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What's Next?

Jurie Kriel

NXT Move Podcast is all about what’s next for faith, the church, and the next generation. Through honest conversations on Jesus, culture, and calling, each episode explores how the next generation is shaping the future of the church, with real insight for leaders and dreamers ready for what’s ahead.

Hosted by Jurie Kriel, who leads the NXT Move global community from Austin, Texas, and serves on the Executive Leadership team at Shoreline Church. With decades of experience planting churches across the U.S. and South Africa and leading in 49 countries, Jurie gathers Christian leaders to confront the next generation’s faith crisis and break down the silos holding the church back.

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  • S1 · E8
    Yesterday · 37 min

    The Surprising Power of Sacred Listening in Building Trust and Faith Formation

    Unlock the secret to building trust and meaningful relationships in a world overwhelmed by artificial intelligence and shifting societal norms. Josh Packard, a leading sociologist and founder of Future of Faith, reveals how the future of faith—and indeed all human connection—depends on rediscovering the power of sacred listening. This episode is a game-changer for leaders, pastors, and anyone committed to authentic influence in an authentic age. Josh shares how the decline of institutional trust isn’t a church-specific problem but a cultural shift—trust now resides in personal relationships rather than institutions. He explains how understanding this move enables leaders to adapt their strategy, prioritize relational engagement, and foster trust through genuine listening. You'll discover why trust in technology, media, and even sermons is evolving, and why the most impactful leaders are those who invest time and relational depth over broadcast volume. Whether managing a church, a team, or guiding your own family, this episode reveals how to meet people where they truly are—listening. 00:00 Introduction: Meeting Josh Packard and the Future of Faith 01:13 Josh's Journey: From Sociology to the Future of Faith 04:16 The Story of This Age: AI and the Acceleration of Distrust 09:07 The Blockbuster Principle: Changing Delivery Mechanisms, Not the Goal 12:28 The Five-Decade Decline: Understanding Institutional Trust Loss 14:33 It Wasn't Your Fault: The Church Didn't Break Trust 18:05 Trust Has Relocated: From Institutions to Relationships 19:53 Time, Trust, Truth: The New Order of Ministry Engagement 27:14 Listening is Sacred: Formation Happens in the Moment 35:01 Practical Tools for Relational Ministry: Building What We Need For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/

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  • S1 · E7
    October 20 · 28 min

    Hitting the Bullseye: Innovation, Collaboration, and Faith for the Future

    In this episode, Jurie sits down with Kristen to talk about how organizations can stay mission-focused while adapting to a changing world. They explore the cost of innovation, the power of listening to local voices, and why humility and collaboration are essential for meaningful growth. Kristen also shares powerful insights on generosity, abundance, and the importance of staying deeply rooted in Christ as we step into the future. This conversation is a timely encouragement for leaders, ministry workers, and anyone navigating change with faith and purpose. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: Meeting Kristen and the Heart of EastWest Ministries 03:08 Mission-Driven Innovation: Listening to the Local Church 04:56 Putting Mission Above Method: The Journey of Change 09:03 Counting the Cost: The Price of Innovation 10:27 The Preferred Future: Vision, Obedience, and Managing Risk 12:59 The Art of Collaboration: Bringing the Team Along 17:21 Signs of Hope: Humility and Generosity in Kingdom Work 19:39 Better Together: The Loneliness Epidemic and the Call to Community 22:35 Abundance Over Scarcity: Generosity for the Future 25:59 Deeply Rooted: The Foundation for Bold Steps of Faith

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  • S1 · E6
    October 6 · 38 min

    The Hidden Power of Deep Relationships in Accelerating Gospel Growth

    Unlock the secret to building meaningful relationships in a world more connected—and more disconnected—than ever before. If you're a leader feeling the weight of time scarcity, superficial connections, or the challenge of fostering genuine community, this episode is your game-changer. In a time where digital speed accelerates relationships but often drains their depth, our guests share powerful insights on how to reconnect at a heart level. Discover why true belonging is more vital than ever, and how the church and leaders can foster real connections that transform lives. From navigating the tension of proximity and separation to urging leaders to embody collaboration rooted in Christ's decentralizing mission—this conversation offers practical, biblically grounded strategies for cultivating a culture of authentic relationships. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: Meeting the Team and Setting the Stage 04:34 The Gospel Advances at the Rate of Relationship 05:36 The Struggle: Time Poverty and the Acceleration Problem 10:00 The Loneliness Epidemic: A Crisis of Formation 14:12 The Church's Unique Gift: Offering What the World Cannot 15:00 Digital Nearness Cannot Replace Embodied Community 17:30 From Rows to Circles: Creating Space for Real Connection 18:41 Going to Them: The Incarnation Principle in Evangelism 24:02 Listening Before Speaking: The Power of Being Present 27:01 Collaboration is Co and Labor: Building Kingdom Partnerships 33:17 Better Together: Relationships Deepened Through Shared Mission 35:46 Necessary Endings: What Must Stop for the New to Begin

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  • S1 · E5
    September 22 · 34 min

    Authenticity that Builds Trust with the Next Generation

    In this conversation, Dan Blythe of Alpha Youth explores how faith communities can stay relevant without losing their core mission. From digital change and AI to trust, authenticity, and intergenerational leadership, this episode offers practical insight for reaching the next generation with humility, courage, and clarity. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: Meeting Dan Blythe and the Mission of Alpha Youth 04:21 The Stripped Innocence: How COVID Accelerated Digital Transformation 05:35 The Search for Truth: What Gen Z Really Trusts 10:09 Is It Real? Authenticity in an AI-Generated World 11:16 Unashamed and Online: The Bold Evangelism of Gen Z 13:10 Ancient Truths in Relevant Ways: Using Tools Without Losing Relationship 14:09 Beyond Blockbuster: How Organizations Stay Relevant in Rapid Change 15:55 Clinging to Jesus Tightly, Everything Else Loosely 19:18 The Movies, Not the DVDs: Identifying Your Core Redemptive Gift 22:59 From Controlling to Inspiring: How Leadership Styles Must Evolve 28:14 Teaching Up: The Humility Required for Intergenerational Leadership 29:55 The Emperor's New Clothes: Creating Safe Spaces for Honest Feedback 31:49 Hope and Pause: The Unashamed Generation and the Communication Crisis

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  • S1 · E4
    September 8 · 43 min

    Understanding the Shift: Why the Human Experience Is Changing Faster Than Ever—and What Leaders Must

    The way we live, connect, and find purpose isn’t just evolving—it's transforming at an unprecedented speed. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the relentless pace of technology, shifting identities, and fractured communities, you’re not alone. This episode exposes the deep-rooted changes reshaping humanity—faster than most leaders realize—and reveals practical strategies to lead with authenticity, faith, and impact in a disconnected world. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: The Human Experience in Rapid Transformation 02:45 A Decade of Disruption: How Life Has Changed Since 2015 09:21 The Crisis of Identity: Lost in a Sea of Information 12:25 Overstimulation and Empty Calories: The Digital Dilemma 15:16 The Prodigal Son Image: Showing God's True Character 18:08 The Age of Experience: Creating Authentic Encounters with God 20:56 Getting Back to Basics: Clarity Over Complexity 21:36 Real Relationships: The Walking Word and Mentorship 23:42 Rooted in the Ancient: Finding Identity Beyond the Moment 25:32 Being Real: The Power of Authenticity Over Perfection 27:55 Mastering Technology: Tool or Master 33:17 Social Media Presence: Incarnating Christ in Digital Spaces 36:22 Running to the Fire: Leaders Must Not Give Up 37:52 Final Charge: Fortify Your Spiritual Life and Bring Your Wisdom

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  • S1 · E3
    August 25 · 33 min

    The Surprising Power of Embracing Failure to Lead Through Rapid Change

    In this episode, we explore how rapid change affects leadership and faith, why “yesterday’s logic” can fail us, and how humility, discernment, and a willingness to learn from failure can help leaders move forward with confidence. Join the conversation with Jenn Brown, Dan Blythe, and Lisa Pak to hear practical frameworks, real stories, and a vision for leading with clarity in a world that won’t stop shifting. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: Leading Into the Future of Jesus Following 02:41 The Dizzying Reality: Understanding Rapid Change in Leadership 05:16 The Amateur Leader: Staying a Beginner for the Love of It 06:07 Life is Dynamic: Remembering God is a Living God 08:15 The Cone of the Future: From Probable to Preferred 10:45 Creating Safe Spaces for Failure: The Flight Simulator Principle 12:49 Yesterday's Logic Won't Solve Tomorrow's Problems 15:37 God's Preferred Future: The Ultimate Agent of Change 21:49 The Miraculous Beyond Hard Work: Seeing God's Amplification 25:45 Learning from Failure: Real Stories and Practical Wisdom 29:52 Embracing Imperfection: The Kindness of Learning Lessons 32:58 Closing: Hope in Jesus Christ for the Future

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  • S1 · E2
    August 11 · 32 min

    The Power of Red Phone Friends in Helping Leaders Finish Strong

    Most leaders don't fall in a single catastrophic moment—they drift away through countless tiny decisions. Greg Stier reveals the counterintuitive truth: finishing well isn't about making one big choice, but consistently cultivating dependence on God, humility, and authentic relationships. If you're tired of watching heroes fall and want to understand how true longevity in faith and leadership is forged, this episode is for you. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: The Crisis of Leaders Not Finishing Well 02:33 The Thousand Small Decisions: Understanding How Leaders Fall 04:30 Lust Will Pick a Lock: Why Accountability Alone Isn't Enough 06:55 Cultivating Daily Intimacy with God: The Morning Reset 09:44 Beyond Moral Faithfulness: The Problem of Arrogant Leaders 14:43 The Red Phone Friends: Creating Space for Brutal Honesty 15:54 Marriage in Ministry: Fighting Through to Breakthrough 17:00 Prayer Walking and Intentional Time: Practical Marriage Habits 21:25 The Saturday Night Forgiveness Story: Humility in Action 23:47 Direction Not Intention: Getting Help Before It's Too Late

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  • S1 · E1
    July 28 · 36 min

    Building Well for Enduring Revival: How Roots that Outlive You Impact Future Generations

    Explore how hidden faithfulness, deep roots, and generational thinking prepare us for God’s move. Sam Couper shares why revival isn’t just about sudden moments, but about long-term surrender, friendship, and spiritual foundations that outlast us. For more information and resources, visit: https://www.nxtmove.global/ 00:00 Introduction: Meeting Sam Couper and the Heart for Revival 01:14 Sam's Journey: From Engineering to Leading a Movement 02:24 Defining Revival: An Intensification of the Holy Spirit's Work 03:19 Stories of God's Movement: The Spiritualist on the Bench 05:35 Revival is God's Initiative: Understanding Our Role as Vessels 06:52 The David Principle: God Looks at the Heart, Not Outward Appearance 09:26 Three Layers of Revival Readiness: Personal, Relational, and Missional 13:18 Overcoming Hindrances: Surrender, Brokenness, and Jumping in the River 17:08 God's Redirections Ready Us for Revival: Lessons from Paul's Journey 18:19 Revival Tour Insights: Lessons from Hebrides and Wales 20:13 The Welsh Revival Story: Bend Me, God and the Suddenly Moments 21:50 Building Foundations: Enduring the Gradual to Experience the Suddenly 25:25 The Nehemiah Pattern: Hiddenness, Assessment, and Strategic Building 29:19 What's Next for Sam: The Aspen Tree Leadership Model 33:24 Generational Legacy: Praying for the Third and Fourth Generation 35:26 Breaking the Jar: Creating Space for Suddenly Moments

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