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Unicorn CISO

Pedro @ 33N

Unicorn CISO covers discussions with CISOs from tech unicorns, working on the frontier of cybersecurity while balancing business speed.

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  • 7 episodes
  • fortnightly
  • Avg 31 min
  • English
  • September 17 · 32 min

    Isaac Shahar (CISO at ebury)

    We catch up with Isaac Shahar, VP Security and CISO at Ebury, on what it takes to secure cross-border payments while a fintech scales fast under bank-level expectations. We dig into auditability, M&A integration, AI risk, and why fraud and cyber teams work best when they triage together from minute one. • building a career perspective from hacking to threat research to global banking scale • securing a multi-jurisdiction payments business while aligning with a parent bank’s standards • getting security into the M&A deal cycle early and planning Day 1 controls plus long-term integration • shifting from “having controls” to continuously proving controls with evidence across auditors • preparing for IPO-style accountability and tighter processes around assets and materiality • using AI in SecOps with strict scope and data controls, especially during incident response • deciding between platform consolidation and best-of-breed tools with real-world constraints • defining AI ownership, governance, and model inventory as the first bottleneck • building a fraud and cyber fusion workflow to reduce wasted time in early triage • balancing startup advising with the CISO role while avoiding conflicts of interest

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  • S1 · E6
    July 2 · 29 min

    Carlos Garcia (Head Cybersecurity at Solaris)

    We talk with Carlos Garcia, Head of Cyber at Solaris Bank, about leading security through rapid transformation while keeping risk grounded in what can break today. We dig into how AI changes software supply chain security, identity governance, and fraud, and what practical controls still work in a regulated bank. • moving from cloud-native speed to regulated banking process and why compliance becomes a security foundation • using company transformation to build a proactive security posture without losing focus on present-day attacks • why AI-assisted coding blurs internal vs third-party code and raises supply chain risk • practical supply chain controls: pause auto updates, review new libraries, use internal registries • transitive dependencies explained and why SBOM visibility matters for modern AppSec • non-human identities, tokens, and why AI agents create new rotation and tracking problems • governance and observability for AI agents using existing security signals across code and network • assigning human responsibility, audit trails, and “know your agent” as a future trust model • evaluating new security vendors for regulated environments beyond the product demo • biggest near-term worries: supply chain compromise and AI-driven fraud like voice cloning

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  • S1 · E5
    June 22 · 33 min

    Mandy Andress (CISO Elastic)

    We sit down with Mandy Andres, CISO of Elastic, to map how AI is reshaping security programs and why business fluency matters as much as technical depth. We dig into visibility, identity sprawl, agent behavior, and what CISOs can do right now to manage risk at machine speed. • Mandy’s path from accounting and auditing to security leadership • Elastic’s security scope across enterprise, product security, and SaaS infrastructure • Why visibility and asset management stay the hardest foundational problem • Shadow SaaS turning into shadow AI and the return to DNS, endpoints, and data lineage • Non-human identities, API keys, and lifecycle controls as AI agents multiply • Data protection choices for LLM usage using endpoints, proxies, and guardrails • Applying AI to the SOC first and then expanding into vulnerability management and GRC • Balancing faster AI adoption with risk trade-offs and business objectives • Least privilege becoming least agency with agents and unpredictable action paths • Automated penetration testing and continuous validation without humans in the loop • Threat themes ahead including credential exposure and shifting exploit patterns • Startup advising, conflicts of interest, and staying transparent • Practical advice for CISOs on ambiguity, risk decisions, and continuous learning • Talent growth through reskilling, automation, and focusing humans on judgment

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  • S1 · E4
    June 8 · 32 min

    Diogo Guerra (SVP Engineering Feedzai)

    We talk with Diogo Guerra about building fraud and risk platforms at global scale while keeping engineering speed high and security standards uncompromising. We dig into why security leadership sits close to engineering at Feedzai, how they operationalize threat modeling, and where AI helps or hurts productivity. • Diogo’s scope across engineering, security, IT, and cloud operations for a 190-person organization • Feedzai’s focus on transactional fraud, anti-money laundering, and identity intelligence using behavioral and device analytics • Why SaaS responsibility and tier-one bank expectations raise the security bar • Balancing developer velocity with open source risk using context-driven vulnerability management • Rapid mitigation playbooks across thousands of servers without stopping delivery • Nonnegotiable security gates including threat modeling before major production changes • Bringing AI into the full development lifecycle with shared context and curated skills • A small architecture group distributing AI setups and productivity patterns across teams • Managing token cost, model choice, and avoiding lock-in as AI usage scales • How Gen AI amplifies social engineering scams and why identity signals matter • What agentic commerce could mean for fraud detection and cyber-fraud convergence

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  • S1 · E3
    May 25 · 30 min

    Ritesh Patel (CISO Just Eat Takeaway)

    We talk with Ritesh Patel about building security that keeps up with product velocity without becoming a blocker. We dig into AppSec, Third-party risk, fraud, and a practical four-part framework for AI security that holds up under real-world pressure. • Building a CISO “tool belt” through a nonlinear career across ops, engineering, risk, and incidents • Defining security as a business capability tied to trust and outcomes • Managing pace and agility in a consumer tech marketplace without becoming the department of no • Bmbedding AppSec into platforms so teams ship secure-by-default • Engineering for the masses while detecting exceptions fast • Treating supply chain security as an ecosystem problem that needs better visibility and real-time signals • Focusing on identity and access as the perimeter, including OAuth scope control • Reframing fraud and account takeover as a shared trust problem across teams • Applying a four-phase AI security model: build safe, run safe, defend with AI, control agentic AI • Separating AI-first vendor value from AI-washing and chatbot wrappers • Using NIS2, DORA, and other frameworks to improve risk posture, not just pass audits

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  • S1 · E1
    May 4 · 33 min

    Nuno Teodoro (ex-VP Cybersecurity at Solaris)

    We talk with Nuno Teodoro about how a hands-on security leader builds real defenses inside a cloud-native bank while regulators, auditors, and the business all demand speed. We dig into what changes when a fintech becomes a bank, how to use compliance to fund security maturity, and why AI-driven fraud is raising the stakes. • career path from computer engineering to application security and penetration testing • shifting from consultancy to leading security inside companies across telecom, insurance, and fintech • difference between VP of Cybersecurity and CISO roles across the three lines of defense • selecting vendors through hands-on POVs and POCs instead of only RFPs • protecting customer funds as the core cybersecurity goal in regulated banking • balancing compliance work with risk-based security priorities • navigating major frameworks and regulations like PCI DSS, SWIFT, ISO 27001, ISO 22301, PSD2, and DORA • using regulatory requirements to justify investments and close real security gaps • scaling security culture in a cloud-based AWS bank while managing control expectations • friction points in secure software development life cycle and blocking risky pull requests • communicating cyber risk to the board through business impact and clear narratives • focusing on DORA implementation plus the rise of AI-enabled fraud and account takeover threats

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    May 4 · 31 min

    Patrick Blanc (CISO Nexthink)

    We talk with Patrick Blanc about what it takes to secure a fast-growing B2B company whose product includes a privileged endpoint agent deployed at massive scale. We dig into why fundamentals beat hype, how productivity shortcuts quietly create the biggest risks, and how we frame security to customers and the board without losing speed. • Patrick’s career path from banking and consulting to CISO roles and security leadership at Google DeepMind • Why privileged endpoint agents raise reliability and trust stakes for enterprise customers • How identity and access management fits alongside endpoint security and defense in depth • Using compliance as a baseline trust signal while preparing for deeper customer audits • The hidden risk of productivity workarounds and the shift with agentic AI tools • Tool sprawl as a security problem and the value of secure-by-default standards • Emerging segments like IDE-integrated AI code security and the push to reduce alert noise • Practical ways to communicate cyber risk to a board focused on growth and resilience • Preparing for a faster external attack surface by tightening fundamentals like patching

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