest retailer is quietly getting into banking. After trying and failing to crack financial services a few times, is back at it with OnePay, which has 7 million customers, $50 billion in annual payment flow — and virtually zero in acquisition costs. Piggybacking on Walmart’s 1.5 million employees and 150 million customers, it thinks it can succeed where other fintechs have floundered. Liz and Rohan talk to CEO Omer Ismail to find out whether the big box titan can really compete with the big banks.

  • July 15 · 41 min

    AI is coming for lawyers. Are they ready?

    Big law firms have run the same playbook for 50 years: hire armies of young lawyers, bill their hours at steep rates, and funnel the money up to the partners. AI is about to upend that model. It can already do much of the grunt work that associates cut their teeth on and is coming for the sacred cow of Big Law — the billable hour. This week on Compound Interest, Liz and Rohan sit down with Rachel Proffitt, partner and CEO of the Silicon Valley-based Cooley, to talk about what the rainmakers of the future look like, the rise of AI-native law firms, and the paranoia sweeping the industry. Sign up to get the Semafor Business briefing in your inbox. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • July 7 · 47 min

    Is the World Cup a raw deal for host cities? FIFA’s New York frontman disagrees.

    The World Cup prints money — an estimated $10 billion this year. FIFA keeps almost all of it. The business case for the host cities shouldering much of the costs, however, isn’t so clear. New York-New Jersey Host Committee CEO Alex Lasry joins Liz and Rohan this week to break down what’s really in it for New York (and, ahem, New Jersey), why he thinks you can’t put a price on the opportunity, and the hypothetical logistical nightmare that keeps him up at night. He also reflects on his family’s time owning the Milwaukee Bucks to make the case for public funding of stadiums, and argues that more sports owners should prioritize the fan experience over the bottom line. Sign up to get the Semafor Business briefing in your inbox. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter. Image Credit: Reuters/Kai Pfaffenbach/Shannon Stapleton/Bob Donnan-Imagn Images

  • June 30 · 54 min

    Silicon Valley’s go-to fixer on AI’s unfixable problem

    One of Silicon Valley’s top political fixers, Bradley Tusk, built a career helping startups like Uber and FanDuel brawl their way to legitimacy — in his words, “legalize disruptive sh*t.” His message to AI companies: You have no idea what’s coming. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. This episode is commercial content produced by Semafor Global Studio with Amazon Business.

  • June 23 · 57 min

    Wall Street fell in love with your life insurance. Should you be worried?

    Anant Bhalla had a front-row seat to Wall Street's takeover of the life insurance industry, which turned a sleepy corner of American finance into a multitrillion-dollar investment engine. Now, even he’s worried it’s gone too far. He talks to Liz and Rohan about “zombie” insurers, ratings shopping, and where the next big blowup will happen. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • June 16 · 29 min

    How Amazon Business made business buying smart by rebuilding its consumer platform for companies

    In this special episode of Compound Interest, Semafor’s Chief Commercial Officer Rachel Oppenheim sits down with Todd Heimes, Vice President and General Manager at our season sponsor, Amazon Business. Todd and Rachel sit down to discuss how Amazon Business is reshaping how organizations buy. Heimes has been scaling Amazon since he started there in 1999, and has been growing Amazon Business since it started in 2016. His goal is to help organizations of all sizes save time and money by making business buying smarter, easier, and more strategic. Heimes discusses how the solution cuts the friction of age-old systems through immense selection, fast delivery, and a foundation built on customer obsession and earned trust. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. This episode is commercial content produced by Semafor Global Studio with Amazon Business.

  • June 9 · 47 min

    Klarna’s Sebastian Siemiatkowski on agentic commerce, credit cards, and financing everything

    Klarna, best known as a buy now, pay later giant, came of age during the e-commerce boom. But as AI takes over everything, including our shopping, Liz and Rohan ask Sebastian about what an agentic commerce future means for his business, if Klarna will eventually become a bank, the truth about his AI customer service experiment, whether people should really be financing their DoorDash orders, and much more. Sign up to get the Semafor Business briefing in your inbox. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • June 2 · 48 min

    Anthony Pompliano thinks you're smarter than your financial advisor

    Bitcoin evangelist Anthony Pompliano has reinvented himself as the champion of a new kind of investor: digitally native, high-net-worth, and deeply skeptical of Wall Street expertise. He joins Liz and Rohan to talk about his AI-powered CFO product, why he thinks independent investors outperform the pros, what's left in crypto worth caring about, and the uncomfortable politics of the Trump family's meme coin. Sign up to get the Semafor Business briefing in your inbox. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • May 26 · 41 min

    Vail CEO Rob Katz knows what you think of his business — and he thinks he can fix it

    If you ski or snowboard, you probably have an opinion of Rob Katz’s business. The Vail Resorts CEO joins Liz and Rohan on Compound Interest to talk about the criticisms of crowding, lift lines, and pricing of the season pass that changed winter sports forever. Katz also explains why the company doesn’t hedge weather, how the industry’s high-end clientele complicates customer relations, why he isn’t hearing Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince’s bid to buy Park City, and the impacts of climate change on his business. Sign up to get the Semafor Business briefing in your inbox. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • May 19 · 44 min

    Joe Weisenthal on the business of business media and why AI won’t replace podcasters

    Bloomberg’s Odd Lots podcast has been at the forefront of a new kind of business media for more than a decade. Co-host Joe Weisenthal joins Liz and Semafor editor-in-chief Ben Smith to talk about how the business of business media has evolved throughout his career and how he and Tracy Alloway approach making a podcast that gets into the weeds of supply chains for an audience that ranges from high schoolers to Wall Street executives. They also talk about why the website formerly known as Twitter is still the place to be for finance and tech watchers — but why Substack’s drive to monetize expert amateurism has made it worse — and why he’s optimistic that the age of AI may actually be good for journalism … or at least podcasts. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • May 13 · 1 hr

    Who wants to own big law?

    Chris Bogart spent years at Cravath before building Burford Capital into the world's largest litigation finance firm — turning lawsuits into investible assets. Liz and Rohan dig into the financialization of corporate fights, Burford’s $16 billion beef with Argentina, and what it would take to finally let private equity buy a piece of Big Law. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • May 5 · 44 min

    Wonder’s Marc Lore on vibe-coding restaurants, drone delivery, and his third act as the IPO guy

    Marc Lore built Diapers.com, sold it to Amazon. Built Jet.com, sold it to Walmart. Now he’s trying something different: taking Wonder — his vertically integrated food-delivery startup — all the way to a public offering. Semafor Deputy Editor-in-Chief Shelly Banjo joins Liz to dig into how he’s betting that robots, influencers, and AI-directed meal plans can finally crack the code on profitable food delivery, what e-commerce taught him about attacking fat margins with automation, and why he’s also quietly searching for desert land to build a city from scratch. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter. Image: Reuters/Mike Blake

  • April 28 · 52 min

    Mark Cuban on his pharma fight, Dallas Mavs regrets, and the PE-ification of sports

    Mark Cuban is on a mission to rid the US health care system of the middlemen he blames for soaring costs. Liz and Rohan dive into his approach with Cost Plus Drugs, which aims to disrupt the little-known middlemen driving up prescription drug prices. He also discussed soaring valuations in sports, his own regrets around the Dallas Mavericks sale, and offers a surprising assessment of TrumpRX. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter. Photo Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-Imagn Images

  • April 21 · 40 min

    Cloning woolly mammoths is cool. Can it be profitable?

    Colossal, the biotech startup working on de-extincting the woolly mammoth and the dodo, thinks it can make trillions of dollars — almost none of it from consumer-facing products. Liz and Rohan dive into it all with CEO Ben Lamm, who has already spun out four businesses as he’s built the bioscience business with a focus on serving governments and nations looking to build drought-resistant plants, plastic-munching microbes, and much more (some of it classified!) This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • April 14 · 42 min

    America’s best energy trader on fixing higher ed and the dangers of prediction markets

    John Arnold — one of the greatest energy traders of his generation — turned his sights on philanthropy nearly two decades ago, applying the same ROI-driven focus that made him billions to charitable giving. He walks Liz and Rohan through his vision for fixing higher ed, the problem with sports betting and prediction markets, and the Trump-driven chaos in the energy markets. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • April 7 · 40 min

    Why Oura’s CEO is embracing Washington regulation

    Oura, whose rings are the favored accessory of finance bros and Silicon Valley longevity-maxxers, is doing something unusual in tech: Running toward a heavily regulated market. CEO Tom Hale explains why the company’s future is in the clinical world, plus what he thinks wins the wearables war and what it’s like doing business with the Pentagon right now. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • March 31 · 43 min

    Can tiny homes — and tiny-home mortgages — solve the housing crisis?

    America needs millions more homes. Private-equity firms, red-tape nightmares, and homebuilders’ profit motive are all to blame. One startup, an offshoot from Airbnb, has a solution: fully-built, crane-plopped tiny homes in your backyard. Liz and Rohan dive into how Samara is trying to redefine what housing looks like, and whether it’s the start of a new asset class for Wall Street. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • March 24 · 56 min

    Why KKR wants your, yes your, money

    Private equity and private credit was long a perk for the rich and well-connected. But now Wall Street’s investment giants are pitching their products to everyday Americans, who have piled in — and are now piling out in a panic. Is this democratizing finance or a recipe for disaster? Liz and Rohan dive into that and much more with Alisa Wood, the KKR executive leading their retail charge. This season of Compound Interest is in partnership with Amazon Business. Amazon Business is a trusted partner that transforms business buying by combining Amazon's vast selection, competitive pricing, and fast delivery with added tools and insights to help businesses simplify purchasing, manage spend, and buy smarter.

  • March 17 · 56 min

    The investor behind a16z’s America First push on dealing with the Pentagon ‘where bits meet atoms’

    David Ulevitch leads Andreessen Horowitz’s American Dynamism fund, a $1.776 billion pot dedicated to defense, energy, public safety, and other national priorities. We talked about whether those industries deserve their conservative coding, why venture capital — with its roots in capital-light code — has a right to win in heavy industry, and why he doesn’t want the “moral liability” of deciding how the Pentagon uses the weapons Silicon Valley is building. Sign up to get Semafor Business in your inbox. Compound Interest from Semafor Business is supported by Amazon Business.

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