
Shubha Sunder - The Push and Pull of Constructing a Life
Second of four in the Upstart Crow–Fairfax County Public Library Interview Series, celebrating America's 250th anniversary. More information about the series and upcoming interviews is available below. If a person has room and time to choose where and how to construct a life, what will they choose? How aware will they be of the process before, during, and after? How much awareness does it take to make wise choices? How will the person deal with the consequences of choosing? These are the overarching questions that run through the books of Shubha Sunder. Her stories are low-key and calm, but they bring to the forefront major decisions by individuals—decisions that stem from their past, determine their future, and limit their further options. In her first book, a collection of short stories titled Boomtown Girl, set in her native Bangalore, India, Sunder dramatizes ordinary lives in the 1990s in a part of India poised to jump into the anachronisms of the twenty-first century. The region would become India's Silicon Valley, even as the name of her hometown shifted from the Anglicized Bangalore to the more historic Bengaluru. These are everyday choices with big consequences: parents who overindulge their children; adults who move between the United States and India in search of better opportunities; children who want to attend college in the States but whose parents cannot afford it—or who don't have the grades; and young adults caught between letting their parents arrange their marriages and choosing for themselves the person with whom they will spend the rest of their lives. Quiet acts, but consequential ones. Now shift time forward. Take one of those young women and bring her to the United States, where she has earned her undergraduate degree and is staying for a year of Optional Practical Training—the title of Sunder's first novel and the program her central character enters after graduation. Framed almost entirely through conversations, the novel depicts the choices and challenges involved not so much in starting over as in simply getting started. Vulnerabilities abound in both the stories and the novel. Sunder captures her characters in those significant moments of vulnerability that accompany making choices—experiences shared by people everywhere. Shubha Sunder is a 2025 Whiting Award winner. Her collection of stories, Boomtown Girl, won the 2021 St. Lawrence Book Award, and her novel, Optional Practical Training, won the 2025 New American Voices Award and was a finalist for the Center for Fiction First Novel Prize. She lives in Boston and teaches in the creative writing MFA program at the University of Massachusetts, Boston. Key Takeaways • Home is not necessarily a fixed place. Sunder explores how the meaning of home changes as people move between countries, cultures, and different stages of life. • Immigration is an internal experience as much as an external one. The choices, questions, and evolving sense of identity that accompany immigration can be just as significant as the practical challenges of moving to another country. • Constructing a life involves vulnerability. Even people who appear confident and capable are often navigating uncertainty, competing expectations, and difficult decisions. • Opportunity and privilege are not the same as security. Even immigrants who have education, resources, and a legal path to remain in the United States can face considerable uncertainty. • Conversations can reveal character and move a story forward. Sunder explains how the unconventional structure of Optional Practical Training, told almost entirely through conversations, allows readers to understand her protagonist through the people she encounters. • Cultural expectations are constantly evolving. Through the characters in Boomtown Girl, Sunder examines the changing expectations surrounding marriage, family, education, ambition, and personal independence in 1990s Bangalore. • A writer's perspective can change over time. Sunder discusses how writing short stories about her native India helped prepare her to write about the immigrant experience in the United States. • Identity and belonging are ongoing negotiations. The experience of becoming an immigrant involves continually reassessing one's relationship with the place left behind and the place chosen as home. Topics Discussed • Growing up in Bangalore and the city's transformation during India's economic liberalization in the 1990s • The cultural shifts between traditional Indian family expectations and emerging Western influences • The characters and stories in Boomtown Girl, including questions of arranged marriage, family responsibility, ambition, and opportunity • The vulnerability of people navigating major life decisions • The challenges of writing a novel after developing as a short-story writer • The unconventional conversational structure of Optional Practical Training • The experience of an immigrant coming to America by choice rather than fleeing war or oppression • The meaning of home, identity, and belonging • The role of privilege, education, and opportunity in the immigration experience • Sunder's completed second novel, Conditional Permanent Residency, and her developing third novel, Alien Naturalization • Audience questions about revisiting earlier work, identity, and what readers take away from a book A Few Memorable Thoughts from the Conversation "Home is an idea and it's fungible." "I was interested in this experience of the privileged immigrant." "The inner wrestlings, the choices we make either consciously or unconsciously." "The things that people say to us and about us are how we construct our identities." About the Upstart Crow–Fairfax County Public Library Interview Series This four-part interview series marks America's 250th anniversary. The first episode, an interview with Lois Romano about her book Mary Todd Lincoln: An Inconvenient Widow, is available through the Upstart Crow podcast channels and the Fairfax County Public Library YouTube channel. Two more interviews remain in the series: Valerie Tripp – Tuesday, November 10, at 6:30 p.m. Tripp talks with host Jennifer Disano about writing historical fiction for young readers and why these stories matter so much. The Upstart Crow episode will be available November 17. Jane Kamensky – Wednesday, November 18, at 6:30 p.m. Kamensky, president and CEO of Thomas Jefferson's Monticello and a historian, talks with host Ken Budd about her recent book, Declare: A Civil Gospel, focusing on the founding generation and civic discourse. The Upstart Crow episode will be available November 25. You can register to livestream the interviews through Fairfax County Public Library. Find Out More Visit Shubha Sunder's website to learn more about her writing and publications. Learn more about Optional Practical Training through Graywolf Press. Visit UpstartCrow.org for more information about our hosts, guests, upcoming events, and ways you can support the show. Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Watch the full interview and clips on our YouTube channel. Follow Upstart Crow podcast on Facebook and stay connected with our latest episodes and events. Recorded and Produced by Jon D PodCom of Old Hundred Productions LLC. Upstart Crow is part of Watershed Lit Radio. 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