Transition to Zero

Digital learning for transit workforce development with Ron Thiele of Xpan

This episode of Transition to Zero explores how transit agencies can use digital learning, digital twins, and modern LMS tools to prepare their workforce for zero emission fleets and other evolving propulsion systems. Host Jared Schnader speaks with Ron Thiele, founder and CEO of Xpan, about why training needs to start early, how agencies can build confidence before vehicles arrive, and what it takes to make learning relevant, measurable, and sustainable.We discuss how Xpan supports agencies across buses, rail, and emerging technologies by turning operational knowledge into interactive training experiences. Ron also shares lessons from Calgary Transit, the role of AI in organizing institutional knowledge, and why procurement, design, and workforce planning need to be aligned from the start. Key topics In this episode, Ron Thiele shares the origin story of Xpan, which began in 2001 with a public transit learning project for Calgary Transit and grew into a broader educational technology company. We discuss how Xpan defines digital learning as more than static e-learning, with knowledge experiences shaped by organizational culture, learner needs, and the interface between them. Ron explains how digital twins can be used to train staff on bus components, maintenance procedures, inspection workflows, and safety-critical tasks like lockout tag out. We look at how augmented reality and virtual reality can layer guidance onto a physical bus or create peer-to-peer simulated environments for safer, more confident learning. Ron shares that the biggest training priorities for agencies moving to zero emission fleets are electrical theory, high voltage safety, power systems, and propulsion-specific knowledge. We discuss why confidence matters so much for mechanics and technicians, especially when working on unfamiliar equipment with limited room for error. Ron explains how Xpan builds agency-specific training by working with OEMs, agencies, and standards groups so content matches the exact vehicle, components, and culture of each organization. We discuss how AI and data analytics can help agencies aggregate institutional knowledge, measure performance, and create more personalized learning journeys. Ron outlines the importance of starting workforce development during procurement and design, not after vehicles or infrastructure are already delivered. We cover how LMS platforms can support onboarding, compliance, recertification, competency tracking, contractor orientation, and cross-system integration with HR, asset management, and other operational systems. Ron also addresses common misconceptions about digital learning, including the idea that hands-on work cannot be taught effectively in digital environments. Looking ahead, Ron expects artificial intelligence to help smooth out the knowledge supply chain and make workforce learning more personalized, responsive, and sustainable. Timestamps (00:00) Transition to Zero opens with Ron Thiele and Xpan's mission in transit education (00:37) Ron's background in physics, journalism, and the founding of Xpan in 2001 (02:09) What Ron learned entering the public transportation ecosystem (03:22) Why e-learning has a stigma and how Xpan approaches digital learning differently (04:34) Digital twins, bus components, and interactive maintenance training (06:02) Lockout tag out simulation and high voltage safety training (06:37) Augmented reality and virtual reality for guided mechanic learning (07:55) Biggest training friction points for agencies moving to new propulsion technologies (08:10) Electrical theory, safety, and high voltage as top upskilling priorities (09:28) Building confidence through safe, empathic digital learning environments (10:56) Why agency-specific training matters and how Xpan keeps content relevant (12:56) Using AI, machine learning, and data analytics across the knowledge supply chain (14:42) Bringing real-time bus data into learning environments and sandboxes (16:31) Why training should start at the design and procurement stage (18:19) Culture change and building a growth mindset for continuous knowledge updates (19:25) How modern LMS systems support competencies, compliance, and personalized learning paths (21:47) Best practices: center of truth, competency matrices, and contractor onboarding (23:47) FTA Lono workforce development funding and the need to engage early (24:23) Why waiting until warranty periods end is too late for training readiness (27:05) Calgary Transit case study and the evolution from DVD to digital twins (30:34) How Xpan works with OEMs and agencies to build academies across a fleet lifecycle (32:41) Misconceptions about digital learning, infrastructure gaps, and adoption barriers (34:31) The next three to five years for AI, personalization, and workforce development (36:00) How to contact Ron Thiele and where Xpan is headed next Notable quotes Copy "The rate of change in this industry will never be slower than today." Copy "Technology is not the solution. It's the tool that we get to use." Copy "The confidence piece is a big piece of this." Links: CALSTART: www.calstart.org Xpan: www.xpan.ca

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Transforming Transit Operations: Anthony DeKeyser with Sun Metro in El Paso, Texas

Transforming Transit Operations: Anthony's Military Background, Fort Bliss Partnerships, and the Future of Clean Mobility Explore how Anthony's military background informs a disciplined, mission-driven approach to transit leadership, strategic planning, and workforce development. In this episode, we break down the synergies behind Sun Metro's operations, the Fort Bliss partnership, and the ongoing transition to CNG and battery electric buses. Episode Overview Anthony shares how lessons from military service translate into strong leadership in public transit, especially when it comes to coordination, execution, and long-range planning. The conversation highlights the importance of building operational synergies across departments, aligning capital planning with service needs, and making decisions that support both today's riders and tomorrow's growth.A major focus of the discussion is the work with Fort Bliss, where collaboration and community-centered mobility planning create a model for effective transit support. The episode also dives into the practical realities of deploying CNG buses and battery electric buses, including infrastructure, fleet modernization, and the strategic thinking required to scale clean transportation successfully. Key Topics Covered Anthony's military background and leadership mindset Building synergies across transit operations and stakeholder groups The Fort Bliss partnership and community mobility coordination CNG bus planning, deployment, and infrastructure considerations Battery electric bus discussions and the path to fleet electrification Workforce development, training, and team readiness Why strategic planning is essential for sustainable transit growth Aligning operations, capital investments, and long-term service goals Congressional and Public Sector Support Mentioned Congresswoman Veronica Escobar Senator Mary Kay [Blanco/placeholder mentioned in transcript] Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Mass Transit Board City of El Paso Sun Metro Organizations and Groups Discussed Fort Bliss Sun Metro CalSTART Texas Transit Association Bridge Fellowship Program MV Transportation Clean Technology Training Trust SEO Keywords Anthony military background, Fort Bliss transit, CNG buses, battery electric buses, workforce development, strategic planning, transit leadership, clean transportation, fleet modernization, public transit operations, Sun Metro, transit synergies, mobility planning, infrastructure planning, sustainable transit, FTA grants, transit workforce training, El Paso transit Hashtags #TransitLeadership #StrategicPlanning #WorkforceDevelopment #FortBliss #CNGBuses #ElectricBuses #BatteryElectricBuses #PublicTransit #CleanTransportation #FleetModernization #TransitOperations #MobilityPlanning #Leadership #TransportationPlanning #SustainableTransit #FTA #ElPaso #SunMetro #TexasTransit Why This Conversation Matters This episode stands out because it connects leadership experience with real-world transit execution. Anthony's military background, combined with a strategic approach to planning and workforce development, shows how strong systems thinking can drive meaningful progress in public transportation.

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Cracking the Zero-Emission Fleet Life Cycle: Parts, Supply Chains, and Keeping Buses on the Road

Episode Overview The procurement of a zero-emission bus (ZEB) is not the final destination—it is merely the starting line . As transit agencies across the country deploy advanced transit fleets, the ultimate metric of success shifts seamlessly from initial vehicle delivery to long-term lifecycle reliability . In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader, Executive Vice President at CALSTART, sits down with Allison Powers, Founder and CEO of Powers Parts, to dissect the critical shifting paradigms of zero-emission fleet maintenance, parts procurement, and data ecosystems . Historically, transit sector discussions have heavily centered around infrastructure deployments and scaling initial vehicle orders . However, today's operational reality demands a robust, integrated ecosystem capable of addressing acute vehicle-down situations—where a single obscure component or temporary software anomaly can idle a million-dollar asset . Powers shares her unique journey within the automotive and transit space, revealing how Powers Parts transformed from a dedicated hardware supplier into a comprehensive service ecosystem providing everything from diagnostic software to remanufactured heavy-duty components . The conversation delves deep into the strategic hurdles of modern supply chains, outlining the arduous master service agreement (MSA) processes required to secure OEM-level intellectual property with global manufacturers like Cummins, Danfoss, and John Deere . Listeners will also gain data-driven insights into the current state of Proterra fleets, where analytical outreach proves that a striking 70% of these legacy vehicles remain actively in service . Finally, Powers maps out the future of fleet logistics, looking ahead to the integration of predictive artificial intelligence (AI) to systematically prevent parts failures before they impact daily route ridership . ⚡ Key Soundbites & Quotes On the Fleet Life Cycle: "Procurement is just the beginning, honestly, of the life cycle... The transition doesn't end when it's delivered. Honestly, it's the beginning." On the Mission Behind the Assets: "To me, from a personal perspective, [the ecosystem] means getting somebody's grandmother on a bus and to their job... It is to make sure that the charger, the dispenser, the telematics on the bus is working. It's all of the things." On Preserving FTA Investments: "Instead of taking an entire million-dollar bus and putting it on the side because it needs one small part or software, which we have... we can help them get... back on the road." Advice for First-Time Fleet Adopters: "Start off with a small fleet. Get comfortable with the technology. Get some infrastructure. Train your technicians. Have them on site... because once you get comfortable, it's easy to add once you have some." 🔍 Relevant Links Guest Company Website: Powers Parts Official Site Connect with the Guest: Allison Powers on LinkedIn (Search: Alison Powers) Host Organization: CALSTART Clean Transportation Solutions Listen to More Episodes: Transition to Zero Podcast Hub 🏷️ Optimized Hashtags #ZeroEmissionBuses #CleanTransportation #TransitFleets #EVInfrastructure #SupplyChainLogistics #FleetMaintenance #CALSTART #PowersParts #SustainableTransit #WorkforceDevelopment #PredictiveMaintenance Show notes developed using Gemini and reviewed by Jared Schnader Editing and Production by Eroded Media

Olympics, Electrified Roads, and 80,000 people - UCLA's Road Ahead

content type Interview primary goal Educational summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, Jared Schnader speaks with Clinton Bench, Director of Fleet and Transit at UCLA, about how the university is turning its campus into a real-world proving ground for transportation innovation. Clinton shares the scale and complexity of UCLA's fleet operations, which include more than a thousand vehicles serving everything from campus transit and passenger movement to specialized logistics like hazardous materials delivery, catering, and trash collection. He also explains how UCLA functions almost like a small city, with tens of thousands of people on campus each day and a transit system that has to serve students, employees, patients, and visitors across a dense, landlocked environment in West Los Angeles. A major theme of the conversation is UCLA's role as an "innovation laboratory" for electrification and new mobility technology. Clinton discusses how the university has been able to test battery-electric vehicles, share lessons with other universities and transit agencies, and support research partnerships across engineering, urban planning, and public policy. He also highlights progress in accessibility through a fully electrified demand-responsive paratransit system, which has dramatically expanded service for students with disabilities and helped make UCLA more accessible than it was just a few years ago. The discussion makes clear that innovation at UCLA is not just about technology for technology's sake—it's about improving service, inclusion, and operational efficiency at the same time. The conversation then turns to one of the episode's most exciting topics: UCLA's electrified road charging and mobility hub project, developed with CalStart and Electrion. Clinton explains how the project combines full transit bus electrification, a new mobility hub near the Westwood station, and wireless charging infrastructure that could reduce vehicle battery size, lower capital costs, and create new opportunities for shared charging revenue. He also walks through the practical side of implementation, including authentication, billing, and the use of fleet management systems to track usage and recover costs from internal and external users. Finally, Clinton describes how the mobility hub will support major regional changes, including the opening of the D Line extension and UCLA's role as the Olympic Village for the 2028 Games, where mobility, shuttles, and access planning will all be critical. keywords UCLA, campus transportation, electric vehicles, inductive charging, mobility hub, transit innovation, sustainable transit, UCLA Olympics, regional transit, electric fleet key topics UCLA campus transportation fleet Electrification of transit vehicles Dynamic inductive charging technology Mobility hub development at UCLA Regional transit improvements and Olympics prep guest name Clinton Bench Titles UCLA's Electric Fleet and Mobility Innovations Transforming Campus Transit: UCLA's Sustainable Future sound bites "Welcome to Transition to Zero, focusing on advanced transportation." "Wireless charging reduces battery size and costs." "Inductive charging can generate revenue and recoup costs." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to UCLA's Fleet Operations 02:27 UCLA's Role as a Living Laboratory for Innovation 05:08 Advancements in Paratransit Services 07:42 Exploring Electrified Roads and Dynamic Charging 10:30 The Mobility Hub and Its Impact on UCLA 12:47 Preparing for the 2028 Olympics at UCLA resources Electrion - Dynamic Inductive Charging Technology - https://electrion.com UCLA Transportation Department - https://transportation.ucla.edu LA 2028 Olympics Official Site - https://la28.org guest links LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/clintonbench Twitter - https://twitter.com/clintonbench

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Electric and Fuel Cell Buses: Maintenance and Workforce Challenges from VVTA

summary In this episode, Dustin Strandberg from Victor Valley Transit shares insights on transitioning to zero-emission transit vehicles, maintenance challenges, workforce development, and operational impacts of electric and fuel cell buses. keywords Transit, Electric Buses, Fuel Cell, Maintenance, Workforce Development, Zero Emission Vehicles, CNG, Battery Electric, Hydrogen Fuel Cells, Transit Technology key topics Transition to zero-emission transit vehicles Maintenance challenges and solutions for electric and fuel cell buses Workforce training and development for new transit technologies guest name Dustin Strandberg sound bites "Range exceeded my expectations at first" "Battery uptime dropped to around 40%" "Cold weather causes a 40% range loss" Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Victor Valley Transit and Its Operations 02:48 Transitioning to Zero Emission Technologies 05:31 Challenges and Surprises in Battery Electric Bus Operations 08:05 Impact of Environmental Conditions on Bus Performance 10:41 Maintenance and Cost Analysis of Zero Emission Buses 13:30 Training and Workforce Development for New Technologies 16:01 The Future of Transit Careers and Community Involvement resources Victor Valley Transit Authority (VVTA) - https://vvta.org/ New Flyer Electric Buses - https://www.newflyer.com/ Southern California Edison - Charge Ready Program - https://www.sce.com/ California Transit Training Center (CTTC) - https://www.cttc.com/ guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustin-strandberg-123456789/

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CUTRIC: Canada's ZEB Market

In this episode, Jess Smith from CUTRIC shares insights on Canada's transition to zero-emission transit, including hydrogen projects, battery electric buses, funding strategies, and technological innovations shaping the future of sustainable transit. keywords Zero Emission Transit, Hydrogen Fuel Cells, Battery Electric Buses, Transit Funding, Sustainable Transportation, Canada Transit Innovation key topics Hydrogen projects and their regional deployment in Canada Advancements in battery electric bus technology and range improvements Funding strategies and government support for zero emission transit The role of software, data analytics, and predictive tools in fleet management Challenges and opportunities in hydrogen fuel cell adoption guest name Jess Smith Titles Canada's Zero Emission Transit Revolution: Insights from CUTRIC Hydrogen and Battery Electric Buses: The Future of Canadian Transit sound bites "No technology is a clear winner in decarbonizing fleets." "Plans must evolve with technological advancements." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to CUTRIC and Jess Smith's Role 00:49 CUTRIC's Mission and Canada's Zero Emission Goals 01:43 Current Developments in Canadian Transit Technologies 02:58 Hydrogen Projects and Regional Deployment in Canada 03:47 Cost of Hydrogen and Market Dynamics 04:37 Adoption Trends: Battery Electric vs Hydrogen Fuel Cells 05:30 Canadian Government Targets and Progress 06:42 Strategies for Charging Infrastructure and Standardization 07:22 Innovations in Data Analytics and Software Tools 08:18 Future Trends: Autonomous Shuttles and Smart Transit Systems 09:19 Funding Strategies and the Role of Federal and Provincial Support 10:05 Overcoming Planning Gaps and Utility Coordination 11:12 Lessons Learned and Best Practices for Transit Agencies 12:04 The Impact of Funding and Policy on Transition Speed 12:58 Collaborative Procurement and Supporting Smaller Agencies 13:57 Charging Infrastructure Challenges and Solutions 15:00 Hydrogen Production, Costs, and Market Outlook 15:36 Operational Challenges in Cold Weather Conditions 16:50 Planning for Future Technologies and Market Shifts 17:22 The Importance of Early Planning and Flexibility 18:43 Emerging Technologies: Inductive Charging and Autonomous Vehicles 19:15 The Role of Data and Software in Fleet Optimization 20:22 The Critical Role of Funding and Policy Support 21:21 Addressing Gaps in Utility Coordination and Infrastructure 22:05 Lessons from Canada for U.S. Transit Agencies 22:57 The Future of Zero Emission Transit: Trends and Predictions 23:46 Advice for Transit Leaders Considering Electrification 24:50 Innovations in Data Analytics and Smart Transit Systems 25:39 The Next Five Years: Technologies and Market Evolution 26:38 Final Message: Early Planning and Flexibility 27:40 Jess Smith's Key Message to Transit Agencies resources CUTRIC Official Website - https://CUTRIC.ca/ Hydrogen Fuel Cell Technology Overview - https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-fuel-cells Canadian Zero Emission Transit Funding Programs - https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/climate-change/zero-emission-transit.html guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jess-smith/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jesssmith

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Autel and Electrification of Transit

Keywords EV charging, Autel Energy, market landscape, reliability, data management, regulatory compliance, government programs, communication, charging technology, industry maturity Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jerge Schneider speaks with Dario Pagani from Autel Energy about the evolving landscape of EV charging technology. They discuss the reliability of chargers, the importance of data management for fleet optimization, and the challenges posed by regulatory compliance. The conversation also highlights the role of government programs in infrastructure development and the need for improved communication and collaboration within the industry. Looking ahead, they explore the future of charging technology and the lessons learned from past experiences in the market. Takeaways The EV charging market is stabilizing after a period of intense competition. Reliability and diagnostics are crucial for long-term investment in charging infrastructure. Data management is essential for optimizing fleet operations and reducing costs. BABA compliance for chargers increases costs but ensures local manufacturing. Government programs can provide necessary support and structure for industry growth. Effective communication among stakeholders is vital for successful project execution. 2026 is anticipated to be a pivotal year for deploying existing charging technologies. The industry is maturing, with a focus on proven solutions rather than constant innovation. Lessons learned from past failures are shaping a more confident market. Investing in the EV industry is seen as a revolutionary opportunity. sound bites "We're getting past the race to the bottom." "Reliability is key for long-term investment." "BABA compliance increases costs significantly." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Autel Energy and EV Charging 02:48 Market Landscape and Business Models 05:46 Ensuring Charger Reliability and Maintenance 08:12 Regulatory Compliance: Buy America and Its Implications 11:17 Government's Role in Industry Development 14:02 Infrastructure Challenges and Solutions 16:34 Communication and Collaboration in Electrification 19:35 Lessons Learned and Future Considerations 22:06 The Future of Charging Technology and Deployment

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Zeroing in on ZEBs Report: 2026

Summary This episode features insights from CalSTART experts on the latest trends in zero emission bus adoption across the US, highlighting growth, regional spread, and industry maturity. keywords Zero Emission Buses, ZEBs, Transit Industry, Fleet Transition, Data Ecosystem, Technology Adoption, Workforce Development, Industry Trends key topics Growth in zero emission bus deployment despite industry challenges Nationwide adoption across 48 states, including smaller agencies Transition planning and technology maturity in transit fleets guest name Mike Hynes and Kaila Ketelsen Titles Zeroing in on ZEBs: 2023 Adoption Trends and Insights How US Transit Agencies Are Accelerating Zero Emission Bus Deployment sound bites "48 out of 50 states now have deployments." "Fuel cell growth has increased from 45% to 55%." "Leaning on industry collaboration is key." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Zeroing in on ZEBs Report 00:48 What is the Zeroing in on ZEBs Report? 01:41 Key Findings from the 2023 Report 02:15 Regional and Nationwide Adoption Trends 03:48 Growth Despite Industry Headwinds 04:17 Distribution of Zero Emission Buses Across the US 05:43 Evolving Data Ecosystem at CalSTART 08:27 Challenges of Data Centralization and Validation 10:58 Battery Electric vs Hydrogen Fuel Cells 12:55 Trends in Fleet Transition Planning 15:34 Insights for Transit Agencies from Data Analysis 16:58 Workforce Development and Industry Models 18:45 Generation Zero Event and Peer Exchange 20:41 Surprising Trends in Adoption by Region 22:13 Lessons for Transit Agencies Moving Forward resources CalSTART Zeroing in on ZEBs Report 2023 - https://calstart.org/reports/zeroing-in-on-zebs-2023 Generation Zero Event by CalSTART and CARB - https://calstart.org/events/generation-zero Neoride - Industry Collaboration Model - https://neoride.com/ California Air Resources Board (CARB) - https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/ guest links LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/mikehynes LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/kailaketelsen

Workforce Development in Transit: Clean Technology Training Trust

Keywords Clean Technology, Workforce Development, Zero Emission, Apprenticeships, Training, Clean Transportation, Policy, Future Workforce, Technology Integration, Employee Retention Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader speaks with Dr. Kimberly Moore, National Director of the Clean Technology Training Trust, about the critical role of workforce development in achieving zero-emission goals in transportation. They discuss the importance of aligning workforce training with technological advancements, the challenges faced in workforce readiness, and the need for policies that support sustained investment in training. Dr. Moore emphasizes the significance of apprenticeships and customized training solutions to prepare the next generation for emerging roles in clean technology. The conversation also touches on the integration of technology in training and the evolving expectations of the workforce. Takeaways The Clean Technology Training Trust addresses workforce gaps in clean transportation. Workforce readiness is essential for the successful deployment of zero-emission technologies. Organizations must plan for workforce development alongside technology investments. Safety and skills training are critical in the transition to new technologies. Apprenticeships provide a pathway to the middle class without student debt. Policies must support sustained workforce investment for long-term success. Customization in training programs is necessary to meet specific organizational needs. The future workforce will require hybrid roles that combine various skill sets. Retention of employees is linked to ongoing training and development opportunities. The next generation values purpose and career pathways over traditional college routes. Titles Bridging the Gap: Workforce Development in Clean Tech The Future of Clean Transportation: Workforce Readiness sound bites "Workforce readiness is really core." "You have to build that workforce too." "You want to know that they see you." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Clean Technology Training Trust 02:43 The Importance of Workforce Development in Clean Transportation 05:34 Challenges in Workforce Readiness 08:44 The Role of Policy in Workforce Training 11:32 Apprenticeships and Long-Term Workforce Success 14:21 Creating Scalable Workforce Solutions 17:06 The Future of Workforce Training with Technology 19:48 Emerging Roles and Competencies for the Next Generation 22:52 Retention and Employee Fulfillment 25:52 The Pathways to Success for Future Generations

Electreon: Perpetual Motion through Dynamic Charging

Episode Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader sits down with Stefan Tongur of Electreon to explore how wireless charging is reshaping the future of electric transportation. The conversation revisits Electreon's core breakthrough—wireless charging embedded directly into roadways—and explains how charging can occur not only when vehicles are parked, but also while they are in motion. This approach directly addresses persistent barriers to EV adoption, including range anxiety, long charging times, grid constraints, and the high cost of oversized batteries. Stefan shares updates on Electreon's progress since their last appearance, highlighting the shift from technology validation to real-world commercialization. Key pilot projects in Michigan and Utah demonstrate over 99% reliability, successful energy transfer at scale, and growing collaboration with state DOTs, universities, utilities, and industry partners. These projects prove that electric roads can be deployed within existing permitting and construction processes, making them viable for U.S. infrastructure. A major focus of the discussion is the business case for wireless charging roads. By turning existing roadways into revenue-generating assets, states and municipalities can potentially offset declining gas-tax revenues while reducing the need for massive charging depots and land-intensive megawatt chargers. International examples—particularly in France—show how toll-road operators can use electric roads to support heavy-duty trucks, reduce required charging space, and enable smaller, lower-cost vehicle batteries. The episode also dives into the UCLA wireless charging project, a flagship U.S. deployment that brings together transit buses, multiple regional transit agencies, and future applications such as autonomous vehicles and shared mobility. By treating charging infrastructure as a shared platform rather than isolated assets, the UCLA project illustrates how wireless charging can unlock longer vehicle uptime, lower total cost of ownership, and more resilient grid operations—offering a glimpse of what scalable, seamless electrification could look like nationwide. Key Takeaways Wireless charging can occur while vehicles are parked or in motion, eliminating downtime and range anxiety. Pilot projects in Michigan and Utah demonstrate high reliability and real-world feasibility within existing road construction processes. Electric roads can become revenue-generating infrastructure, helping replace gas-tax income and reduce land use for charging depots. International deployments, especially in France, show strong potential for heavy-duty trucking and toll-road business models. The UCLA project serves as a living lab for shared charging infrastructure across multiple transit agencies and future autonomous fleets. Wireless charging enables smaller batteries, lower vehicle costs, and higher fleet utilization, benefiting operators, utilities, and communities. Links & Resources Electreon – Wireless charging for electric vehicles: https://www.electreon.com CALSTART – National nonprofit focused on transportation decarbonization: https://calstart.org Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) – Partner on electric road pilot projects: https://www.michigan.gov/mdot Utah Inland Port & Utah State University – Partners on dynamic wireless charging pilots: https://inlandportauthority.utah.gov | https://www.usu.edu SAE International – J2954/3 Wireless Power Transfer Standard: https://www.sae.org UCLA Transportation Services – Transit and sustainability initiatives: https://transportation.ucla.edu VINCI Autoroutes (France) – Toll-road operator involved in electric road pilots: https://www.vinci-autoroutes.com Podcast: Transition to Zero Guest: Stefan Tongur, Electreon Host: Jared Schnader

A-Z of Buses with John Landherr

Keywords Electric Vehicles, EV, Total Cost of Ownership, Reliability, Emissions Requirements, Paradigm Shift Summary The conversation delves into the evolving landscape of electric vehicles (EVs), focusing on the anticipated shift in perception regarding their total cost of ownership and reliability. With upcoming emissions requirements set for 2027, there is a growing belief that EVs will become more appealing to consumers as they recognize the potential savings and reliability advantages over traditional diesel vehicles. The discussion highlights a significant paradigm shift in the automotive industry, emphasizing the importance of these factors in the decision-making process for future vehicle purchases. Takeaways People will start thinking about EVs more and more. Total cost of ownership will favor EVs in the near future. Reliability of EVs is becoming a key consideration. 2027 emissions requirements will drive change in the market. A paradigm shift towards EVs is imminent. Incentives for EVs are just the beginning of the transition. Next three to five years are crucial for EV adoption. EVs can offer savings compared to traditional vehicles. The inflection point for EVs is approaching rapidly. Consumers will prioritize TCO and reliability in their choices. Titles The Future of Electric Vehicles: A Paradigm Shift Understanding the Total Cost of Ownership in EVs Sound bites "It's only getting better for EVs." "A big paradigm shift is coming." "Incentives for EVs are just the beginning." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to A to Z Bus Sales

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Funding Infrastructure

🎧 Episode Title: Energizing Transit: Inside CalSTART's Infrastructure Funding Program Host: Jared Schnader Guest: Ian Cadger, Clean Fuels & Infrastructure Team, CALSTART Episode Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader sits down with Ian Cadger from CALSTART's Clean Fuels & Infrastructure (CF&I) team to unpack the groundbreaking EnergIIZE Commercial Vehicles Project — a first-of-its-kind funding program accelerating zero-emission vehicle infrastructure in California. While Jared leads CALSTART's Bus Team, Ian's work in clean fuels and infrastructure focuses on building the backbone that enables electric and hydrogen transit fleets to thrive. Ian explains how EnergIIZE supports fleet and transit agencies with funding for chargers, hydrogen dispensers, and supporting equipment, along with software, maintenance, and warranty costs. The conversation dives deep into how the program operates — from early-stage planning and applications to data reporting and long-term uptime requirements. Jared and Ian also discuss how EnergIIZE coordinates with utilities, CalFleet Advisors, and vehicle voucher programs like HVIP to make infrastructure projects viable and scalable. The two explore the evolution of the program's incentive structure, which now rewards greater charger capacity and encourages ambitious buildouts. Ian provides insights into how EnergIIZE has become a national model for other states developing similar initiatives — emphasizing lessons learned in streamlining applications, ensuring utility coordination, and promoting equity in infrastructure deployment. Finally, Ian offers a look at what's next for EnergIIZE, including the launch of a megawatt charging system funding lane targeting drayage fleets, continued data collection efforts, and opportunities for agencies to stay connected through CalSTART's funding updates. 🔑 Key Takeaways EnergIIZE funds both EV and hydrogen fueling infrastructure, including equipment, software, maintenance, and warranties. Transit agencies can apply through the Transit Set-Aside or Fast Track Lane, depending on project readiness. The program requires coordination with local utilities and includes five years of data reporting on charger usage and uptime. CalFleet Advisors helps agencies assess needs, site capacity, and charger requirements before applying. The EnergIIZE Impact Map tracks awards and deployment progress across California. A new incentive structure encourages higher-capacity charging projects rather than fixed grant amounts. The program has spurred growing national interest, inspiring similar models outside California. Upcoming: a $10 million Megawatt Charging System lane focused on drayage industry electrification. 🔗 Resources & Links 🌐 EnergIIZE Commercial Vehicles Program (note the double "ii") 📊 EnergIIZE Impact Map – Funding & Deployment Data 🚌 CalSTART – advancing clean transportation technologies 🤝 CalFleet Advisors – fleet support for zero-emission transitions 📬 Sign up for EnergIIZE Funding Announcements on the EnergIIZE website

Model1 on the Evolving Cutaway Market

Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, Jared Schnader and Steve Chung explore the journey of Model One, focusing on the transition to zero-emission vehicles. They discuss the El Arca study, which highlights significant fuel savings and improved customer satisfaction, and delve into the broader impact of electric transportation on communities and the environment. Keywords El Arca study, fuel savings, customer satisfaction, zero-emission vehicles, electric transportation, Model One, California regulations, infrastructure, maintenance costs, electric buses Takeaways Model One is the largest bus dealer in the country, focusing on zero-emission vehicles. California's clean air regulations influence nationwide standards. El Arca saves up to $30,000 monthly on fuel with electric vehicles. Electric vehicles offer a quieter, more pleasant ride for passengers. Customer satisfaction is enhanced by the quieter, smoother ride of electric vehicles. Model One partners with major manufacturers like Ford for reliable zero-emission solutions. The transition to zero-emission vehicles involves significant infrastructure considerations. Electric vehicles reduce maintenance costs and eliminate the need for oil changes. Model One provides comprehensive support from sales to service. The market is evolving with advancements in battery technology and electric vehicle infrastructure. Title Options Revolutionizing Transit: The El Arca Study Fuel Savings & Satisfaction: The Electric Advantage Model One's Journey to Zero Emissions Electric Vehicles: A Quieter, Greener Future The Impact of Zero-Emission Buses on Communities How El Arca Achieved $30K Monthly Fuel Savings Customer Satisfaction in the Age of Electric Transit Model One's Role in the Zero-Emission Revolution The Future of Transportation: Electric Buses From Gas to Electric: A New Era in Transit Sound bites El Arca saves $30,000 monthly Quieter rides enhance satisfaction Electric vehicles cut maintenance costs Zero emissions, zero compromises A smoother ride for all Leading the charge in transit Fuel savings drive change Customer satisfaction soars Electric is the future Model One's electric evolution

Forest River Talks the Cutaway Market

Title: Transition to Zero: Exploring the Future of Transit with Forest River Episode Description: Join host Jared Schnader as he delves into the world of advanced transit technologies with Doug Wright, President of Forest River's Bus and Marine Division. Discover insights into the evolving market of cutaway buses, the impact of COVID-19 on the industry, and the future of electric vehicles in transit. Key Topics: Introduction to Forest River: Doug Wright provides a comprehensive overview of Forest River's diverse divisions, from RVs to marine and bus manufacturing. Market Dynamics: Explore the shifts in the cutaway bus market pre- and post-COVID, including the rise of vans and the challenges of maintaining market share. Innovation and Responsibility: Learn about Forest River's commitment to building reliable buses for operators and mechanics, emphasizing the importance of stability, support, simplicity, and value. Electric Vehicle Transition: Doug discusses the gradual shift towards electric vehicles, the role of hybrids, and the importance of infrastructure and total cost of ownership. Customization Challenges: The episode addresses the complexities of over-customization in bus manufacturing and the benefits of standardization for efficiency and quality. Future Innovations: Doug shares insights into potential innovations in materials and technology that could enhance the safety and reliability of buses. Notable Quotes: "We have a tremendous responsibility to make sure that our buses are not only built really well, but when they do break down, they're back on the road quickly." "The look of the vehicle isn't what should be most important to the end user; it's everything else that continues to get better." Conclusion: Doug Wright emphasizes the importance of innovation, responsibility, and collaboration in shaping the future of transit. As the largest cutaway bus manufacturer, Forest River is poised to lead the industry with reliable and advanced solutions. Hashtags: #TransitInnovation #ElectricVehicles #ForestRiver #SustainableTransport Call to Action: Subscribe now to stay updated on the latest in transit technology and innovation.

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Innovations in Transit with BAE Systems

Title: Transition to Zero: Innovations in Transit with BAE Systems Description: Join host Jared Schnader as he sits down with John Hroncich, Director of North American Transit Sales at BAE Systems, to explore the cutting-edge advancements in electric and hybrid propulsion systems. Discover how BAE Systems is transforming public transportation with sustainable technologies and hear about their latest achievements, including the Gen 3 electric drive system and its impressive performance in Altoona testing. Key Highlights: Introduction to BAE Systems: A global leader in aerospace and defense, BAE Systems is celebrating 30 years of innovation in transit technology, focusing on electric and hybrid propulsion solutions. Evolution of Propulsion Systems: John Hroncich shares insights into the development of BAE's Gen 3 system, emphasizing the importance of continuous improvement and feedback from transit operators. Gen 3 Electric Drive System: The latest system boasts significant improvements in fuel economy and emissions savings, achieving 6.6 miles per gallon, a notable increase over previous models. Altoona Testing Success: The Gen 3 system's performance in Altoona testing highlights its efficiency and reliability, setting new benchmarks for hybrid buses. Future of Transit Technology: Discussion on the integration of battery electric, fuel cells, and hybrid systems, and how BAE's flexible architecture supports diverse transit needs. Collaboration with OEMs: BAE's efforts to simplify integration for vehicle manufacturers, reducing complexity and enhancing serviceability. Looking Ahead: Exciting developments in energy storage for commercial aircraft and the potential for cross-industry innovation. Hashtags: #TransitInnovation #SustainableTransport #BAESystems #ElectricDrive #ZeroEmissions

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Mobility House: Making Electric Buses More Reliable and Afforable

Title: Transition to Zero: Exploring Mobility House's Role in Transit Electrification Description: Join host Jared Schnader and guest Sam Hill-Cristol, Director of Business Development and Strategy at Mobility House, as they delve into the future of transit electrification. Discover how Mobility House is pioneering vehicle grid integration and smart charging solutions to support zero-emission mobility. Key Topics: Introduction to Mobility House's mission and vision for zero-emission mobility. Unique approaches to electrification and vehicle grid integration. The role of smart charging technology in reducing operational and capital costs. Strategies for integrating electric buses into existing transit operations. The importance of collaboration between transit agencies and utilities. Future outlook on transit electrification and its impact on climate goals. Guest: Sam Hill-Cristol, Director of Business Development and Strategy at Mobility House Host: Jared Schnader, Lead of the Bus Team at CALSTART Hashtags: #TransitElectrification #ZeroEmission #SmartCharging #MobilityHouse

American Battery Solutions Talks Domestic Batteries

In this episode of "Transition to Zero," host Jared Schnader sits down with Dr. John Warner, Chief Customer Officer at American Battery Solutions. They explore the evolution of battery technology, the challenges and opportunities in the transit industry, and the future of sustainable transportation. Dr. Warner shares insights from his extensive career in the automotive and battery industries, discussing the importance of innovation and collaboration in driving the industry forward. Tune in to discover how American Battery Solutions is leading the charge in creating a cleaner, more efficient future. Show Notes: Title: Transition to Zero: The Future of Battery Technology with Dr. John Warner Introduction: Host Jared Schnader introduces the episode and guest, Dr. John Warner. Overview of Dr. Warner's background in the automotive and battery industries. Key Discussion Points: Dr. Warner's Career Journey: Transition from automotive to battery industry. Founding of American Battery Solutions. Battery Technology Evolution: Historical perspective on lithium-ion batteries. Current advancements and future potential. Challenges in the Transit Industry: Importance of safety, performance, and cost in battery design. The role of electric buses in reducing emissions and operational costs. Future Innovations: Exploration of solid-state and lithium-sulfur technologies. The impact of new chemistries on energy density and safety. Education and Workforce Development: The need for training the next generation of battery industry professionals. Conclusion: Dr. Warner's vision for the future of battery technology. Closing remarks and invitation for audience questions. Hashtags: #BatteryTechnology #SustainableTransport #Innovation #ElectricVehicles Call to Action: Subscribe to "Transition to Zero" for more insights into the future of transportation.

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ATN's Journey to Resiliency and Supporting Economic Drivers

Title: Transition to Zero: ATN's Journey to Resiliency and Supporting Economic Drivers Description: Join host Jared Schnader as he sits down with Diana Kotler, CEO of Anaheim Transit Network (ATN), to explore the innovative steps ATN is taking towards a zero-emission future. Discover how ATN is leading the way in sustainable public transit, the role of microgrids, and the exciting potential of autonomous technology. Key Points: Introduction to ATN and its mission to improve air quality and manage congestion in Anaheim. The journey towards a zero-emission transit district by 2028. Insights into the development and operation of ATN's microgrid. The importance of public-private partnerships in achieving sustainability goals. Future prospects of autonomous technology and personalized transportation. Hashtags: #SustainableTransit #ZeroEmission #InnovationInTransit Call to Action: Listen now to learn how ATN is transforming public transit and paving the way for a cleaner, greener future. Link in first comment.

Louisiana's Continued Advancement

In this episode of "Transition to Zero," host Jared Schnader sits down with Ann Vail, Executive Director of Louisiana Clean Fuels, to explore the pivotal role of Clean Cities in advancing alternative fuels. Discover how these coalitions are bridging gaps, fostering innovation, and driving the transition to cleaner transportation solutions across the nation. From electric buses in Baton Rouge to the innovative Gumbo workforce development program, learn how Louisiana is leading the charge in sustainable transit. Title: The Role of Clean Cities in Promoting Alternative Fuels Introduction: Host Jared Schnader introduces the episode and guest Ann Vail, Executive Director of Louisiana Clean Fuels. Key Topics Discussed: Overview of Clean Cities Coalition and its mission to reduce transportation emissions. The success of electric transit buses in Baton Rouge and the role of Clean Cities in supporting their deployment. The Gumbo workforce development program aimed at training local workers for the electric vehicle industry. The importance of public fueling stations and the challenges faced in maintaining them. Louisiana's efforts in hydrogen production and its potential as a future fuel source. The Clean Transportation Network's initiative for national branding and awareness of alternative fuels. Notable Quotes: "We are the boots on the ground, working hand in hand with our stakeholders." "If we don't see it, we make it ourselves." Conclusion: Ann Vail emphasizes the commitment of Louisiana communities to embrace advanced technologies and cleaner fuels. Call to Action: Visit Clean Transportation Network for more information on alternative fuels and technologies. Hashtags: #CleanCities #AlternativeFuels #SustainableTransport

Being First: Foothill Transit

Keywords Foothill Transit, Doran Barnes, electric buses, hydrogen fuel cell, zero emission, transit technology, infrastructure, community engagement, workforce development, public transportation Takeaways Foothill Transit operates in the San Gabriel and Pomona Valleys of Los Angeles County. The transition from diesel to CNG and then to electric buses began in 2010. Doran Barnes emphasizes the importance of understanding the economics of electric power versus traditional fuels. Charging infrastructure is critical for the successful deployment of electric buses. The initial deployment of electric buses revealed unexpected challenges, particularly with charging frequency. Hydrogen fuel cell technology is being adopted as a viable alternative to battery electric buses. Community engagement is essential for public acceptance of new technologies. The workforce must be trained to handle advanced technologies in transit. Sharing knowledge and experiences across the industry is vital for progress. Economic viability remains a challenge for zero emission technologies. Summary In this episode of Transition to Zero, host Jared Schnader speaks with Doran Barnes, CEO of Foothill Transit, about the challenges and successes of integrating advanced technologies into public transit. They discuss the transition from diesel to compressed natural gas (CNG) and then to electric and hydrogen fuel cell buses. Doran shares insights on the importance of infrastructure, community engagement, and the economic considerations of adopting zero-emission technologies. The conversation highlights the need for workforce development and the sharing of knowledge within the industry to foster innovation and progress in transit systems. Titles Innovating Transit: The Journey of Foothill Transit Doran Barnes on the Future of Zero Emission Buses Sound bites "Hydrogen can do the job." "Our board was like, hey, this is pretty cool." "This is part of the experience." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Foothill Transit and Doran Barnes 02:46 Transitioning to Advanced Technologies in Transit 05:39 Challenges of Electric Bus Deployment 08:31 Learning from Early Deployments 11:15 The Shift to Hydrogen Fuel Cell Buses 14:07 Economic Considerations in Zero Emission Technologies 16:40 The Role of Infrastructure in Technology Adoption 19:24 Community Engagement and Public Perception 22:09 Workforce Development in Advanced Technologies 25:03 Board Support and Risk Management 27:51 Final Thoughts on Innovation in Transit