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The Scene Vault Podcast
Rick Houston
At The Scene Vault Podcast, we're all about NASCAR history, all the time. Our interview guests shed new light on their lives and careers each and every week, and hosts Rick Houston and Steve Waid draw on their long careers in and around the sport to provide expert analysis and commentary. New episodes drop every Wednesday at 6 a.m. Eastern.
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- TSJuly 22 · 55 min
Episode 406 -- Steve Waid's Celebration of Life
Steve Waid's celebration of life was held Wednesday, July 15 at the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte. Be our guest at the service on this very special episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJuly 15 · 1 hr 32 min
Episode 405 -- Jimmy Makar on Parting Ways with Dale Jarrett, Making It to the Mountaintop with Bobby Labonte
Rick Houston is joined this week by guest co-host Graig Hoffman, executive director at North Wilkesboro Speedway. This week in the third and final installment of our interview, Jimmy Makar remembers saying goodbye to Dale Jarrett as the driver for Joe Gibbs Racing, saying hello to DJ’s replacement, Bobby Labonte and what it was like to sit at the head table at the Winston Cup awards banquet. Rick and Graig then tackle the October 5, 1978 issue of Grand National Scene. Darrell Waltrip THRASHES the field at North Wilkesboro for the first 380 laps … pits … then pits again after being black flagged for a missing lug nut … which hands the victory to Cale Yarborough. D.K. Ulrich loses his appeal over a nitrous oxide system that was discovered on his car following a bad accident at Darlington, despite his insistence AT THE TIME that it was inoperable. And … Junior Johnson comes to the rescue for reporter Mike Mulhern. Please consider supporting the podcast via Patreon.com/thescenevaultpodcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJuly 8 · 1 hr 52 min
Episode 404 -- Jimmy Makar on Leaving Penske Racing for Joe Gibbs and Brother-in-Law Dale Jarrett
Jimmy Makar takes listeners through the turbulent Blue Max Racing era with Rusty Wallace, which means financial trouble, the disappointment of losing the Winston Cup championship, MORE financial trouble, WINNING the Winston Cup championship and … you guessed it … financial trouble that would bring the team to its knees. He stays with Rusty and new owner Roger Penske, but only long enough to face a difficult decision that summer. Hosts Rick Houston and Tony Liberati then tackle the July 21, 1991 issue of Winston Cup Scene. Rusty Wallace gets a little help from a friend to win at Pocono, in Jimmy Makar’s last race with the team, while Ernie Irvan may … or may NOT have triggered an earlier multicar crash that DID lead to his infamous apology at Talladega the very next week. Darrell Waltrip gets TESTY just before going on the air with MRN to talk about getting caught up in the mishap. Benny Parsons makes an emotional return to the track after the loss of his wife Connie. Deb Williams pens a couple of great stories about Stevie Waltrip and Kyle Petty’s goal to return from his broken leg sooner than expected. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJuly 1 · 1 hr 40 min
Episode 403 -- Jimmy Makar on Parents' Love for Racing and the Road Trip From Hell
This week … Jimmy Makar, Part One. And IN Jimmy Makar, Part One, Jimmy talks about being a fan from the second his was born and how his dad Jim’s tenure as a Winston Cup team owner was short-lived but somehow also managed to sow the seeds for a lifetime in the sport. Jimmy takes us along for the ride on the road trip from hell to beat ALL road trips from hell. He tells us about working for Robert Gee, Harry Hyde, Junior Johnson and Raymond Beadle and the transition from Tim Richmond as driver to Rusty Wallace. In our second segment, hosts Rick Houston and longtime Winston Cup Scene photographer Bryan Hallman leaf through the September 29, 1977 edition of Grand National Scene. This early issue of Scene featured coverage of two Winston Cup races … Benny Parsons won at Dover by holding off a wink-wink challenge from David Pearson, while the UNGRATEFUL Cale Yarborough dominated … and won … at Martinsville. Kenny Brightbill destroys Jim Makar’s Mercury at Dover, while Gene Granger produces a lengthy story on Richard Petty’s record-setting 1967 NASCAR season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJune 24 · 2 hr 11 min
Episode 402 -- Tim Brewer on Hydraulics at Daytona and the Trickery That Wasn't in NASCAR's Greatest Race
NOTE: This episode and all to follow are dedicated to the memory of the late, great Steve Waid. Newly slenderized Michael McSwain joins host Rick Houston to discuss a whopper of an unfiltered Tim Brewer interview. This week, Brewer drops not one … not two … but three MAJOR bombshells about qualifying for the 1992 Daytona 500 and the iconic NASCAR’s Greatest Race … the 1992 Hooters 500. Rick and Michael then break down the February 13, 1992 issue of Winston Cup Scene. Gary Nelson is in his first year with NASCAR as its Winston Cup director in training … and let’s just say that Gary is loaded for bear and swinging from the heels when it came to policing the inspection process. Tim Brewer does NOT get sent to NASCAR’s electric chair after Junior Johnson & Associates teammates Sterling Marlin and Bill Elliott sweep the first two starting spots for the next weekend’s Daytona 500, while Geoff Bodine overcomes ... cough, cough ... handling problems to win the Busch Clash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJune 17 · 1 hr 21 min
Episode 401 -- In Memory of The Boss, Steve Waid
Steve Waid, this one's for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJune 10 · 1 hr 30 min
Episode 400 -- In Memory of NASCAR Hall of Famer Ned Jarrett
It's not the 400th episode celebration we had planned ... but it's a celebration of life, nonetheless. Hosts Rick Houston and Jeffrey Baker remember the late, great champion driver, iconic broadcaster, NASCAR Hall of Fame, and even better human being ... Ned Jarrett. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSJune 3 · 1 hr 37 min
Episode 399 -- Jeffrey Baker on Parting Ways with Jeremy Mayfield and Apologizing to Mike Wallace
NOTE: Co-host Steve Waid is under the weather and won't be on the podcast this week. At this point, we're not quite sure when he might be able to return. Prayers would be sincerely appreciated. This week, in the third and final installment of our interview, Jeffrey Baker tells us about a fuel incident at Talladega, a penalty the very next week at California, an ACRIMONIOUS split with Jeremy Mayfield, and being man enough to apologize to Mike Wallace. Hosts Rick Houston and Tony Liberati then dig into the November 1, 2001, issue of Winston Cup Scene. Mike Wallace has a career day at Phoenix … and in the process … makes a STRONG case to keep his Roger Penske-owned team open for business. But then Jeff Burton INSISTS on ruining the Cinderella story by getting by Mike in the closing laps to win … and give Roush Racing a 1-2-3 sweep of the weekend’s Cup, Busch, and Truck series events. There are actually FOUR big races that weekend. Cup, Busch, Truck … and trying to get from the track to Game One of the World Series. Martinsville Speedway’s Mike Smith shares a FANTASTIC memory of Dale Earnhardt, and … finally … this issue raises an age-old question: Team Dave or Team Sammy? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSMay 27 · 44 min
Episode 398 -- In Memory of Kyle Busch
Former Las Vegas Motor Speedway President and General Manager Chris Powell and Toyota Racing Development's Joe Dan Bailey join hosts Rick Houston and Steve Waid to remember the man, the myth, the enigma ... Kyle Busch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSMay 20 · 2 hr 12 min
Episode 397 -- Jeffrey Baker on the Tabasco Fiasco, Nearly Winning the Legendary 1998 Daytona 500
This week in the second installment of our interview, Jeffrey Baker gives us an insider’s view of the Tabasco Fiasco, rooting AGAINST Dale Earnhardt in the closing laps of the 1998 Daytona 500 and the best advice he’s EVER received in NASCAR. We then dig into the May 14, 1998 issue of Winston Cup Scene. Teammates Rusty Wallace and Jeremy Mayfield are featured as the cover story in this issue, in a piece in which everybody involved said the right things about how well they were working together. Buckshot Jones wins at New Hampshire in an event that’s notorious to all who listen to and love The Scene Vault Podcast. Bill France Sr takes on Curtis Turner, Tim Flock and the Teamsters, while Randy LaJoie talks to somebody at Winston Cup Scene OTHER than Rick Houston about his seating company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSMay 13 · 1 hr 22 min
Episode 396 -- Jeffrey Baker -- MASTER Storyteller
This week in our first segment … I sat down with Jeffrey Baker in our studio at the Universal Technical Institute in Mooresville … actually … back a few months ago. If you’ve been wondering WHY we asked Jeffrey to join our little family as one of our co-hosts, our conversation during that interview IS WHY. You’re going to hear stories you’ve NEVER heard before … told in a way that you’ve never heard before. From getting an ultimatum about his involvement in the sport from a soon-to-be FORMER girlfriend to a Bobby Hamilton caper that you’ve got to hear to believe … Jeffrey brings the heat. Then in our second segment, we'll dig into the November 19, 1987 issue of Grand National Scene. The cover story in this issue is about the private planes that were coming into vogue at the time, so we did into the recorded archive to share stories about competitors and their planes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSMay 6 · 1 hr 43 min
Episode 395 -- Back to Our Normal Format with More EPIC Ben Leslie Cheating Stories
This week in the third and final installment of our epic conversation with Ben Leslie, we discuss: Superstar drivers with ego … and DRIVERS with ego Mark Martin’s massive influence at Roush Racing And MORE good ol’ fashioned cheating stories. In our second segment, we'll dive into the September 29, 1983 issue of Grand National Scene. Ricky Rudd and Richard Childress WHUP the field at Martinsville, while Bobby Allison holds off Darrell Waltrip for second place. DW and Junior Johnson aren’t exactly pleased with the day’s effort. Steve Waid’s column discusses the high-school educational pursuits of several folks in the Winston Cup garage. Popular David Ifft recovers from a bad accident on the way home from Dover. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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April 30 · 9 minFirestorm Episode 10 -- The Day of Reckoning for The Firestorm Five
For 25 years, not a single driver in NASCAR's top three national touring divisions has been fatally injured during a race. That isn't luck. That's a legacy written in tragedy. This is the Firestorm finale — the story of the most radical safety transformation in motorsports history, the truth behind the most persistent conspiracy theory in NASCAR, and the enduring question every fan carries: did the sport die with Dale Earnhardt? In this episode: ⚙️ The SAFER barrier in action — Ryan Blaney's 2023 Daytona crash mirrored Dale Earnhardt's fatal impact almost exactly. Watch the wall flex. That flex is the reason he walked away. 🪖 The HANS device — why it took five deaths to mandate the one piece of equipment that changes everything on impact 🚗 The Car of Tomorrow — NASCAR's most ridiculed car, the bolted-on wing, the weird splitter... and the thousands of crash tests that proved none of that mattered 🔩 The Dale Earnhardt seatbelt controversy — definitively addressed — the left lap belt was torn, not cut. There is no photographic evidence, no witness testimony, and no logical motive for a cover-up. The most prevalent theory about that day doesn't survive scrutiny. 🏁 The legacy of the Firestorm 5 — Adam Petty. Kenny Irwin Jr. Tony Roper. Dale Earnhardt. Blaise Alexander. Five deaths. One transformed sport. 🤔 Did NASCAR die with Dale Earnhardt? — If the sport is nothing without him, then what did his 76 wins and 7 championships actually mean? The sport is different today. Stage racing. The Hail Melon. The siren still blaring at the Dawsonville pool room with every Chase Elliott victory. It's different — but it's very much alive. And at 200 miles an hour, the beast is always lurking. Always hungry. That is the lesson of the Firestorm series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSApril 29 · 21 min
Episode 394 -- Firestorm Reaction -- Legacy
Blaise Alexander. Adam Petty. Kenny Irwin. Tony Roper. Dale Earnhardt. Five drivers lost in the darkest two seasons in NASCAR history — and only one of them gets the headlines. After 10 episodes and two and a half months, Firestorm is complete. This is where we land. In this series finale, Steve Waid and Rick Houston close the books on the most emotionally demanding project The Scene Vault Podcast has ever produced — a full examination of the 2000–2001 NASCAR safety crisis that claimed five lives and permanently altered stock-car racing. We're talking about the drivers who don't make the anniversary posts. The names that get erased when history gets rewritten. Not anymore. But closing the series doesn't mean closing the conversation. In this episode: Why crediting Dale Earnhardt alone for NASCAR's safety revolution is revisionist history — and who else deserves to share that legacy The listener feedback that made this series worth every painful minute The harshest criticism we received — and why it proves the journalism is working Debunking the biggest conspiracy theory in NASCAR history: the seatbelt myth, dissected with the burden of proof it deserves The safety progress NASCAR has made since 2001 — and why that progress can never become complacency The tracks that still worry us today, and the 1977 story that shows this fear is nothing new What's next on The Scene Vault Podcast — interviews, roundtables and a "big" announcement coming in August "If we remember Dale's part of the story without also recognizing Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin, Tony Roper and Blaise Alexander — it would be a huge disservice to their memories." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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April 24 · 22 minFirestorm Episode 9 -- Another One
The morning after Blaise Alexander died, I walked into the Charlotte Motor Speedway Media Center and watched a member of the NASCAR press corps hold court for anyone who'd listen. Then he bellowed it: "Old Billy France has killed another one." I had never spoken a single word to that man in my life. What happened next was the most unprofessional moment of my career — and I have never regretted it for a single second. In October 2001, a young driver named Blaise Alexander died chasing a win at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Thirteen days later, NASCAR changed its rules forever. Blaise Alexander Jr. was an emerging talent — a prankster with a warrior's heart, a driver who had already won four ARCA races and stood on the verge of a full-time Busch Series ride. Then, on October 4, 2001, during an ARCA race at Charlotte, the sport lost him. His death sent shockwaves through the NASCAR community — and within two weeks, NASCAR mandated head and neck restraint devices across all three national touring divisions. For Alexander's father, Blaise Sr., that mandate was both a painful acknowledgment of what time could not undo and a lasting tribute to the son he lost. In this chapter of Firestorm, we revisit Alexander's remarkable journey: from Pennsylvania go-karts to the national stage, the early friendship with a then-unknown Jimmie Johnson, the gut-punch of losing Kenny Irwin just months before, and the family's quiet fight to make sure his name — and his legacy — would outlast the grief. No driver in NASCAR's top three divisions has died in a race in the 25 years since these safety changes were implemented. That important legacy belongs, in part, to Blaise Alexander Jr. What we cover in this episode: Blaise Alexander Jr.'s racing career and four ARCA wins The October 4, 2001 ARCA race at Charlotte Motor Speedway Jimmie Johnson's personal tribute to his close friend NASCAR's HANS device mandate — announced October 17, 2001 The "Firestorm Five": Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin, Tony Roper, Dale Earnhardt and Blaise Alexander Blaise Sr.'s push for soft walls and lasting safety reforms at NASCAR tracks The Scene Vault · Preserving the greatest stories in stock-car racing history. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSApril 22 · 23 min
Episode 393 -- Jimmy Spencer Joins the Show to Remember His Protege Blaise Alexander
When Blaise Alexander crashed at Lowe's Motor Speedway on October 4, 2001, Jimmy Spencer was watching on the mega-screens from under the Winston hauler. He went to his knees. He knew. In this episode of The Scene Vault Podcast, "Mr. Excitement" Jimmy Spencer sits down with Steve Wade and Rick Houston to share what's never been told — his decades-long personal relationship with the Alexander family, his role as Blaise's mentor, and the moment everything changed. Spencer also reveals a stunning footnote in NASCAR history: he was the first driver to ever test the SAFER barrier — before most of the world even knew it existed. In this episode: 🏁 How Jimmy Spencer first met the Alexander family through a car auction — when Blaise was still a kid dominating go-kart tracks 🔧 The Tuesday Blaise stopped by Spencer's shop in Mooresville to pick up parts — days before the crash that ended his life 😔 Spencer's gut-wrenching firsthand account of watching the crash unfold on the mega-screens 🛡️ The untold story of NASCAR's safety revolution — and why Spencer believes it was already underway before Dale Earnhardt died at Daytona 🚧 Jimmy Spencer's secret role as the first driver to test softer walls and the SAFER barrier following a crash at Richmond 🏆 Why Blaise Alexander was different — a driver who never made the same mistake twice and never walked into the shop "down in the dumps" 💔 The deaths of Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin, and Tony Roper — and why they deserve to be more than footnotes in this story "Blaise affected me a lot. I think it was 20-some years old, and he had the potential. Damn it, it's been 25 years. Where did the time go?" — Jimmy Spencer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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April 15 · 22 minFirestorm Episode 8 -- The Belt That Broke ... Dale Earnhardt's Last Unanswered Question
Dale Earnhardt's crash at the 2001 Daytona 500 shook NASCAR. What came next nearly destroyed it. Five days after the worst day in NASCAR history, a single announcement lit the sport on fire: the lap belt in Dale Earnhardt's car had failed. In an instant, grief turned to fury — and NASCAR entered the darkest period of controversy the sport had ever known. A safety equipment manufacturer accused of killing a legend. An EMT who claimed the belt wasn't broken — it was cut. A widow forced into court to protect her husband's dignity. A rival driver threatened for simply touching the wrong car at the wrong moment. And an investigation that answered some questions while raising dozens more. This episode of Firestorm goes inside the aftermath nobody saw coming: Mike Helton's bombshell announcement at Rockingham — and the fury it unleashed on Bill Simpson and Simpson Race Products The broken belt vs. the cut belt: two competing claims, one devastating consequence Tommy Probst's testimony: why an EMT's account changed everything The legal battle over Dale Earnhardt's autopsy photos — and the Florida law born from it Sterling Marlin: contact, controversy, and death threats NASCAR's official investigation report (August 21, 2001) — and why Bill Simpson immediately fired back with his own press conference How September 11, 2001 brought the most turbulent NASCAR season to a sudden, sobering close The 2001 Daytona 500 didn't end on February 18th. The real story was only beginning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSApril 15 · 1 hr 8 min
Episode 392 -- Tony Liberati FINALLY Shows Steve Waid and Rick Houston How to Do the Perfect Interview
Dale Earnhardt walked away. Rick never got a single word on the record — and he never forgot the feeling. Two of the most decorated journalists in NASCAR history sit down with Tony Liberati for a raw, unscored account of what it really cost to cover the sport from the inside — the access, the pressure, the stories that never ran and the ones they wish they'd told differently. What you'll hear in this episode: The Dale Earnhardt interview that wasn't — the post-race moment Rick has never stopped thinking about How Steve built his career not on stars, but on the drivers nobody else was talking to — including the closest friend Wendell Scott ever had The "oh sh*t" moment that almost ended Steve's career after the 1976 Daytona 500 crash between David Pearson and Richard Petty The garage crew member claiming to be a Vietnam POW — Rick investigated, had the documentation and the story still never ran Why Darrell Waltrip was the most entertaining interview in NASCAR and the hardest to actually get A Harry Gant quote that caused a firestorm — and what happened the very next day when he took the checkered flag Favorite tracks that defined careers: Nashville Speedway, Bristol Motor Speedway, Darlington Raceway — and the restaurants that kept them sane on the road What both men would do completely differently if they could go back Two journalists. Decades inside NASCAR history. The stories that didn't make the paper. Rick and Steve didn't spend their careers in the spotlight — they spent it chasing the people who were. From the back rows of the NASCAR garage to the press box at the Southern 500, they watched the sport transform and lived the toll that came with it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- TSApril 8 · 33 min
Episode 391 -- Firestorm Reaction -- Firestorm Unleased
When Dale Earnhardt died on the last lap of the 2001 Daytona 500, NASCAR didn't just lose a driver. It lost its Superman. And in the grief that followed, the sport nearly tore itself apart. A broken seat belt. A driver who liked it loose. A manufacturer forced to defend his product. A rival driver who needed protection from his own fans. And a conspiracy theory machine that rivaled the JFK assassination in its intensity — because when the unthinkable happens, someone has to be blamed. In this episode, we go deep into the nuclear fallout of February 18, 2001: The seat belt controversy — what actually happened, why the "dumping issue" matters, and why one popular theory about Dale loosening his own belt is flat-out wrong Bill Simpson under fire — how the seat belt manufacturer fought to protect his reputation, and the evolving explanations that followed Sterling Marlin's nightmare — why Dale Jr. had to step in, and what Marlin meant when he said, quietly, "It was real bad" The one o'clock impact — the biomechanical truth behind the basal skull fractures that killed Earnhardt, Adam Petty, Kenny Irwin and Tony Roper Dr. Bob Hubbard and the HANS device — how one inventor's presence at Speedweeks 2001 changed everything and why drivers from Michael Waltrip to Mark Martin were skeptical before they were sold NASCAR's measured response — why the sport didn't overreact, and why that discipline made the safety revolution stick Did NASCAR die with Dale? — the sentiment, the data and the powerful argument for what his life actually meant This isn't a conspiracy episode. It's a reckoning — with grief, with blame and with the painful, necessary process of turning tragedy into transformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices