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Catching Foxes

Luke and Gomer

Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!

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  • Tuesday · 1 hr 21 min

    Can a Machine Convert You?

    Luke and Gomer are back after a recording break, and Luke opens by admitting he left the gas running for fifteen minutes. Gomer has been using AI to research female reproductive health ahead of an NFP episode, and Luke is not having it. The argument ends up on whether a Catholic AI app can actually bring someone into the Church, and Gomer lands somewhere Luke didn’t expect. In This Episode: How researchers are using AI to dig through thousands of studies that never reach the top journals, and the wheat-allergy drug trial it turned up for Gomer’s daughter that none of her allergists had mentioned Why Marshall McLuhan said a new medium changes people regardless of what’s on it, and what that means for parents who hand a kid a screen to calm them down Gomer’s three weeks of AI brain fog, and the daily handwriting habit that got him out Luke calls AI-generated church art borderline sinful Gomer argues that a video series or an app can deliver content, but conversion needs the local parish Resources Mentioned: That Man Is You (Paradisus Dei): https://paradisusdei.org/for-men Catching Foxes on Substack: https://catchingfoxes.substack.com/ Inter Mirifica: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/pccs/documents/rc_pc_pccs_doc_04121963_inter-mirifica_en.html Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/297276/amusing-ourselves-to-death-by-postman-neil/9780143036531 The Art of Manliness: The New Dark Ages with James Marriott: https://www.artofmanliness.com/culture/books/podcast-1139-the-new-dark-ages-the-death-of-reading-and-the-dawn-of-the-post-literate-society/ Chapters: 00:00: Gas Leaks and Dreamlight Valley 04:47: Prepping for NFP With AI Research 06:49: AI and the Studies Nobody Reads 13:39: What Is AI Doing to Us? 15:31: Inter Mirifica and the Medium Is the Message 20:33: Handing Kids a Screen 26:29: Three Weeks of AI Brain Fog 32:47: AI Art in the Church 41:08: Can a Machine Convert Someone? 43:46: Content vs. Context 01:03:57: McLuhan’s Warning to Maritain 01:15:03: A Birthday Message for Jackie Produced by Saint Kolbe Studios: https://saintkolbestudios.com/ Support Catching Foxes

  • September 15 · 58 min

    David Goggins is Gomer's Therapist

    Does Gomer need therapy? Probably. At least, that's Luke's read. Until Gomer sees a professional, David Goggins is his stand-in therapist. It's going alright.

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  • September 1 · 1 hr 15 min

    Rethinking How We Apply the Church's Teaching on Birth Control

    Luke brings up a topic he has been nervous to raise: does the way American Catholics apply the Church's teaching on birth control account for what happens to a person's freedom under real constraint? It's a good conversation, it's not heterodox (we promise).

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  • July 21 · 1 hr 43 min

    Requiescat in Pace, Donald Gormley

    Luke and Gomer talk about the passing of Gomer's father, but the episode isn't all doom and gloom (just the appropriate amount). Also included this week: an attempted murder, gray-market drugs, and a review of The Odyssey.

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  • May 26 · 1 hr 5 min

    The Do-Over Myth: What Getting Older Really Costs You

    Gomer's dad is out of the hospital and in a care home and this episode starts there, in the territory of walking a parent toward the end of his life. Luke and Gomer work through the lessons Gomer has picked up in the trenches: what hospitals won't tell you, how to have the DNR conversation, and why AI has become an unlikely companion through all of it.

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  • May 12 · 1 hr 17 min

    Not Dead! Family Crises, AI Converts, and Things Worth Being Angry About

    After a two-month hiatus, Luke and Gomer are back. This episode opens with a conversation about Gomer's father Don's ongoing health decline, the emotional and logistical chaos of elder care, and the conversations no one prepares you to have. From there, the fellas pivot to AI, the World Cup, Hollywood Botox, and the slow enshitification of everything.

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  • Dec 24, 2025 · 1 hr 27 min

    Into the Darkness has Come a Great Light

    This is a heavy one. Heavy in a good way, but heavy all the same. Lots of unpacking trauma, both from childhood and Gomer's recent bathroom renovation.

  • Aug 5, 2025 · 1 hr 35 min

    AI Can't Help You Contemplate the Good Life

    AI has plenty of potential upsides. Helping you think more deeply about life isn't one of them. Also, there's a lengthy discussion about sex with robots towards the end. Listener discretion advised.

  • Jul 24, 2025 · 1 hr 7 min

    Do We Live in Reality? Can We?

    Can we know what reality is? Not in some college freshman philosophy major existentialism way, but in how we see the world? Are reproductions of things real versions of the original?

  • Jul 8, 2025 · 1 hr 10 min

    Is Using AI a Mortal Sin?

    The usage of AI has moral implications, but what are they? Can we use it without losing our souls? Should we all just be listening to Bob Dylan and avoiding AI-generated music?

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