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The Two Tongues Podcast

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The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren't "fit" for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game.
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  • 23 episodes
  • fortnightly
  • Avg 1 hr 26 min
  • English
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  • #336
    Friday · 1 hr 9 min

    S6E20 - The Cross and the Crescent Moon

    Opinion Scholarship on the birth of Islam! In this episode we examine the life of Muhammad and discuss the psychological significance of the tragedies that shaped his life...and, by extension, the religion of Islam. This is history, as told from the psychologist's couch, but not just that. We delve into the scripture of Islam, the Hadith and Tafsir, to identify what made Muhammad tick and to put his religious claims to the test. Enjoy ;)

  • #335
    August 31 · 1 hr 54 min

    S6E19 - The Problem with Being Chosen

    In this episode Kyle and Chris get together to catch up on our thoughts and the state of the world since our last conversation. In the first half, Chris regales us with his observations about the Prophet of Islam, after having recently made him a focus of study. We cover all the juicy bits of early Islamic history, including the more interesting conspiracy takes of the internet polemicists. This takes us into a discussion of the social and moral implications of claiming an identity that is "chosen, " "elect," or otherwise raised above the common people. We then round off this part of the discussion by contrasting which religions place a duty on their believers to proselytize and how that effects things like social integration and cultural assimilation. In closing we change the subject to music and a selection of social media videos, all of which required the two-cents of the Two Tongues. Enjoy ;)

  • #334
    August 19 · 41 min

    S6E18 - The Cannibal Hymn

    Opinion Scholarship on one of the very earliest (and strangest) ancient Egyptian funerary texts, which just so happens to feature...cannibalism. I bring you the Cannibal Hymn from the Pyramid of Unas at Saqqara (2350 BC). This hymn is enigmatic. It contains references to mythological ideas found in no other inscription in all of Egypt. It describes how the Pharaoh's soul becomes divine through a kind of communion ritual, where the Eucharist is the gods of the Egyptian pantheon. It instructs the soul of the Pharaoh to consume the organs and powers of all the gods and in so doing make himself greater than them all. Parallels from other religions (even Christianity) abound. Come and get it! Enjoy ;)

  • #333
    August 13 · 1 hr 7 min

    S6E17 - Gandalf the Red Part 11 - A Holy Affliction

    In this episode Chris returns to Opinion Scholarship on Carl Jung's infamous Red Book. We cover 3 of Jung's visions, which pick up where we left off...when Jung discovered that he and God are not distinct beings, but One. Today's visions take us into Jung's depths, where he must confront Christianity, the shackles of his own ego and the very thing he most wants to avoid--his Shadow. What a frightening thing it must be, after discovering that you and God are One, to realize that your Shadow is also God's Shadow; that God has a Shadow! The Shadow must be integrated. Enjoy ;)

  • #332
    July 27 · 2 hr 8 min

    S6E16 - The Machine Elves Have Flock Cameras

    In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss off-the-cuff life advise including the dangers of dating out of one's league (and benefits of dating below them), before pivoting to novel challenges of psychedelic experience. The conversation then turns to religion where Chris introduces the little-known lost gospel called the Egerton Gospel and reflects of the uniquely Indo-European trait of referring to God as "Father." A jaunt into the popularity of police body-cam videos then brings us to review a cavalcade of video shorts covering Christian and Muslim apologetics, Elon Musk's most recent interview and controversy about how certain political parties manipulate campaign finance laws (and little old ladies). Enjoy ;)

  • #331
    June 29 · 1 hr 59 min

    S6E15 - Mormon Folklore and Toxic Beans

    In this episode Kyle and Chris sit down to review the fun facts and interesting ideas they encountered over the last two weeks. They begin with a discussion of the controversial new film "Citizen Vigilante" and what it means for the actively turning social tide in the West. A few little-known fun facts about beans later, we find ourselves discussing the so-called World Cup Phenomena, which shined a light on the deceptive, anti-American media messaging rampant in Europe today. Next, we turn to religion, discussing the folklore that developed out of the Mormon tradition, the challenges of Neo-Paganism and the fate of Islam in the West. Enjoy ;)

  • #330
    June 15 · 2 hr 7 min

    S6E14 - MAID, Demons and First World Parasites

    In this episode Kyle and Chris drink lite beer and take a nice little jaunt through the headlines and topics of interest. We discuss the differences in the social movements of the 1960s and the modern day that classify themselves under the trans umbrella. We share embarrassing personal stories, discuss the prevalence of parasites in the industrialized world and shine a light on the statistics surrounding male and female violence. Demons, racial unrest in the U.K., and the reality check of World Cup visitors in the U.S. are all on the table. Enjoy ;)

  • #329
    May 26 · 2 hr 4 min

    S6E13 - Divination and Civilizational Collapse

    In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss biological evolution, how nature uses specialization to solve survival challenges and how trans ideology threatens to undermine it. Next, we hit on the topic of divination, its historical varieties and whether detecting patterns in nature is magic, science...or...maybe something of both. We touch on the headlines including conservative figures like Nick Fuentes and Thomas Massie voting with Democrats, fossilized trees discovered in-tact, vertically buried all over the United States and Johnny Manziel's MMA debut. And to conclude, we discuss the Classicist--David Butterfield--who was interviewed recently on the Triggernometry podcast, laying out all the striking parallels between the decline of Ancient Athens and patterns emerging in the modern West. Enjoy ;)

  • #328
    May 18 · 52 min

    S6E12 - Golden Verses of Pythagoras - The Law Before Moses

    This episode is Opinion Scholarship on the so-called "Golden Versus" of Pythagoras. We compare and contrast this ancient European moral code with the law of Moses to see how they differ and where they overlap. We explore the spirit of the law in both cases and identify what they reveal about these two cultures, their understanding of their place in the world and their relationship to the Divine. The Greeks claim that the greatest duty is 'honor of self,' while the Hebrews say it's 'honor of God.' The Greeks are concerned with becoming; with self-building; with acquiring virtue towards some Hellenic ideal of perfection, while the Hebrews are concerned with holiness and with preserving social cohesion. The varying spirits result in varying cultures; different values, different aspirations, different ideals. The question is, does one spirit speak to you more directly than the other? Enjoy ;)

  • #327
    May 11 · 2 hr 7 min

    S6E11 - The Beautiful Ones

    In this episode Kyle and Chris get together for an analysis of current events and an exploration of interesting facts we learned this past week. We cover the mosque, a very Jewish, Jeffrey Epstein built on his private island and decorated with authentic Islamic artifacts; the so-called "Right of Return" granted by the State of Israel to Jewish people living abroad...and the very strange parameters around how this right can be forfeited; and the existence of many Jewish Messianic figures from the time before, during and after the lifetime of Jesus. Lastly, we discuss the famous mouse-utopia experiment of Dr. John Calhoun from the 1960s and 70s, which represents a stark and terrifying analogy to the state of the modern West. Are we the Beautiful Ones or are we still anticipating their rise? Enjoy ;)

  • #326
    April 29 · 59 min

    S6E10 - Gandalf the Red Part 10 - God in the Egg

    This episode continues Opinion Scholarship on Carl Jung's mysterious Red Book. We cover three visions where Jung encounters God, mortally wounds him and then discovers how to save him so that he can be born anew. The subtext surrounds Jung's desire to be accepted as a scientist and a serious thinker, while the subject of his study is entirely rejected by mainstream academia and by society at large. Further, Jung comes to terms with the fact that God is intractable paradox, that he and God are One and that the greatest meaning comes in absurdity. Enjoy ;)

  • #325
    April 20 · 2 hr 6 min

    S6E9 - Popular Skepticism - Jordan Peterson, Iran and Missing Scientists

    In this episode Chris and Kyle analyze the state of the world through the lens of today's headlines and trends in popular content. We discuss the sad state of California with its Gubernatorial race in the headlines as well as the so-called "Stop Nick Shirley Act," before touching on the evolving villain archetype, the untold bits of American history and the doubt and dispersions being cast on Trump, the Iran conflict and Dr. Jordan Peterson. Are these part of an organized effort to manipulate popular opinion? Of course they are, but to whose benefit? Let's speculate, shall we... Enjoy ;)

  • #324
    April 8 · 16 min

    S6E8 - The Seer of Seeing

    In this episode Chris steelman's the Atheist position about the absence of God in the world of material objects and forces and the impossibility of proving its existence. He reinforces this bias on the basis of quantum physics, before tearing the whole facade to pieces. The quantum argument is undermined by the words of Erwin Schrodinger himself and bolstered by ancient religious ideas, which suggest two things: that Mind is God and that Mind and matter are one. From here is revealed (with a little help from the great wordsmith Eminem) that the impossibility of proving God's existence does NOT stem from its non-existence, but from our own ignorance of what constitutes evidence. So often, we can't see what's right before our eyes. We cannot see the Seer of seeing. Enjoy ;)

  • #323
    April 4 · 37 min

    S6E7 - Spirits of God

    In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the conflict between monotheism and polytheism. He asks whether these are truly opposing ideas or is there perhaps a shared origin between them? The answer takes us deep into the psychological significance of humanity's ancient pantheons, beyond to the animistic beginnings of all religion and finally into the tried-and-true myths of the Biblical Old Testament. We examine spirits, gods and angels in order to discover what we can know of the unknowable, transcendent God with a capital 'G.' Enjoy ;)

  • #322
    March 23 · 1 hr 59 min

    S6E6 - A Buddy of Jeff Dahmer

    In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite after a month-long break to catch up on current events and to explore those ideas that have been occupying our minds as of late. Chris tells the story of his encounter with a stranger who turned out to be one of the childhood friends of the infamous murderer Jeffrey Dahmer. Next, we discuss strange and rare medical conditions including a new one for both of us--Alice in Wonderland Syndrome. And lastly, we discuss a story from the lore of Rome's founding involving the capture of a religious statue from Anatolia and its role in Rome's rise to power. This expands into an exchange about the Great Mother goddess from the Stone Age and the evolution of her worship all the way into modern Catholicism. Enjoy ;)

  • #321
    March 20 · 1 hr 6 min

    S6E5 - Gandalf the Red Part 9 - Gods All Change Into Serpents In The End

    In this episode Chris returns to Opinion Scholarship on Carl Jung's Red Book. We discuss why dreams often repeat themes, especially during times of particular stress or anxiety and how Jung believed this is when dreams are most useful and ripe for interpretation. We then move into two of Jung's own visions from the Red Book where we discover repeating themes. These visions circle around Jung's quest for spiritual enlightenment, which runs precisely contrary to his scientific ideals; his struggle between these two motivations and a great revelation to be discovered where this struggle ends. Enjoy ;)

  • #320
    March 18 · 19 min

    S6E4 - Flashes of Insight

    In this episode Chris describes his fascination with Carl Jung's Red Book and the symbolism-filled stories it contains. He describes Jung's meditative, lucid dreaming-like process whereby he generates them and admits that he has never been able to recreate this process himself. And without Jung's so-called 'active imagination' to aid him, he describes his journey to find his own process. This episode contains 2 epiphanies, which Chris experienced personally and understood to be contents of the Unconscious, which, like Jung's dream images, might be explored. We walk through both epiphanies, step-by-step and the process by which Chris came to understand their meaning. Enjoy ;)

  • #319
    February 23 · 2 hr

    S6E3 - Was McCarthy Right

    In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss a recent interview with the Prime Minister of Greenland and Piers Morgan on the topic of potential U.S. territorial expansion. The interview served as a springboard to critique the biased, negative (and in my opinion unjustified) view the European world seems to hold of the United States and its citizens. While we consistently deflect the tropes "Americans are dumb" and "Americans think they're better than everyone else," etc., it's about time someone holds a mirror to their own ignorance...especially of American culture and government. Next, we switch to the topic of the Cold War and the now infamous example of Jospeh McCarthy and the McCarthy hearings. We read McCarthy's 1950 speech and line-up up his critics against the reality of 2026 America to determine...was he right all along? Enjoy ;)

  • #318
    February 19 · 39 min

    S6E2 - Great Mother Monism - Monotheism in the Stone Age

    This episode was inspired by an interview with Dr. Margaret Barker on the History Valley Podcast discussing her 2023 book The Great Lady. We begin with Opinion Scholarship on the very earliest known religious images from the Stone Age, which depict a Great Goddess figure and walk through how that image was preserved in later mythology. We then bring Dr. Barker's work to bear on the Biblical figure of Ashera, how her memory was obscured over the development of Judaic monotheism and how the truth of her origin was finally revealed in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Enjoy ;)

  • #317
    February 3 · 54 min

    S6E1 - Schrodinger on God

    In this episode Chris delivers Opinion Scholarship on the great quantum physicist--Erwin Schrodinger--through the ideas expressed in his 1956 book Mind and Matter. Things get unexpectedly mystical almost immediately as Schodinger discusses the implications of the "observer effect" and the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. It only gets better from here as Schodinger explores the role of consciousness in physics, the unity of 'mind' and the qualities of mind that are equally qualities of God. Enjoy ;)

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