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WHOLE: The Podcast

Christabel Heasman-Cossins

Achievement is healthiest and most sustainable when it is aligned with meaning, authenticity, values and psychological flexibility. WHOLE: The Podcast explores the stories and psychology behind sustained meaningful achievement, and how people continue evolving despite the inevitable challenges.

Hosted by Christabel Heasman-Cossins (performer, presenter, coach and researcher), WHOLE looks beyond surface-level ideas of success to examine how people build meaningful careers, navigate challenge, and continue evolving across creative, professional and athletic fields.
Through conversations with individuals from the arts, sport, media and beyond - alongside reflections grounded in academic perspectives on motivation, performance and the self - WHOLE: The Podcast explores what drives people not only to begin a path, but to sustain it.

This podcast grew out of the WHOLE Framework - What, Honesty, Ownership, Living It and Evolution - which recognises meaning and purpose as central components of long-term wellbeing and fulfilment. Blending lived experience with psychological insight, WHOLE offers an honest look at the human realities behind achievement, creativity and longevity.

To find out more about the WHOLE Framework head to wholecoaching.co.uk
Follow on Social Media: @christabelsvoice

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  • S3 · E4
    Wednesday · 41 min

    The Evolution of One Man and Ibiza | Danny Whittle

    How does a 16-year-old boy who joins the Royal Navy go on to become one of the most influential people in the history of Ibiza's club scene? As the former musical director of Pacha and co-founder of the International Music Summit, Danny Whittle helped shape the Ibiza we know today, including playing an important part in David Guetta's rise to international success. Now executive producer of Club Chinois, Danny has lived several quite extraordinary lives. He served in the Falklands War, became a firefighter and then went on to help shape Ibiza into the international dance music destination it is today. What I found most interesting about Danny was not simply what he had achieved. It was his attitude towards life. Danny knows an extraordinary amount about the history of Ibiza, its people, its environment and the challenges it faces. He is curious, engaged and thoughtful about how he lives and the influence he has on the place he calls home. As we talked, we began to recognise a rather beautiful thread running through his life. He had gone from being a fighter, to a protector, to someone whose work was about bringing people happiness. And none of this was planned. We spend so much of our youth thinking about what we're going to do with our lives, as though we must choose a direction and remain on that path. Yet Danny's story is a reminder that we can have several very different lives as adults. We can change direction quite spectacularly, and in doing so discover opportunities and abilities we might never have imagined. What struck me was that despite all these changes, Danny's underlying values seem remarkably consistent. His bravery, sense of adventure, respect for others and willingness to contribute have simply found different expressions. I came away from this conversation feeling inspired and invigorated. It's a fascinating discussion about reinvention, influence, freedom, responsibility and the importance of remaining interested in the world beyond ourselves. Perhaps most importantly, it's a reminder that we don't have to remain who we once were. We can let go of what no longer serves us, evolve and go on to do extraordinary things. NOTE: This episode was filmed outside so the sound of wind is present throughout. WHOLE: The Podcast explores how to build a life you love doing what you are most inspired by - at any age! The psychology of meaning-led success through honest, revealing conversations with incredible people. We go beyond the achievements to examine what drives people, the choices they make, the challenges they face and what they discover about themselves along the way, because success isn't just about what we achieve, but what it takes to get there and whether the journey is worth it. Subscribe for more conversations and discover WHOLE beyond the podcast. Instagram: @christabelsvoice Website: www.wholeframework.com of meaning-led success through honest, revealing conversations with incredible people. We go beyond the achievements to examine what drives people, the choices they make, the challenges they face and what they discover about themselves along the way, because success isn't just about what we achieve, but what it takes to get there and whether the journey is worth it. Subscribe for more conversations and discover WHOLE beyond the podcast. Instagram: @christabelsvoice Website: www.wholeframework.com

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  • S3 · E3
    October 28 · 42 min

    The Creative Art of Naughtiness | David McGillivray

    What happens when you stop worrying about what's normal, respectable or expected of you? David McGillivray has spent more than 60 years finding out. This effervescent and slightly shocking episode had me laughing out loud. A wonderful conversation which had me pondering whether I have played it too safe in my life. If you are looking for permission to be your most transgressive self, this is it. Pour yourself a glass or just crack open a Christmas chocolate and settle down for the story.... Dubbed 'The Truffaut of Smut', but best known for his 42-year creative partnership with Julian Clary, David is also a journalist, playwright, screenwriter and filmmaker whose extraordinary career has taken him through the wildest corners of British entertainment. Expelled from school at 17, he went on to write notorious 1970s sex comedies, cult horror films and outrageous comedy. Along the way, there were drugs, Soho nightlife, artistic adventures and plenty of rule-breaking. Now nearing 80, David is still writing, creating and pursuing whatever fascinates him. He claims to have no regrets, despite admitting that some of his work was dreadful! In this candid, funny and occasionally outrageous conversation, we explore rebellion, creativity, identity, fear and the freedom that comes from questioning convention. David's story is an invitation to be a little less obedient, a little more curious and perhaps a little wilder. Because stepping outside the boundaries of what's expected of us might just open up possibilities we never imagined. WHOLE: The Podcast explores the psychology of meaning-led success through honest, revealing conversations with incredible people. We go beyond the achievements to examine what drives people, the choices they make, the challenges they face and what they discover about themselves along the way, because success isn't just about what we achieve, but what it takes to get there and whether the journey is worth it. Subscribe for more conversations and discover WHOLE beyond the podcast. Instagram: @christabelsvoice Website: www.wholeframework.com

  • S3 · E2
    October 21 · 34 min

    Frank Smith: Matchroom Boxing CEO at 26 | How, Why and Was It All Worth It?

    One of the most inspiring people I have interviewed, Frank Smith started working with Eddie Hearn at 14, having relentlessly pursued him for an opportunity. By 26, he was running one of the biggest boxing promotion businesses in the world. My burning questions were: How do you become CEO of Matchroom Boxing at just 26? What does it actually take to get there? What drove him to succeed so young? And was it all worth it? We talk about money, ambition, the extraordinary dedication required to reach the top, and the experiences he sacrificed along the way. Frank also speaks candidly about Conor Benn, Chris Eubank Jr, loyalty, ego, why he believes emotion can be detrimental in business, and the criticism that genuinely got under his skin. And perhaps most interestingly, why the things he wants from life now are very different from those he wanted at 14. An honest, funny and revealing conversation about getting to the top, staying there, and knowing what you actually want from life. I jumped straight up after this interview and ran upstairs to my office to get on with some work! Set aside some time after listening because I am sure you will do the same! Happy Listening! WHOLE: The Podcast explores the psychology of meaning-led success through honest, revealing conversations with incredible people. We go beyond the achievements to examine what drives people, the choices they make, the challenges they face and what they discover about themselves along the way, because success isn't just about what we achieve, but what it takes to get there and whether the journey is worth it. Subscribe for more conversations and discover WHOLE beyond the podcast. Instagram: @christabelsvoice Website: www.wholeframework.com

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  • S3 · E1
    October 7 · 54 min

    Are You a Panda Too? Oli Howe on Authentic Content Creation, Music and Mental Health

    What happens when you stop creating for the algorithm and start creating as yourself? Musician and content creator Oli Howe has attracted millions of views and a huge online audience by doing almost everything creators are told not to do: three-minute videos, no conventional viral hooks, simple editing, a deadpan stare, plus music he genuinely wants to make. His reharmonisations of well-known songs have attracted millions of views and attention from artists including Justin Timberlake, Lenny Kravitz, Chaka Khan, David Foster and TLC’s Chilli. But behind Oli’s success is a much deeper story. In this conversation, Oli talks openly about losing his father, the suicide of his sister, depression, PTSD and complex PTSD, severe panic attacks, physical illness and the period in which he lost his ability to perform and create and, with it, much of his sense of identity. We talk about creativity as a way of processing emotion, why creative block doesn’t mean you’ve stopped being creative, perfectionism, knowing when your work is “good enough”, the pressure of numbers and likes, and why authenticity may be far more powerful than trying to manufacture virality. Oli also explains the surprisingly deliberate structure behind his videos — the recurring jokes, musical payoffs and tiny familiar moments that keep millions of people watching. A conversation about creativity, mental health, grief, resilience, perfectionism, social media — and finding your own way of doing things. P.S. Get ready to cry!! Find Oli on Instagram: @oli_howe_keys WHOLE: The Podcast explores what helps us live, create and work in closer alignment with what genuinely matters to us. Head to wholeframework.com to learn how you can do the same.

  • S2 · E7
    August 27 · 51 min· Video

    The Inspirational Story Behind a Billion Streams | Abi Flynn (singer)

    You may have heard Abi Flynn's voice millions of times without ever knowing her name. Her unmistakable vocals have featured on huge dance records including Navos’ platinum-selling Believe Me and D.O.D’s So Much In Love, with her toplines now exceeding one billion streams worldwide. Abi is the singer and songwriter behind vocals that went on to appear on multiple platinum-selling dance records. Extraordinary enough, but those vocals were originally recorded during one of the darkest periods of her life, while she was undergoing treatment for Hodgkin's lymphoma. At one point, Abi says she was given just three weeks to live. She kept creating.Years later, she found herself hearing her voice on the radio while remaining uncredited and struggling to establish herself in the industry in her own right. At one stage, while raising her son as a single mother, she lost her home while another record featuring her voice went gold.Today, Abi is finally becoming known as the woman behind the voice. She is finally stepping into the spotlight in her own right, working with artists including Nathan Dawe, Joel Corry and Tinie Tempah. In this conversation, we explore what happened next: the decision to reclaim her voice, tell her story and create opportunities for herself rather than waiting for permission.Abi and I also talk about cancer, creativity, motherhood, neurodivergence, letting go, identity, self-belief, finding the right people, and the uncomfortable reality of pursuing a life built around something that matters deeply to you. This is a conversation about much more than surviving. It's about what happens when the thing that nearly disappeared from your life becomes the thing you finally decide to claim. If you enjoyed this conversation, please like, subscribe and follow WHOLE for more conversations about what it really takes to build a life around what matters to you — the choices we make, what we sometimes have to let go of, and the courage it takes to keep moving towards a meaningful life. #AbiFlynn #SingerSongwriter #MusicIndustry #DanceMusic #FemaleArtists #WomenInMusic #BehindTheMusic #Songwriter #MusicBusiness #PlatinumHits #CancerSurvivor #CancerStory #Resilience #CreativeLife #FindingYourVoice #SelfBelief #LettingGo #PersonalGrowth #WholePodcast #Podcast Takeaways: The podcast discusses the profound journey of Abby Flynn, a singer who overcame cancer, balancing her career and motherhood while facing immense struggles in the music industry. Abby Flynn reflects on how her voice became globally recognized, yet she did not receive credit or compensation for many of the songs, highlighting industry exploitation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of finding one's tribe, as Abby shares how community support was essential during her cancer journey and career challenges. Abby discusses the significance of self-belief and authenticity in pursuing one's passion, as she navigated through personal trials and professional setbacks. The episode addresses the emotional complexities of letting go of relationships and projects that no longer serve one's growth, a recurring theme in Abby's narrative. Listeners are encouraged to recognize their own strength and resilience, as Abby's story illustrates that even in the darkest times, miracles can emerge from perseverance and creativity.

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  • S2 · E6
    August 20 · 25 min

    Are You Uncomfortable, or Just Out of Your Comfort Zone? | UNPACKED

    Takeaways: Discomfort is an inevitable aspect of pursuing meaningful endeavors that align with one's values. Individuals often find themselves confronted with challenges that test their self-concept and self-image. The willingness to embrace discomfort is crucial for personal growth and achievement. Failure is a necessary component of success, as it enables valuable lessons to be learned. Understanding the distinction between harmful and growth-oriented discomfort is paramount for personal development. One's journey may require letting go of old identities to embrace new opportunities for growth.

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  • S2 · E5
    August 13 · 50 min· Video

    Psychological Flexibility: How to Do What Matters Despite Anxiety | Dr David Juncos

    What if the goal isn't to eliminate anxiety? Clinical psychologist Dr David Juncos explains why trying to control anxiety often keeps people stuck—and why Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) takes a completely different approach. In this episode we explore why psychological flexibility matters, how values create lasting motivation, why procrastination and perfectionism are closely linked, and how musicians, performers and anyone facing pressure can learn to perform well even when anxiety is present. Dr David Juncos is a clinical psychologist, researcher, ACT specialist and author of ACT for Musicians. His work has helped musicians, performers and coaches around the world develop psychological flexibility and overcome performance anxiety. In this episode • Why reducing anxiety isn't the primary goal of ACT • The six processes of psychological flexibility • Why perfectionism fuels procrastination • The difference between values, goals and duties • How your self-story may be holding you back • Why discomfort doesn't mean you're on the wrong path • Practical ACT techniques you can use immediately If you enjoy conversations about psychology, wellbeing, creativity and meaningful performance, subscribe for more interviews with leading researchers, performers and thinkers.

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  • S2 · E4
    August 4 · 47 min

    Should You Follow Your Passion? | Carl Loben, Editor-in-Chief of DJ Mag

    What does it really take to build a successful career in music? In this episode, I sit down with Carl Loben, Editor-in-Chief of DJ Mag, music journalist, radio presenter, author and co-founder of record label, Out Yer Box. Over more than three decades, Carl has documented the evolution of electronic music, interviewed some of the biggest names in dance music and helped shape one of the world's most influential music publications. Together, we explore what it takes to build a meaningful and sustainable creative career. Carl shares why passion should come before money, how he created his own opportunities without formal journalism training, why portfolio careers are becoming the norm, and what the music industry can do to better support musician wellbeing. We also discuss the changing face of dance music, AI, social media, creativity, club culture and the future of music journalism. In this episode we discuss: How Carl became Editor-in-Chief of DJ Mag Building a career without formal journalism training Why following your passion matters more than chasing money The evolution of dance music and club culture Music journalism in the digital age AI and creativity Portfolio careers in the music industry Record labels and discovering new artists Musician wellbeing and burnout Why the music industry has changed so dramatically over the past 30 years Advice for anyone wanting a career in music Whether you're a musician, journalist, creative professional or simply interested in building a career driven by purpose, this episode offers honest insights from someone who has spent more than 30 years at the heart of the music industry. Takeaways: The foremost requisite for aspiring music journalists is an unwavering passion for music. Establishing a career in music requires a commitment to pursuing one's passions over monetary incentives. The music industry has evolved significantly, presenting new challenges for emerging journalists and artists alike. A portfolio career, where one engages in multiple roles, can provide both stability and fulfillment in the music industry. The landscape of music journalism has shifted, as digital platforms democratize the music distribution process, complicating traditional journalistic roles. Mental health awareness in the music industry has improved, highlighting the importance of self-care and balance amidst a demanding schedule. Companies mentioned in this episode: DJ Mag Jack Said What Records Melody Maker NME Beatport Spotify Links referenced in this episode: wholeframework.com jacksaidwhatrecords.com outyourboxrecords.com

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  • S2 · E3
    July 28 · 38 min

    Why Your Story Has the Power to Change Lives | TEDx Curator Helen Packham

    We all have a story but what if its greatest purpose isn't what it did for you, but what it could do for someone else? In this episode, I speak with TEDx curator, speaker and coach Helen Packham about the extraordinary power of personal stories to create change. Helen believes that every one of us has a story worth sharing, and that when we share it from a place of reflection rather than reaction, it can become a gift that inspires, comforts and empowers others. Helen opens up about losing her confidence after becoming a mother, the panic attacks that led her to leave a successful corporate career, and the courageous journey that ultimately took her to the TEDx stage. We explore identity, purpose, confidence, vulnerability and why our greatest challenges often become our greatest contribution. In this episode we discuss: • Why everyone has a story worth sharing • The ripple effect your story can have on others • The Hero's Journey and the anatomy of a powerful story • Why confidence is never truly lost • The difference between healing and sharing • How courage can become a guiding value • Turning life's challenges into something meaningful for others Whether you're looking to find your voice, make sense of your own journey or simply understand the power of human connection, this conversation offers thoughtful insights into how our experiences can become someone else's hope. I hope you enjoy the conversation. Takeaways: Every individual possesses a narrative worth sharing, regardless of its perceived significance. Our personal journeys can provide inspiration and hope to others facing similar challenges. The act of storytelling can serve as a powerful tool for personal and communal healing. Sharing our experiences not only benefits ourselves but also contributes positively to the lives of others. Links referenced in this episode: wholeframework.com ted.com helenpackham.com Companies mentioned in this episode: TEDx TED

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  • S2 · E2
    July 21 · 37 min· Video

    Discovering Leo Sayer, Writing Hits and Why Persistence Beats Talent | David Courtney (songwriter/producer)

    David Courtney, the man who discovered Leo Sayer, wrote and produced Roger Daltry's first solo album and whose back catalogue of songs has sold over 34 million copies worldwide. In this conversation we explore the extraordinary journey behind his career. From playing London's legendary Bag O'Nails club at just sixteen, to discovering Leo Sayer, writing Roger Daltrey's breakthrough solo hits, working with David Gilmour, and witnessing the greatest era of British music from the inside. We also discuss: • Songwriting and musical storytelling • The evolution of music production • AI and the future of creativity • Why persistence matters more than talent • Why success was never really about money This episode is a must for anyone who is a fan of music and the art of songwriting, but also it is for anyone who needs to find that spark of genius within them. If you suspect that success might be about something more than money, if you feel you are missing the final insight in your journey, or if you are looking for a wise voice to give you the encouragement you need, this episode is for you. If you enjoy conversations about music, creativity and living a meaningful life, subscribe for more interviews with the people behind some of the world's greatest music.

  • S2 · E1
    July 14 · 49 min· Video

    Guy Pratt: Pink Floyd, Madonna, Michael Jackson & The Truth About a Life in Music

    Guy Pratt is one of the world's most respected bass players, known for his work with Pink Floyd, David Gilmour, Madonna, Roxy Music and countless other legendary artists. In this episode he reflects on the highs and lows of a life in music, the insecurity that never completely disappears, performing in front of 80,000 people, working with some of the biggest names in popular music, and why finding your own creative path matters more than chasing success. We also talk about comedy, confidence, luck, family, creativity, Michael Jackson, Richard Branson, David Gilmour, and the advice Guy would give to anyone hoping to build a career in the arts. An honest conversation about music, resilience, authenticity and what it really takes to sustain a creative life. Key takeaways Why success doesn't eliminate self-doubt. How Guy became Pink Floyd's bassist through an unexpected opportunity. The importance of saying no to protect your values and relationships. What it's really like performing in front of 80,000 people. The surreal story of recording for Michael Jackson. Why comedy made Guy a better musician. How family shaped his journey into music. The reality behind a decades-long career in the music industry. Why finding your people is one of the most important steps in any creative career. Guy's advice for anyone pursuing a life in music or the creative arts. Mentioned in this episode: Pink Floyd Roxy Music Madonna Michael Jackson Deep Purple Dave Gilmour The Smiths Whitesnake Nick Mason Richard Branson Virgin Records Icehouse Robbie Robertson Nile Rodgers Jeff Beck

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  • #18
    May 12 · 22 min· Video

    The Art of Getting Go: How to Become the Real You

    In this solo episode of WHOLE: The Podcast, Christabel Heasman-Cossins explores the psychology of honesty, identity and letting go — and shares the personal story that led to the creation of the WHOLE Framework. What happens when the life you’ve built no longer feels aligned with who you are becoming? Through reflections on performance, exhaustion, purpose, motivation and self-identity, this episode explores the tension between external success and meaningful living, and why so many people remain stuck in lives, careers or patterns they have quietly outgrown. Christabel discusses: the fear of letting go of old identities performative success and external validation meaning, purpose and intrinsic motivation why change can feel psychologically threatening the importance of honesty and self-inquiry how the WHOLE Framework was born This episode is for anyone who feels stagnant, disconnected, creatively dulled or quietly aware that something in their life no longer fits. The WHOLE Framework: W — What H — Honesty O — Ownership L — Live It E — Evolution Explore more: wholeframework.com Follow: @christabelsvoice

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  • S1 · E17
    May 5 · 44 min· Video

    The Psychology of Style: Identity, Confidence and Tailoring | Gresham Blake

    What does it mean to truly express who you are? In this conversation, I sit down with tailoring duo, Gresham and Fal Blake to explore something that, on the surface, looks like tailoring, but very quickly reveals itself to be something much deeper. Because this isn’t just about style. What struck me in this conversation is that tailoring is not just about clothing, it’s about understanding people. Not in an abstract or theoretical way, but in a very real, intuitive sense. It involves reading someone, getting a feel for who they are. It is about understanding how they want to move through the world, and how they want to feel when they step into a room. There is psychology embedded in the process. We also talk about risk, instinct and the kind of self-belief it takes to build something from nothing, and the absolute authenticity that directs it. We also discuss the 'turning point'. The moment in a life when a decision is made to turn towards greatness, rather than towards what may be immeasurably easier. There’s a moment in the conversation where Gresham describes himself as an “extremist”, someone who felt they would either succeed completely or fail completely. What’s interesting is the evolution of that mindset over time: the movement from extremes into something more nuanced. More integrated. That, to me, is where this conversation really lives. Not just in style, but in evolution. The way we present ourselves to the world is so much part of who we are. It is no surprise that this duo present In how we become. What We Explore Why what you wear is not superficial—it’s an expression of identity The idea that tailoring is less about appearance and more about how you feel The parallels between tailoring and psychology: reading people, understanding values, building trust The role of collaboration in creative work—and in self-expression Risk-taking, instinct, and the reality of building something without certainty The tension between freedom and security in creative lives How identity evolves over time—and what it means to move beyond extremes The shifting landscape of tailoring, particularly for women, and what that reflects culturally Why authenticity—rather than trend—is the only sustainable foundation for style We often think of clothing as something external. Something aesthetic. Something separate from who we are. But what this conversation reveals is that it’s anything but. When what you wear aligns with who you are, something shifts. There’s a sense of ease. Of confidence. Of coherence. And when it doesn’t, we feel it. This episode is really an exploration of that alignment—and what it takes to get there. Takeaways: The act of donning a bespoke suit instills confidence, altering one's posture and demeanor. Tailoring transcends mere fabric manipulation; it embodies elements of psychology and self-identity. The bespoke tailoring process necessitates a profound understanding of the client's personality and preferences. In recent years, societal shifts have led to a greater acceptance of women wearing tailored suits in professional settings. The evolution of tailoring reflects broader fashion trends, yet authenticity remains paramount in personal expression. A tailored suit serves not only as clothing but as a vehicle for self-expression and personal empowerment. Links referenced in this episode: greshamblake.com wholecoaching.co.uk Companies mentioned in this episode: Marks and Spencer Vogue Gresham Blake Indian Summer BBC Radio 1

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  • S1 · E16
    April 28 · 21 min· Video

    The Importance of Values in Purpose, Meaning and Direction | WHOLE: Unpacked

    In this WHOLE Unpacked episode, I explore one of the most fundamental drivers of a meaningful life: values. If you’ve ever felt unsure about what you want, disconnected from your current path, or lacking a sense of purpose, this episode will help you understand why. I break down: What values are and how they differ from goals How values shape behaviour and decision-making Why values conflict—and why that’s part of being human How to identify your own core values How meaning emerges from living in alignment with them This episode is about clarity, direction, and building a life that actually reflects what matters to you. Takeaways: Values serve as the organizing principles that guide our behavior and decision-making processes. Identifying and clarifying one’s values is essential for constructing a meaningful and purposeful life. The distinction between values and goals is crucial; values represent directions rather than fixed destinations. A life devoid of values risks becoming reactive, lacking direction, and driven by basic survival instincts. Intrinsic motivation arises from engaging in activities that align with our true values, as opposed to external pressures. Awareness of one’s values allows for personal growth and the pursuit of a fulfilling life aligned with what truly matters. NB: In a section of the podcast the goal was mistakenly used in place of values. This was done in error. Any discussion of universality and benevolence is in relation to values, not goals. Links referenced in this episode: wholecoaching.co.uk An Overview of the Schwartz Theory of Basic Values: https://scholarworks.gvsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1116&context=orpc Self Determination Theory https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/2000_RyanDeci_SDT.pdf

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  • S1 · E15
    April 21 · 22 min

    The Lie That You’re “Too Old” to Start Again | WHOLE: Unpacked

    We’re often told, directly or indirectly, that there’s a point in life where it becomes “too late” to start again. In this episode, I explore where that belief comes from, how it shapes the way we see ourselves, and why it doesn’t actually hold up. From real-life examples to psychological ideas like self-stories and identity, I look at how this narrative forms—and why everyday life continually contradicts it. Because the evidence is all around us: people begin again, change direction, and pursue meaningful paths at every stage of life. The question isn’t whether it’s too late. It’s whether you’ve been led to believe that it is. personal growth career change midlife change starting over self development mindset ageism identity motivation life purpose psychological growth reinvention meaning and purpose change your life self belief Takeaways: The pervasive belief that individuals become irrelevant at a certain age is fundamentally flawed. There are numerous examples of individuals who successfully embarked on new careers later in life. The midlife phase often presents an ideal opportunity for personal and professional reinvention. Motivation can wane during challenging times, but establishing a conducive environment can help sustain focus. Self-stories formed in youth can limit perceptions of potential, yet they can be reexamined and transformed. Understanding one’s core values is essential in guiding life changes and new endeavors. Companies mentioned in this episode: Whole Whole coaching.co.uk Lila Ann Gray Tina Technotic Tina woods

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  • S1 · E14
    April 14 · 46 min· Video

    Raving at 60 — and Rethinking Midlife: Tina Woods (aka Tina Technotic)

    Takeaways: The importance of human connection in modern life has diminished due to technology, necessitating a return to community engagement. Longevity is not only a biological concern but is also deeply intertwined with meaning and purpose in life. Music and dance serve as primal forms of human expression that foster connection and well-being across all ages. Engaging in activities that bring joy and foster relationships is crucial for mental and physical health as one ages. Links referenced in this episode: whole coaching.co.uk Companies mentioned in this episode: Collider Health Longevity Rave Whole Coaching Nike Human Exposome Project Human Genome Project Team GB

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  • S1 · E13
    April 7 · 37 min· Video

    Sally Gunnell OBE: Pressure, Purpose and Life After Gold

    In this episode of WHOLE: The Podcast, Christabel is joined by Olympic gold medallist Sally Gunnell for a powerful conversation on performance, identity, and what it truly means to live with purpose. Sally shares what it takes to compete at the highest level, reflecting on pressure, mindset, injury, and the psychological demands of elite sport. But beyond the medals, this episode explores something deeper: what happens when a defining chapter ends, and how you rebuild a sense of meaning, direction, and self. Together, they explore the role of mental strength, visualisation, and discipline, as well as the transition from peak performance into a new phase of life. Sally also speaks candidly about women’s health, confidence, and her work empowering others through her platform Life’s Hurdles. This is a conversation about more than achievement. It’s about purpose, evolution, and learning how to keep moving forward, aligned with what matters, long after the external markers of success have passed. Takeaways: The internal voice of self-doubt can hinder our ability to pursue our goals effectively, highlighting the importance of mental resilience. Sally Gunnell emphasizes the necessity of self-kindness, advocating for individuals to appreciate their worth and capabilities. The transition from an athletic career to post-sport life requires significant adjustment and the establishment of new goals for personal fulfillment. The significance of visualization and mental preparation in achieving peak performance is paramount, particularly in high-pressure situations. Engaging in strength training is essential for maintaining physical health and mobility as one ages, especially for women. Building a supportive community can greatly enhance one's journey toward health and well-being, fostering accountability and shared experiences. Companies mentioned in this episode: Sally Gunnell Whole Life's Hurdles BBC Keely Hodgkinson Jason Gardner Dale Garland Steve Greer

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  • S1 · E12
    March 31 · 42 min· Video

    The Art of Being Seen: Matt Lucas on Turning Difference Into Strength

    In this episode, I speak with Matt Lucas, one of the UK’s most recognisable comedians, writers, and performers. We explore how early experiences shape identity and how something as difficult as being laughed at can become a powerful creative advantage. Matt shares how losing his hair as a child, and being the subject of attention and judgment, led him to develop a unique relationship with performance, not just as a career, but as a way of directing how he is seen. We talk about: Turning difference into creative strength Using humour to shape attention and connection The reality of failure - from silence to being booed off stage Why not taking yourself too seriously is essential Navigating public perception and criticism What it really takes to build a lasting creative career Matt also shares his honest framework for success: Talent, hard work, and luck; and why you need all three As well as a powerful insight: You can’t rely on just one path, you need more than one way forward This is a thoughtful, grounded, and often surprising conversation about resilience, identity, and what it really means to sustain a creative life. If you’ve ever felt judged, different, or unsure how to turn your experiences into something meaningful — this episode is for you. Takeaways: The podcast discusses how early experiences shape resilience in individuals, particularly in public life. Matt Lucas shares that his alopecia motivated him to pursue acting as a form of self-expression. The hosts explore the significance of authenticity in creative endeavors and the necessity of hard work. Listeners are encouraged to embrace their unique backgrounds and leverage them to fuel their artistic passions. The importance of diversifying one's skill set in the entertainment industry is highlighted throughout the episode. The conversation emphasizes that talent, hard work, and a measure of luck are essential for success in creative fields. Companies mentioned in this episode: Arsenal Little Britain Shooting Stars Come Fly With Me Fantasy Football League Doctor Who The Great British Bake Off The Masked Singer Neighbours EastEnders Nespresso

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    March 24 · 46 min· Video

    Omar: Authenticity, Longevity, and The Art of Being One of One

    In this episode, I sit down with the legendary Omar to talk about four decades in music, creativity, resilience, authenticity, and what it really takes to build a lasting career. We talk about his 2025 album Brighter the Days, much of which was written during lockdown, and how that period pushed him to adapt by developing his live-streaming setup when touring stopped. Omar reflects on longevity in the music industry, explaining that survival has come from being focused, hard-headed, and committed to making music that feels true to him rather than chasing trends. We also discuss his songwriting process, his distinctive approach to basslines and arrangement, and why musicians are so often drawn to his work. He talks about growing up around music, learning multiple instruments from childhood, recording ideas on tape recorders as a teenager, and developing the sonic instincts that shaped his sound. The conversation moves into deeper territory too: success, fatherhood, mental resilience, AI in music, health, and legacy. Omar speaks openly about being diagnosed with prostate cancer, why early testing matters, and how fitness and Muay Thai have become part of how he looks after himself physically and mentally. Above all, this episode is about staying authentic. Omar’s advice is simple but powerful: work hard, practise your craft, stand out from the crowd, and be fully yourself. Key themes from the conversation Authenticity and longevity Omar repeatedly returns to the idea that his staying power comes from knowing who he is and refusing to be swayed by fashion, trends, or industry pressure. Creative process He describes songwriting as something that moves through him rather than something he controls mechanically. Some songs arrive quickly; others take years. Musicianship A big part of the discussion centres on the sophistication of his writing, especially his basslines, arrangements, counterpoint, and groove. Adaptability During lockdown, he pivoted into streaming and kept performing, which helped him maintain connection and momentum. Success on his own terms For Omar, success is not yachts or status. It is being able to support his children, keep making music, and continue learning. AI and music He sees AI as both a leveller and a threat: useful in some contexts, but dangerous when it bypasses human craft and the livelihoods of working creatives. Health and discipline He speaks candidly about prostate cancer, the importance of PSA testing, and how Muay Thai supports both his wellbeing and his performance stamina. Takeaways: This podcast episode delves into the essence of constructing a meaningful existence anchored in core values. I had the privilege of conversing with the illustrious musician Omar, whose impact on British soul is profound. We examined the crucial elements necessary for sustaining a creative life, including discipline and resilience. The discussion emphasized the significance of authenticity and individual identity in one's creative journey. Listeners are encouraged to focus on their unique paths rather than engaging in detrimental comparisons with others. The insights provided in this episode serve as a guide for remaining true to oneself amidst the challenges of creativity. Links referenced in this episode: wholecoaching.co.uk omarmusic.co.uk Companies mentioned in this episode: Stevie Wonder Angie Stone Erykah Badu Paula India Ari Legacy Honey Larry Incognito Doris Troy Bob Andy Marcia Griffiths Soul to Soul Cristiano Ronaldo EastEnders Danao

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    March 17 · 44 min· Video

    How to Believe You Can: Self-Efficacy, Confidence, and Growth with Dr Laura Ritchie

    In this episode, I speak with Dr Laura Ritchie about what it really takes to believe in yourself enough to begin. This conversation is especially for people who feel stuck: people who want to grow, change, create, perform, or move towards something meaningful, but who are held back by fear, self-doubt, low confidence, or the feeling that they are not enough. Laura introduces the idea of self-efficacy — the belief that you can do a specific thing — and explains why it is such a vital part of motivation, learning, and achievement. We talk about why some people never begin because the leap from where they are now to where they want to be feels too big, and why the answer is not blind positivity, but learning how to build a path step by step. Together, we explore: what self-efficacy really means why confidence is task-specific why wanting something is not always enough on its own how to start when you do not yet know the whole route why practice is about building reliable pathways how to reflect without collapsing into self-criticism how to separate your identity from your performance why growth can unsettle relationships and existing roles how authenticity helps you build a life that is actually yours This is a warm, intelligent, and deeply practical conversation for anyone trying to become braver, more grounded, and more fully themselves. Dr Laura Ritchie is a chartered psychologist, musician, author, and Professor of Learning and Teaching at the University of Chichester. Her research focuses on psychology, learning, music, and self-efficacy. She is the author of Yes, I Can: Learn to Use the Power of Self-Efficacy, exploring how belief in our abilities shapes motivation, achievement, and personal growth. Links Dr Laura Ritchie https://lauraritchie.com Explore the WHOLE framework https://wholecoaching.co.uk self-efficacy self belief confidence personal growth psychology motivation learning performance psychology authenticity mindset music psychology self development Takeaways: Self-efficacy is fundamentally about one's belief in their capability to perform specific tasks, which is crucial for personal growth and achievement. The journey towards accomplishing a goal often requires the visualization of not just the final destination but also the incremental steps necessary to reach it. It's essential to understand that everyone has unique paths, and one must not compare their journey to that of others, as this can lead to discontent. Effective self-reflection and metacognition are vital for recognizing personal growth and understanding one's skills and limitations in various situations.

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