

The Tom Petty Project
Kevin Brown
This is the weekly podcast that digs into the entire Tom Petty catalog song by song, album by album and includes conversations with musicians, fans, and people connected with Tom along the way.
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- 20 episodes
- weekly
- Avg 32 min
- English
S14 · E23Wednesday · 37 min- TT

S14 · E22August 19 · 57 minThe Other Guys!
Obviously, Tom is the primary focus of most of this project, but as I said last week, one of the joys of the last five years has been discovering how astonishingly good a band Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were. One of the ten questions I always ask my guests is “Who is your favourite band member other than Tom” Here are the answers. See how many voices you remember! Thanks to all my guests who answered this one! In order, they are: Dallas Heliker, Jake Thistle, Gwen Jones, Nic Apostoleris, Jeff Slate, Megan Volpert, Corey Morrissette, Katie Moulton, Dan Spiess, Michael Washburn, Ivan Anderson, Tommy Edwin, Dan Durkin, Django Bayliss, Matt Jaffe, Russell Mark, Will Porteous, Doc Wiley and Chris Gillette, Mark Lindsey, Peter Nester, Mary Beth Donnelly, Tim Bulman, Nora Hayward Olsen, Eric Senich, Shawn Murphy, Greg Wolfe, Rich Gibson, Shine, Sam Krishnan, Matt Burke, Steve Ursell, and Robin Vincent. Don't forget to leave me a voice note telling me what "Mojo" means to you! https://tompettyproject.com/mojo.php. You can also email me at kevin@kevbrown.ca with your thoughts. Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E21August 12 · 18 minFive Years (and counting)
Something I’ve been thinking about a fair bit this week is how my relationship with Tom’s music has changed over the years that I’ve been doing the show now. The very short answer to this is I’ve come to regard him as one of the truly great songwriters in history. Over time, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers has rocketed up my list of, not just favourite bands, but bands I would put head to head against any of the best rock n roll bands of all time. The day this episode comes out, will be one day after the fifth anniversary of the show so I wanted to do a little retrospective and put out a shorter episode where I can reflect on the journey so far. Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E20August 5 · 22 minLive from Gatorville
Included on one of the discs in the Running Down a Dream documentary by Peter Bogdanovic, the release has been widely circulated in many bootleg forms and I think we’re long overdue a re-release! Wouldn’t it be great to have this upscaled to 4K and remastered. Heck, I’d even love a double vinyl release of this one for my collection. It’s a band at the top of their game, with absolutely nothing to lose, playing to a packed house of fans, friends, and family, that was captured for posterity, without overdubs, and stands up as one of the great Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers performances. I remember when I watched the Running Down a Dream documentary for the first time not realizing that this concert footage was included and being blown away by just how tight this band was. I go back to it often, as I’m sure many of you do, and just enjoy watching Tom being so relaxed and confident, backed by his friends, who happen to be one of the best bands of all time. This concert is a very easy 10/10 for me! Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E19July 22 · 19 minRemembering Robert Deyber
“I was doing fine on my own, selling from my own website privately, and right at the same time Tom Petty contacted me and told me he’d been secretly collecting my work, and wanted me to design an album cover for him. He and his wife have 6 paintings or so.” Robert Deyber never became a household name in the manner of Dalí or Warhol, but within contemporary gallery circles he developed an exceptionally loyal following who appreciated that his paintings were technically accomplished, immediately understandable, and humorous without being superficial. Thousands of private collectors acquired his paintings and limited editions, including other notable figures from the entertainment industry. Links and sources from this episode In the Studio : https://youtu.be/gnvkPiQ7fYY Bellevue Reporter interview : https://www.bellevuereporter.com/2009/02/08/artist-robert-deyber-plays-on-words/ Unlocking Connecticut interview : https://unlockingconnecticut.com/2016/09/artist-robert-deyber/ Artsy interview : https://www.artsy.net/article/martin-lawrence-galleries-robert-deyber Profile on the Martin Lawrence Galleries website : https://martinlawrence.com/collections/robert-deyber Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E17July 8 · 1 hr 49 minGuitars & Mike Campbell with Josh Caldwell
Today's episode is a wide ranging conversation that I had with my friend Josh Caldwell. Josh and I met through a mutual love of Van Halen and the superb And the Podcast Will Rock, cohosted by my good pals Corey Morrissette and Mark Camire. We get into the weeds about guitars and guitarists and talk about what makes Mike special and why he was an indispensible part of the Heartbreakers formula! If you want to find Josh's excellent podcast, The Engine Room, you can check it out here: https://pod.link/1859462144 And if you want to check out And the Podcast Will Rock, you'll find that one here: https://pod.link/1595995181 Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E16July 1 · 1 hr 14 minHighway Companion (with John Paulsen)
My pal John Paulsen is back to run through Highway Companion with me. We get into the weeds about whether I'm overscoring the catalogue and as always, we take a shot a resequencing the albums in a different way according to our tastes. We also float a few ideas for special episodes that we can do once the main catalogue is complete and there were some fun ideas that came up! If you want to find John, you can catch him over on Bluesky at: https://bsky.app/profile/4for4-john.bsky.social Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E15June 24 · 17 minThe Golden Rose
We often talk about album openers and closers and I’m sure my pal John Paulsen and I will get into that next week, but of all the songs that were included on this record, the opener and the closer just scream at you on Highway Companion. Both Saving Grace and The Golden Rose have momentum and hit that theme of travelling perfectly, but they do it in very different ways. Saving Grace soars above the scenery and exhilarates as it takes you on its journey. The Golden Rose on the other hand floats, almost without the aid of any manual propulsion. Song : https://youtu.be/762qbtPsKlk ADDITIONAL LINKS Judge Timbers' tutorial: https://youtu.be/Mf7AJJH55Gs Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E13June 3 · 23 minAnkle Deep
Let’s talk about the lyrics to this one first. Tom goes on to say “You don’t have a lot of room to write a story in a song. So you have to be economical with your lines.” and we’ve remarked on that on so many occasions with Tom’s story songs - he usually gives us brief flashes of narrative before either zooming out, changing the POV or switching to a characters thoughts rather than their actions. This one is a pretty tight, compact three act play though and Tom’s economy works really well. Song : https://youtu.be/OGWiNlHXiYQ ADDITIONAL LINKS Judge Timbers' tutorial: https://youtu.be/PwACALHy878 Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E12May 27 · 23 minThis Old Town
We’ve talked a few times this season about the fact that the album wasn’t finished when Tom played the songs for Paul Zollo. In the book, he tells Paul, “I still haven’t figured out where to put it in the sequence. Right now I have it at the end, but I don’t think it’s the perfect ending.” Earlier, he says “That was written in the middle of all the other things” and I wonder if he hadn’t written The Golden Rose at this point, because that’s the obvious album closer. Had he not written that song, I do actually think This Old Town would be a good way to go out. Song : https://youtu.be/psD0J-C11u8 ADDITIONAL LINKS Judge Timbers' tutorial: https://youtu.be/hgWAwudaj-A Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E10May 13 · 20 minDamaged by Love
“There's rain on the road And the faithful have gone. In a crowd all alone, Walking 'round in a song”. It’s a great little snapshot or vignette, as Tom so often gives us, of perhaps a wedding or some other celebration at a small roadside church. That feeling of being alone in a crowd is beautifully phrased by changing the order of the words; rather than All alone in a crowd, “in a crowd all alone” feels more poetic and more deliberately focusing on the alone part rather than the crowd part. And, we have to tip our hat to Dana Petty of course here! Tom tells Paul Zollo “Dana actually helped me with two lines in that song. I was kind of stuck. It’s not something I would ordinarily do, but I said, “Hey, what would you put here? What would you say?” he then says “In a crowd all alone/Walking round in a song. That was hers”. Song : https://youtu.be/DZa8wc2uoow ADDITIONAL LINKS Judge Timbers' tutorial: https://youtu.be/2ld4U8pvr3A Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E9May 6 · 24 minNight Driver
Night Driver is one of those perfect album tracks that you always want to hear on great records. There’s something to be said for albums where any song could basically be a single, but I tend to gravitate more towards albums that are very carefully curated around a central idea and Highway Companion is definitely one of those. This track sits on the second half of the record, coming after the euphoric Big Weekend, as a mood piece and a moment in time for the central character on the album. It’s a wonderfully restrained and melodically comfortable song! Song : https://youtu.be/7Fni5y-8wqo REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE Judge Timbers' tutorial: https://youtu.be/y-dKJ8bIUGY Jake Thistle Fans Forever : https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1DQkHfK9mz/ Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E8April 15 · 25 minBig Weekend
The first verse contains one of my all time favourite lyrics. Not just one of my very favourite Tom Petty lyrics, just one of my favourite lyrics full stop. And it’s not a superb piece of word play or a huge emotionally charge line. It’s not a cuttingly brilliant philosophically brilliant observation - we get that later in the song - nor is it a playfully subversive line. It’s this line; “They live in a brick house, painted white and brown.” And specifically the last half of the line; “Painted white and brown.” I know that line probably doesn’t set off the fireworks of your imagination like it does mine, but I know there are others that do the same for you and not for me. One of the most glorious things about this podcast for me is discovering those little sideroads of imagination that you guys share with me from time to time! Song : https://youtu.be/xBZr5nq0Yd0 REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE Demo : https://youtu.be/kQRsDAVy3lU Judge Timbers : https://youtu.be/MKAeM8Cc1o8 Anything That’s Rock n Roll (Old Grey Whistle Test) : https://youtu.be/qJMgWiqoLn4 Anything That’s Rock n Roll (Top of the Pops) : https://youtu.be/y0mYRnPXs2U Jake Thistle Fans Forever : https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1DQkHfK9mz/ Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E6April 1 · 25 minTurn This Car Around
In my mind’s eye, I see a younger couple, maybe mid to late twenties, driving an old cadillac along a dark desert highway... A kid, about 7 or 8 years is in the back seat having a bad dream: not exactly a nightmare but one of those dreams that feels you feeling really unsettled for the rest of the day once you wake up and you can’t quite remember it only, the feeling it’s left you with. The verses are the phases of the dream in which unseen forces threaten to harm the kid. The choruses are their internal monologue, reaching out to mom and dad and telling them to turn the car around, reverse course, go back to safety. Song : https://youtu.be/hi6TEnKGV_g REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE Judge Timbers' cover and guitar lesson: https://youtu.be/Igz0u_LnjNY Jake Thistle Fans Forever : https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1DQkHfK9mz/ Jake's Performance on Idol : https://youtu.be/qbZN4ogTW9w Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E5March 25 · 27 minJack
Jack is a peculiar song. It doesn’t have a typical structure and it’s much more a mood piece. As I said, I sort of consider this one to be a chance encounter on the Highway Tom is taking us down. We don’t spend any quality time with this character but we’re left with a slightly gnawing, maybe slightly uneasy feeling about bumping into him. He’s gonna get his baby back and we’re not really sure whether she wants to be got! Song : https://youtu.be/j60LIOgHbtY REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE Judge Timbers' cover and guitar lesson: https://youtu.be/LdiGGLYIsx4 Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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S14 · E4March 18 · 26 minDown South
Every now and then I try to think about my top ten Tom Petty deep cuts. There are so many that I love and that I’ve discovered, rediscovered, or come to appreciate so much more as I’ve been on this podcast journey, but Down South is at the very top table for me in that regard. Going down south for the first time to the Tom Petty Weekend last year made this song resonate doubly with me. Not only does it tap into that connection I have with going home myself, but heading to Gainesville and feeling the bones of the place, I feel this song in a very different way. I can see the song now as well as hear it. Song : https://youtu.be/sQwvkeHGSH4 REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE Judge Timbers' guitar lesson: https://youtu.be/AKnyC2PhTcA Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show. Follow: https://linktr.ee/tompettyproject Listen: https://pod.link/1580769475 All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com A special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way. Producer: Kevin Brown Executive Producers: Paul Roberts, Steve Ursell Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.