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Today · 17 min
Luxury's Slump: Can Designers Save Fashion? (with Eugene Rabkin) [TEASER]
Third-quarter earnings are in, and luxury's slump isn't letting up. Kering and LVMH were down, Hermès grew but missed expectations, and Chanel seems like just about the only house that's winning. Amy brings back StyleZeitgeist founder Eugene Rabkin, author of Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism, to ask what's driving the downturn and whether designers can save it. The rest of the conversation, on the Paris protests, Chanelmania, whether the Birkin is over, and Anna Wintour chasing tech money, is for Back Row Premium subscribers. Sign up at backrow.net/subscribe to get newsletter access included with your subscription. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:45 The Great Reset, one year in 07:30 Is McQueen headed for the mall? 09:45 Gucci's wholesale crutch 13:45 LVMH misses & Arnault slips 16:15 Is Dior really "gaining traction"? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism: https://link.amazon/B07R1S4K7 Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Eugene: @eugenerabkin Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Monday · 49 min
Working for Anna Wintour & How Vogue Really Picks Its Cover Stars (with Jill Demling)
Jill Demling started as Anna Wintour's assistant in 1998, around the same time as Lauren Weisberger, who went on to write The Devil Wears Prada. Anna promoted Jill to entertainment editor, and she spent the next 18 and a half years deciding who got the cover of Vogue. She reveals which cover Anna wouldn't let her forget, how Beyoncé got her first Vogue cover, and why Angelina Jolie raided Gwyneth Paltrow's rack. Jill now hosts the Going Rogue podcast. Check it out on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/going-rogue/id1814440700 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCifqLV2sQB7b9WufQimRyqw And Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7CIDU8Gib1FRvscacNw4SR CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Anna's "next September" test 08:00 Egg sandwiches, voicemails & Burger Heaven milkshakes 12:45 Lauren Weisberger & the real Emily 18:30 What The Devil Wears Prada gets wrong 22:30 Why celebrities replaced models on covers 33:30 How Beyoncé landed her first Vogue cover 41:00 Photo approval & Beyoncé's no-interview cover 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Jill Demling 📷 Follow Jill on Instagram: @jilldemling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 28 · 32 min
The Rise of Fashion Slop (with Sam Sanders)
Amy recently joined The Sam Sanders Show to talk about the rise of AI slop in fashion. Thank you to Sam and his team for allowing Back Row to republish the interview here! ------- Even the fashion industry can’t escape AI slop. Fast fashion brands are using AI to pump out new looks and trends, and speed up production at unsustainable rates. It’s a business model that relies much more on algorithmic data than human design. Chances are you’ve even seen plenty of these products in your social media feeds. Sam chats with fashion journalist Amy Odell, host of the ‘Back Row’ podcast, about AI’s influence in the industry and how we can all be better consumers. Plus, is high fashion on life support? Amy also breaks down the perils of luxury shopping today. The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 26 · 1 hr 2 min
Inside Kim Kardashian's World with Her Biographer Jonathan Van Meter
Jonathan Van Meter spent five years inside Kim Kardashian's world for his new biography, Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future. He talks about what her rarefied world of fame and wealth is really like, her childhood front-row seat to the O.J. Simpson trial, and how Kanye West got her into the Met Gala. Plus: what Jonathan could and couldn't learn about how the sex tape was released, and whether Kim is laying the groundwork to run for political office. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 How Jonathan Got Five Years of Access 05:30 Inside Kim Kardashian's House (and Her 24 Staffers) 12:00 Kim Air: Kim's Private Jet 30:30 Kim and the O.J. Simpson Trial 40:30 The Kim Kardashian Sex Tape 45:30 The Paris Robbery 48:00 Kanye, Anna Wintour & the Met Gala 55:00 Will Kim Run for Office? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future: https://link.amazon/B0cKsNzKY Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Jonathan: @jonathanvanmeter Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 19 · 43 min
The Swan: Inside Reality TV's Most Brutal Makeover Show (with Director Erin Lee Carr)
*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Referenced in this episode: Facelift confessions, part 1: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-1-the-brutal-realities-of-getting-work-done Facelift confessions, part 2: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-2-expect-an-emotional-toll In 2004, Fox turned plastic surgery into primetime entertainment. The Swan reality show gave contestants about $200,000 worth of surgery each, put them on crash diets, banned mirrors for three months, and then put them in a beauty pageant. Nine million people watched. Erin Lee Carr, director of 'Mommy Dead and Dearest' and 'Britney vs Spears,' goes back to the women 20 years later in her hit Hulu documentary, The Swan: Behind the Mirror — and tells Amy what the documentary couldn't. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 04:45 Getting the Swans to talk again 10:00 "I almost died for reality television" 19:30 How much choice did they have? "1%" 22:45 Starvation diets and spoonfuls of peanut butter 26:00 The nude photos Dr. Haworth kept 28:50 The $5 million contract 36:50 "Would you do it again?" 40:00 A classic Anna Wintour story Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 13 · 18 min
Fashion Month Awards, Spring 2027: Dior's Slump, Chanelmania Continues, and Galliano Fallout (with Dana Thomas) [TEASER]
SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for the FULL Fashion Month Awards podcast and get more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Save three months on an annual subscription. For pod ONLY, sign up in Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-row-with-amy-odell/id1843400835) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/0wpDOgcuWKjpH9WxklNqI4). The spring 2027 shows just wrapped in Paris, a year after the "Great Reset" brought new creative directors to Chanel, Dior, and many more. Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, Gods and Kings and Fashionopolis, to hand out Fashion Month Awards. They get into John Galliano's PR rehab after the canceled Met show, who's having the biggest sophomore slump, and more. The full episode for Premium subscribers includes awards for Best Runway Stunt and Best Overall, plus analysis of John Galliano's weak Zara launch and Virginie Viard's explosive book. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 04:30 Biggest sophomore slump 10:45 Best show nobody talked about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 9 · 32 min
Stop Impulse Buying: How Fashion Month Keeps You Broke (with Mrs. Dow Jones)
Mrs. Dow Jones (Haley Sacks) on how to stop impulse buying and why fashion month keeps you broke. Part One of two. For part two — about Birkins and fashion's play to woo the wealthiest shoppers — get a Premium subscription to Back Row: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Save three months on an annual subscription. Or sign up in Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-row-with-amy-odell/id1843400835) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/0wpDOgcuWKjpH9WxklNqI4) Haley Sacks, aka @MrsDowJones, joins Amy to break down how fashion month keeps us stuck in a cycle of broke. Every season the same trend gets planted on the runway, in your feed, and on influencers, and within two weeks a cheaper version shows up at Zara. Haley talks about how to stop impulse buying, why luxury goods are so expensive, and what it was like to grow up in one of the world's wealthiest neighborhoods. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:30 How fashion month keeps us in a cycle of broke 04:00 From the runway to Zara in two weeks 08:00 Buy fewer, better things 10:00 How to stop impulse buying 16:00 The luxury pyramid and the $690 keychain 20:00 Is any luxury actually worth it? 22:00 Hunting a sold-out clutch with an AI agent 25:30 Haley's years as an Upper East Side nanny 📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Haley Sacks 📷 Follow Haley on Instagram: @mrsdowjones 📖 Buy Haley's book, Future Rich Person: https://link.amazon/B07xqeKEx🎙️ 🎙️Follow Haley's Financial Tea podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/financial-tea-with-mrs-dow-jones/id1860939850 🎙️ Follow Haley's Financial Tea podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58anKIbkGzd5MkI3v0BjY2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
October 5 · 50 min
Meghan Markle Deep Dive, Part One: From Struggling Actress to Meeting Harry
Harry and Meghan are back in the UK, six years after leaving the royal family. In the first part of Back Row's deep dive into Meghan Markle, Amy and former Us Weekly and Hello! editor Justin Ravitz — who has interviewed Prince Harry and worked with the couple's team — trace Meghan's story from her Los Angeles childhood to the night she met Harry. Part two is available to Back Row Premium subscribers. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 09:00 Meghan's Los Angeles childhood 12:30 Age 11: taking on Procter & Gamble 16:15 Briefcase No. 24 on Deal or No Deal 22:45 Landing Suits 30:00 The Tig blog and Meghan's Goop dream 35:30 Social climbing and Soho House 43:30 Humanitarian ambitions and meeting Harry Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy The Palace Papers by Tina Brown: https://link.amazon/B02EAsx6X Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Justin: @jaydubargh Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 28 · 57 min
Fur Is Out of Fashion. Is Wool Next?
PJ Smith, director of fashion policy for Humane World for Animals (formerly the Humane Society), has spent almost 20 years getting companies from Gucci to Net-a-Porter to go fur-free. Now that most top fashion brands have sworn off fur, is wool the next big target for animal welfare activists? PJ talks about why, thanks to LVMH, the fur fight isn't quite over, how he got brands to change their mind about fur, and what's next. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Why fur-free NYFW is historic 08:00 How Humane World actually changes brands' minds 18:30 Fur farming down 85% — the numbers 22:30 PETA vs. H&M: the wool protests 25:30 Is wool humane? Mulesing explained 46:30 Exotic skins: the next target 52:00 PJ's biggest lesson after 20 years Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 21 · 49 min
Fashionphile's Founder on How to Spot a Superfake Birkin (with Sarah Davis)
Superfakes have never been better and counterfeiters have never been smarter — so how can consumers buy secondhand luxury with confidence? Sarah Davis started Fashionphile on eBay in 1999, while she was in law school. Resale has exploded since: Her company now employs more than 350 people and authenticates roughly 1,500 luxury bags a day. Sarah reveals how she turned luxury authentication into an almost CIA-like operation, what gives away a fake Birkin bag, and how a $35,000 machine can tell if a Cartier Love bracelet is real or not. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 Law school, eBay, and the Fashionphile origin story 15:00 A real Chanel, a fake one — can you tell? 21:00 Fake bags bought at real stores 23:30 "Your dupe isn't cute" 26:30 The $75 fee that killed the counterfeits 29:30 The $35,000 machine that catches fake Birkins 44:30 Where resale goes next Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Sarah: @justsarahdavis · Shop Fashionphile: @fashionphile Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 14 · 1 hr 10 min
The Trend Forecaster Who Coined "Vibe Shift" on What Comes Next (with Sean Monahan)
*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Trend forecaster Sean Monahan coined the "vibe shift" five years ago to describe the unease millennials felt coming out of the pandemic. Of all the terms Monahan has coined — from "normcore" to the "boom boom aesthetic" — the vibe shift may have been the stickiest. He and Amy revisited his predictions from five years ago and discuss what he got right and wrong. Monahan offers predictions on whether smart glasses will take; where rage bait is heading; the future of "flexing"; where the Met Gala goes from here; and what luxury fashion has to do to recover. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 03:00 The boom boom aesthetic and the '80s that weren't 06:00 Why crypto killed streetwear 08:30 Normcore, and the anxiety behind it 19:00 Did tackiness give way to taste? 24:00 Smart glasses, glassholes and surveillance 38:00 Rage bait and the clipping economy 47:30 'The Devil Wears Prada 2' and Jeff Bezos 1:04:30 How does luxury fashion recover? 📩SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Back Row on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amy_odell 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Sean Monahan 📷 Follow Sean on Instagram: @8ghtb4ll 📩 Read 8Ball: https://www.8ball.report/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 8 · 49 min
How the Very Rich Really Live, From Billionaires' Row to Lauren Sánchez Bezos
Amy Chozick has spent her career writing about polarizing women — she covered Hillary Clinton for The New York Times, profiled Elizabeth Holmes right before prison, followed Stormy Daniels for Vogue, and wrote the widely dissected profile of Lauren Sánchez Bezos. Her new novel, With Friends Like You (https://amzn.to/4yjRlvI), follows Emily, a broke new mom in Manhattan, who goes looking for the college friend who vanished — and finds her working as a high-end escort to billionaires. To write the book, she researched the world of the ultra-rich obsessively. She also reveals what surprised her about Lauren Sánchez Bezos, discusses the detail everyone rehashed from that profile, and more. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 A new mother, a missing friend, and a billionaire's escort 4:00 Billionaires' Row and the empty towers 13:00 Covering Hillary Clinton, and what power does to people 17:00 Profiling Lauren Sánchez Bezos 23:00 "They stopped apologizing" — the new rich 30:00 Hillary's suits, Lauren's taped-up Vogue pages 41:00 Is fashion getting tackier? Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy With Friends Like You: A Novel: https://amzn.to/4yjRlvI Follow Back Row: @backrow Follow Amy: @instamyodell Follow Amy Chozick: @amychozick Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
September 1 · 16 min
The Met Cancels the John Galliano Retrospective (with Dana Thomas) [TEASER]
This is a teaser of a paywalled episode. To listen in full, become a paid subscriber of Back Row at: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Or sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. In a stunning move, the Metropolitan Museum of Art has cancelled "John Galliano: Horizons," the Costume Institute retrospective planned for May 2027. Galliano's biographer and fashion journalist Dana Thomas joined Amy hours after the Met made the announcement. They discuss what this means for fashion, for John Galliano, and for the Met Gala's planner and previously all-powerful architect, Anna Wintour. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:30 Why Dana wasn't surprised 01:30 When you lose the politicians and the donors 03:00 "Not an aberration" — Dana's New York Times op-ed 05:00 The incidents that never got reported 06:00 The 2019 spa incident 07:30 What the comment sections revealed 11:30 Philippe Virgitti, still waiting for an apology Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy Gods and Kings: The Rise and Fall of Alexander McQueen and John Galliano: https://amzn.to/4cSeZHw Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 31 · 1 hr 11 min
'The September Issue' Rewatch: Anna Wintour, Grace Coddington, and the Sienna Miller Hair Crisis (with Kate Casey)
*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription and get access to 'The September Issue' Rewatch Bonus episode!* The September Issue is R.J. Cutler's 2009 documentary about the biggest issue of Vogue ever made up to that point — 843 pages, 13 million copies sold. Amy is joined by Kate Casey, host of Reality Life with Kate Casey and a documentary and reality TV expert, to rewatch it seventeen years later. They get into what Anna Wintour really thought of the film, why she and her Vogue team hated Sienna Miller's hair so much, how it all aged, and much more. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 13 million copies sold — and what's left now 06:00 How Anna and Grace actually met 17:30 The retailers' breakfast, when Vogue set the trends 25:00 "Your girls always look the same" - Anna at her harshest 41:00 Anna at home, and the kids who didn't follow her 48:00 The Sienna Miller cover disaster 1:07:00 843 pages, and the era that ended 📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Kate Casey 🎙️ Reality Life with Kate Casey: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reality-life-with-kate-casey/id1154758766 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iZzKUbEWAsWVkFRebb9Gu 📷 Follow Kate on Instagram: @katecaseyca This episode was edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 24 · 1 hr
How Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen Built Two Billion-Dollar Empires (Part 1)
Back Row is on vacation this week, so we're revisiting one of the most popular episodes of the year: a two-parter on Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, in honor of The Row's 20th anniversary. Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen were on television before they could talk and millionaires before they could read. Former Us Weekly editor-in-chief Dan Wakeford, author of the new ⁠Celebrity Intelligence newsletter⁠, joins Back Row to break down the Full House casting story, the Dual Star empire, the billion-dollar licensing machine, and the NYU years that changed everything. Part Two — revealing the secrets behind The Row — is available to Premium subscribers. Sign up at ⁠Back Row⁠ (https://www.backrow.net/subscribe) to get newsletter access included with your subscription, or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ⁠Find Part Two in Apple Podcasts here⁠ ⁠Find Part Two in Spotify here⁠ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:40 Dan Wakeford and Celebrity Intelligence 02:47 Why the Olsens are a unique case study 07:50 The Full House casting story 10:07 The reality of child stardom 16:22 How their personalities diverged early 19:49 From pennies to $80,000 an episode 26:27 The home video empire begins 33:28 The billion dollar licensing machine 48:00 Turning 18 and taking control 53:41 NYU and the paparazzi years 57:47 How everything changed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 17 · 38 min
'Matcha, Pilates, Alo' Enters Its Flop Era: Inside the Influencer Recession
SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription. Is everything on social media — even lifestyle content — just rage bait now? New York Magazine features writer Rebecca Jennings joins Amy to unpack her hit Vulture piece on the "influencer recession," when aspirational content no longer works and creators have to come up with "brand-safe rage bait." What does this mean both for the content landscape but also, for rage itself? CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:00 What is the "influencer recession"? 02:45 The clipping economy & fake virality 05:15 Audrey Peters & the $25 DoorDash coffee 10:30 Why the Alo yacht flopped 14:35 Why Birkins are embarrassing now 19:30 The OpenAI influencer farm trip 24:00 Brands manufacturing their own rage bait 30:00 How Substack changed the game 34:30 Is rage bait losing its power? Read Rebecca's story: The Influencer Recession — https://www.vulture.com/article/influencer-recession-audrey-peters-interview.html Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 10 · 41 min
Is Fashion in Total Creative Collapse?
*SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row newsletter for more coverage like this: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription.* Is fashion in the throes of a total creative collapse? Critic Eugene Rabkin — founder of StyleZeitgeist and author of the new book Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism — joins Amy to make the case. He argues luxury has "devolved into a consumerist spectacle," its lack of ideas papered over by relentless marketing. They get into the greedflation behind a $140,000 Dior dress, why "craftsmanship" is the industry's greatest con, the Italian sweatshop scandals that never seem to stick, how Bernard Arnault turned the fashion world into the fashion industry — and the death of criticism, and why nobody seems to care. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Fashion's creative collapse: the thesis 08:30 Greedflation & the $140,000 Dior dress 13:00 The craftsmanship con 15:00 Sweatshop scandals: Dior & Loro Piana's vicuña 23:30 The death of fashion criticism 32:00 Bernard Arnault & how he industrialized fashion 📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe 📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow 📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell Follow Eugene Rabkin 📷 Follow Eugene on Instagram: @eugenerabkin 📚 Buy the book: Torn: Fashion and Postmodernism This episode was edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 4 · 8 min
John Galliano Is Finally Getting a Met Gala. Should He? (Teaser)
John Galliano is the subject of the Costume Institute's 2027 exhibition and will be celebrated with his very own Met Gala. Galliano's biographer Dana Thomas — author of Gods and Kings, a dual biography about Galliano and Alexander McQueen — joins the show to talk about what this means. Amy and Dana recap Galliano's fall from grace and image rehabilitation — thanks to Anna Wintour. This is a free preview. Hear the full conversation — a detailed recap of the controversy, the apology Galliano never made, and Amy's take on whether the Met should honor him — in the full episode in Back Row Premium. Sign up for the newsletter at backrow.net/subscribe to access the newsletter plus all Premium podcasts, or subscribe for audio only in Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
August 3 · 45 min
The Louvre Heist and Shady Billionaire Art Owners
"Parisian Heist" author Jo Piazza joins Amy to break down the October 2025 Louvre robbery — the suspects, the mysterious "sponsor," and why authorities aren't sure the suspects are telling the truth. Plus: why museum security is so basic, how art gets used to launder money and fund violent crime, the billionaire families who quietly run the art market, and what a $181 million Jackson Pollock says about the state of art and wealth. (00:00) Introduction (02:30) Recap: the Louvre heist, October 19, 2025 (04:30) The Isabella Stewart Gardner heist: $500M, still unsolved (07:30) The arrests and the mysterious "sponsor" named Joe (08:30) How basic museum security really is (13:00) What was stolen: the Napoleonic crown jewels (16:30) The Wildensteins & how art launders money (30:00) The $60 billion shadow art market (31:00) Restoring Empress Eugénie's crown & the French jewelry houses (38:30) The $181M Pollock & Jerry Saltz's takedown of the art market Subscribe to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe Buy The Parisian Heist: https://amzn.to/4yLV6ex Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Jo: @jopiazzaauthor Edited by Chrissi Harris. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
July 30 · 43 min
How Meta Turned Smart Glasses Into 'Hot Surveillance Summer' (with Taylor Lorenz)
In this special episode in collaboration with the Power User podcast Amy Odell joins tech journalist Taylor Lorenz to trace the arc of wearable tech — from the abomination that was Google Glass to Snapchat's vending-machine Spectacles and the company's recent $2,000 flop. Also, why Meta's rollout of it's new $299 fashion-first AI glasses, odious as many find them, may end up being a smash hit. Follow Taylor's show Power User on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube, and subscribe to her newsletter, UserMag. Chapters: 00:00 Intro — why everyone's arguing about Meta's glasses 01:36 Turning a camera into a fashion accessory 01:55 Welcome + the "hot surveillance summer" question 02:45 Google Glass and the original abomination 04:16 Snapchat Spectacles, vending machines, and a $130 flop 06:48 GoPro and how sports normalized filming everything 08:55 Ray-Ban Stories (2021) and the "creep" problem 10:57 2025: Oakley Meta and the first AI glasses 11:55 2026: low-profile frames, rhinestones, and AI as the real sell 13:25 The influencer rollout and the decline of fashion media 18:39 Why Kylie Jenner 21:40 How phones already normalized recording everything 24:56 Fashion, plausible deniability, and getting women on board 26:20 Will they actually sell? Meta's copy machine 29:19 The anti-screen crowd may be Meta's best customer 32:14 Beyond glasses: pins, pendants, and camera AirPods 35:29 Who owns the data? Facial recognition and the scary part 37:11 Zuckerberg, Bezos, the Met Gala, and OpenAI's fashion play 39:59 Snap's $2,000 flop and why ugly tech dies 43:03 Wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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