Between Sundays™

Grace Church

Church services mostly happen on the weekends. And that's all well and good but we spend most of our time between Sundays. Welcome to a podcast for normal people by normal people that dives into conversations and stories happening in and around Grace Church. 3 staff members host this weekly podcast and process weekend sermons, interview interesting people, and shoot the proverbial breeze every week. This is Between Sundays™!

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#328
Tuesday · 1 hr 8 min
Even If He Doesn’t: Faith in the Fire
Would you still trust God if He didn’t rescue you from the fire?In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Jeff continue the “Faithful in a Foreign Land” series with Daniel 3 and the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Maron shares how creating a life map revealed God’s quiet preparation and faithfulness through both the good and hard seasons of her life, and how God had been forming these three young men long before they faced the furnace. We discuss why Daniel and his friends suffered exile for their nation’s corporate sin despite their own faithfulness, and why jealous Babylonian co-workers targeted them. Tyler raises the Prayer of Azariah, a lament found in Catholic and Orthodox Bibles, and we explore why it isn’t in our canon and where Scripture gives us lament instead. We unpack the powerful words “even if He doesn’t” and how true surrender to a sovereign God strips earthly powers of their control. We notice that the only thing the fire burned was the ropes that bound them, and share personal stories of how seasons in the furnace burned away false identities, illusions, and the need for control. Finally, we consider the fourth man in the fire and why the presence of God with us is the story of all Scripture. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 18:12 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#327
October 15 · 1 hr 13 min
Influence, Platform, or Entertainment?
Are you trying to influence people for Jesus, or just trying to build a platform? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Milton continue the “Faithful in a Foreign Land” series in Daniel 2, exploring what it means to be influencers in a foreign land who point to Jesus instead of ourselves. We discuss why part of Daniel was written in Aramaic, the common language of Babylon, and why Daniel chose to stay and serve a king who was losing his mind. We wrestle with how to discern when God calls us to stay and when He calls us to go, and how Daniel’s response of curiosity, asking for time, and prayer models a better way to handle feeling threatened. We explore how the same Babylon that destroyed Jerusalem also produced knowledge God called a gift, and why all truth is God’s truth. We unpack the difference between influence, platform, and entertainment, and ask whether we’ve turned God’s message into our own entertainment. Drawing from Psalm 137 and Ezekiel 33, we consider why the church struggles to lament and what we lose when we skip ahead to the celebration. Tyler gets honest about measuring this podcast’s influence by its numbers, and Milton reminds us that our job is obedience while God is responsible for the outcome. Timestamps: 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 18:27 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#326
October 7 · 1 hr 1 min
Living as Exiles: Faith in a Foreign Land
How do you stay faithful in a culture that keeps asking you to blend in? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off the "Daniel" series, exploring what it means to live as exiles in a land that isn't our home. Drawing from Daniel 1, we discuss why Daniel and his friends served the Babylonian king, learned his language, and even accepted new names, yet drew a firm line at eating from the king's table. We unpack the ancient practice of royal hostages and Jeremiah 29's surprising call to seek the peace and prosperity of Babylon. We explore why the book opens by saying "the Lord gave" Judah into Nebuchadnezzar's hand, and what that means for anyone who feels their circumstances are beyond God's reach. We wrestle with an honest question: what happens when you sacrifice for your faith and the reward doesn't come quickly? We trace the pattern of Joseph, Moses, and Daniel being placed inside foreign empires with a mission, and discover how identity, prayer, and devotion gave Daniel the strength to remain distinct while serving faithfully. Finally, we consider a third way for Christians today, refusing both full assimilation and complete withdrawal, so we can serve our neighbors while keeping Christ above all. Timestamps: 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:59 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#325
September 23 · 1 hr 19 min
You Can't Parent Alone
What happens to the picture you had for your kids when they grow into someone completely different? In this episode Tyler, Tim, Amy, and Maron wrap up the "Parenting" series with a roundtable conversation drawn from every stage of parenting: young kids, teenagers, adult children, and aging parents. Tim opens up about a year of injuries and how 51 years of marriage prepared him and Jennifer to care for each other. We talk about turning into our parents and what we chose to carry forward or leave behind. We explore the moment kids begin slipping out of your control, the fears that linger even when kids are grown, and why the future you pictured for your children may not be the one God has for them. We discuss why every child needs to be parented differently, and why no parent should try to do it alone. Tim shares a powerful story about the adults who stood by him as a teenager during a church split, a picture of what a village can mean for generations. Finally, we reflect on how watching our own parents age changes the way we prepare our kids for the future. Timestamps: 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 12:35 Transition to Parenting Roundtable Discussion
#324
September 10 · 1 hr 11 min
The Village Your Teenager Needs More Than Your Control
What if your teenager's faith depends more on five other adults than it does on your parenting? In this episode Maron teaches on parenting teenagers, sharing research that shows teenagers are far more likely to maintain faith into adulthood when they have five mentors beyond their parents invested in their lives. We explore why you can have either control or growth with teenagers, but not both. Maron shares honest stories about parenting out of generational fear and learning to build a village instead of a fortress. We discover how Paul subverts the authoritarian father-of-the-household system by calling parents to lead like Christ: with tenderness, vulnerability, and example. We discuss how open communication builds trust during teenage years, and why training a teenager in the way of the Lord is less about lecturing and more about living it visibly so they see a parent genuinely trying to be more like Christ every day. 00:08 Welcome to Between Sundays 12:24 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#323
September 3 · 1 hr 8 min
Clothing Yourself With Christ as a Parent
What does it mean to model Christ better than you instruct your children? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off the "Parenting" series, exploring the foundation that matters more than any technique. Drawing from Colossians 3, the hosts emphasize that identity in Christ comes before instruction—and your own faith journey is the load-bearing wall of parenting. We discuss why modern parenting techniques (from attachment parenting to free-range parenting) matter far less than becoming someone your kids can actually see living out Christ's character. We explore Paul's metaphor of "clothing yourself" with virtues like patience and compassion, and wrestle with whether that feels like wearing a costume or if it becomes natural over time through practice. We also reexamine Proverbs 22:6 ("train up a child")—not as a formula guaranteeing outcomes, but as an invitation to model the way your children should go. Finally, we discover that your role isn't to control your child's faith or identity, but to sow seeds of character and devotion to Christ, trusting that the Spirit is at work in both you and them. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 18:47 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#322
August 26 · 1 hr 8 min
Gratitude Without Answers
How do we practice gratitude when our circumstances haven't changed and pain is still unresolved? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry wrap up the "Remember" series on Psalm 107, exploring why gratitude must be practiced as a discipline, not just a feeling. We discover how the psalm shifts from past-tense rescue stories to present-tense descriptions of God's character, anchoring our thanksgiving in God's unfailing love (khesed) rather than our circumstances. We explore the power of corporate gratitude—how hearing others' stories of faith helps us maintain a posture of thankfulness during our own unresolved storms. We also analyze the difference between redemption and rescue, and what redemption looks like for those in power. Finally, we reflect on the year's recurring theme: God's abiding presence and loyal love. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:57 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#321
August 19 · 1 hr 13 min
Why God Allows Suffering: Wrestling With Psalm 107
When disaster strikes, do we ask why or do we ask who? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry tackle the fourth story in Psalm 107 about sailors in a storm, amid the context of the historic flooding devastating central Indiana. We explore why ancient people feared the sea as chaos, wrestle with whether God causes or allows suffering, and discover the critical shift from asking "why is this happening?" to asking "who is with me in it?" We discuss how our modern, individualistic worldview shapes our questions about suffering, explore what unfailing love (hesed) means when paired with testing, and discover practical ways to represent Christ's compassion to our neighbors—bringing help rather than explanations. Finally, we anchor everything in the hope of new creation, where all suffering will be redeemed and remade into something beautiful. 00:08 Welcome to Between Sundays 08:41 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#320
August 13 · 1 hr 4 min
Gratitude for Redemption from Your Mistakes
What does gratitude look like when you're redeemed from your own mistakes? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into week two of the "Remember" series with Maron's sermon on Psalm 107. We explore the psychological concept of benefit appraisal—gratitude through comparison—and how looking back at where God has brought us builds resilience. Maron focuses on the prisoners and fools in Psalm 107, people suffering from their own choices, and how God rescues them with the same unfailing love as those suffering from circumstances. We unpack the shepherd's imagery: the rod protecting us from external enemies (shame, despair, depression) and the hook gently retrieving us when we wander into our own prisons. Finally, we discuss how sharing our redemption stories in vulnerable community strengthens faith across generations. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 09:30 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#319
August 6 · 1 hr 8 min
What to Do When You're in the Wilderness
What if gratitude literally rewires your brain away from anxiety and toward trust in God? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry launch the new four-week "Remember" series based on Psalm 107, exploring how practicing gratitude transforms us. We dive into the neuroscience of neuroplasticity and how our brains change based on our thoughts and habits. We look at the first story in Psalm 107 about wanderers in the wilderness, exploring why gratitude for God's character matters more than gratitude for our circumstances. We wrestle with hard questions: how can we be grateful when facing depression, chronic pain, or suffering? And we discover why sharing our gratitude in community builds collective faith and hope. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 17:20 Transition to Sermon Discussion
July 30 · 7 min
How Gratitude Rewires Your Brain | Series Setup
How can practicing gratitude rewire our brains away from anxiety and toward trust in God? In this solo episode, Barry previews the upcoming gratitude series based on Psalm 107. We explore the neuroscience of how our brains are shaped by our habits and thoughts, and why practicing gratitude is like exercise for our faith. We dive into four scenarios in Psalm 107 where God delivers people in different circumstances—wanderers, prisoners, the sick, and sailors—and how sharing these stories in community builds collective trust and counteracts the anxiety-inducing narratives of social media and doom-scrolling. Head into Sunday prepared by reading Psalm 107 and reflecting on where God has shown up in your life.
#318
July 1 · 1 hr 12 min
Is Baptism Just a Symbol?
What if we hold baptism practice loosely but baptism theology tightly? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry unpack the history, theology, and practice of baptism. We explore why Christians baptize once while Jewish mikvah required repeated washing, what Jesus' baptism actually meant, and the difference between infant and adult baptism. Barry digs into whether baptism is merely symbolic or something more transformative, connecting it to Old Testament concepts like the Red Sea and exploring debates about baptism for the dead. We wrestle with questions like: can you be a Christian without baptism? What does it mean if someone is baptized but later rejects faith? And what's the significance of someone choosing baptism at age nine? 00:00 Welcome to Between Sundays 11:54 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#317
June 24 · 1 hr 1 min
Is Power Evil?
Is power evil, or is it how we use it that matters? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive deep into power and dominion from Genesis to Revelation. We unpack the difference between dominion and stewardship, explore how Jesus demonstrates self-giving love as the model for power, and wrestle with how the church historically aligned with empires instead of following Jesus's teachings. We also address listener questions about Jesus as a warrior in Revelation, when force is justified, and the painful reality of power abuse. Each host shares their personal relationship with power, control, and surrender. 00:09 Welcome to Between Sundays 10:38 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#316
June 16 · 1 hr 2 min
Why Do We Crave Beauty?
Why do our souls crave beauty, and what is it pointing us toward? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into beauty from the "What If It's True?" series. We explore why humans yearn for beauty, trace beauty from the Garden of Eden to the tabernacle to Jesus as the new creation, and wrestle with the evolutionary vs. theological explanations for why we appreciate beauty. We discuss counterfeit beauty as an idol, how transcendent moments of beauty lift us from our lowest points, the need for sacred spaces, and practical ways to pursue beauty through intentional walks, art, food, and nature. We also explore why Jesus is called "the Word" in John's Gospel and what it means that believers are mobile temples. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 15:49 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#315
June 10 · 1 hr 9 min
What Is True Freedom?
What is the difference between believing in Jesus and actually living as His disciple? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry sit down with guest Amy Christie to unpack her sermon on freedom from John 8. We dig into why true freedom isn't doing whatever you want but rather abiding in Jesus. We explore the difference between being a believer and being a disciple, why sin is like a powerful current rather than just a bad habit, and how community and accountability help us walk in freedom. We also wrestle with whether the church has lost the plot on sin, the power of confession and bringing sin into the light, and why freedom is a lifelong journey of sanctification. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:05 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#314
June 3 · 1 hr 1 min
Is Jesus a Bouncer or a Savior?
What if "I am the way, the truth, and the life" means something completely different than we thought? In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron dive into week five of "What If It's True?" exploring truth. Barry unpacks John 14:6, flipping the script on how we often read it. Jesus isn't a bouncer keeping people out but rather the one who left the mansion to find us in the wasteland. We bust the "mansion in the sky" myth, explore God deepfakes and misconceptions about God's character, connect Isaiah 59 to today's world, and discover that truth is a relational person, not just an idea. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:43 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#313
May 27 · 1 hr 3 min
Humans Are Wired for Spirituality
What if humans are biologically wired for spirituality, and what does Jesus offer at the well? In this episode Barry, Tyler, Maron, and guest Dave unpack his sermon on John 4 and Jesus and the woman at the well. We explore the fascinating idea that humans are biologically wired for transcendent spiritual experiences, discuss the nine universal questions every human asks, and dive deep into what Jesus meant by "living water" (Zao). We also explore the Jerusalem vs. Mount Gerizim debate, use the left brain vs. right brain framework to understand faith, and discover how Jesus models respectful, humble conversation. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:44 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#312
May 20 · 53 min
My Kingdom Is Not of This World
What if our longing for justice points to a kingdom not of this world? In this episode Tyler, Maron, and guest Marin dive into week three of "What If It's True?" exploring our human longing for justice. We unpack what Jesus meant by "my kingdom is not of this world," discuss why injustice still persists if Jesus came to heal it, and explore Pilate's question "What is truth?" 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 15:16 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#311
May 13 · 1 hr 8 min
The Love We're Searching For
What if Jesus is both the love we're searching for and the love actively searching for us? In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron dive into week two of "What If It's True?" exploring our deepest human longing: love. Maron unpacks her Mother's Day sermon on how Jesus washed his disciples' feet, including Judas, as a stunning example of radical, upside-down grace. We get real about why receiving love is harder than giving it, explore what it means that we're all "born looking for someone looking for us," and discuss how Christians often distort Jesus's image. 00:07 Welcome 18:23 Transition to Sermon Discussion
#310
May 6 · 1 hr 2 min
What If Our Deepest Longings Are True?
What if our deepest human longings point us to something true about God? In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron kick off an eight-week series "What If It's True?" exploring seven universal human longings like justice, love, and freedom. We dive into John 3:16 deeper than you've ever heard it, to unpack the story of Nicodemus, and explore why saying "I could be wrong" in faith conversations is a great posture to have. 00:07 Welcome to Between Sundays 13:46 Transition to Sermon Discussion 📍 gracechurch.us 📱 @GraceChurchIN on Instagram and Facebook

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