
Bringing Catherine of Siena to Life with Novelist Jenny duBay
Belle Meade sits down with Jenny duBay, an author and trauma-informed Catholic coach, to talk about her debut novel World Between Worlds, a fictional retelling of the early life of St. Catherine of Siena. Jenny traces how a passing reference to Catherine in a secular history book pulled her back into the Catholic faith after years away from the Church, and shares stories from years of research and travel to Siena. The conversation moves through what made Catherine radical for her time, the discipline behind writing historical fiction, and what readers can carry away from her story today. What We Talk About: How a passing reference to St. Catherine of Siena in Barbara Tuchman's history book "A Distant Mirror" led Jenny duBay back to the Catholic faith after years away from the Church The story behind leaving a copy of the novel in St. Catherine's home church in Siena, and how it ended up being sold in the basilica's gift shop A surprising discovery from Jenny's research — St. Catherine's real mission to Avignon was to broker peace for Florence, not simply to bring the pope back to Rome Why World Between Worlds opens with Catherine's childhood rather than her public ministry, and what that choice reveals about the ordinary struggles behind every saint St. Catherine's teaching on the "cell of self-knowledge" — balancing honest awareness of one's own sinfulness with trust in God's mercy — and how it shapes a healthy spiritual life Resources Mentioned: World Between Worlds A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman The Prodigal Parishioner (Jenny's Substack) Paloma&Fig Chapters: 00:00: Intro 00:43: Welcoming Jenny duBay and opening in prayer 03:11: What inspired the novel about St. Catherine of Siena 05:53: The path back to Catholicism 07:39: Research trip to Italy and the gift shop encounter 12:18: Surprising discoveries about St. Catherine's life 15:00: Why the novel opens with Catherine's childhood 21:09: Understanding St. Catherine's "Truth, capital T" 23:37: The novel's writing process 29:21: What readers can gain, and a look at the sequel 33:18: Returning to Italy and writing rituals 35:24: What brings the most joy — daily adoration Produced by Saint Kolbe Studios Send us Fan Mail Support the show Follow Paloma & Fig on Facebook, Instagram & LinkedIn. Learn more at www.palomaandfig.com. Join in the conversation by joining our Facebook group, A Resounding Yes!
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