Zodiac Speaking

AbJack Entertainment

Zodiac Speaking explores the infamous Zodiac Killer case which is one of America's greatest unsolved Mysteries. Hosts Mike Morford and Richard Grinell have spent thousands of hours analyzing every aspect of the Zodiac case, and in each episode of Zodiac Speaking, they explore a different piece of the mystery. Whether you are new to the Zodiac case, or well-versed in its lore, listeners are bound to learn something new.

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#48
July 4 · 1 hr 30 min
The CON in the Code Part 3
Episode 48 The CON in the Code Part 3 This is our third and final part of our deep dive into the claims by Alex Baber that he has solved both the Zodiac & Black Dahlia cases, and that one killer was responsible for all of the murders. In this episode Mike Morford has a round table discussion with Ross Geraci of Planet X Filmworks on Youtube, Ned Dehan from Black Box Online Radio, and long time Zodiac forum researcher Andrew 'Druzer' Gray. The group has a lively discussion and they do not mince words as they share their final conclusions. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.
#47
June 27 · 2 hr 37 min
The CON in the Code Part 2
Episode 47 The CON in the Code Part 2 In this episode, we continue to push back on the narrative pushed by 'Team Baber' that the Black Dahlia Killer, and the Zodiac Killer were one and the same. We are joined by former FBI profiler, and host of the podcast; The Consult, Julia Cowley. She has had years of training and experience working serial related to serial killers, and she shares her opinions on where Baber's claims miss the mark, but also discusses things that may go in his favor. We are also joined again by Ned Dehan of Black Box Online radio who has heavily discussed both the Black Dahlia, and Zodiac cases. This is the second of multiple episodes examining Baber's claims, and hopefully at the end of this series, listeners can decide if Baber onto something, or is he simply a con man. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.
#46
June 20 · 1 hr 48 min
The CON in the Code Part 1
Episode 46 The CON in the Code Part 1 Alex Baber has been getting a lot of attention in Zodiac circles, and in news media due to his claims that he has solved the Zodiac mystery, and that the killer was Marvin Margolis. But Baber's claims go beyond that, because he has also stated that Margolis was also the killer of Elizabeth Short; AKA, 'The Black Dahlia'. Despite having a team of 'Experts' in his corner, people that know the Zodiac case well have pushed back on Baber's claims, and the more you look into Baber, the more troubling things you find that cast doubt on his claims, and undermine his credibility. In this episode, Mike Morford is joined by Dave Oranchak who has recently published a deep dive series of Youtube videos digging into Baber and his claims. Also joining Mike in this episode is Ned Dehan of Black Box Online radio who has heavily discussed both the Black Dahlia, and Zodiac cases. This is the first of multiple episodes examining Baber's claims, and hopefully at the end of this series, listeners can decide is Baber onto something, or is he simply a con man. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.
January 7 · 3 min
Introducing Morbidology, a preview of episode 342: The Case of Jassy Correia.
Introducing Morbidology, a preview of episode 342: The Case of Jassy Correia. On February 24, 2019, 23-year-old Jassy Correia went out to celebrate her birthday at a nightclub in Boston's Theatre District with friends. When she left the club in the early morning hours, surveillance footage would capture her final moments of freedom. What followed was a frantic search by her family and a race against time by investigators that would span multiple states. Make sure to subscribe to Morbidology across all podcast platforms and YouTube.
January 3 · 10 min
Introducing: Below the Surface from AbJack Entertainment
Introducing: Below the Surface from AbJack Entertainment Below the Surface is a true crime podcast covering a variety of strange and bizarre cases with one common theme; a water connection. The show features both solved and unsolved cases, some of which are well known, while others have received little attention. In this special preview of episode 1, we explore the puzzling case of Kim Wall who was Best known for her articles in the Guardian, New York Times, and Vice, journalist. She disappeared in a submarine beneath the Oresund Strait after interviewing inventor, Peter Madsen, on August 10, 2017. We can only speculate what exactly happened below the surface, but upon the submarine's resurface, Kim was missing, but Peter Masden was not. To listen to Episode 1 of Below the Surface, search for it on your favorite podcast app. You can also listen to episode 2 right now. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Below the Surface is hosted by Olivia McKenzie (Co host of True Crime Society). It's produced by Mike Morford of AbJack Entertainment (Co host of Criminology). Research and writing by Abagail Belcastro (Campus Killings) You can find Below the Surface on your favorite social media outlets.
Dec 12, 2025 · 7 min
Introducing Of Hell: Texas True Crime
Introducing Of Hell: Texas True Crime This is a preview of Of Hell: Texas True Crime, a narrative investigation into the darkest crimes committed on Texas soil.From the creators of Gone Cold, each episode dives deep into cases where violence leaves a permanent scar on the land and the people who call it home. This clip features the haunting case of Nancy, a beloved mother taken from her home and brutally tortured and murdered. What begins as a tragic disappearance in a quiet Texas neighborhood unravels into a story of fear, grief, and a killer who believed he could erase a life without consequence. Hear the clip right here, and if it leaves you wanting answers — and needing justice — subscribe to Of Hell: Texas True Crime wherever you listen to podcasts. Listen + Follow Of Hell: Texas True Crime on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/ofhellpodcast/ …and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/OfHellpodcast/ Available now wherever you listen to podcasts.
Aug 9, 2025 · 56 min
Interview with Former FBI Profiler Julia Cowley Part 2 of 2
Episode 45 Interview with Former FBI Profiler Julia Cowley Part 2 of 2 In part 2 of this special 2 part episode, former FBI agent and profiler, Julia Cowley, takes a close look at host Mike Morford's favorite suspect; 'Mac' to see where he lines up with Zodiac in her opinion, and where he might not. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch
Aug 9, 2025 · 1 hr 37 min
Interview with Former FBI Profiler Julia Cowley Part 1 of 2
Episode 45 Interview with Former FBI Profiler Julia Cowley Part 1 of 2 In part 1 of this special 2 part episode, host Mike Morford sits down with the host of The Consult Podcast; Julia Cowley, who is a retired FBI agent and profiler. In Part 1, she discusses what it is that a profiler does, and how they aide in solving crimes. She also shares her thoughts on the Zodiac case, and answers questions put forth by Zodiac Speaking listeners, and Zodiackiller.com forum members. In part 2, Julia will take a close look at Mike Morford's favorite suspect; 'Mac' To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch
Jul 7, 2025 · 5 min
Introducing; Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore ZS
Introducing: Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore Join hosts Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore as they take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever — where a single clue can crack a case wide open. From shocking murders to serial killers, Clues dives into all the forensic details and brilliant sleuthing of the world's most infamous cases. CLUES is a Crime House Original, powered by PAVE Studios. Follow and listen now wherever you get your podcasts.
#44
May 24, 2025 · 2 hr 29 min
The BIG Mac Update
Episode 44 The BIG Mac Update It's been two years since the 2 part episode about Mike Morford's favorite Zodiac suspect, Mac was released. A lot of listeners have asked is there anything new on the Mac front, and it turns out there's plenty. In this special double length 2.5 hour episode, Mike is joined by fellow Zodiac researcher and Citizen Sleuth, Andrew Osborne. He is one of the people that has been digging hard into one of the most promising Zodiac Killer suspects to come along in years. The more digging that's done into Mac, the more shocking things that are found. How many coincidences does it take to reach a tipping point? To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch
May 23, 2025 · 1 hr 23 min
Is there a New England Serial Killer? Roundtable with Lordan Arts and Crawlspace Media
Is there a New England Serial Killer? Roundtable with Lordan Arts and Crawlspace Media In this special episode, Mike Morford from Zodiac Speaking teams up with friends of the show, John Lordan of Lordan Arts, and Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna of Crawlspace Media, in a roundtable discussion. Together they tackle a series of New England deaths that have been making headlines, and have some people asking the question; is there a New England Serial Killer? To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For show news, past episodes, and more, please check out the Zodiac Speaking Website. & for formative Zodiac articles, check out Rich's website. Find us on your favorite social media platforms; we'd love to interact with you. You can find us on the following platforms: Facebook - Instagram - Threads - X formerly Twitter - Bluesky - Tik Tok - Twitch
May 22, 2025 · 1 min
Zodiac Speaking Preview of EP44 coming Sat May 24th
A preview of episode 44 Hey Zodiac Speaking listeners; an all new double length episode drops this Saturday May 24th. In this episode, we look further into Zodiac suspect 'Mac' with a special guest who's one of the Citizen Sleuths digging into this promising suspect. To listen to every episode of this show early & AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our show's homepage Follow us on the following social media outlets: Facebook X formerly Twitter Instagram Threads Bluesky Pinterest Tik Tok Twitch For in depth Zodiac articles, check out Richard Grinell's Zodiac site
#43
Mar 15, 2025 · 1 hr 17 min
Domingos/Edwards and Ray Davis
Episode 43 Domingos - Edwards and Ray Davis In this episode, Mike Morford is joined by guest Ross Geraci of Planet X Filmworks who discusses his extensive research into the June, 1963 double murder of high school sweethearts; Robert Domingos and Linda Edwards, on a lonely beach in Santa Barbara County, CA and the mysterious April, 1962 murder of cab driver Ray Davis in Oceanside, CA. Both cases have been linked in some ways to the later Zodiac murders, due to strong similarities in the cases. But there are also some key differences. Our guest Ross walks us through these cases and discusses his 'boots on the ground' approach to working these cases. Visit this link to check out the John Averitt documentary video mentioned in this episode. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
Mar 1, 2025 · 10 min
Introducing; Killer Communications
Introducing: Killer Communications AbJack Entertainment, the same network that brings you Zodiac Speaking, has a brand new show launching March 1,2025. It's called Killer Communications, and it's hosted by Mike Morford. In each episode of Killer Communications, Mike discusses a true crime case where one of the clues is a mysterious form of contact; whether it's a frightening phone call to a victim, a mysterious email to the press, or a taunting letter sent to the press, these bizarre communications happen more often than you might think, and sometimes have deadly consequences. In this short preview of Killer Communications, Season 1 Episode 1, you'll hear about the case of Dale Williams, a father and husband, who was lured from the Nucla, Colorado body shop he owned by a mysterious caller in 1999. He was never seen again. His abandoned truck was found submerged in a local waterway, but there was never any sign of Dale himself. Despite an ex-friend of Dale's being a longtime suspect in the case, police were never able to make an arrest. But that all changed in 2024 when an arrest and answers finally came. After you listen to this preview of Killer Communications, head over to your favorite podcast app, and be sure to subscribe to Killer Communications, so you can hear the full episode on Dale Williams, and catch every new episode of Killer Communications. Visit the Killer Communications homepage for news about the show, and past episodes.You can also follow Killer Communications on social media, via X or Facebook.
#42
Dec 21, 2024 · 1 hr 9 min
Lake Herman Road 56th Anniversary
Episode 42 Lake Herman Road 56th Anniversary On December 20th, 1968, teenagers David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen would become the first confirmed victims of the Zodiac Killer. They were gunned down on sleepy Lake Herman Rd on the outskirts of Vallejo in a tight six minute window of time. At the time of the murders, police were stumped as to who would want the young couple dead. It wasn't until months later in July, 1969 that Zodiac would strike again, and take credit for the Lake Herman Rd murders; launching one of the greatest unsolved mysteries in American history- who was the Zodiac Killer?; a question still being asked over half a century later. In this episode, special guest Blackbox Online Radio host, Ned Dehan discusses the clues and evidence from Lake Herman Rd, and the unanswered questions that still hang over the double murder on the anniversary of the crime 56 years later. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
#41
Nov 23, 2024 · 55 min
A Predator in Riverside?
Episode 41 A Predator in Riverside? In this episode, Mike and Richard are joined by special guest Zodiac Expert; Drew Gray. Together, they discuss an attack in Riverside, CA around the time Cheri Jo Bates was killed there. In the attack that is reminiscent of the attack on possible Zodiac victim, Kathleen Johns, the assailant referenced the Bates murder. The question remains; was the attacker connected at all to the Bates case. and/or the Zodiac case? To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
#40
Nov 9, 2024 · 1 hr 10 min
Discussing the Netflix Docuseries; This is the Zodiac Speaking
Episode 40 Discussing the Netflix Docuseries; This is the Zodiac Speaking In this episode, hosts Morf and Richard are joined by Blackbox Online Radio host, Ned Dehan. They discuss the current his Netflix douseries; This is the Zodiac Speaking, which explores the claims of the Seawater family. They share their experiences and stories of time spent with Zodiac suspect Arthur Leigh Allen. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
#39
Jan 6, 2024 · 2 hr 29 min
Big News In the Donna Lass case
Episode 39 Big News In the Donna Lass case Big News in the case of possible Zodiac Killer Victim, Donna Lass. Police just confirmed that her remains, primarily her skull was discovered in 1986, and finally after a long delay, and official ID has been made. While the news is welcome, especially as it may help her family to deal with her loss, the ID of Donna's remains have only led to more speculation and questions, and has re-fueled discussion of whether or not Donna was a Zodiac victim. In this episode, Mike and Rich are joined by a special guest; Ned Dehan of Black Box Online Radio to dive into all of the available information on Donna's case To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/
Aug 28, 2023 · 1 min
Introducing AbJack Insider
AbJack Entertainment, the true crime network that brings you Zodiac Speaking and several other true crime podcasts, would like to introduce you to AbJack Insider through Apple Podcasts. What is AbJack Insider? It's a value-based subscription that gives listeners VIP access to not only Zodiac Speaking, but to every other show on the AbJack network. You'll get things like early episodes, bonus content, and AD-FREE listening. Every episode of every show on AbJack published in August, 2023 and after, will be AD-FREE with an AbJack Insider subscription. In addition, several shows on the network already have completely AD-FREE and bonus content published in the AbJack Insider APP, and more and more previously published episodes will be added to the AD-FREE lineup. Every episode of Zodiac Speaking is already available to listen to ad-free. You'll get access to exclusive content not available without a subscription, and in some cases, episodes in advance of their publish date giving AbJack Insiders the first chance at hearing new material. Your subscription will get you VIP access to every podcast on the network, and any new shows added to the network, for one low price of $4.99 per month, or $49.99 per year. You can also start off with a free trial subscription to see if it's for you. Simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started. AbJack Entertainment is dedicated to bringing you the best in Indie true crime podcasts, and your support with an AbJack Insider subscription will support the network, and all of the hosts who are focused on continuing to bring you all of the great content you're looking for. On behalf of the AbJack network, its shows, and hosts, thank you for your support.
Aug 11, 2023 · 1 hr 16 min
The State of DNA in the Zodiac case
Episode 38 The State of DNA in the Zodiac case In this episode, Mike Morford discusses the state of DNA in the Zodiac case with DNA analyst and Lab Director of Pure Gold Forensics, Suzanna Ryan. Mike & Suzanna review the evidence in both confirmed and possible Zodiac crimes, and what clues any DNA left behind by the killer(s) may help solve the case(s) once and for all. Suzanna compares the most modern DNA examination techniques to those that were available to investigators even just a decade ago. Can evidene be re-examined for clues that weren't found previously; clues that may one day ID the Zodiac? Suzanna's insights may surprise listeners causing them to re-evaluate what they thought they knew about the confirmed and possible Zodiac crimes. To listen to every episode of this show AD-FREE and get benefits like bonus and early-access episodes of every other show on the AbJack Network, consider an AbJack Insider subscription from Apple Podcasts. For all things Zodiac Speaking, check out our homepage: https://www.abjackentertainment.com/zodiac-speaking Follow Zodiac Speaking on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/Zodiac-Speaking-Podcast-105911481547105 or on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PodcastZodiac Visit Mike Morford's Zodiac site at: https://zodiackiller.net/ And Richard Grinell's Zodiac site at: https://www.zodiacciphers.com/

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