Them Before Us Podcast

Them Before Us

Join host Jennifer Friesen, Training Director at Them Before Us, along with the TBU team, as they cover politics, current events, and policy updates affecting children's rights. Featuring top experts in politics, bioethics, law, reproductive technology, research, and culture, this podcast equips listeners to defend children's rights in debates on legislation, family, and technology. With thought-provoking discussions and expert insights, the TBU Podcast is your go-to resource for advocating a child-centric approach in today's world.

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110 episodes
Updated July 10

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Aug 18, 2023 · 39 min
Them Before Us #010 - Same-Sex Parenting: Debunking the Myth of “No Difference” Between Same-Sex and Duel-Sex Parenting
Jenn and Katy address one of the most pervasive lies in popular culture, the myth that there’s “no difference” in outcomes for children raised by same-sex parents when compared to children raised by their own mother and father.
Aug 17, 2023 · 24 min
Them Before Us #009 | Q& A: Why did Katy start TBU, interracial and same-sex adoption, and how can we sustain marriage in society
In our first Q&A bonus episode, Katy addresses questions we’ve received from our followers on social media: Why did Katy start Them Before Us? How does Katy's mom feel about TBU and Katy's work? What do we think about "inter-racial" adoption? What's the TBU position on same-sex couples adopting? How can we "sustain marriage" in modern society? What's a small scale way to support Them Before Us?
Aug 11, 2023 · 44 min
Them Before Us #008 - Divorce
Jenn and Katy tackle a societal issue that has impacted the majority of the population, Chapter Five from her book Them Before Us: Divorce. They explore how much divorce hurts children, and how it impacts every aspect of their lives, from academics, to their physical and mental health; they make the case that divorce must be the last resort for any adults that have the best interest of their children at heart. This episode provides the information and tools needed to effectively discuss this heavy topic and hope for those who want to break the cycle.
Aug 5, 2023 · 46 min
Them Before Us #007 - The devolution of marriage and why it matters.
Jenn and Katy discuss the true definition of marriage, the importance of the marital institution as it relates to the rights of children, and the socio-cultural impact that followed the 2015 SCOTUS decision that redefined it.. . They explore poly-relationships, cohabitation, no-fault divorce, and where the blame truly lies for the dismal state of marriage in the west.
Jul 28, 2023 · 50 min
Them Before Us #006 - Does gender matter or is it a social construct?
Jenn and Katy continue to unpack chapters of Them Before Us; Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. This podcast expounds on Chapter Three: Gender Matters. They deep dive into the cultural “gender is a social construct” nomenclature, and make the case that “parenting” is a misnomer; the reality is that “parenting” is best defined as “mothering” and “fathering.”
Jul 26, 2023 · 24 min
Them Before Us #005 - TBU Hot Topics: "Finding a good sperm donor" and reciprocal IVF
Jenn and Katy editorialize on two trending news stories that circulated this past month and consider them from the perspective that’s usually missing: the children's. Today’s episode explores the difficulty in the quest to procure a “good sperm donor”, and whether “reciprocal IVF” can satisfy the profound longings children have for familial connection. Esquire article: https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/a44519929/sperm-donor-search-what-i-learned-about-men/ People Magazine article: https://people.com/couple-carrying-each-others-baby-reciprocal-ivf-give-birth-days-apart-my-extraordinary-family-7556199
Jul 21, 2023 · 37 min
Them Before Us #004 - Does Biology Matter to Kids?
Jenn and Katy discuss why “Biology Matters” the second chapter of her book, Them Before Us - Why We Need a Global Children's Rights Movement. They explore the importance of the relationship between a child’s biological mother and father and the social-emotional nourishment a child derives from being raised in a home with married parents who love one another, living under the same roof. Also up for discussion is the difference between step-parents, mom’s boyfriend, and adoptive parents; and finally they share some inspiring stories about non-related adults who are putting them (the children) before us (the adults).
Jul 14, 2023 · 51 min
Them Before Us #003 - What Does "Children Have Rights" Mean & Surrogacy Breaking News
Jenn and Katy talk about chapter one in the TBU book: What makes something a right and the what the difference is between natural and legal rights as it pertains to children. Then they give the children's rights perspective on three trending surrogacy news stories from across the globe.
Jul 6, 2023 · 46 min
Them Before Us #002 - Katy & Jenn chat about Jenn's background and the distinct angle she brings to the fight for children’s rights.
We flip the script in this Them Before Us podcast episode, where Katy interviews Jenn about the confusion she experienced around gender and sexuality, and how her lived experience uniquely qualifies her in this mission that insists adults do hard things on behalf of children.
Jun 26, 2023 · 30 min
Them Before Us - #001 - Katy Faust & Jennifer Friesen talk the Them Before Us origin story
In our kick-off episode, Katy and Jenn cover the origins of our global movement, Katy's juicy (not juicy) backstory, what sets Them Before Us apart, and our plans for the future.

Them Before Us Podcast

Them Before Us #010 - Same-Sex Parenting: Debunking the Myth of “No Difference” Between Same-Sex and Duel-Sex Parenting

Them Before Us #009 | Q& A: Why did Katy start TBU, interracial and same-sex adoption, and how can we sustain marriage in society

Them Before Us #008 - Divorce

Them Before Us #007 - The devolution of marriage and why it matters.

Them Before Us #006 - Does gender matter or is it a social construct?

Them Before Us #005 - TBU Hot Topics: "Finding a good sperm donor" and reciprocal IVF

Them Before Us #004 - Does Biology Matter to Kids?

Them Before Us #003 - What Does "Children Have Rights" Mean & Surrogacy Breaking News

Them Before Us #002 - Katy & Jenn chat about Jenn's background and the distinct angle she brings to the fight for children’s rights.

Them Before Us - #001 - Katy Faust & Jennifer Friesen talk the Them Before Us origin story