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Cafeteria Christian

Natalia Terfa, Emmy Kegler

Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity.

Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist.

Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like and leave the rest.

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  • Monday · 53 min

    #371 Fair Game - part 2, with Ellie Roscher

    Natalia welcomes back author Ellie Roscher to talk about trans athletes in sports and how the conversation has already changed in the short 6 months since her book came out. Book Ellie's Website Previous Ellie CC Episodes (SO MANY, but here are a few): Tiny Things The Embodied Path The Body Stories Embodiment as a Spiritual Practice Search Ellie Roscher Cafeteria Christian in apple podcasts to find a whole list!

  • August 17 · 1 hr 7 min

    #370 If Make It Make Sense Were a Person - with Janice Lagata

    Natalia welcomes back longtime friend of the pod Janice Lagata for a fiery talk about social capitalism, exvangelicalism, and what it means when we do things for appearances instead of just doing them for real. Patreon Connect with Janice: instagram www.janicelagata.com

  • August 10 · 1 hr

    #369 Enneagram and Faith with Holly Johnson

    Natalia welcomes Pastor Holly Johnson to help answer a listener question about the enneagram and how it is connected (or can be connected) to faith. Enneagram Made Easy, by Elizabeth Wagele and Renee Baron The Enneagram, by Helen Palmer Patreon

  • June 29 · 1 hr 2 min

    #368 It All Counts - with Natalia Terfa

    We welcome back Ellie Roscher to host and celebrate Natalia's new book: It All Counts: Finding God Everywhere They Told You Not To Look. It's out July 21, preorders are available now. Link for autographed copies Patreon

  • June 22 · 59 min

    #367 A Grab Bag of Topics

    Emmy and Natalia get to a bunch of listener requests/questions/topics that are not one episode on their own, but together make a wide-ranging and varied episode of your adhd dreams. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • June 15 · 1 hr 4 min

    #366 iSn'T pRiDe A sIn

    Emmy and Natalia celebrate PRIDE! But isn't pride a sin? No guys. Not this kind. We promise. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • June 8 · 1 hr 7 min

    #365 What Are Sacraments Anyway?

    Emmy and Natalia talk about the sacraments, why we have them, and why they still matter. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • June 1 · 1 hr 1 min

    #364 Rupture and Repair

    Emmy and Natalia talk about repair and why it matters in relationships, maybe now more than ever. Rupture and Repair slidedeck (that was the basis of this conversation) Support us on Patreon

  • May 18 · 59 min

    #363 The Church's Weird Week

    Natalia and Emmy talk about the 10 days between Ascension and Pentecost, and what they mean and what we're supposed to do with these lesser holy days. Become a Patreon Meredith Anne Miller's VBS post Natalia's Ascension Uplift

  • May 11 · 55 min

    #362 A God of War? With Dr Michael Chan

    Emmy and Natalia welcome back friend of God friend of the pod Dr Michael Chan to talk about what we are supposed to think and do when God is invoked to justify violence and war. Not for any current applications or anything just, you know, because. Dr Chan's recommended reading: Facing the Abusing God by David Blumenthal Robert Jensen's commentary on Ezekiel Luther's Left-handed Kingdom Patreon

  • May 4 · 1 hr 5 min

    #361 I Want to Have a Different Conversation About AI

    Gird your loins as Natalia brings forward a CONTROVERSIAL take (for Emmy) about AI. Is it possible to have a nuanced conversation about something so polarizing? Church Anew Blog AOC Video Referenced Support Us on Patreon

  • April 27 · 1 hr 3 min

    #360 Not All These Stories Are Fun

    Emmy and Natalia talk about what to do with complicated or difficult or horrible stories in the Bible and if we can really, truly, set them aside and still be faithful? Patreon Article we reference

  • April 20 · 54 min

    #359 Are We… Catholic now?

    Emmy and Natalia talk about Pope Leo and how his message of peace is compelling but actually not that new and also what that means for those of us who may be wondering if agreeing with the Pope so much makes us Catholic. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • April 13 · 1 hr 2 min

    #358 That's NOT God

    Emmy and Natalia talk about Artemis II and Pete Hegseth and while neither of those are Jesus, one of them is definitely closer. Article Links: God Deserves All the Glory - Arthur Holquin Artemis II Is Competency... - Liz Plank Pete Hegseth's Holy War - Julia Carrie Wong Patreon

  • March 30 · 1 hr 7 min

    #357 Does Easter Pass the Vibe Check? With Laura Fanucci

    Natalia welcomes author and speaker Laura Fanucci to the pod to talk about Easter and Holy Week and why we shouldn't let our culture define this day and season with candy and plastic when it's so much better. Become a Patreon and support us! Find/follow Laura: www.laurakellyfanucci.com, Instagram, & motheringspirit.com Laura's new book: Living Easter Aaron's substack about moral injury and holy week

  • March 23 · 52 min

    #356 You Can't Pray Away the Anything

    Emmy and Natalia talk about healing and miracles and medicine and why none of them are mutually exclusive and also why this let-Jesus-take-the-wheel way of doing healthcare is not faithful but harmful. Patreon Sawbones

  • March 16 · 1 hr 5 min

    #355 Jesus Never Said "Can't We All Just Get Along"

    Emmy and Natalia tackle a listener question about a parent breakup, boundaries, and a theological question about whether or not God makes all things good. (spoiler: no) www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • March 9 · 1 hr 12 min

    #354 Grab Bag and Bible Translations

    Emmy and Natalia talk about what's happening in the world, in Minneapolis, and then answer a listener question about Bible Translations and why there are so many and how we are supposed to even know which ones are good or not good? www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

  • March 2 · 1 hr 11 min

    #353 In All Things… Nuance.

    Emmy and Natalia talk about a listener's request for advice on leaving a church, and it leads to a deeper discussion about Two Kingdom Theology, all of which may or may not have required Emmy to put on her nuance hat a whole bunch of times. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian Rent relief in MN

  • February 23 · 1 hr 4 min

    #352 "The Files"

    Emmy and Natalia talk a little bit about "The Files" - and what it means for us as people of faith that this kind of evil exists in the world, and what we do about the fact that justice seems so slow in coming. Content Note: This episode references child sexual abuse (no graphic detail) Housing Fund for MN Natalia on PP! Rev Aaron Fuller on Cafeteria Christian | (spotify link) Support us on Patreon

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