
Your Traitor Within: Breaking Generational Silence with Sally Wolfe
Jessica Anne Pressler, LCSW, is joined by author Sally Lefton Wolfe for a deeply personal conversation about Holocaust survival, intergenerational trauma, grief, and learning to express emotions after growing up in a family where so much went unspoken. Sally was raised by two Holocaust survivors from Czechoslovakia who endured multiple concentration camps. Her parents were loving, but the enormity of what they had survived was rarely discussed. As a child, Sally knew something was different. She had no grandparents, fewer relatives than many of her friends, and a mother who experienced nightmares and intense reactions connected to the past. Without anyone explicitly telling her to suppress her emotions, Sally learned to keep much of what she felt inside. As an adult, she began noticing similar patterns among other children of Holocaust survivors. She started interviewing members of the second generation, and that research eventually became her book, The Survivor’s Legacy. Through those stories, Sally encountered the many ways unresolved trauma could shape the next generation, from difficulty expressing emotion and intense fears around safety to overprotection, anger, anxiety, and the pressure to simply “carry on.” One of the most moving parts of the episode comes when Sally discusses the sudden death of her first husband, when her sons were only 10 and 16. Her first instinct was to hide her grief from them. Then she realized that doing so would teach them the same lesson she had absorbed as a child: painful feelings should remain hidden. Sally made a conscious decision to let her sons see her sadness and give them permission to speak about their own grief. Jessica connects Sally’s experience to the Traitor Within framework: the protective parts we develop early in life can help us manage what feels unbearable, but those same defenses can become restrictive in adulthood. For Sally, the emotional “wall” once served a purpose. Healing now involves learning that she can lower that wall slowly, experience difficult feelings, and allow safe people to support her. They also discuss grief after losing a spouse, loving again without erasing the person who died, the importance of keeping Holocaust testimony alive as survivors age, and why breaking an intergenerational pattern does not require rejecting the generations who came before us. About Sally Wolfe Sally Wolfe is the author of The Survivor’s Legacy, a book informed by her experience growing up as the daughter of two Holocaust survivors and her interviews with other members of the second generation. Order The Survivor’s Legacy: https://www.amazon.com/Survivors-Legacy-Holocaust-Shaped-Generations-ebook/dp/B08T7Q3T8S Instagram: @sallylefton Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sally.lefton Preorder Jessica’s Novel Jessica Anne Pressler’s debut novel, Traitor Within: How Her Fear of Abandonment Led Her to Abandon Herself, is available for preorder now and releases September 22. Like this week’s conversation, the novel explores what happens when protective patterns formed early in life continue shaping us long after the original circumstances have changed. Through Casandra’s story, Jessica examines fear of abandonment, self-abandonment, trauma, relationships, and what it takes to finally trust yourself. As a special preorder gift, readers will receive a full year of guided Your Traitor Within journaling prompts. Preorder here: https://www.jessicaannepressler.com/the-books Support the show