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Hey there. I’m Matty C. For the formally inclined folks in the crowd, the official designation is Matt Carlson. I am a 50 year old musician, songwriter, and graphic designer that's spent the Covid era pondering deep and meaningful questions about music, film, literature and art in the 21st century. It seems as though we’re living in age where musicians have to give their music away, content is around every corner and we don’t seem to really value much of any of it the way we used to. What is it really like to make a living pursuing a life in the arts these days? Why are we seeing a lower percentage of artists in the workforce than at anytime in 100 years? Now, I’ve reached a point of massive change in my life and I am preparing to spend more of my time, and hopefully, generating a portion of my income from my creative endeavors. That’s a terrifying endeavor, but it’s also incredibly exciting. I’ll be discussing these ideas and a whole lot more of my own curiosity and creative endeavors on this platform using the written word, videos, podcasts, music and probably some other assets I learn along the way. I’ll be seeking out smart, and fascinating creatives as they build their own lives while fighting an ever-growing series of new challenges and opportunities. All of these journeys and detours are an effort to share my exploration of culture in the modern world, and to help shine a brighter light on the work I have been doing for years as a musician, designer and podcaster. This discussion is at the very center of our civilization, what it means to be human andhow to find a meaningful way to connect through that shared humanity in the form of artistic expression. Art is at the core of the relationship. Let’s explore it with that context, and that incalculable value, in mind. If you enjoy what you hear on the show, please subscribe to my Substack where I also I post this podcast as well as a variety of essays, video and recordings regularly in my search to find out what art really matters to people right here and right now, and they are willing to do to invest in our culture. Thank you so much for being here. It’s wonderful to have your support. https://whatamimaking.substack.com

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  • Monday · 1 hr 4 min

    WAIM 180: Aaron Lee Tasjan

    Aaron Lee Tasjan was experiencing the worst bout of imposter syndrome of his career when he sat down and wrote Todd Snider a vulnerable email asking for advice. Tasjan, despite writing and recording some of the most astute Americana rock songs of the last decade and being nominated for a Grammy, just didn’t see a future for an independent singer, songwriter, and guitarist like himself. Snider read Tasjan’s email and immediately replied: “I think I have some ideas. I’ll write you back tomorrow.” The next morning, Tasjan awoke to a signature Todd Snider missive for how to move forward as an artist. It was a novel-length email that read like the battle plans for the Invasion of Normandy. The exact specifics don’t matter, but Tasjan devoured his mentor’s words and took them to heart. Within Snider’s email, he reminded Tasjan that, “Songs are like mantras — you’ve got to say them every night,” Tasjan recalls Snider challenging him. “So, what’s in there that you’re repeating every night?” In response to Snider’s query, Tasjan began writing feverishly, unbothered by expectations and immune to any pressure to match his acclaimed albums like In the Blazes, and Karma for Cheap. By the time he had finished, Tasjan had Get Over It, Underdog, his most inspiring LP to date. Produced by Tasjan and his longtime sound engineer Mark Miller, the album is a celebration of the power of songwriting, the unbreakable bond of friendship, and the determination of the dark horse. During our conversation, Aaron and I covered his family’s circuitous moves around the country before settling outside Columbus, OH. We hit upon the diverse music scene within Nashville that extends far beyond country music. Tasjan describes records as being something like a mirror for listeners, leading us to further conversation about the ways in which Aaron connects emotionally with his fanbase. There is also talk of writing bad songs to get to the good ones, as well finding a way to allow our creative selves to be driven by the soul and not the ego. It’s all of this and so much more with me and Aaron Lee Tasjan. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Aaron for joining me. You can find out all about his music, find tour dates and more at his website https://www.aaronleetasjan.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • Friday · 1 hr 7 min

    WAIM 179: Country Singer/Songwriter Arlo McKinley

    Growing up just outside of Cincinnati, Ohio, Arlo McKinley soaked up a hardcore midwestern outlook on the world; one filled with hard work, humble hopes, and good manners. The McKinley family instilled a deep love of country music in young Arlo. The church choir provided some early singing lessons, and eventually McKinley picked up a guitar and slowly learned to pen his own songs. As Arlo developed his own songwriting voice, he eventually found a legendary mentor in John Prine, who signed McKinley to Oh Boy! Records in 2014. Die Midwestern, McKinley’s second album was released in 2020 to critical acclaim. Fader magazine called the album, “... a raw but perfectly balanced album laced with existential crises, addictions, and world-weary resilience.” The songs on Die Midwestern are littered with raw, personal stories that come straight from the life of Arlo McKinley. During our conversation, Arlo and I talked about life on the road in 2026, focusing on his desire to tour in a slower, and calmer manner, which led to further discussion about the temptations of the road and the expectation from fans for the performer to party. We also unpacked some of Arlo’s songwriting practices, and we hit upon the way that grief creeps into a songwriter’s work. We have got all of that and more with the terrific Arlo McKinley. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Arlo for joining me. You can find out all about his music, find tour dates and more at his website https://www.arlomckinley.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 31 · 1 hr 3 min

    WAIM 178: Charlotte Cornfield

    Charlotte Cornfield was raised amidst culture, music, and art in Toronto. Born to a pair of artistically inclined parents, Charlotte was immersed with classical, jazz, and folk albums from birth. She fell in love early with Joni Mitchell, and the deeply involved stories that lay beneath Mitchell’s gorgeous voice. Eventually, Charlotte began playing and writing her own songs while also exploring the vast history of roots music and the legacy and influence of Canadian greats like Mitchell, Neil Young, and Leonard Cohen. By high school, Cornfield was leading a band and performing her own songs. Over the intervening two decades, Charlotte has refined her songwriting and honed her sonic approach, culminating in her newest full length record, Hurts Like Hell. The album is Cornfield’s first release since the birth of her daughter in 2023. During our conversation, we chatted openly about the challenges that Charlotte faces as a mother trying to navigate the world of indie rock. She shares the story of the touring mothers support group chat that she is a part of, which has provided her with a huge network of resources and support since her daughter’s birth. Charlotte and I also talked at length about the ways that she approaches storytelling in her own songwriting, and we geek out over the gloriously awesome Canadian power pop band Sloan. We also talk about the rising tide of so many talented women right now in the world of alt-country and roots music, a phenomenon that Charlotte suggests is largely happening due to the influence and example of the great Lucinda Williams. There is a lot to unpack here. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Charlotte for joining me. You can find out all about her music, find tour dates and more at her website https://charlottecornfield.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 28 · 1 hr 2 min

    WAIM 177: Independent Filmmaker Tommy Nickoloff

    Tommy Nickoloff never set out to be a filmmaker. Growing up in the narrow world of Lorain, Ohio just outside of Cleveland, the arts were something other people did in other places. In Lorain, you worked, you took care of your family, and you did what was expected. Nickoloff’s childhood friend Jason Molina refused to accept that path for himself. From the get go, Nickoloff remembers Molina as something of a different breed, possessing a rare bravery that allowed him to chart his own path. In high school, both Nickoloff and Molina were encouraged by teachers and counselors to go away to college and get out of Lorain. Nickoloff set off across the country, while Molina commuted just a few miles down the road to Oberlin College, which might have been geographically close, but it was a cultural haven miles away to a boy from Lorain. Jason Molina would go on to lead the bands Songs: Ohia and Magnolia Electric Company, which were both anchored by his titanic songwriting. For close to twenty years, Molina cranked out some of the most literate rock and roll of the last half century, until his untimely death at the age of 39. Despite such an early exit, Molina left behind a massive catalog that includes more than 15 studio albums as well as a slew of singles, EPs, and live recordings. Encouraged by a friend to tell Jason’s story, Nickoloff set out to recapture his youth with Jason Molina. The new documentary, You Fuckers Figure It Out is an intimate look at the youths of Molina and Nickoloff. The film paints a vivid portrait of growing up in the post-industrial landscape of northern Ohio at the height of the Reagan era. Tommy and I began talking so quickly that we got ten minutes into the chat before I realized I had not yet hit record. Because of this production gaffe, we missed some of our initial conversation that sets up the relationship between Tommy and Jason. Additionally, we will talk about Jason’s first band, The Spineriders a few times, but the context for that was also lost in the un-taped segment. Regardless, this is an amazing conversation of how Tommy Nickoloff set out to honor the story of his friend and in the end wound up finding his own purpose and path as a filmmaker. Art breeds art, my friends. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Tommy for joining me. You can find out all about his new documentary at https://www.yffio.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 24 · 1 hr

    WAIM 176: Kevin Kinney of Drivin’ & Cryin’

    Kevin Kinney has been singing for himself for more than forty years now. You are welcome to sit and listen, but Kevin will still be singing songs, even if no one else is there to hear them. Kinney first formed Drivin’ & Cryin in the mid-1980s, on a foundation of jangle, grit, and honest storytelling. Kevin describes the band as a “quasi political self help garage rock band.” Growing up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Kinney fell hard for rock and roll at an early age. As a teenager he co-founded a local music zine called The Shepherd Express, and began playing in various bands around town. By the time high school had ended, Kinney was looking for options outside of the confines of Milwaukee, and made his way down to Atlanta where he would eventually start Drivin’ & Cryin’. After more than four decades as the head of Drivin’ & Cryin’, Kevin Kinney is just now learning to get better at being himself. He no longer feels the need to prove his worth to others in the industry, saying, “I am not fucking auditioning anymore. I am presenting.” This newfound confidence has been borne out in the form of Drivin’ & Cryin’s terrific new record, Crushing Flowers. During our conversation, Kevin and I chat about his long career, including many of the big names with whom he has collaborated. We cover his Wisconsin childhood, the evolution of his songwriting, and Kevin even shares the beautiful story of the song on the new album about his mother’s battle with Alzheimer’s. In addition to a tremendously thoughtful and fulsome discussion, Kevin even shares a brand new song that he wrote for a veteran’s group to help prevent suicide amongst military vets. There is a whole bunch packed into this one. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Kevin for joining me. You can find out all about his work at https://www.drivinncryin.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 21 · 1 hr 8 min

    WAIM 175: Kerry Alexander of Bad Bad Hats

    Kerry Alexander takes full advantage of being out on the road as a touring musician. Despite nearly fifteen years touring in her band, Bad Bad Hats, Alexander is still always on the lookout for the next grand adventure, or seeking out a meal worth remembering. Alexander and her bandmates see touring not just as an opportunity to see America, but as a chance to genuinely experience this country and all that it has to offer. Although she was born in the Twin Cities, Kerry Alexander spent the bulk of her formative years in the south, splitting time between Alabama and Florida. By the age of 13, Alexander had begun teaching herself guitar, an endeavor which quickly led to writing her own songs. Kerry returned to the Minneapolis/St. Paul region to attend school at McAllister College. While at McAllister, Alexander began sharing her songs on MySpace, leading to her to meet Chris Hoge, a fellow sophomore also sharing his original songs. Almost immediately, the pair began collaborating musically, and struck up a romantic relationship. Alexander and Hoge, now married, still remain the creative center of Bad Bad Hats. During our conversation, Kerry and I covered her early forays into music and songwriting, including that first MySpace encounter with Chris. We discussed the ways to find joy and excitement while touring the roads of America, including how Bad Bad Hats make the most of their tour rider funds to sample the best cuisine that each city has to offer. We also discussed the intimate glory of house concerts, the wages of online self-promotion, and we even looked at how Alexander runs her band just like a business. Let’s get into it. Cheers,Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Kerry for joining me. You can find out all about Kerry and her work at https://www.badbadhats.com/ and you can snag her terrific records wherever you get your music. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 17 · 1 hr 4 min

    WAIM 174: Singer/Songwriter Laura Veirs

    As Laura Veirs set out to make her new album, Temple Songs, she committed to the idea of making a record with no masters. She chose not to use a producer and opted to play and record all of the instruments in her home studio, The Temple Of Bloom. Unsure if she had the chops or the technical acumen to pull off a full record of songs completely by herself, Veirs pieced Temple Songs together one take at a time, using a set of guidelines that would help to keep her work focused and grounded. The result is a resplendent album of gorgeous folk tunes that play as much like a family photo album as they do songs on a record. Veirs was powered to take this bold artistic leap after a difficult divorce and an unexpected love affair that led to her second marriage. There was even a time when Veirs saw herself never getting married again, but life has a way of surprising us. Day to day life at the Veirs household is a somewhat chaotic affair with a quartet of teenagers living with Laura and her husband. With a new record in the can and ready to roll, Laura Veirs is about to hit the road for several weeks of touring across the UK and the US throughout the summer and fall of this year. Laura and I discussed the realities of the road in 2026 as costs for gas, food and lodging all continue to creep northward. We also talk about the beauty of the simple house concert, and we cover some of the harsh truths of living on the road for long stretches of time. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Laura for joining me. You can find out all about Laura and her work at https://www.lauraveirs.com/ and you can snag her terrific records wherever you get your music. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 14 · 1 hr 12 min

    WAIM 173: Artist Wayne White

    Wayne White knew he had an artistic gift at a very early age. By the time he was in first grade, White had begun making drawings of The Beatles and selling them to kids for a portion of their lunch money. At six years old, Wayne White had made his first dollar in the art world, and in many ways he never looked back. While Wayne was certainly blessed with innate talent, growing up in rural Tennessee meant there were no outlets for a creative kid. Wayne tried his best to play the role of athlete, largely to impress his father who was also a coach, but his athletic prowess was mediocre at best. Eventually, by middle school, White began engaging fully in his artistic inclinations, making a path for Middle Tennessee State University as soon as he had finished high school. The University offered little more than a basic arts program, but for Wayne it was the first time he had been around a group of people who were also motivated and energized by visual art. After finishing his degree and then working in the Nashville advertising scene for a year, White set off for New York City to try and make a name for himself. For more than three years, White worked day jobs while scratching out creative work on the side. He helped to make ends meet by performing underground puppet shows at events and parties. Eventually, this work dovetailed perfectly with a new kids show that was in production for CBS. Wayne White would go on to be a key member of Pee Wee’s Playhouse, building puppets, set pieces, and other ephemera for the entirety of the show’s run. In addition to his puppetry and his work on Pee Wee, Wayne White has become legendary for his thrift store word paintings, where he takes a second hand painting and adds hand lettering, often with satirical or snarky messaging to create a whole new piece of art. White initially thought that these paintings were nothing more than a lark, until he staged a show at a local cafe, which in turn led to a proper gallery showing, and eventually a full show and a massive retrospective book called Maybe Now I’ll Get The Respect I So Richly Deserve, which was done in collaboration with the designer Todd Oldham. With a cache of incredible visual work in his catalog, Wayne White was even the subject of the 2012 documentary, Beauty Is Embarrassing, a lovely portrait that is a combination of White’s personal and artistic journey as well as his artistic philosophy and workflow. During our conversation, Wayne and I cover the allure of used things and we dive into the beauty of junk. Wayne shares his battle with overthinking things, and he even shares some advice on listening to the process when doing creative work. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Wayne for joining me. You can find out all about Wayne and his work at https://www.waynewhiteart.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 10 · 1 hr 5 min

    WAIM 172: Queer Country Crooner Andrew Sa

    Andrew Sa grew up under the spectre of country music. Growing up in Fremont, California, some of Sa’s most intense childhood memories revolve around the family crammed into his father’s F150 pickup listening to Top 40 country radio allowing him to soak up the likes of Reba McEntire and Dolly Parton. Sa’s grandparents kept a collection of cassette tapes at their home, and Andrew always found himself gravitating to the saddest songs in the Patsy Cline collection. Something haunting, yet alluring lay within the grooves of those records, and Sa was fascinated to find out the truth about it. As an adult, Sa followed the path of love to find himself in Chicago where he set about taking classes at the famed Old Town School of Folk Music. In Chicago, Sa began to invest himself deeply into the art of songwriting. He also found himself developing an intense bond and friendship with country singer and songwriter, Patrick Haggerty, a trailblazer in the world of queer country. Haggerty’s early 70’s LP Lavender Country served as a major influence for Sa, who was also shaped immensely by Haggerty’s experiences and advice. Andrew Sa’s debut record, American Rough was issued in late June on Bloodshot Records. That album is a culmination of years and years of work and rework. Sa was deliberate in the release of his album, taking a full year to shop it around and find the perfect home for its release. The record itself is a gorgeous, seemingly timeless affair that recalls notes of Roy Orbison, KD Lang, and The Everly Brothers. During our conversation, Sa and I talked about the immense impact his collaborators have had on the album. We talk at length about the contributions of the album’s producer H.C. McEntire who helped to shape Sa’s songs into a cohesive sonic piece. There is also talk of the queer country scene in Chicago, including Sa’s own Lavender Prairie Fest that he has spearheaded for the last several years. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Andrew for joining me. You can find his new album, American Rough wherever you get your music. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 7 · 1 hr 12 min

    WAIM 171: Singer/Songwriter Johanna Samuels

    Johanna Samuels’ terrific new album, Sorry, Kid was anything but a straightforward endeavor. After recording and then scrapping eight songs, Samuels considered walking away entirely. Filled with frustration and uncertainty, Johanna attended a New Year’s Eve singalong at the home of producer Jonathan Rado and his wife Jackie. Between piano renditions of Ben Kweller tunes, the idea of recording together surfaced organically. Samuels already had the songs. Rado, who has produced albums for Weyes Blood, The Killers, and Father John Misty had the right instincts to build a sonic world around them. Sorry, Kid culls from twenty years’ worth of Samuels’ songwriting life. While the album includes brand new material, it also features reworked tunes that had germinated as early as 2007. With Rado at the controls, and with contributions from pals like Madison Cunningham, Courtney Marie Andrews, and Tyler Ballgame, Sorry, Kid stands as a testament to the glory of making records with your best friends. During our conversation, Johanna shares details of her life growing up in a Hollywood family, and we unpack some of the connections she has to her Jewish past. Johanna talks about how she learned to give herself permission to follow in the steps of heroes like Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, and Leonard Cohen, gradually learning that dudes were not the only ones that could write a great song. We also cover the incredible cache of talented women currently working in the worlds of alt-country and folk music, many of whom Johanna counts as friends. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Johanna for joining me. Her new album Sorry, Kid is available on August 14 wherever you get your music. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • August 3 · 1 hr 3 min

    WAIM 170: John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats

    John Darnielle never set out to be an indie rock icon. Long before his band, The Mountain Goats were a household name in indie rock circles, Darnielle was an unlicensed nurse working in various psychiatric wards in his home state of California. While working full time, Darnielle also pursued a bachelor’s degree at Pitzer College. Throughout his studies and nursing work, Darnielle also managed to carve out time to write and record his own songs, ultimately attracting the attention of Shrimper Records which led to the release of Darnielle’s first collection of songs, a cassette tape released called Taboo IV:The Homecoming. Over the next ten years, Darnielle found a way to balance his nursing duties with occasional touring stints and time for recording. He managed to find time for all of these disparate pursuits until 2003 when it became clear that music was paying much better than nursing. Since committing himself to music full time, Darnielle has seen a surge in admiration and audiences alike. His band have amassed an enormous, and impressive catalog that includes 24 studio albums, including the forthcoming LP Days which arrives on August 7. In addition to his prolific work in The Mountain Goats, Darnielle has turned to the written word as a major form of self-expression. His authordom began in 2008 with a fictional story centered around the Black Sabbath album, Master Of Reality. In the intervening years, Darnielle has gone on to pen a trio of novels, one of which was nominated for a prestigious Edgar Award. During our fascinating conversation, Darnielle unpacks his early life, which was dominated by an abusive step-father, and paints a vivid picture of his life as a nurse before rock and roll came calling full time. We explore the road that Darnielle’s spirituality has taken, including his return to the traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church. This is a riveting conversation with one of the brightest creative minds in the country. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to John for joining me. You can find out The Mountain Goats work wherever you get your music, and be sure to pick up a copy of John’s books at your favorite local bookseller. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 31 · 1 hr 10 min

    WAIM 169: Singer/Songwriter Thomm Jutz

    Thomm Jutz did not make his way to Nashville along the usual path. Growing up in the Black Forest of West Germany, an eleven year old Thomm saw American country star Bobby Bare on TV and instantly began a lifelong love affair with country and American roots music. Jutz gradually mastered the guitar and even began to pen his own songs, always dreaming of a move to America. In 2003, Jutz entered and won a lottery for a Green Card, which allowed him to work and live in the United States. He and his wife were able to move to Nashville, and would eventually become naturalized US citizens by 2008. During his 20 plus years in the States, Jutz has worked regularly as a sideman, touring the country with artists like Nancy Griffith, Mary Gauthier, and Kim Richey, as well as playing on myriad recording sessions. Jutz has also become one of Nashville’s most trusted sonic collaborators as he has produced albums by Nanci Griffith, Bill Anderson, Todd Snider, and Mac Wiseman. While the sideman and production gigs were bringing in steady work, Jutz longed to focus on his own songs. In 2023, he released Nothing But Green Willow: The Songs of Mary Sands and Jane Gentry, and has since followed it up with 2026’s Ring-A-Bellin’, an album and companion book that apply Jungian psychology and alchemical stages to the songwriting process. In addition to all of his writing, recording, and production work, Jutz is also a professor of songwriting at Nashville’s Belmont University. During our discussion, we talk about the changing state of the music industry and the ways that these cultural and economic shifts are affecting Thomm’s young songwriting students. We also explore the crucial importance of musical history, learning to listen deeply, and the idea of giving yourself permission to be an artist. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Thomm for joining me. You can find out all about his work at https://www.thommjutz.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 27 · 1 hr 2 min

    WAIM 168: King Tuff

    Kyle Thomas is a musical lifer. Best known to audiences under the moniker King Tuff, Thomas first heard the siren call of rock and roll as a young child when he was given his first record player. That simple gift was a sort of rosetta stone moment for Kyle that led to an existence fueled by the power of rock and roll. Growing up in Brattleboro, Vermont, Thomas began playing in bands at a very early age, immersing himself in the world of hardcore. By the time he had reached the end of high school, Kyle was exploring American underground bands like The Modern Lovers, and soaking up The Smiths. Soon, he began working under the moniker King Tuff and began his own record label, MUP in 2005. For the last two decades King Tuff has churned out some of the most exciting and interesting records in the world of indie rock. Refusing to be pinned down with a narrow genre definition, Thomas continues to draw his own connections between seemingly disparate sonic worlds as he easily meshes elements of folk, power pop, southern rock, and even metal into his work. During our conversation, Kyle shares some of the evolution behind his sound, including the ways he has seen his songwriting change and mature. We cover some of the massive changes in the music industry since Kyle first started some 20 years ago, as we dive deep into the rising costs of touring. Kyle also shares why most venues suck, and he reminds us all of the importance of the album cover, even in the age of spotify. Kyle Thomas has not only built an impressive legacy of recorded work, he is also an incredibly affable dude that I found to be a delight. He is, in short, a great hang. So come join me and King Tuff as we talk Vermont, psych-folk, musical Yodas and so much more. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Kyle for joining me. You can find King Tuff’s work wherever you get your music. Please buy local whenever you’re able. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 24 · 1 hr 7 min

    WAIM 167: Film Historian Dr. Gail Crowther

    Dorothy Parker was one of America’s greatest wits, and one of its finest writers. Born into privilege, Parker lived a life of contrasts. Her scathing wit and razor sharp humor made her famous, but that quick tongue shielded a low self-esteem. At the height of her powers, Parker found herself the de facto leader of the famous Algonquin Round Table, a weekly collection of intellectuals and writers at the center of Manhattan’s cultural elite. Yet she often looked down upon the Round Table, seeing it as little more than tawdry entertainment. Film historian, and author Dr. Gail Crowther’s new book, Dorothy Parker In Hollywood charts the path of Parker’s journey west in search of work and a new life in the Los Angeles sunshine. The book takes a deep look at Parker’s strained familial relationships, and wrestles with the author’s destructive relationship with alcohol. Crowther also paints an excellent portrait of Parker’s personal life that was largely fueled by the affection and assistance of her husband, Alan Campbell. Activism was a central part of Parker’s entire adult life, working with left-wing causes to fight against fascism in Spain and then in Italy and Germany. Parker also devoted much of her life to the struggle for civil rights in America, and even bequeathed her estate to Martin Luther King, Jr. after her death. In fact, her dedication to various progressive causes was so intense that she was surveilled by the FBI for years and was even blacklisted for a time. Whether she was fighting fascism, battling bigotry, or trading barbs at the Round Table, Dorothy Parker always punched up. Join me and Dr. Gail Crowther as we take a fulsome at Dorthty Parker in Hollywood and beyond. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Gail for joining me. You can find her new book, Dorothy Parker In Hollywood wherever you get your books. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 20 · 57 min

    WAIM 166: John Gallagher, Jr.

    John Gallagher, Jr. is a true 21st century, multi-hyphenate. Cinephiles and television aficionados will recognize him from his various screen roles that include The Newsroom, Short Term 12, and Westworld. Those more familiar with the world of Broadway probably know Gallagher from his work in the hit musical Spring Awakening, for which he won a Tony. Folks with their ear tuned toward the indie rock underworld can also find John hard at work as an excellent singer and songwriter. Gallagher grew up the son of musicians who opened up a whole world of creativity and expression early in their son’s life. As a child, John fell in love with acting. He quickly found himself booking paying gigs, eventually landing in New York where he connected with the creators of a new musical called Spring Awakening that would eventually go on to win a trio of Tony Awards, and take Broadway by storm. This critical and commercial success on Broadway led to a host of on-screen opportunities for Gallagher, including the role of Jim Harper on HBO’s The Newsroom. Despite all of his acting success, John continued to hone his chops as a songwriter and singer. In 2016, he released his debut album Six Day Hurricane under the moniker Johnny Gallagher. While maintaining a very busy day job on set, Gallagher released two more full length albums, 8th and Jane in 2021 and Goodbye or Something in 2024. As his third LP was set to enter the world, Gallagher also found himself hard at work on Swept Away, a new musical built around the songs of The Avett Brothers. The production was set to open in November of 2024 and it seemed poised for a massive run. With a new album in hand, and a soon to be hit show on the horizon, John Gallagher, Jr. was riding high. Sadly, things don’t always go according to plan. Despite critical acclaim, Swept Away failed to move enough tickets and its run was cut short after just a few weeks in production. Meanwhile, John’s new album Goodbye or Something had also failed to make much of a mark on the cultural landscape. Two years later, things have brightened significantly for Gallagher. His new EP, Almost OK began as an imagined two song 7-inch, but has blossomed into something more significant. With notes of wrecked romances, paranoia, depression, and seismic life changes, Almost OK plays like a shimmering diary filled with regret, hope, and vulnerability. There are notes of power pop, Laurel Canyon folk, and even a dash of Dad Rock all lending these five songs a sense of playfulness that belies many of its heavier lyrical themes. This is a fascinating conversation that not only hits upon John’s journey in acting and music, it covers the magical power of live performance, and so much more. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to John for joining me. You can find his new EP, Almost OK wherever you get your music. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 17 · 1 hr 13 min

    WAIM 165: Music Historian Kent Hartmann

    Music historian and author, Kent Hartmann describes his pair of books about the Los Angeles music scene of the 1960s and 1970s, as the AM and FM sides of LA. The Wrecking Crew: The Inside Story of Rock and Roll’s Best-Kept Secret is a deep dive into the origin story and artistry of the legendary backing band that played on hundreds of top 40 hits. Goodnight LA focuses on Los Angeles in the 1970s, and the handful of studios that gave the city its signature sound. This pair of terrific tomes captures the impact, experimentation, and influence that Los Angeles has had on modern American music. During our discussion, Kent charts out some of the luminaries that were a part of the Wrecking Crew including Hal Blaine, Carol, Kaye, Glen Campbell, and Leon Russell. We look at how the efficiency and creativity of these players made them a hot commodity, and how they helped to shape the sound of American music as they recorded countless hits with The Beach Boys, The Monkees, The Mamas & The Papas, The Carpenters, Frank Sinatra, and hundreds more. Shifting into the FM side of the discussion, Kent and I focus on a handful of the studios that forged the now famed Los Angeles sound of the 1970s. Acts like Tom Petty, Loggins & Messina, Fleetwood Mac, Warren Zevon, and Linda Ronstadt crafted punchy, polished recordings that brought hit after hit. Much of that sound was shaped by backing players like Waddy Wachtel, and by the engineers and producers working daily in studios like Sound City and Sunset Sound. While many might see Los Angeles as just a movie town, its impact on our American musical landscape has been massive. Kent Hartmann’s work on The Wrecking Crew and Goodnight LA has helped to shine a light on the often overlooked artistry of session musicians and given us a window into a vast and varied musical scene that is still evolving some fifty years on. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Kent for joining me. Please go grab a copy of The Wrecking Crew and Goodnight LA wherever you get your books. Always shop local if you can. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 13 · 1 hr 5 min

    WAIM 164: Alan Sparhawk of Low

    Alan Sparhawk came of age in rural Northwestern Minnesota, the son of a construction worker, part-time farmer, and occasional musician. While music was a regular presence in the house, farm life didn’t provide for much cultural exploration, until Sparhawk found himself at college in the city of Duluth where he was able to gain access to a world with movies, music, and other folks interested in music and culture. For a time, Alan began playing in Zen Identity, a band based out of Superior, WI. After bassist John Nichols joined the band, he and Sparhawk began joking about starting a new band that was completely different from what was happening on the top of the charts. Formed in the wake of the alternative revolution led by Nirvana and Pearl Jam, Low set out to play a quieter, slower, and more intentional kind of rock and roll. Focusing on slower tempos, stripped down arrangements, and quietly beautiful harmonies, Low excelled at bringing out the most essential elements within a song. This deliberate approach was eventually dubbed “Slowcore” by the indie music press, and Low found themselves often lumped in with bands like Bedhead, Codeine, and Ida to name a few. While this label largely fits, the feature that truly sets Low apart as a band, even within the Slowcore movement, is the gorgeous voice of drummer, Mimi Parker Sparhawk and Parker had been married for some time, and had even played together casually around the house, but Alan admits having to coax Mimi into joining the band. It’s marvelous that he did, for her talent was undeniable. Together, their two voices soar across the entirety of the Low catalog, which includes 13 full length albums, 10 EPs, and a cache of singles and live recordings. Low found themselves critical darlings, and toured across the world for nearly 30 years. They are one of America’s great independent bands. Tragically, Low came to an end in 2022, when Mimi Parker lost her battle with cancer. During our chat, Alan and I talk about the grief that he has endured since losing his wife. We also discuss the joys of working with Mimi, who often nailed vocal recordings in a single take despite feeling sheepish about performing. We also cover the math teacher/nun who sold Alan his first bass amp, and we even unravel how to find the spark for a song. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Alan for joining me. You can find out all about his work in Low and his new solo musical efforts at https://www.alansparhawk.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 10 · 1 hr 3 min

    WAIM 163: Alex Amen

    Alex Amen has gotten a lot of mileage from his brief time on the planet. Although he wasn’t born until 1999, Amen has already lived on both of America’s coasts, and explored much of its rugged natural beauty. He has spent time living in a commune, made his home on an island, and even scaled some of the west coast’s most intimidating mountains as a free climber. Amen has packed all of this life and more into the 9 years since he first left his Gulf Coast hometown in Texas in the hopes of finding a brighter, and bigger world than he could in Sugarland. Having garnered all of these life experiences before the age of 30 gives Amen the vibe of an old soul. Alex brings this same timeless approach and attitude to his debut album, Sun of Amen, out now on ATO Records. The album’s ten songs play like a lost folk-country classic that hangs like a ghost freed from time. There are nods to Gordon Lightfoot, Jim Croce, and John Denver, but Amen never loses the power and purpose of his own voice. During our discussion, Amen shares what a powerful influence John Denver’s songs were as a kid travelling to the Colorado Rocky Mountains with his family. We cover the limitations of his hometown and the pathway that he found to a bigger world. There are stories of climbing the Sierra Nevadas, forays in film school, and even finding a commune in the middle of Anaheim, California in 2017. This is a fascinating conversation with a young artist who is wise beyond his years, and who has lived more life in 27 years than most folks do in a lifetime. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Alex for joining me, you can find his new album Sun of Amen wherever you get your music, and check out his website at https://alexamen.com/ for more info. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 6 · 1 hr

    WAIM 162: Stephin Merritt of The Magnetic Fields

    Stephin Merrit is one of the most esteemed songwriters alive today. For three and half decades he has been the singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and vocalist at the heart of the New York based band, The Magnetic Fields. The band was formed in 1991 by Merrit and his friend and musical collaborator Claudia Gonson. Over the next five years The Magnetic Fields would release a quintet of excellent albums built around Merrit’s genre-fluid songs, and unique arrangements that often featured cello, ukulele, hand percussion, noisemakers, and other unusual instrumentation. Things changed completely in 1999 with the release of the now infamous 69 Love Songs, a towering three record set of tunes that pushed and pulled at the seams of what makes up a love song. The triple album was an unexpected hit with critics and audiences alike, thrusting Merrit into a new spotlight with praise flowing from outlets like The New York Times, which just counted Merrit as one of the 30 greatest living American songwriters, as well as The New Yorker, Rolling Stone, and NPR. While The Magnetic Fields continues to be an ongoing entity, Merrit has also branched out in his creative work with forays into composing for musical theater, scoring for films, and even writing a book of poetry. Merrrit also writes and records music with a pair of other bands, The Gothic Archies and Future Bible Heroes. During our conversation, Merrit and I discuss his itinerant upbringing with a single mother, and he shares some of his earliest musical memories. We also delve into Merrit’s unique writing style, and the way that he hangs on to his melodies after he writes them, all based around an important lesson that he gleaned from Swedish greats, ABBA. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Stephin for joining me. You can find his work in The Magnetic Fields wherever you get your music, and check out their website at http://www.houseoftomorrow.com/magneticfields for more info on the band and Stephin’s ongoing work. The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

  • July 3 · 1 hr 17 min

    WAIM 161: Author Mike Miley on David Lynch's America

    David Lynch is a director known to spark wildly different reactions from cinephiles and movie fans. There are legions of fans who claim Lynch as one of the great American auteurs, and see him as one of the finest filmmakers that the world has ever produced. There are also those that will stand tall and proud to proclaim Lynch a cinematic charlatan, and nothing more than a self indulgent weirdo filming his most outlandish fantasies. But say what you will of his work, David Lynch was a completely unique voice in the history of cinema. Author and film scholar Mike Miley has taken on the herculean task of unpacking Lynch’s work, its origins, and its impacts on American culture. His new book, David Lynch’s American Dreamscape takes a deep look at the ways that Lynch was a master at showing us the underbelly of a seemingly idyllic American existence, one filled with cherry pie, carefree teenagers, and white picket fences. Author, and friend of the pod, Sarah Kendzior has also written deeply about the ways that Laura Palmer’s arc in Twin Peaks serves as an allegory for the Epstein Scandal and America’s rampant mistreatment of women. Miley and I dive deep into Lynch’s world to learn where the filmmaker found the fuel for his completely singular cinematic sensibility. We explore the impacts that Lynch has had not just on the film world, but also in the realms of music and literature. Miley also paints a direct line between Lynch’s filmic outlook and some of the sacred texts of children’s literature. Before we even get into the subject at hand, Mike and I begin the conversation with a chat about him seeing the Jason Narducy and Michael Shannon band playing R.E.M.’s Life’s Rich Pageant album, which eventually leads to some chatter about Wilco and even a bit of discussion on the state of modern day Dad rock. Rest assured, we get to the Lynch stuff after just a few minutes. So, please buckle up, this is a fascinating chat that looks deeply and thoughtfully at one of the most original artists this country has ever produced. Here now are me and author Mike Miley on David Lynch, America, and more. Let’s get into it. Cheers, Matty C ------------------------- End Credits Thanks so much to Mike for joining me, you can find his new book David Lynch’s American Dreamscape online at the link in the show notes. You can learn more about Mike and all of his work at https://www.mikemiley.com/ The What Am I Making podcast is hosted, written, and produced by me, Matty C. Our theme music was written and recorded by David J. Baldwin. You can subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Please be sure to like, rate and review the show if you enjoy it. Our work is solely sponsored by listeners and readers like you. Please lend your support today with a paid subscription at whatamimaking.substack.com/. Now is a crucial time for new paid subscribers. Please step up and support the show. You can email the show anytime at whatamimakingblog@gmail.com. You can also leave us a voicemail with your questions or concerns at speakpipe.com/whatamimaking Get full access to What Am I Making at whatamimaking.substack.com/subscribe

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